Thread: Yay!

> No, I was serious. They're not allowed in the new freezer. It even has a
> lock on it. :-)

Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on your view) I'm really the
only one who cooks in the house. My Beloved just stands back and lets
me organize everything. Which suits me just fine. :-)

I second the inventory list. I finally did that this spring and it
really makes a difference.

On 9/25/2011 11:53 AM, Serene Vannoy wrote:
> On 09/24/2011 07:36 AM, Storrmmee wrote:
>> remember to inventory as you put in and mark off as you take out,
>> item, date
>> made and how many... helps not only in avoiding letting it get old,
>> really
>> helps to grab it when making shopping lists as you know you already
>> have xxx
>> in there,
>
> It's a good idea; not sure I can get the locusts to comply. ;-)
>
> (Kidding; I plan to actually forbid them from going in the freezer. I'll
> put stuff they're allowed to use into the smaller one above the fridge.)
>
> Serene
When our kids were small and curious our freezers had keys, we kept them
locked. We both had these terrible visions of one falling in the chest
freezer and the lid dropping and latching them in. When they were teens
we had thoughts of putting them in the freezer until they grew up. Now
that they're both in their late fifties we rather enjoy them all grown
up and kids of their own to torment them.

I am not sure if i like the fact we eat more variety or if we waste less to
freezer burn, or if the quickness of the grocery list is my favorite... and
the energy savings of not standing there with it open for eons helps too,
Lee
"Beti" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> No, I was serious. They're not allowed in the new freezer. It even has a
>> lock on it. :-)
>
> Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on your view) I'm really the
> only one who cooks in the house. My Beloved just stands back and lets
> me organize everything. Which suits me just fine. :-)
>
> I second the inventory list. I finally did that this spring and it
> really makes a difference.

On 9/25/2011 1:47 PM, Storrmmee wrote:
> I am not sure if i like the fact we eat more variety or if we waste less to
> freezer burn, or if the quickness of the grocery list is my favorite... and
> the energy savings of not standing there with it open for eons helps too,
> Lee
> "Beti"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>> No, I was serious. They're not allowed in the new freezer. It even has a
>>> lock on it. :-)
>>
>> Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on your view) I'm really the
>> only one who cooks in the house. My Beloved just stands back and lets
>> me organize everything. Which suits me just fine. :-)
>>
>> I second the inventory list. I finally did that this spring and it
>> really makes a difference.
>
>
We quit experiencing freezer burn when we bought our first FoodSaver
some 20 years ago. I put meat, fruit, veggies, cooked meals, you name
it, in the freezer and it comes out as good as new. I don't own stock in
Tilia but sometimes wish I did.

My grocery list is computer generated and goes aisle by aisle at the
Kroger where I shop. Saves me time plus gives me a little extra to scout
for new stuff. I know the meat market and produce managers and they give
me some specials occasionally. They both know I can food and make
jellies and jams. The produce manager will tell me when certain fruits
are going on sale as they are getting older, most people won't buy fruit
with a spot on it unless they're home preservers. I can get a few lbs of
fruit in a net bag for a dollar when it is going "off." The butcher told
me the days and times when meat that is close to it's "sell by" date and
I can be there to dive into the used meat bin and stock up for half
price. Yesterday I got six ribeyes and six NY strips for about half
price. They were vacuum bagged, dated and identified, and into the
freezer as soon as I got home.

My Beloved started teaching again some years ago, about the time I
started working from home instead of an office somewhere. I do the
shopping, cooking, most of the home food preserving, and a good bit of
the housekeeping. Now that she is retired she's underfoot all the time
and in my way. I get upset when she dirties my kitchen or leave dishes
in the sink instead of putting them in the dishwasher. I even made a
magnetic sign that says "Clean" on one side and "Dirty" on the other.
I'm thinking of trying to get her another job. <G>

I also keep an inventory list of my canned goods....too many times I saw
sales and bought then found I already had those items......Carol

my mom said "i married him for better or worse, but NOT for lunch every day"
Lees
"George Shirley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 9/25/2011 1:47 PM, Storrmmee wrote:
>> I am not sure if i like the fact we eat more variety or if we waste less
>> to
>> freezer burn, or if the quickness of the grocery list is my favorite...
>> and
>> the energy savings of not standing there with it open for eons helps too,
>> Lee
>> "Beti"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> No, I was serious. They're not allowed in the new freezer. It even has
>>>> a
>>>> lock on it. :-)
>>>
>>> Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on your view) I'm really the
>>> only one who cooks in the house. My Beloved just stands back and lets
>>> me organize everything. Which suits me just fine. :-)
>>>
>>> I second the inventory list. I finally did that this spring and it
>>> really makes a difference.
>>
>>
> We quit experiencing freezer burn when we bought our first FoodSaver some
> 20 years ago. I put meat, fruit, veggies, cooked meals, you name it, in
> the freezer and it comes out as good as new. I don't own stock in Tilia
> but sometimes wish I did.
>
> My grocery list is computer generated and goes aisle by aisle at the
> Kroger where I shop. Saves me time plus gives me a little extra to scout
> for new stuff. I know the meat market and produce managers and they give
> me some specials occasionally. They both know I can food and make jellies
> and jams. The produce manager will tell me when certain fruits are going
> on sale as they are getting older, most people won't buy fruit with a spot
> on it unless they're home preservers. I can get a few lbs of fruit in a
> net bag for a dollar when it is going "off." The butcher told me the days
> and times when meat that is close to it's "sell by" date and I can be
> there to dive into the used meat bin and stock up for half price.
> Yesterday I got six ribeyes and six NY strips for about half price. They
> were vacuum bagged, dated and identified, and into the freezer as soon as
> I got home.
>
> My Beloved started teaching again some years ago, about the time I started
> working from home instead of an office somewhere. I do the shopping,
> cooking, most of the home food preserving, and a good bit of the
> housekeeping. Now that she is retired she's underfoot all the time and in
> my way. I get upset when she dirties my kitchen or leave dishes in the
> sink instead of putting them in the dishwasher. I even made a magnetic
> sign that says "Clean" on one side and "Dirty" on the other. I'm thinking
> of trying to get her another job. <G>

"zxcvbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Storrmmee wrote:
>> give it a bit, i know little about sours but boron does she is in the
>> bread group and rfc, i swear she knows everything, Lees
>
>
> Even if it is dead, it'll start growing again eventually -- from the
> critters in the rye flour that I sometimes feed it with. (yeast and
> bacteria critters, not, you know, moth and weevil critters) ;-)
>
> BTW, I remember 3 loaves of bread for $1, and that was big loaves of
> decent white bread. Mrs. Baird's, I think. Roman Meal™ cost a little
> more. There weren't a lot of choices.

There will be now ... in your kitchen! Much better too
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"zxcvbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Storrmmee wrote:
>> i started wanting to bake bread for the health reasons, prices are
>> keeping me looking forward to it again, Lee
>> "gloria.p" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>> On 9/24/2011 9:31 AM, George Shirley wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was totally shocked at seeing a $3.39 price tag on a loaf of
>>>> multigrain bread at the market. I am getting ready to make another loaf
>>>> of my own whole wheat and am thinking of buying some bulk rice, whole
>>>> wheat, bread, and all-purpose flour to have on hand. With drought, a La
>>>> Nina year, and inflation it might be a smart move. Brown rice was over
>>>> $3.00 for a two-lb bag, that's getting ridiculous. Or maybe it's
>>>> because
>>>> I'm so old I can remember cheap prices.
>>>
>>> Yeah, I can remember bread at 15 cents a loaf in the 50s so it pains me
>>> to see it at $3.50-$4.99 for a fairly ordinary loaf. I may have to
>>> start baking sandwich bread again, too. Right now I make zucchini bread
>>> or Grandma's citron-and-almond bread 2-4 loaves at a time for breakfast.
>>> It keeps well in the freezer and is handy to have. Sandwich
>>> bread may be next. Barb's state fair loaf sounds good.
>>>
>>> Keep on baking and I hope your weather has cooled off enough to make it
>>> sound reasonable to light the oven.
>>>
>>> gloria p
>>
>>
>
>
> I just got my sourdough starter out of the fridge a couple of days ago to
> start baking my own bread again. I think the starter might be dead (was
> left alone in there for 3 months) I fed it and not much has happened. It
> smells like it might still be alive, but no bubbles yet.

Give it time Just keep feeding it until it does bubble.
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In article <j5kuor$kd3$[email protected]>, gloria.p
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Yeah, I can remember bread at 15 cents a loaf in the 50s so it pains me
> to see it at $3.50-$4.99 for a fairly ordinary loaf.

I remember earning $0.65/hr. So a loaf of bread took about 15 minutes
to earn.

Average wage here is around $16/hr, and a commercial whole wheat loaf
is about $2.50.

Seems to me the price of bread has gone down...

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On 9/25/2011 3:45 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article<j5kuor$kd3$[email protected]>, gloria.p
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I can remember bread at 15 cents a loaf in the 50s so it pains me
>> to see it at $3.50-$4.99 for a fairly ordinary loaf.
>
> I remember earning $0.65/hr. So a loaf of bread took about 15 minutes
> to earn.
>
> Average wage here is around $16/hr, and a commercial whole wheat loaf
> is about $2.50.
>
> Seems to me the price of bread has gone down...
>


It's all relative. That bread here is $3.49-4.99 and I am retired on a
fixed income that's less than a $6/hr. equivalent.

Inflation is a killer when you think you have saved more than enough for
retirement.

gloria p

On 9/25/2011 4:45 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article<j5kuor$kd3$[email protected]>, gloria.p
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I can remember bread at 15 cents a loaf in the 50s so it pains me
>> to see it at $3.50-$4.99 for a fairly ordinary loaf.
>
> I remember earning $0.65/hr. So a loaf of bread took about 15 minutes
> to earn.
>
> Average wage here is around $16/hr, and a commercial whole wheat loaf
> is about $2.50.
>
> Seems to me the price of bread has gone down...
>
Average wage around here is around $21 to $25 an hour, lots of heavy
industry, commercial whole wheat loaf is now at $3.39. Of course we have
no large bakeries here so most of the bread is coming from Houston or
Baton Rouge, transportation adds to the cost nowadays.

I started at twelve years of age pumping gas, changing oil, greasing
cars, stocking shelves in the grocery, etc. for twenty-five cents an
hour and I thought I was rich. Plus I got a discount on gas for my car.
Yes, I had a "farm" license when I was twelve and at fourteen got my
regular operator's license. That's when the gubmit felt that if you were
old enough to own a car you should be able to drive it. Of course, as a
minor, the car was in my Mom's name with me noted as the driver as Mom
no longer drove by then. I often think I was very lucky to be born when
I was. Which was a very long time ago. <G>

On 9/25/2011 5:22 PM, gloria.p wrote:
> On 9/25/2011 3:45 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
>> In article<j5kuor$kd3$[email protected]>, gloria.p
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, I can remember bread at 15 cents a loaf in the 50s so it pains me
>>> to see it at $3.50-$4.99 for a fairly ordinary loaf.
>>
>> I remember earning $0.65/hr. So a loaf of bread took about 15 minutes
>> to earn.
>>
>> Average wage here is around $16/hr, and a commercial whole wheat loaf
>> is about $2.50.
>>
>> Seems to me the price of bread has gone down...
>>
>
>
> It's all relative. That bread here is $3.49-4.99 and I am retired on a
> fixed income that's less than a $6/hr. equivalent.
>
> Inflation is a killer when you think you have saved more than enough for
> retirement.
>
> gloria p

That's why I still do tech writing Gloria, can do it from home and send
it to the client by email. Beats going out to work. Miz Anne is now
retired from teaching and is paying more attention to her art, big sale
and show coming up next month at the local country club. People that can
afford that place should be able to cough up some good money for fine art.

On 09/25/2011 11:42 AM, Beti wrote:
>> No, I was serious. They're not allowed in the new freezer. It even has a
>> lock on it. :-)
>
> Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on your view) I'm really the
> only one who cooks in the house. My Beloved just stands back and lets
> me organize everything. Which suits me just fine. :-)
>
> I second the inventory list. I finally did that this spring and it
> really makes a difference.

Thanks for the tip. I'm definitely going to do that. I've never done it
before, but I'll give it a try.

Serene

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On 09/25/2011 11:47 AM, George Shirley wrote:

> When our kids were small and curious our freezers had keys, we kept them
> locked. We both had these terrible visions of one falling in the chest
> freezer and the lid dropping and latching them in. When they were teens
> we had thoughts of putting them in the freezer until they grew up. Now
> that they're both in their late fifties we rather enjoy them all grown
> up and kids of their own to torment them.

My mom locked the freezer when we were kids, but we all knew how to get
into it.

Serene

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I am really curious if it works for you, or if it just works for those of us
with a touch of ocd, lol, Lees
"Serene Vannoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 09/25/2011 11:42 AM, Beti wrote:
>>> No, I was serious. They're not allowed in the new freezer. It even has a
>>> lock on it. :-)
>>
>> Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on your view) I'm really the
>> only one who cooks in the house. My Beloved just stands back and lets
>> me organize everything. Which suits me just fine. :-)
>>
>> I second the inventory list. I finally did that this spring and it
>> really makes a difference.
>
> Thanks for the tip. I'm definitely going to do that. I've never done it
> before, but I'll give it a try.
>
> Serene
>
> --
> http://www.momfoodproject.com

On 09/26/2011 05:34 AM, Storrmmee wrote:
> I am really curious if it works for you, or if it just works for those of us
> with a touch of ocd, lol, Lees

:-) Right now, all that's in there is 20 lbs. of flour and a couple
packages of pork belly, but I did make a sign and put it on the freezer.
It's a start. :-)

Saturday, I'm doing my big monthly shopping trip (usually Costco and
Grocery Outlet, but also Safeway if there's a big sale or I have the
right coupons) and it will be fuller after that. :-)

Serene

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another added benifit is a reminder of when you put in bulk items, and for
us a reminder the bulk item is in fact in there lurking, lol, Lee
"Serene Vannoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 09/26/2011 05:34 AM, Storrmmee wrote:
>> I am really curious if it works for you, or if it just works for those of
>> us
>> with a touch of ocd, lol, Lees
>
> :-) Right now, all that's in there is 20 lbs. of flour and a couple
> packages of pork belly, but I did make a sign and put it on the freezer.
> It's a start. :-)
>
> Saturday, I'm doing my big monthly shopping trip (usually Costco and
> Grocery Outlet, but also Safeway if there's a big sale or I have the right
> coupons) and it will be fuller after that. :-)
>
> Serene
>
> --
> http://www.momfoodproject.com

On 9/25/2011 8:54 PM, Serene Vannoy wrote:
> On 09/25/2011 11:42 AM, Beti wrote:
>>> No, I was serious. They're not allowed in the new freezer. It even has a
>>> lock on it. :-)
>>
>> Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on your view) I'm really the
>> only one who cooks in the house. My Beloved just stands back and lets
>> me organize everything. Which suits me just fine. :-)
>>
>> I second the inventory list. I finally did that this spring and it
>> really makes a difference.
>
> Thanks for the tip. I'm definitely going to do that. I've never done it
> before, but I'll give it a try.
>
> Serene
>
It works to a certain extent in our home, I follow the list, wife
doesn't. So, periodically I re-inventory both freezers and the pantry.
We live in hurricane territory so have extra stocks of food that doesn't
need a lot of preparation. Starting in December we will eat those up and
then restock next June.

I'm not OCD Lee, just like to know what I have on hand at any given
time. When She Who Must Be Obeyed was in charge of the kitchen I would
sometimes find three or four boxes of the same item in the pantry, she
didn't use a shopping list. My shopping list is set up each aisle at the
local Kroger store and has the named items that we use the most plus
blank spaces for occasional use items. Computer generated and
religiously followed. When she goes with me to shop, a rare thing, I
find stuff that wasn't on my list in the basket, she is an impulse
shopper. If I have coupon for an item that is marked on the list with a
"C." Since Kroger puts special coupons I have selected online on my
shopper card I have to double check before I go shopping.

Well, maybe I am OCD after all. <G>

Do any of you inventory your home preserved goodies? I do, way to many
descendants not to keep track.

On 9/25/2011 10:12 PM, Serene Vannoy wrote:
> On 09/25/2011 11:47 AM, George Shirley wrote:
>
>> When our kids were small and curious our freezers had keys, we kept them
>> locked. We both had these terrible visions of one falling in the chest
>> freezer and the lid dropping and latching them in. When they were teens
>> we had thoughts of putting them in the freezer until they grew up. Now
>> that they're both in their late fifties we rather enjoy them all grown
>> up and kids of their own to torment them.
>
> My mom locked the freezer when we were kids, but we all knew how to get
> into it.
>
> Serene
>
Whoops! Our kids are in their late forties. If they were in their
fifties they would be illegitimate as we have only been married fifty
years. <G>