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  1. #1
    songbird Guest

    Default concord grape jam hurrah

    they're popping now.

    - 12 half pints
    - 6 larger jars (12-14oz)
    - 3 smaller jars

    after all the fun i had with
    picking rotting grapes off the
    vine every day (nice shade
    under the arbor ) and worry
    about rampaging raccoons
    and Hitchcockian Birds, finally
    i can call it done and eat the
    rest as they ripen. if i get around
    to it. i'll leave the netting on for
    a few more days as the sun is
    going to be beating down and the
    temp is going to be in the 90s.

    increase in production from
    previous year about 1000%.
    price per jar increase about
    3000% but the collander will
    be useful for other things (we
    needed one) and the new half-
    pint jars were a treat.

    peace,


    songbird

  2. #2
    George Shirley Guest

    Default Re: concord grape jam hurrah

    On 8/28/2010 4:10 PM, songbird wrote:
    > they're popping now.
    >
    > - 12 half pints
    > - 6 larger jars (12-14oz)
    > - 3 smaller jars
    >
    > after all the fun i had with
    > picking rotting grapes off the
    > vine every day (nice shade under the arbor ) and worry about
    > rampaging raccoons
    > and Hitchcockian Birds, finally i can call it done and eat the rest as
    > they ripen. if i get around to it. i'll leave the netting on for a few
    > more days as the sun is going to be beating down and the temp is going
    > to be in the 90s.
    >
    > increase in production from
    > previous year about 1000%.
    > price per jar increase about
    > 3000% but the collander will
    > be useful for other things (we needed one) and the new half-
    > pint jars were a treat.
    >
    > peace,
    >
    >
    > songbird


    Good work. I still think you should make some home made wine. Doesn't
    take a lot of work just some sugar, yeast and a little water then let it
    sit and bubble until done. I used to use a five-gallon plastic jug with
    a screw-on lid with a spout on it. I hooked up some quarter-inch
    diameter tygon tubing to that spout, ran it down and into a quart jar
    three-quarters full of water and let her bubble until done. I kept it in
    the shower stall in the guest bathroom.

  3. #3
    George Shirley Guest

    Default Re: concord grape jam hurrah

    On 8/28/2010 4:18 PM, George Shirley wrote:
    > On 8/28/2010 4:10 PM, songbird wrote:
    >> they're popping now.
    >>
    >> - 12 half pints
    >> - 6 larger jars (12-14oz)
    >> - 3 smaller jars
    >>
    >> after all the fun i had with
    >> picking rotting grapes off the
    >> vine every day (nice shade under the arbor ) and worry about
    >> rampaging raccoons
    >> and Hitchcockian Birds, finally i can call it done and eat the rest as
    >> they ripen. if i get around to it. i'll leave the netting on for a few
    >> more days as the sun is going to be beating down and the temp is going
    >> to be in the 90s.
    >>
    >> increase in production from
    >> previous year about 1000%.
    >> price per jar increase about
    >> 3000% but the collander will
    >> be useful for other things (we needed one) and the new half-
    >> pint jars were a treat.
    >>
    >> peace,
    >>
    >>
    >> songbird

    >
    > Good work. I still think you should make some home made wine. Doesn't
    > take a lot of work just some sugar, yeast and a little water then let it
    > sit and bubble until done. I used to use a five-gallon plastic jug with
    > a screw-on lid with a spout on it. I hooked up some quarter-inch
    > diameter tygon tubing to that spout, ran it down and into a quart jar
    > three-quarters full of water and let her bubble until done. I kept it in
    > the shower stall in the guest bathroom.


    I should have added that, if you don't drink alcoholic beverages, you
    could turn it into a nice vinegar.

  4. #4
    gloria.p Guest

    Default Re: concord grape jam hurrah

    songbird wrote:
    > they're popping now.
    >
    >
    > after all the fun i had with
    > picking rotting grapes off the
    > vine every day (nice shade under the arbor ) and worry about
    > rampaging raccoons and Hitchcockian Birds, finally i can call it done and eat the rest as
    > they ripen.



    Wow, looking outside, I have to think you are a lot further south than
    we are (Denver area). Ours are still pretty green with one or two in
    each bunch just beginning to change color. We've already had a visit
    from the raccoons. I could hear them on the roof, sounded as though
    people were walking around out there. They'll get the major share of
    the grapes, but they evidently don't eat apricots and even the squirrels
    and birds didn't do much damage this year.

    Enjoy your jam!

    gloria p

  5. #5
    songbird Guest

    Default Re: concord grape jam hurrah

    gloria.p wrote:
    > songbird wrote:


    >> they're popping now.
    >>
    >>
    >> after all the fun i had with
    >> picking rotting grapes off the
    >> vine every day (nice shade under the arbor ) and worry about
    >> rampaging raccoons and Hitchcockian Birds, finally i can call it
    >> done and eat the rest as they ripen.

    >
    >
    > Wow, looking outside, I have to think you are a lot further south than
    > we are (Denver area).


    i'm near:

    43.29N 84.15W (Elev. 590 ft)
    (mid michigan)

    probably the lower elevation and the
    fact that we've had a lot of very hot weather
    and very little rain has sped things up a few
    weeks. normally i'm a little later than this
    when i harvest most of the grapes. i still have
    about 10% left and most of them are quite
    green so i'll have grapes for a few weeks
    yet unless the critters or hard frost gets
    them first.


    > Ours are still pretty green with one or two in
    > each bunch just beginning to change color. We've already had a visit
    > from the raccoons. I could hear them on the roof, sounded as though
    > people were walking around out there. They'll get the major share of
    > the grapes, but they evidently don't eat apricots and even the
    > squirrels and birds didn't do much damage this year.
    >
    > Enjoy your jam!


    thank you, it's yummy, i had some leftover
    little bit for testing on some crackers with
    peanut butter. it's not as good as last year's
    batch, but perfectly acceptable and 10 times
    better than store bought as it still has
    texture and more zing than they have.

    Denver is a nice place, i've spent a fair
    amount of time around there as my sister
    used to live there. if it weren't so dry
    i could consider living there.


    songbird


  6. #6
    songbird Guest

    Default Re: concord grape jam hurrah

    George Shirley wrote:
    > On 8/28/2010 4:18 PM, George Shirley wrote:

    ....
    >> Good work.


    thanks George,


    >> I still think you should make some home made wine. Doesn't
    >> take a lot of work just some sugar, yeast and a little water then
    >> let it sit and bubble until done. I used to use a five-gallon
    >> plastic jug with a screw-on lid with a spout on it. I hooked up some
    >> quarter-inch diameter tygon tubing to that spout, ran it down and
    >> into a quart jar three-quarters full of water and let her bubble
    >> until done. I kept it in the shower stall in the guest bathroom.

    >
    > I should have added that, if you don't drink alcoholic beverages, you
    > could turn it into a nice vinegar.


    right, i'm not much of a drinker George. thanks
    for the idea. my ex-step-dad was heavy into
    wine-making for many years, and i did a lot of
    reading up on it to help him out with questions and
    we talked a lot about different recipes. i'm pretty
    decent on most techniques of wine making and not
    afraid to use the library (or internet these days) if
    i'm curious. most of it though gives me headaches
    or leaves me feeling poor so i don't drink now.

    the first good year i grew concords at the old place
    (30 years ago, before i went off to college) he made
    a good batch of concord wine that i could drink. since
    i had 4 vines and no rot or raccoon troubles i had
    plenty of grapes that year. the next year i went
    away to college and Ma wrote me a letter that
    started "I cut back the grapes and the roses..." if
    you could have heard me scream... :-O i had one
    more year of work with the vines to restore them
    before the house was sold (no crop that year).

    fast forward to here, one grape vine, no room
    for more at the moment and having to cope with
    critters and rot, i'm really wanting the grapes for
    eating and jam making first and if i get a huge
    crop next year i'll consider other uses but probably
    will go for grape juice (as i love that too) and
    more jam for gifting.


    songbird

  7. #7
    Wayne Boatwright Guest

    Default Re: concord grape jam hurrah

    On Sat 28 Aug 2010 02:10:06p, songbird told us...

    > they're popping now.
    >
    > - 12 half pints
    > - 6 larger jars (12-14oz)
    > - 3 smaller jars
    >
    > after all the fun i had with
    > picking rotting grapes off the
    > vine every day (nice shade
    > under the arbor ) and worry
    > about rampaging raccoons
    > and Hitchcockian Birds, finally
    > i can call it done and eat the
    > rest as they ripen. if i get around
    > to it. i'll leave the netting on for
    > a few more days as the sun is
    > going to be beating down and the
    > temp is going to be in the 90s.
    >
    > increase in production from
    > previous year about 1000%.
    > price per jar increase about
    > 3000% but the collander will
    > be useful for other things (we
    > needed one) and the new half-
    > pint jars were a treat.
    >
    > peace,
    >
    >
    > songbird


    It sounds wonderful!

    I was never fortunate to have grapes growing in our yard, but our
    last house in Ohio was in the country and only a few miles from a
    vineyard that supplied the major part of their crop to Welch's. The
    remainder were sold locally, either for picking or already picked.
    Each summer we would buy a peck and make bathes of grape jam. So
    dellicious.

    We did have Italian plum trees on our property and would make plum
    jam each year. Also delicious.

    --

    ~~ If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. ~~

    ~~ A mind is a terrible thing to lose. ~~

    ************************************************** ********

    Wayne Boatwright


  8. #8
    songbird Guest

    Default Re: concord grape jam hurrah

    Wayne Boatwright wrote:
    ....
    > It sounds wonderful!


    it is, thanks! today i was at a relatives
    place where they had a concord on a normal
    trellis. they have a prime location, on a hill
    in sandy loam. i was so envious as there
    was no rot trouble observed. just nice
    bunches of ripening grapes.

    i snuck a grape ( ) and forgot to ask
    if they were going to make jam or juice
    with them.


    > I was never fortunate to have grapes growing in our yard, but our
    > last house in Ohio was in the country and only a few miles from a
    > vineyard that supplied the major part of their crop to Welch's. The
    > remainder were sold locally, either for picking or already picked.
    > Each summer we would buy a peck and make bathes of grape jam. So
    > dellicious.


    that smell is so wonderful and like many
    garden smells hard to capture completely in
    jam.

    like the smell of good dirt itself. in the
    middle of winter i want that smell along
    with the green growing smell so i visit the
    friendly greenhouse once in a while and
    browse a bit.

    today, while out walking, i was reminded
    that ripening corn has some wonderful
    smells.


    > We did have Italian plum trees on our property and would make plum
    > jam each year. Also delicious.


    i'll bet. what is the difference between
    Italian plums and the purple plums you'd see
    at the store (or those turned into prunes)?


    songbird

  9. #9
    Wayne Boatwright Guest

    Default Re: concord grape jam hurrah

    On Mon 30 Aug 2010 05:18:44a, songbird told us...

    > Wayne Boatwright wrote:
    > ...
    >> It sounds wonderful!

    >
    > it is, thanks! today i was at a relatives
    > place where they had a concord on a normal
    > trellis. they have a prime location, on a hill
    > in sandy loam. i was so envious as there
    > was no rot trouble observed. just nice
    > bunches of ripening grapes.
    >
    > i snuck a grape ( ) and forgot to ask
    > if they were going to make jam or juice
    > with them.
    >
    >
    >> I was never fortunate to have grapes growing in our yard, but our
    >> last house in Ohio was in the country and only a few miles from a
    >> vineyard that supplied the major part of their crop to Welch's.
    >> The remainder were sold locally, either for picking or already
    >> picked. Each summer we would buy a peck and make bathes of grape
    >> jam. So dellicious.

    >
    > that smell is so wonderful and like many
    > garden smells hard to capture completely in
    > jam.
    >
    > like the smell of good dirt itself. in the
    > middle of winter i want that smell along
    > with the green growing smell so i visit the
    > friendly greenhouse once in a while and
    > browse a bit.
    >
    > today, while out walking, i was reminded
    > that ripening corn has some wonderful
    > smells.


    Such wonderful images you evoke!

    >> We did have Italian plum trees on our property and would make
    >> plum jam each year. Also delicious.

    >
    > i'll bet. what is the difference between
    > Italian plums and the purple plums you'd see
    > at the store (or those turned into prunes)?


    The Italian plus are also dark purple, but they are a bit smaller and
    the flesh is more dense with a stronger plum flavor and a bit less
    liquid.

    I made jam once from plus you'd buy at the market. It paled by
    comparison.


    --

    ~~ If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. ~~

    ~~ A mind is a terrible thing to lose. ~~

    ************************************************** ********

    Wayne Boatwright


  10. #10
    songbird Guest

    Default Re: concord grape jam hurrah

    Wayne Boatwright wrote:
    >songbird told us...
    >> Wayne Boatwright wrote:

    ....
    >>> I was never fortunate to have grapes growing in our yard, but our
    >>> last house in Ohio was in the country and only a few miles from a
    >>> vineyard that supplied the major part of their crop to Welch's.
    >>> The remainder were sold locally, either for picking or already
    >>> picked. Each summer we would buy a peck and make bathes of grape
    >>> jam. So dellicious.

    >>
    >> that smell is so wonderful and like many
    >> garden smells hard to capture completely in
    >> jam.
    >>
    >> like the smell of good dirt itself. in the
    >> middle of winter i want that smell along
    >> with the green growing smell so i visit the
    >> friendly greenhouse once in a while and
    >> browse a bit.
    >>
    >> today, while out walking, i was reminded
    >> that ripening corn has some wonderful
    >> smells.

    >
    > Such wonderful images you evoke!


    thanks, sometimes i get the
    words in the right order (like
    a shakespearean monkey on crack
    *snicker*).

    i went out today and examined
    the brain's underside to see if
    enough of the remaining grapes
    were going ripen all at once to
    make a small batch. it looks
    good for Thursday if they are
    still there. i need some smaller
    jars to give away as i realized
    i was not spreading the love
    around enough using 18oz jars
    (i thought those were 12-14oz!
    Doh!).


    >>> We did have Italian plum trees on our property and would make
    >>> plum jam each year. Also delicious.

    >>
    >> i'll bet. what is the difference between
    >> Italian plums and the purple plums you'd see
    >> at the store (or those turned into prunes)?

    >
    > The Italian plus are also dark purple, but they are a bit smaller and
    > the flesh is more dense with a stronger plum flavor and a bit less
    > liquid.
    >
    > I made jam once from plus you'd buy at the market. It paled by
    > comparison.


    ok, thanks for description,


    songbird

  11. #11
    Wayne Boatwright Guest

    Default Re: concord grape jam hurrah

    On Tue 31 Aug 2010 01:34:01p, songbird told us...

    > Wayne Boatwright wrote:
    >>songbird told us...
    >>> Wayne Boatwright wrote: ...
    >>>> I was never fortunate to have grapes growing in our yard, but
    >>>> our last house in Ohio was in the country and only a few miles
    >>>> from a vineyard that supplied the major part of their crop to
    >>>> Welch's. The remainder were sold locally, either for picking or
    >>>> already picked. Each summer we would buy a peck and make bathes
    >>>> of grape jam. So dellicious.
    >>>
    >>> that smell is so wonderful and like many
    >>> garden smells hard to capture completely in jam.
    >>>
    >>> like the smell of good dirt itself. in the
    >>> middle of winter i want that smell along
    >>> with the green growing smell so i visit the
    >>> friendly greenhouse once in a while and
    >>> browse a bit.
    >>>
    >>> today, while out walking, i was reminded
    >>> that ripening corn has some wonderful smells.

    >>
    >> Such wonderful images you evoke!

    >
    > thanks, sometimes i get the
    > words in the right order (like
    > a shakespearean monkey on crack
    > *snicker*).
    >
    > i went out today and examined
    > the brain's underside to see if
    > enough of the remaining grapes
    > were going ripen all at once to
    > make a small batch. it looks
    > good for Thursday if they are
    > still there. i need some smaller
    > jars to give away as i realized
    > i was not spreading the love
    > around enough using 18oz jars
    > (i thought those were 12-14oz!
    > Doh!).


    You're a generous gifter, nonetheless...


    >>>> We did have Italian plum trees on our property and would make
    >>>> plum jam each year. Also delicious.
    >>>
    >>> i'll bet. what is the difference between
    >>> Italian plums and the purple plums you'd see at the store (or
    >>> those turned into prunes)?

    >>
    >> The Italian plus are also dark purple, but they are a bit smaller
    >> and the flesh is more dense with a stronger plum flavor and a bit
    >> less liquid.
    >>
    >> I made jam once from plus you'd buy at the market. It paled by
    >> comparison.

    >
    > ok, thanks for description,


    You're welcome.

    --

    ~~ If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. ~~

    ~~ A mind is a terrible thing to lose. ~~

    ************************************************** ********

    Wayne Boatwright


  12. #12
    Mimi Guest

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    Hun Bun and meself picked 5 gallons of wild mustang grapes in July.
    They are in the freezer...I am working at home for almost the entire
    month of September and...haven't made a single batch of jam or jelly.
    Finally got the book shelves Hun Bun has been promising me for ages.
    *Three* of the nine (really eight*) shelves are purely canning/
    preserving books. *The bottom shelf belongs to the ferrets...

    Not going to count the big batch of pear-apple butter spiked with
    cinnamon I made for our adopted son that visited last week. He scored
    four pints, I kept two pints. Should keep him for a little while.

    Hmmm...plum sounds good...got some of those in the freezer too--
    locally grown, picked them with a friend in June, 75 a pound. Maybe
    a batch with a vanilla bean??? I'll have to look for the book that
    one was in...

    I'd best get something done this weekend. As soon as I get past my
    two-year "assessment". It's sort of like a test but not really, just
    have to do it to make the regulators happy...that is Wednesday...get
    to spend (I mean waste) as whole day in Houston--trying to remember
    what I 'learnt' two years ago when I was in school.

    Keep Smiling--Happy Day...


  13. #13
    George Shirley Guest

    Default Re: concord grape jam hurrah

    On 9/13/2010 9:49 PM, Mimi wrote:
    > Hun Bun and meself picked 5 gallons of wild mustang grapes in July.
    > They are in the freezer...I am working at home for almost the entire
    > month of September and...haven't made a single batch of jam or jelly.
    > Finally got the book shelves Hun Bun has been promising me for ages.
    > *Three* of the nine (really eight*) shelves are purely canning/
    > preserving books. *The bottom shelf belongs to the ferrets...
    >
    > Not going to count the big batch of pear-apple butter spiked with
    > cinnamon I made for our adopted son that visited last week. He scored
    > four pints, I kept two pints. Should keep him for a little while.
    >
    > Hmmm...plum sounds good...got some of those in the freezer too--
    > locally grown, picked them with a friend in June, 75 a pound. Maybe
    > a batch with a vanilla bean??? I'll have to look for the book that
    > one was in...
    >
    > I'd best get something done this weekend. As soon as I get past my
    > two-year "assessment". It's sort of like a test but not really, just
    > have to do it to make the regulators happy...that is Wednesday...get
    > to spend (I mean waste) as whole day in Houston--trying to remember
    > what I 'learnt' two years ago when I was in school.
    >
    > Keep Smiling--Happy Day...
    >


    What do you do for a living Mimi, curious minds and all that?

    All the jamming and jelling sounds good too. We've planted our fall
    garden already, green beans, cauliflower, sweet peas, broccoli, Tokyo
    Cross turnips, swiss chard goes in early next month. I don't know where
    we will put the harvest, the big freezer is still full from the
    spring/summer garden and we're still eating chard from last fall.

  14. #14
    Mimi Guest

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    <snip> What do you do for a living Mimi, curious minds and all that?
    <snip>

    I work for a financial services firm--I wear a couple of hats.
    Technically, I have all the licenses necessary to be a financial
    advisor but, I still have 'training wheels' on. I also hold two other
    titles: director of public relations and registered assistant.

    Spent today baking bread and working. Multi-tasking is *great*. A
    large loaf of spelt bread for us and challah for a lunch I help to
    cater at a local women's training center.

    : - ]


  15. #15
    George Shirley Guest

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    On 9/16/2010 10:30 PM, Mimi wrote:
    > <snip> What do you do for a living Mimi, curious minds and all that?
    > <snip>
    >
    > I work for a financial services firm--I wear a couple of hats.
    > Technically, I have all the licenses necessary to be a financial
    > advisor but, I still have 'training wheels' on. I also hold two other
    > titles: director of public relations and registered assistant.
    >
    > Spent today baking bread and working. Multi-tasking is *great*. A
    > large loaf of spelt bread for us and challah for a lunch I help to
    > cater at a local women's training center.
    >
    > : - ]
    >

    Our daughter-in-law became a licensed realtor last year and is now
    working on getting a ticket to teach realty to folks. She also works
    from home and is doing quite well for herself in the Houston area. All
    that while looking after our son and two half-grown kids. I am in awe of
    all the women entrepreneurs in the world.

    That was one of the joys of my job as a safety consultant, I worked from
    home, clean the house, cook some dinner, work in the garden, do some
    technical writing, write a magazine article or two, visit a couple of
    clients, back to the house. Even though I call myself retired I still do
    technical writing, with computers and email it is the easiest job in the
    world.

    We're still looking at houses over in your area of Texas and, by next
    June we hope, we will be buying one somewhere in that area. My lovely
    wife has decided to "finally" retire from teaching art to elementary
    students.

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