Thread: Worcestershire Sauces?

On Oct 10, 10:17*am, Michel Boucher <alsand...@g.mail.com> wrote:
> I'm looking for a substitute to add to marinades as my daughter
> cannot ingest onions or garlic.
>
> Anybody know of a brand that meets that requirement, or even
> better, a recipe?
>
> Yes, I know that bottled Worcestershire sauce ferments for two
> years.
>
> --
>
> If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn t
> help the poor, either we ve got to pretend that Jesus
> was just as selfish as we are, or we ve got to acknowledge
> that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy
> without condition, and then admit that we just don t
> want to do it.
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * Stephen Colbert (via videcormeum)

When I was a kid, a condiment on the table was 'Maggi'. It is
something like soy sauce, but doesn't contain soy. Does it contain
onions and garlic? I don't know. I've googled briefly, but could not
find a list of ingredients. I'm sure the ingredients are on the side
of the bottle. If you can't find it at your supermarket, a Euro-deli
might have it. Maggi makes other stuff, but I'm talking about the
stuff in the bottle.

A Moose in Love <[email protected]> wrote in
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> When I was a kid, a condiment on the table was 'Maggi'. It is
> something like soy sauce, but doesn't contain soy.

I looked through a number of sites and couldn't find a list of
ingredients. That in itself is suspicious.

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help the poor, either we’ve got to pretend that Jesus
was just as selfish as we are, or we’ve got to acknowledge
that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy
without condition, and then admit that we just don’t
want to do it.

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On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 09:17:03 -0500, Michel Boucher
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm looking for a substitute to add to marinades as my daughter
> cannot ingest onions or garlic.
>
> Anybody know of a brand that meets that requirement, or even
> better, a recipe?
>
> Yes, I know that bottled Worcestershire sauce ferments for two
> years.

Have you tried soy sauce or Maggi? It would help if you said what you
wanted to do with it.
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T.S. Eliot

Am 10.10.2011 17:07, schrieb Michel Boucher:
> A Moose in Love <[email protected]> wrote
>
>> When I was a kid, a condiment on the table was 'Maggi'. It is
>> something like soy sauce, but doesn't contain soy.
>
> I looked through a number of sites and couldn't find a list of
> ingredients. That in itself is suspicious.
>
http://www.elmejornido.com/en/maggi/...easoning-sauce

On Oct 10, 9:17*am, Michel Boucher <alsand...@g.mail.com> wrote:
> I'm looking for a substitute to add to marinades as my daughter
> cannot ingest onions or garlic.
>
> Anybody know of a brand that meets that requirement, or even
> better, a recipe?
>
> Yes, I know that bottled Worcestershire sauce ferments for two
> years.
>
> --
>

I have used something in a bottle, called "Allegro," or "Allegra." I
don't know what's in it, but it's a good marinade.

N.

Matthias Czech <[email protected]> wrote in
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> http://www.elmejornido.com/en/maggi/...onings/seasoni
> ng-sauce

Hmmm...contains disodium inosinate and disodium guanylate neither
of which is necessary.

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Disodium inosinate is used as a flavor enhancer, in synergy with
monosodium glutamate (MSG) to provide the umami taste. It is
often added to foods in conjunction with disodium guanylate; the
combination is known as disodium 5'-ribonucleotides.

As a relatively expensive product, disodium inosinate is usually
not used independently of glutamic acid; if disodium inosinate is
present in a list of ingredients, but MSG does not appear to be,
it is possible that glutamic acid is provided as part of another
ingredient or is naturally occurring in another ingredient like
tomatoes, Parmesan cheese or yeast extract.
[edit]Origin

Disodium inosinate is generally produced from meat or from fish.
Alternately, it may be produced from tapioca starch without any
animal products involved in the production. Therefore, disodium
inosinate may not be suitable for vegans and vegetarians, and in
most cases not suitable for Jews and Muslims, depending on the
origin of the product. Only the producer can provide information
on the origin.

Conclusion: origin dubious at best

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Disodium guanylate, also known as sodium 5'-guanylate and
disodium 5'-guanylate, is a natural disodium salt of the flavor
enhancer guanosine monophosphate (GMP). Disodium guanylate is a
food additive with the E number E627.[1] It is commonly used in
conjunction with glutamic acid (monosodium glutamate, MSG).

As it is a fairly expensive additive, it is not used
independently of glutamic acid; if disodium guanylate is present
in a list of ingredients but MSG does not appear to be, it is
likely that glutamic acid is provided as part of another
ingredient such as a processed soy protein complex. It is often
added to foods in conjunction with disodium inosinate; the
combination is known as disodium 5'-ribonucleotides.

Disodium guanylate is produced from dried fish or dried seaweed
and is often added to instant noodles, potato chips and other
snacks, savoury rice, tinned vegetables, cured meats, and
packaged soup.

Conclusion: Maggi sauce needs two flavour enhancers??? I'm
betting the original sauce had no such additives and yet was good
enough to find a place in the food market.

On the plus side, no MSG, on the down side, who knows what this
crap does...

--

If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn’t
help the poor, either we’ve got to pretend that Jesus
was just as selfish as we are, or we’ve got to acknowledge
that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy
without condition, and then admit that we just don’t
want to do it.

Stephen Colbert (via videcormeum)

Nancy2 <[email protected]> wrote in
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> I have used something in a bottle, called "Allegro," or
> "Allegra." I don't know what's in it, but it's a good
> marinade.

Allegro. Most of these have one or the other onion or garlic and
some even have sulfites added (to preserve colour!).

--

If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn’t
help the poor, either we’ve got to pretend that Jesus
was just as selfish as we are, or we’ve got to acknowledge
that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy
without condition, and then admit that we just don’t
want to do it.

Stephen Colbert (via videcormeum)

On Oct 10, 7:17*am, Michel Boucher <alsand...@g.mail.com> wrote:
> I'm looking for a substitute to add to marinades as my daughter
> cannot ingest onions or garlic.
>
> Anybody know of a brand that meets that requirement, or even
> better, a recipe?
>
> Yes, I know that bottled Worcestershire sauce ferments for two
> years.

Wikip suggests two Japanese sauces were based on Worcestershire,
tonkatsu sauce and usuta sosu. Both of these should be available free
of onion and garlic. Try an Asian grocery.

spamtrap1888 <[email protected]> wrote in
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s.com:

> Wikip suggests two Japanese sauces were based on
> Worcestershire, tonkatsu sauce and usuta sosu. Both of these
> should be available free of onion and garlic. Try an Asian
> grocery.

Katsu sauce is made with Worcestershire sauce and garlic (plus
ketchup, sake, mirin and other ingredients).

Usuta sosu is Japanese for Worcestershire sauce.

--

If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn’t
help the poor, either we’ve got to pretend that Jesus
was just as selfish as we are, or we’ve got to acknowledge
that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy
without condition, and then admit that we just don’t
want to do it.

Stephen Colbert (via videcormeum)

On Oct 10, 9:40*am, Michel Boucher <alsand...@g.mail.com> wrote:
> spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1...@gmail.com> wrote innews:[email protected]
> s.com:
>
> > Wikip suggests two Japanese sauces were based on
> > Worcestershire, tonkatsu sauce and usuta sosu. Both of these
> > should be available free of onion and garlic. Try an Asian
> > grocery.
>
> Katsu sauce is made with Worcestershire sauce and garlic (plus
> ketchup, sake, mirin and other ingredients).
>
> Usuta sosu is Japanese for Worcestershire sauce.
>

They are like Worcestershire sauce but typically do not contain onions
or garlic.

Wasn't that what you asked for?

Boucher is proof that a little learning is a dangerous thing.

spamtrap1888 <[email protected]> wrote in
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..com:

> They are like Worcestershire sauce but typically do not
> contain onions or garlic.

I can't find a list of ingredients so it's impossible to say if it
fits. They could have MSG or any other thing my daughter is
sensitive to.

> Wasn't that what you asked for?

Maybe, maybe not. I need more information and it hard to come by.

> Boucher is proof that a little learning is a dangerous thing.

What the **** does that mean? Were you feeling hard done by,
perhaps?

--

If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn’t
help the poor, either we’ve got to pretend that Jesus
was just as selfish as we are, or we’ve got to acknowledge
that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy
without condition, and then admit that we just don’t
want to do it.

Stephen Colbert (via videcormeum)

What are you going to marinate anyways? Well, here are some things that
I use whenever I'm short of things like oyster sauce or garlics or
onions:

any of the combination
soy sauce and vinegar
soy sauce, vinegar and sugar
beer and soy sauce
plain salt and pepper




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chizcurlz

spamtrap1888 <[email protected]> wrote in news:6ddbec5a-94d0-
[email protected]:

> Try an Asian grocery.

I have a surfeit of these in the neighbourhood.

One thing I did come across, but no list of ingredients, is
something called Henderson's Relish which is apparently suitable
for vegetarians and vegans. There is no list of ingredients on the
website, however.

--

If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn’t
help the poor, either we’ve got to pretend that Jesus
was just as selfish as we are, or we’ve got to acknowledge
that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy
without condition, and then admit that we just don’t
want to do it.

Stephen Colbert (via videcormeum)

spamtrap1888 <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]
s.com:

> Wikip suggests two Japanese sauces were based on
> Worcestershire, tonkatsu sauce and usuta sosu. Both of these
> should be available free of onion and garlic. Try an Asian
> grocery.

Bull-Dog brand tonkatsu sauce contains onion. So much for that
theory.

"Bulldog is a very popular brand throughout Japan, and we are
proud to offer this product. It's wonderful with not only fried
pork but all kinds of dishes, including a dip for fruits and
vegetables. Ingredients: Water, Sugar, High Fructose Corn Syrup,
Distilled Vinegar, Apple, Salt, Tomato, Hydrolyzed Vegetable
Protein (Contains Soy), Cornstarch, Prune, Carrot, Spices,
Caramel Coloring, Onion."

http://importfood.com/sabd1001.html

Golden Mountain seasoning sauce is fairly promising -

Ingredients: Soya bean sauce, water, sugar, salt, food enhancer
0.02%.

Not sure about that food enhancer...probably MSG.

http://importfood.com/sagm0705.html

--

If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn’t
help the poor, either we’ve got to pretend that Jesus
was just as selfish as we are, or we’ve got to acknowledge
that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy
without condition, and then admit that we just don’t
want to do it.

Stephen Colbert (via videcormeum)

On Oct 10, 10:10*am, Michel Boucher <alsand...@g.mail.com> wrote:
> spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1...@gmail.com> wrote in news:6ddbec5a-94d0-
> 43f6-bad3-831cd80f2...@l30g2000pro.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Try an Asian grocery.
>
> I have a surfeit of these in the neighbourhood.
>
> One thing I did come across, but no list of ingredients, is
> something called Henderson's Relish which is apparently suitable
> for vegetarians and vegans. *There is no list of ingredients on the
> website, however.
>

Get off your ass, go to the store, and read some labels.

On 10/10/2011 4:17 AM, Michel Boucher wrote:
> I'm looking for a substitute to add to marinades as my daughter
> cannot ingest onions or garlic.
>
> Anybody know of a brand that meets that requirement, or even
> better, a recipe?
>
> Yes, I know that bottled Worcestershire sauce ferments for two
> years.
>

I'd use a mixture of soy sauce, mustard, and vinegar.

"Michel Boucher" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] ...
> I'm looking for a substitute to add to marinades as my daughter
> cannot ingest onions or garlic.


why don't you just look for some of the marinade recipes you can find on the
web, and delete any onion or garlic? Or just use the ones that don't call
for any onion or garlic? I guess I don't understand the question - not all
marinades call for Worcestershire sauce.

On Oct 10, 10:08*am, Michel Boucher <alsand...@g.mail.com> wrote:
> spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1...@gmail.com> wrote innews:[email protected]
> .com:

> > Boucher is proof that a little learning is a dangerous thing.
>
> What the **** does that mean? *Were you feeling hard done by,
> perhaps?
>

It means that you appear to have asked a question with the purpose of
nitpicking peoples replies, as that's all you've done so far.

No "thanks for the suggestion, it merits a look-see", just "this idea
sucks because I can't find information for it online".

spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1888[email protected]> wrote in
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..com:

>> One thing I did come across, but no list of ingredients, is
>> something called Henderson's Relish which is apparently
>> suitable for vegetarians and vegans. ÿThere is no list of
>> ingredients on the website, however.
>
> Get off your ass, go to the store, and read some labels.

The stores are closed today, you dimwit. It's Thanksgiving!

--

If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn’t
help the poor, either we’ve got to pretend that Jesus
was just as selfish as we are, or we’ve got to acknowledge
that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy
without condition, and then admit that we just don’t
want to do it.

Stephen Colbert (via videcormeum)