Thread: Bread prices redux

On 9/28/2011 2:15 PM, George Shirley wrote:
> Went to the used bread store this morning, same bread that was #$3.39 a
> loaf at Kroger was $1.39 a loaf there. Bought two loaves of Nature's Own
> Honey Seven Grain and then they gave me two more loaves as a bonus.
> That's cut the price down to 69.5 cents per loaf. Guess where I'm buying
> bread from now on and the place is only about three blocks from the
> house on the main drag in our town.


I just Googled and we have an Orowheat outlet about 6 miles away.
Good thought. Their bread is not bad at all and I love their English
muffins.

Funny, when they first started making them they cost much less than
Thomas's. Now the latter is on sale most of the time for 2/$5 and
the Orowheat are $3.49 a pkg. Probably worth the trip if I have freezer
space.

gloria p

George Shirley wrote:
> Went to the used bread store this morning, same bread that was #$3.39 a
> loaf at Kroger was $1.39 a loaf there. Bought two loaves of Nature's Own
> Honey Seven Grain and then they gave me two more loaves as a bonus.
> That's cut the price down to 69.5 cents per loaf. Guess where I'm buying
> bread from now on and the place is only about three blocks from the
> house on the main drag in our town.


The Hostess thrift store here charges almost full price for used bread.
They used to have good deals before Interstate Bakeries went bankrupt
in 2004. When they came back they jacked the prices way up at the
outlet stores. I can get better fresh bread cheaper at Cub Foods and
Aldi. (both are cheaper than Walmart except for the really awful squishy
white bread.)

I can bake a 2 pound loaf of sourdough bread for just a few cents. At
least last time I bought a 25# bag of flour at Sam's it didn't cost
hardly anything -- but that was over a year ago.

-Bob

I bake as much of my own bread as possible--try to do Challah every
Friday, if I am not working, volunteering or traveling--and then
sometimes I will make it ahead of time so I can take it with. I
absolutely, love, adore, crave rye bread but have never really been
able to make a good loaf myself so, I buy it at the outlet store,
$1.59 a loaf. That's about half the price it is at the grocery store.
I've done Spelt with some success, just haven't made it for a while.

outstanding, we often wait for a sale if we are buying bread then freeze, if
its that close i would probably just get it when i wanted it, if you like
bread pudding these stores often have wonderful things for that as well, Lee
"George Shirley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Went to the used bread store this morning, same bread that was #$3.39 a
> loaf at Kroger was $1.39 a loaf there. Bought two loaves of Nature's Own
> Honey Seven Grain and then they gave me two more loaves as a bonus. That's
> cut the price down to 69.5 cents per loaf. Guess where I'm buying bread
> from now on and the place is only about three blocks from the house on the
> main drag in our town.

our thomasas go on sale for a dollar a package evry so often at meijer,
regular are about three dollars, when we had freezer space we stocked up as
we both love english muffins, Lee
"gloria.p" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 9/28/2011 2:15 PM, George Shirley wrote:
>> Went to the used bread store this morning, same bread that was #$3.39 a
>> loaf at Kroger was $1.39 a loaf there. Bought two loaves of Nature's Own
>> Honey Seven Grain and then they gave me two more loaves as a bonus.
>> That's cut the price down to 69.5 cents per loaf. Guess where I'm buying
>> bread from now on and the place is only about three blocks from the
>> house on the main drag in our town.
>
>
> I just Googled and we have an Orowheat outlet about 6 miles away.
> Good thought. Their bread is not bad at all and I love their English
> muffins.
>
> Funny, when they first started making them they cost much less than
> Thomas's. Now the latter is on sale most of the time for 2/$5 and
> the Orowheat are $3.49 a pkg. Probably worth the trip if I have freezer
> space.
>
> gloria p

"Storrmmee" <[email protected]> wrote:
> our thomasas go on sale for a dollar a package evry so often at meijer,
> regular are about three dollars, when we had freezer space we stocked up as
> we both love english muffins, Lee
> "gloria.p" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:j6098v$ouv$1@dont-[email protected]..
>> On 9/28/2011 2:15 PM, George Shirley wrote:
>>> Went to the used bread store this morning, same bread that was #$3.39 a
>>> loaf at Kroger was $1.39 a loaf there. Bought two loaves of Nature's Own
>>> Honey Seven Grain and then they gave me two more loaves as a bonus.
>>> That's cut the price down to 69.5 cents per loaf. Guess where I'm buying
>>> bread from now on and the place is only about three blocks from the
>>> house on the main drag in our town.
>>
>>
>> I just Googled and we have an Orowheat outlet about 6 miles away.
>> Good thought. Their bread is not bad at all and I love their English
>> muffins.
>>
>> Funny, when they first started making them they cost much less than
>> Thomas's. Now the latter is on sale most of the time for 2/$5 and
>> the Orowheat are $3.49 a pkg. Probably worth the trip if I have freezer
>> space.
>>
>> gloria p

Hmmm...

A food preserving forum talking about "buying" and freezing bread?
Do we not make our own bread? But make our own Jams and Juices?

Why not just buy a fifty pound container of wheat berries? Wheat berries
in containers will last for YEARS. Get a grinder and over time it will pay
for itself and Really have some of the best tasting bread ever at a lower
cost than those stale past due date bread discount stores.

--
Nad

the thing i appreciate about this group is that the majority of the regular
participants are supportive of other participants, regardless of where on
the preserving bell curve they land, from beginner, to expert, jams, breads,
bulk cooking all count, and are all lauded as valid to saving money,
perfecting a craft and generally eating better,

Lee,
"Nad" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Storrmmee" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> our thomasas go on sale for a dollar a package evry so often at meijer,
>> regular are about three dollars, when we had freezer space we stocked up
>> as
>> we both love english muffins, Lee
>> "gloria.p" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:j6098v$ouv$[email protected]..
>>> On 9/28/2011 2:15 PM, George Shirley wrote:
>>>> Went to the used bread store this morning, same bread that was #$3.39 a
>>>> loaf at Kroger was $1.39 a loaf there. Bought two loaves of Nature's
>>>> Own
>>>> Honey Seven Grain and then they gave me two more loaves as a bonus.
>>>> That's cut the price down to 69.5 cents per loaf. Guess where I'm
>>>> buying
>>>> bread from now on and the place is only about three blocks from the
>>>> house on the main drag in our town.
>>>
>>>
>>> I just Googled and we have an Orowheat outlet about 6 miles away.
>>> Good thought. Their bread is not bad at all and I love their English
>>> muffins.
>>>
>>> Funny, when they first started making them they cost much less than
>>> Thomas's. Now the latter is on sale most of the time for 2/$5 and
>>> the Orowheat are $3.49 a pkg. Probably worth the trip if I have freezer
>>> space.
>>>
>>> gloria p
>
> Hmmm...
>
> A food preserving forum talking about "buying" and freezing bread?
> Do we not make our own bread? But make our own Jams and Juices?
>
> Why not just buy a fifty pound container of wheat berries? Wheat berries
> in containers will last for YEARS. Get a grinder and over time it will pay
> for itself and Really have some of the best tasting bread ever at a lower
> cost than those stale past due date bread discount stores.
>
> --
> Nad

On 9/29/2011 5:38 AM, Nad wrote:

> A food preserving forum talking about "buying" and freezing bread?
> Do we not make our own bread? But make our own Jams and Juices?
>

I do make a couple of kinds of bread on occasion but haven't gotten into
making sandwich bread regularly. Convenience is the word.

> Why not just buy a fifty pound container of wheat berries? Wheat berries
> in containers will last for YEARS. Get a grinder and over time it will pay
> for itself and Really have some of the best tasting bread ever at a lower
> cost than those stale past due date bread discount stores.
>

Why not just plow up your back yard and grown your own wheat? As Lee
said, there's a continuum and we all find our own place on the curve.

gloria p

"gloria.p" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Why not just plow up your back yard and grown your own wheat? As Lee
> said, there's a continuum and we all find our own place on the curve.
>
> gloria p

Wheat does not grow very well in my state or my soil is not good enough for
wheat. Especially the varieties that make great bread. I have tried, but
the varieties of wheat that does grow well here is ok for animal feed. The
local grain store does sell human food grade wheat from different areas of
the country. The wheat berries are sold in fifty pound containers. It cost
less to grind your own flour and for convenience I use an Automatic Bread
Machine. I make few trips to the market and I save on gas.

I have a small personal hobby farm of twenty acres. Fresh eggs from the hen
house, milk from my own dairy cow and huge vegetable garden. This is why I
have an interest in food preserving. This is my place on the curve.

--
Nad

On 9/29/2011 6:38 AM, Nad wrote:
> "Storrmmee"<[email protected]> wrote:
>> our thomasas go on sale for a dollar a package evry so often at meijer,
>> regular are about three dollars, when we had freezer space we stocked up as
>> we both love english muffins, Lee
>> "gloria.p"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:j6098v$ouv$[email protected]..
>>> On 9/28/2011 2:15 PM, George Shirley wrote:
>>>> Went to the used bread store this morning, same bread that was #$3.39 a
>>>> loaf at Kroger was $1.39 a loaf there. Bought two loaves of Nature's Own
>>>> Honey Seven Grain and then they gave me two more loaves as a bonus.
>>>> That's cut the price down to 69.5 cents per loaf. Guess where I'm buying
>>>> bread from now on and the place is only about three blocks from the
>>>> house on the main drag in our town.
>>>
>>>
>>> I just Googled and we have an Orowheat outlet about 6 miles away.
>>> Good thought. Their bread is not bad at all and I love their English
>>> muffins.
>>>
>>> Funny, when they first started making them they cost much less than
>>> Thomas's. Now the latter is on sale most of the time for 2/$5 and
>>> the Orowheat are $3.49 a pkg. Probably worth the trip if I have freezer
>>> space.
>>>
>>> gloria p
>
> Hmmm...
>
> A food preserving forum talking about "buying" and freezing bread?
> Do we not make our own bread? But make our own Jams and Juices?
>
> Why not just buy a fifty pound container of wheat berries? Wheat berries
> in containers will last for YEARS. Get a grinder and over time it will pay
> for itself and Really have some of the best tasting bread ever at a lower
> cost than those stale past due date bread discount stores.
>
And I do make my own bread on occasion. There are more important things
to do around here than to continuously make bread. Grind my own wheat,
nope, see previous sentence. I preserve what I want to eat that we like
and the descendants like. Bread is to cheap to spend time making for the
little bit that we eat. To each his own.

Oh yeah, freezing things you buy is also food preserving. Like meat,
veggies, bread, desserts etc.

On 9/29/2011 2:39 PM, Nad wrote:
> "gloria.p"<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Why not just plow up your back yard and grown your own wheat? As Lee
>> said, there's a continuum and we all find our own place on the curve.
>>
>> gloria p
>
> Wheat does not grow very well in my state or my soil is not good enough for
> wheat. Especially the varieties that make great bread. I have tried, but
> the varieties of wheat that does grow well here is ok for animal feed. The
> local grain store does sell human food grade wheat from different areas of
> the country. The wheat berries are sold in fifty pound containers. It cost
> less to grind your own flour and for convenience I use an Automatic Bread
> Machine. I make few trips to the market and I save on gas.
>
> I have a small personal hobby farm of twenty acres. Fresh eggs from the hen
> house, milk from my own dairy cow and huge vegetable garden. This is why I
> have an interest in food preserving. This is my place on the curve.
>
Our hobby farm is 75 feet wide and 150 feet long, I think many of the
folks on this newsgroup have even smaller places. We once lived for
years on ten acres and had another ten acres to grow things on. At age
72 that ain't gonna happen again. Each of us should enjoy their own
place on the curve as others have said.

On 9/28/2011 6:42 PM, zxcvbob wrote:
> George Shirley wrote:
>> Went to the used bread store this morning, same bread that was #$3.39
>> a loaf at Kroger was $1.39 a loaf there. Bought two loaves of Nature's
>> Own Honey Seven Grain and then they gave me two more loaves as a
>> bonus. That's cut the price down to 69.5 cents per loaf. Guess where
>> I'm buying bread from now on and the place is only about three blocks
>> from the house on the main drag in our town.
>
>
> The Hostess thrift store here charges almost full price for used bread.
> They used to have good deals before Interstate Bakeries went bankrupt in
> 2004. When they came back they jacked the prices way up at the outlet
> stores. I can get better fresh bread cheaper at Cub Foods and Aldi.
> (both are cheaper than Walmart except for the really awful squishy white
> bread.)
>
> I can bake a 2 pound loaf of sourdough bread for just a few cents. At
> least last time I bought a 25# bag of flour at Sam's it didn't cost
> hardly anything -- but that was over a year ago.
>
> -Bob
See what the price is now Bob. Seems fuel prices and inflation have
driven most food stuffs up about 20 to 30 percent. Even rice, which is
grown here, has nearly doubled in price in the last year. Beef is
selling at record prices, mostly due to the drought in
Texas. So many cattle were sold to avoid drought deaths that the price
went down for a bit but is really up now. Other parts of the US are
either suffering drought or excessive rainfall, all of that affects the
price of the food we buy. The food banks here are seeing more people
showing up looking for food. Welfare rolls are expanding. We are seeing
a rise in employment rates though. We have a new, very large casino
coming on line for construction and one of the local petrochem plants is
getting ready to build a multi-billion dollar expansion. That will help
our local economy and the state's too.

George Shirley <[email protected]> wrote:

> Our hobby farm is 75 feet wide and 150 feet long, I think many of the
> folks on this newsgroup have even smaller places. We once lived for years
> on ten acres and had another ten acres to grow things on. At age 72 that
> ain't gonna happen again. Each of us should enjoy their own place on the
> curve as others have said.

I often wonder... I was born and raised in the city and did not like the
big city and always wanted to live in the country. When I did some teaching
in the local schools I found that many kids born and raised in the country
wanted to move and live in the big city.

Sounds like we swapped lives. I enjoy the country life... I hope you enjoy
yours

--
Nad

On 09/29/2011 08:22 AM, gloria.p wrote:
> On 9/29/2011 5:38 AM, Nad wrote:
>
>> A food preserving forum talking about "buying" and freezing bread?
>> Do we not make our own bread? But make our own Jams and Juices?
>>
>
> I do make a couple of kinds of bread on occasion but haven't gotten into
> making sandwich bread regularly. Convenience is the word.

We make most of our own bread, and I'm honestly not criticizing anyone
who doesn't, but I wanted to say that once you get into the routine of
doing it, it's not every inconvenient, especially if you use tools to
help with the one labor-intensive part, the kneading.

Serene
--
http://www.momfoodproject.com

Serene Vannoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 09/29/2011 08:22 AM, gloria.p wrote:
>> On 9/29/2011 5:38 AM, Nad wrote:
>>
>>> A food preserving forum talking about "buying" and freezing bread?
>>> Do we not make our own bread? But make our own Jams and Juices?
>>>
>>
>> I do make a couple of kinds of bread on occasion but haven't gotten into
>> making sandwich bread regularly. Convenience is the word.
>
> We make most of our own bread, and I'm honestly not criticizing anyone
> who doesn't, but I wanted to say that once you get into the routine of
> doing it, it's not every inconvenient, especially if you use tools to
> help with the one labor-intensive part, the kneading.
>
> Serene

I take it you also have one of those "tools" called the Automatic Bread
Machine that does most if not all of the work?

--
Nad

On 10/01/2011 08:46 AM, Nad wrote:
> Serene Vannoy<[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 09/29/2011 08:22 AM, gloria.p wrote:
>>> On 9/29/2011 5:38 AM, Nad wrote:
>>>
>>>> A food preserving forum talking about "buying" and freezing bread?
>>>> Do we not make our own bread? But make our own Jams and Juices?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I do make a couple of kinds of bread on occasion but haven't gotten into
>>> making sandwich bread regularly. Convenience is the word.
>>
>> We make most of our own bread, and I'm honestly not criticizing anyone
>> who doesn't, but I wanted to say that once you get into the routine of
>> doing it, it's not every inconvenient, especially if you use tools to
>> help with the one labor-intensive part, the kneading.
>>
>> Serene
>
> I take it you also have one of those "tools" called the Automatic Bread
> Machine that does most if not all of the work?

Most (since we don't bake it in the machine; we prefer the texture of
oven-baked bread), yes. We also have a good stand mixer and some
excellent no-knead bread recipes.

Don't be too quick to criticize people who aren't as "pure" as you are;
it make you look like an ass, and it doesn't encourage people to emulate
you, but to avoid you.

Serene

--
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Serene Vannoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Don't be too quick to criticize people who aren't as "pure" as you are;
> it make you look like an ass, and it doesn't encourage people to emulate
> you, but to avoid you.
>
> Serene

People that cannot take criticism or defend their position with reasoning
are weak minded people. Weak minded people often use profanity instead of
reasoning to express their views... Example: "You are <- enter body part ->
if you think like this.

Are you that weak minded? Those that use profanity are to be emulated like
yourself are the "Good" people? I will let you have the last word

--
Nad

this is something i am considering atm, made good use of the abm, always
just used a hand mixer but am reading about the benifits of the nicer food
processors. now since i rarely make cakes or things that need a big mixer,
but like the idea of using the bigger mixer or a food processor for the
bread kneading chores i am curious to hear other's opinions, when we get
back into the house i would like to make several kinds of rolls to get ready
to bake and then freeze them. doing this will allow us to cook just what we
want for that meal, which once we decide the meal will allow the bread to
cook whilst the rest is being prepared.

what say all of you who have experience with all three items, if you could
only buy one of the three, which one and why? which would help most to you
for bulk cooking and preserving? Lee
"Serene Vannoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 10/01/2011 08:46 AM, Nad wrote:
>> Serene Vannoy<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On 09/29/2011 08:22 AM, gloria.p wrote:
>>>> On 9/29/2011 5:38 AM, Nad wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A food preserving forum talking about "buying" and freezing bread?
>>>>> Do we not make our own bread? But make our own Jams and Juices?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I do make a couple of kinds of bread on occasion but haven't gotten
>>>> into
>>>> making sandwich bread regularly. Convenience is the word.
>>>
>>> We make most of our own bread, and I'm honestly not criticizing anyone
>>> who doesn't, but I wanted to say that once you get into the routine of
>>> doing it, it's not every inconvenient, especially if you use tools to
>>> help with the one labor-intensive part, the kneading.
>>>
>>> Serene
>>
>> I take it you also have one of those "tools" called the Automatic Bread
>> Machine that does most if not all of the work?
>
> Most (since we don't bake it in the machine; we prefer the texture of
> oven-baked bread), yes. We also have a good stand mixer and some excellent
> no-knead bread recipes.
>
> Don't be too quick to criticize people who aren't as "pure" as you are; it
> make you look like an ass, and it doesn't encourage people to emulate you,
> but to avoid you.
>
> Serene
>
> --
> http://www.momfoodproject.com

"Storrmmee" <[email protected]> wrote:
> this is something i am considering atm, made good use of the abm, always
> just used a hand mixer but am reading about the benifits of the nicer food
> processors. now since i rarely make cakes or things that need a big mixer,
> but like the idea of using the bigger mixer or a food processor for the
> bread kneading chores i am curious to hear other's opinions, when we get
> back into the house i would like to make several kinds of rolls to get ready
> to bake and then freeze them. doing this will allow us to cook just what we
> want for that meal, which once we decide the meal will allow the bread to
> cook whilst the rest is being prepared.
>
> what say all of you who have experience with all three items, if you could
> only buy one of the three, which one and why? which would help most to you
> for bulk cooking and preserving? Lee

My problem with bread making at home is that the long cold winters makes it
difficult for the dough too rise. I also prefer the house temperature to be
no more than 70F and dough rises poorly at that temp. A bread machine has
heating elements in for making dough for roll ands pizzas. I will make
sourdough breads during the summer in which house temperature is ideal for
sourdoughs. I also freeze the doughs for pizzas and for rolls.

I cannot justify owning a large stand mixer, because I will still have to
let the dough rise somewhere it is warm. I do own a nice food processor
with a dough blade and it does a good job for the smaller amounts of dough
during the summer and for candy making. I also use the dough blade to make
corn tortillas. For general mixing, making cookies and other things, I find
the hand mixer works just fine.

My food processor only has a 12 cup capacity which is fine for me. If you
plan on making large amounts of breads a stand mixer may be a very useful.

Excluding the cost of the ABM, mine cost around $150. It cost less than
fifty cents to make a loaf of basic sandwich bread. I also use the bread
machine more often than the food processor or hand mixer. The cleanup with
the bread machine as almost none existent. The food processor has several
parts to clean

But this discussion was well covered the the Cooking newsgroup last week.

--
Nad