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  1. #1
    Melba's Jammin' Guest

    Default Ping: Jorge and zxcvbob

    Refresh my memory -- whatever happened to Jack and our FAQ file?
    --
    Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
    Holy Order of the Sacred Sisters of St. Pectina of Jella
    "Always in a jam, never in a stew; sometimes in a pickle."
    Pepparkakor particulars posted 11-29-2010;
    http://web.me.com/barbschaller

  2. #2
    George Shirley Guest

    Default Re: Ping: Jorge and zxcvbob

    On 2/9/2011 10:53 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
    > Refresh my memory -- whatever happened to Jack and our FAQ file?


    AFAIK he just up and disappeared one day. Don't remember seeing a post
    from or anything. Can't find that FAQ file on the web, all the copycats
    have the one by Pope Eric the Last.

  3. #3
    George Shirley Guest

    Default Re: Ping: Jorge and zxcvbob

    On 2/10/2011 8:58 AM, George Shirley wrote:
    > On 2/9/2011 10:53 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
    >> Refresh my memory -- whatever happened to Jack and our FAQ file?

    >
    > AFAIK he just up and disappeared one day. Don't remember seeing a post
    > from or anything. Can't find that FAQ file on the web, all the copycats
    > have the one by Pope Eric the Last.


    Follow-up: seems Jack's domain name is up for sale, no mention of what
    happened to he or the rfp FAQ. Could find no sources for Jack's version
    of the FAQ anywhere on the web.

    Looks like it is all gone as of 2004.

  4. #4
    zxcvbob Guest

    Default Re: Ping: Jorge and zxcvbob

    George Shirley wrote:
    > On 2/9/2011 10:53 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
    >> Refresh my memory -- whatever happened to Jack and our FAQ file?

    >
    > AFAIK he just up and disappeared one day. Don't remember seeing a post
    > from or anything. Can't find that FAQ file on the web, all the copycats
    > have the one by Pope Eric the Last.



    I found a copy on the Wayback Machine:
    http://web.archive.org/web/200511240...faq/rfpFAQ.htm

    I have no idea what the story is.

    -Bob

  5. #5
    Ophelia Guest

    Default Re: Ping: Jorge and zxcvbob



    "zxcvbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > George Shirley wrote:
    >> On 2/9/2011 10:53 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
    >>> Refresh my memory -- whatever happened to Jack and our FAQ file?

    >>
    >> AFAIK he just up and disappeared one day. Don't remember seeing a post
    >> from or anything. Can't find that FAQ file on the web, all the copycats
    >> have the one by Pope Eric the Last.

    >
    >
    > I found a copy on the Wayback Machine:
    > http://web.archive.org/web/200511240...faq/rfpFAQ.htm
    >
    > I have no idea what the story is.


    Oh! I have that one in my 'favourites'.
    --
    --

    https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/


  6. #6
    Doug Freyburger Guest

    Default Re: Ping: Jorge and zxcvbob

    George Shirley wrote:
    >
    > Follow-up: seems Jack's domain name is up for sale, no mention of what
    > happened to he or the rfp FAQ. Could find no sources for Jack's version
    > of the FAQ anywhere on the web.
    >
    > Looks like it is all gone as of 2004.


    I take it you mean this one that is only a pointer to a FAQ -

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.f...f52d67e5bd1173

    > From: "SCUBApix" <jacke683...@noyahoo.com>

    Newsgroups: rec.food.preserving,misc.consumers.frugal-living,misc.survivalism
    Subject: frpFAQ availability - Monthly Announcement
    Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 12:33:14 -0400

    The rec.food.preserving FAQ is available at
    http://www.gbronline.com/jacke/rfpfaq/rfpFAQ.htm . There has been one
    change since the last announcement:
    1) Section B.1.6 (new) has been added and all other B.1.x have been adjusted
    to reflect this addition. This new Section references a paper on paper
    "Should I vacuum package food at home?" along with an URL to a Yahoo Group
    on the FoodSaver.

    We are now at Version 4.2.7.

    A detailed, chronological ordering of changes to the FAQ can be found
    at http://www.gbronline.com/jacke/rfpfaq/differences.htm . This is the
    monthly posting of the availablility of the FAQ.

    You may also download a single text file of the FAQ. Just start at the
    above place (rfpFAQ.htm) and you will see a link for download where it
    talks about the 'differences' file. The new text file opens in your
    browser and then you just click 'file' and 'save as' and you should
    have it.

    Let me know if there are any difficulties


    --
    Take Care,
    Jack/ScubaPix



  7. #7
    Melba's Jammin' Guest

    Default Re: Ping: Jorge and zxcvbob

    In article <[email protected]>,
    zxcvbob <[email protected]> wrote:
    > I found a copy on the Wayback Machine:
    > http://web.archive.org/web/200511240...om/jacke/rfpfa
    > q/rfpFAQ.htm
    >
    > I have no idea what the story is.
    >
    > -Bob


    Will that link work forever?

    --
    Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
    Holy Order of the Sacred Sisters of St. Pectina of Jella
    "Always in a jam, never in a stew; sometimes in a pickle."
    Pepparkakor particulars posted 11-29-2010;
    http://web.me.com/barbschaller

  8. #8
    Melba's Jammin' Guest

    Default Re: Ping: Jorge and zxcvbob

    In article <4d53fd4a$0$6275$[email protected]>,
    George Shirley <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On 2/9/2011 10:53 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
    > > Refresh my memory -- whatever happened to Jack and our FAQ file?

    >
    > AFAIK he just up and disappeared one day. Don't remember seeing a post
    > from or anything. Can't find that FAQ file on the web, all the copycats
    > have the one by Pope Eric the Last.


    I think he did tell us he wasn't going to host it anymore.
    --
    Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
    Holy Order of the Sacred Sisters of St. Pectina of Jella
    "Always in a jam, never in a stew; sometimes in a pickle."
    Pepparkakor particulars posted 11-29-2010;
    http://web.me.com/barbschaller

  9. #9
    zxcvbob Guest

    Default Re: Ping: Jorge and zxcvbob

    Melba's Jammin' wrote:
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > zxcvbob <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> I found a copy on the Wayback Machine:
    >> [http://web.archive.org/web/200511240...aq/rfpFAQ.htm]
    >>

    >
    > Will that link work forever?
    >



    Maybe. (what is forever anyway on the Internet?)

    -Bob

  10. #10
    George Shirley Guest

    Default Re: Ping: Jorge and zxcvbob

    On 2/10/2011 2:33 PM, Doug Freyburger wrote:
    > George Shirley wrote:
    >>
    >> Follow-up: seems Jack's domain name is up for sale, no mention of what
    >> happened to he or the rfp FAQ. Could find no sources for Jack's version
    >> of the FAQ anywhere on the web.
    >>
    >> Looks like it is all gone as of 2004.

    >
    > I take it you mean this one that is only a pointer to a FAQ -
    >
    > http://groups.google.com/group/rec.f...f52d67e5bd1173
    >
    >> From: "SCUBApix"<jacke683...@noyahoo.com>

    > Newsgroups: rec.food.preserving,misc.consumers.frugal-living,misc.survivalism
    > Subject: frpFAQ availability - Monthly Announcement
    > Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 12:33:14 -0400
    >
    > The rec.food.preserving FAQ is available at
    > http://www.gbronline.com/jacke/rfpfaq/rfpFAQ.htm . There has been one
    > change since the last announcement:
    > 1) Section B.1.6 (new) has been added and all other B.1.x have been adjusted
    > to reflect this addition. This new Section references a paper on paper
    > "Should I vacuum package food at home?" along with an URL to a Yahoo Group
    > on the FoodSaver.
    >
    > We are now at Version 4.2.7.
    >
    > A detailed, chronological ordering of changes to the FAQ can be found
    > at http://www.gbronline.com/jacke/rfpfaq/differences.htm . This is the
    > monthly posting of the availablility of the FAQ.
    >
    > You may also download a single text file of the FAQ. Just start at the
    > above place (rfpFAQ.htm) and you will see a link for download where it
    > talks about the 'differences' file. The new text file opens in your
    > browser and then you just click 'file' and 'save as' and you should
    > have it.
    >
    > Let me know if there are any difficulties
    >
    >
    > --
    > Take Care,
    > Jack/ScubaPix
    >
    >

    That's just the message from Jack, I could find no trace of the FAQ
    anywhere on line. A trace to gbronline shows a page that says the domain
    is for sale and has no content.

  11. #11
    George Shirley Guest

    Default Re: Ping: Jorge and zxcvbob

    On 2/10/2011 12:22 PM, zxcvbob wrote:
    > George Shirley wrote:
    >> On 2/9/2011 10:53 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
    >>> Refresh my memory -- whatever happened to Jack and our FAQ file?

    >>
    >> AFAIK he just up and disappeared one day. Don't remember seeing a post
    >> from or anything. Can't find that FAQ file on the web, all the
    >> copycats have the one by Pope Eric the Last.

    >
    >
    > I found a copy on the Wayback Machine:
    > http://web.archive.org/web/200511240...faq/rfpFAQ.htm
    >
    >
    > I have no idea what the story is.
    >
    > -Bob


    Slaps self on forehead, I didn't even think of wayback. Must be the last
    version Jack published. Anyone want to take on the job of keeping it up.

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    Doug Freyburger Guest

    Default Re: Ping: Jorge and zxcvbob

    zxcvbob wrote:
    >
    > I found a copy on the Wayback Machine:
    > http://web.archive.org/web/200511240...faq/rfpFAQ.htm


    I saved the text version it mentions. The copyright notice says it can
    be copied. Should I post it so it goes in the google archives?

  13. #13
    The Cook Guest

    Default Re: Ping: Jorge and zxcvbob

    On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:54:08 -0600, George Shirley
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On 2/10/2011 12:22 PM, zxcvbob wrote:
    >> George Shirley wrote:
    >>> On 2/9/2011 10:53 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
    >>>> Refresh my memory -- whatever happened to Jack and our FAQ file?
    >>>
    >>> AFAIK he just up and disappeared one day. Don't remember seeing a post
    >>> from or anything. Can't find that FAQ file on the web, all the
    >>> copycats have the one by Pope Eric the Last.

    >>
    >>
    >> I found a copy on the Wayback Machine:
    >> http://web.archive.org/web/200511240...faq/rfpFAQ.htm
    >>
    >>
    >> I have no idea what the story is.
    >>
    >> -Bob

    >
    >Slaps self on forehead, I didn't even think of wayback. Must be the last
    >version Jack published. Anyone want to take on the job of keeping it up.


    I think I got the whole thing, 78K. I just went in and did a mark and
    copy. Saved it as a text file.
    --
    Susan N.

    "Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
    48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
    Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

  14. #14
    George Shirley Guest

    Default Re: Ping: Jorge and zxcvbob

    On 2/10/2011 4:01 PM, Doug Freyburger wrote:
    > zxcvbob wrote:
    >>
    >> I found a copy on the Wayback Machine:
    >> http://web.archive.org/web/200511240...faq/rfpFAQ.htm

    >
    > I saved the text version it mentions. The copyright notice says it can
    > be copied. Should I post it so it goes in the google archives?


    Why not!

  15. #15
    Melba's Jammin' Guest

    Default Re: Ping: Jorge and zxcvbob

    In article <4d547778$0$25594$[email protected]>,
    George Shirley <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On 2/10/2011 4:01 PM, Doug Freyburger wrote:
    > > zxcvbob wrote:
    > >>
    > >> I found a copy on the Wayback Machine:
    > >> http://web.archive.org/web/200511240...e.com/jacke/rf
    > >> pfaq/rfpFAQ.htm

    > >
    > > I saved the text version it mentions. The copyright notice says it can
    > > be copied. Should I post it so it goes in the google archives?

    >
    > Why not!


    It is a huge file!!

    --
    Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
    Holy Order of the Sacred Sisters of St. Pectina of Jella
    "Always in a jam, never in a stew; sometimes in a pickle."
    Pepparkakor particulars posted 11-29-2010;
    http://web.me.com/barbschaller

  16. #16
    George Shirley Guest

    Default Re: Ping: Jorge and zxcvbob

    On 2/10/2011 8:04 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
    > In article<4d547778$0$25594$[email protected]>,
    > George Shirley<[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> On 2/10/2011 4:01 PM, Doug Freyburger wrote:
    >>> zxcvbob wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>> I found a copy on the Wayback Machine:
    >>>> http://web.archive.org/web/200511240...e.com/jacke/rf
    >>>> pfaq/rfpFAQ.htm
    >>>
    >>> I saved the text version it mentions. The copyright notice says it can
    >>> be copied. Should I post it so it goes in the google archives?

    >>
    >> Why not!

    >
    > It is a huge file!!
    >

    Not really, I downloaded it as a text file, 502 KB isn't that large.

  17. #17
    Whirled Peas Guest

    Default Re: Ping: Jorge and zxcvbob

    On 02/10/2011 12:45 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
    > In article<4d53fd4a$0$6275$[email protected]>,
    > George Shirley<[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> On 2/9/2011 10:53 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
    >>> Refresh my memory -- whatever happened to Jack and our FAQ file?

    >>
    >> AFAIK he just up and disappeared one day. Don't remember seeing a post
    >> from or anything. Can't find that FAQ file on the web, all the copycats
    >> have the one by Pope Eric the Last.

    >
    > I think he did tell us he wasn't going to host it anymore.


    One of Jack's last messages said that his domain expired because the
    domain registrar didn't inform him of the deadline. In the meantime, a
    cybersquatter apparently picked up the domain and probably wants a hefty
    premium to give it back.

    I have managed to download all the HTML for the rfpFAQ from the Wayback
    Machine. Unfortunately, one part is missing -- Part 6. This is a bit
    suspicious since it contains the discussion of distilling, making your
    own liqueurs, cheese making and other stuff. I think it was redacted on
    purpose.

    However, all is not totally lost. The text-only version still has the
    text part of Part 6 and could probably have the appropriate HTML put
    back in, since there are numerous examples in the other eight parts.

    I'll be happy to share what I have, but somebody will have to tell me
    how to post HTML to Usenet without breaking any rules. Also, it's not
    too early to be thinking about a permanent home for this and somebody to
    maintain it.

  18. #18
    George Shirley Guest

    Default Re: Ping: Jorge and zxcvbob

    On 2/10/2011 11:22 PM, Whirled Peas wrote:
    > On 02/10/2011 12:45 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
    >> In article<4d53fd4a$0$6275$[email protected]>,
    >> George Shirley<[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> On 2/9/2011 10:53 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
    >>>> Refresh my memory -- whatever happened to Jack and our FAQ file?
    >>>
    >>> AFAIK he just up and disappeared one day. Don't remember seeing a post
    >>> from or anything. Can't find that FAQ file on the web, all the copycats
    >>> have the one by Pope Eric the Last.

    >>
    >> I think he did tell us he wasn't going to host it anymore.

    >
    > One of Jack's last messages said that his domain expired because the
    > domain registrar didn't inform him of the deadline. In the meantime, a
    > cybersquatter apparently picked up the domain and probably wants a hefty
    > premium to give it back.
    >
    > I have managed to download all the HTML for the rfpFAQ from the Wayback
    > Machine. Unfortunately, one part is missing -- Part 6. This is a bit
    > suspicious since it contains the discussion of distilling, making your
    > own liqueurs, cheese making and other stuff. I think it was redacted on
    > purpose.
    >
    > However, all is not totally lost. The text-only version still has the
    > text part of Part 6 and could probably have the appropriate HTML put
    > back in, since there are numerous examples in the other eight parts.
    >
    > I'll be happy to share what I have, but somebody will have to tell me
    > how to post HTML to Usenet without breaking any rules. Also, it's not
    > too early to be thinking about a permanent home for this and somebody to
    > maintain it.


    I'm thinking someone with more cybersense than us old people will most
    likely volunteer. Any volunteers out there?


    George, Father Confessor/Inquisitor, HOSSSPOJ

  19. #19
    Dave Balderstone Guest

    Default Re: Ping: Jorge and zxcvbob

    In article <4d553893$0$25632$[email protected]>, George Shirley
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On 2/10/2011 11:22 PM, Whirled Peas wrote:
    > > On 02/10/2011 12:45 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
    > >> In article<4d53fd4a$0$6275$[email protected]>,
    > >> George Shirley<[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>
    > >>> On 2/9/2011 10:53 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
    > >>>> Refresh my memory -- whatever happened to Jack and our FAQ file?
    > >>>
    > >>> AFAIK he just up and disappeared one day. Don't remember seeing a post
    > >>> from or anything. Can't find that FAQ file on the web, all the copycats
    > >>> have the one by Pope Eric the Last.
    > >>
    > >> I think he did tell us he wasn't going to host it anymore.

    > >
    > > One of Jack's last messages said that his domain expired because the
    > > domain registrar didn't inform him of the deadline. In the meantime, a
    > > cybersquatter apparently picked up the domain and probably wants a hefty
    > > premium to give it back.
    > >
    > > I have managed to download all the HTML for the rfpFAQ from the Wayback
    > > Machine. Unfortunately, one part is missing -- Part 6. This is a bit
    > > suspicious since it contains the discussion of distilling, making your
    > > own liqueurs, cheese making and other stuff. I think it was redacted on
    > > purpose.
    > >
    > > However, all is not totally lost. The text-only version still has the
    > > text part of Part 6 and could probably have the appropriate HTML put
    > > back in, since there are numerous examples in the other eight parts.
    > >
    > > I'll be happy to share what I have, but somebody will have to tell me
    > > how to post HTML to Usenet without breaking any rules. Also, it's not
    > > too early to be thinking about a permanent home for this and somebody to
    > > maintain it.

    >
    > I'm thinking someone with more cybersense than us old people will most
    > likely volunteer. Any volunteers out there?


    I've downloaded all the available parts and the text version. As I am
    recently unemployed I do have a bit of time on my hands. I'll work on
    getting it all reformatted and am willing to host it on balderstone.ca,
    perhaps in a wiki format so it can be easily updated and maintained by
    more than one person...

  20. #20
    Ophelia Guest

    Default Re: Ping: Jorge and zxcvbob



    "George Shirley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:4d553893$0$25632$[email protected]..
    > On 2/10/2011 11:22 PM, Whirled Peas wrote:
    >> On 02/10/2011 12:45 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
    >>> In article<4d53fd4a$0$6275$[email protected]>,
    >>> George Shirley<[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On 2/9/2011 10:53 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
    >>>>> Refresh my memory -- whatever happened to Jack and our FAQ file?
    >>>>
    >>>> AFAIK he just up and disappeared one day. Don't remember seeing a post
    >>>> from or anything. Can't find that FAQ file on the web, all the copycats
    >>>> have the one by Pope Eric the Last.
    >>>
    >>> I think he did tell us he wasn't going to host it anymore.

    >>
    >> One of Jack's last messages said that his domain expired because the
    >> domain registrar didn't inform him of the deadline. In the meantime, a
    >> cybersquatter apparently picked up the domain and probably wants a hefty
    >> premium to give it back.
    >>
    >> I have managed to download all the HTML for the rfpFAQ from the Wayback
    >> Machine. Unfortunately, one part is missing -- Part 6. This is a bit
    >> suspicious since it contains the discussion of distilling, making your
    >> own liqueurs, cheese making and other stuff. I think it was redacted on
    >> purpose.
    >>
    >> However, all is not totally lost. The text-only version still has the
    >> text part of Part 6 and could probably have the appropriate HTML put
    >> back in, since there are numerous examples in the other eight parts.
    >>
    >> I'll be happy to share what I have, but somebody will have to tell me
    >> how to post HTML to Usenet without breaking any rules. Also, it's not
    >> too early to be thinking about a permanent home for this and somebody to
    >> maintain it.

    >
    > I'm thinking someone with more cybersense than us old people will most
    > likely volunteer. Any volunteers out there?


    If I knew how I would...

    O, one of the old people!
    --

    https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/


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