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Thread: Worcestershire Sauces?

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    Michel Boucher Guest

    Default Worcestershire Sauces?

    I'm looking for a substitute to add to marinades as my daughter
    cannot ingest onions or garlic.

    Anybody know of a brand that meets that requirement, or even
    better, a recipe?

    Yes, I know that bottled Worcestershire sauce ferments for two
    years.

    --

    If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn’t
    help the poor, either we’ve got to pretend that Jesus
    was just as selfish as we are, or we’ve got to acknowledge
    that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy
    without condition, and then admit that we just don’t
    want to do it.

    Stephen Colbert (via videcormeum)

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    A Moose in Love Guest

    Default Re: Worcestershire Sauces?

    On Oct 10, 10:17*am, Michel Boucher <alsand...@g.mail.com> wrote:
    > I'm looking for a substitute to add to marinades as my daughter
    > cannot ingest onions or garlic.
    >
    > Anybody know of a brand that meets that requirement, or even
    > better, a recipe?
    >
    > Yes, I know that bottled Worcestershire sauce ferments for two
    > years.
    >
    > --
    >
    > If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn t
    > help the poor, either we ve got to pretend that Jesus
    > was just as selfish as we are, or we ve got to acknowledge
    > that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy
    > without condition, and then admit that we just don t
    > want to do it.
    >
    > * * * * * * * * * * * * Stephen Colbert (via videcormeum)


    When I was a kid, a condiment on the table was 'Maggi'. It is
    something like soy sauce, but doesn't contain soy. Does it contain
    onions and garlic? I don't know. I've googled briefly, but could not
    find a list of ingredients. I'm sure the ingredients are on the side
    of the bottle. If you can't find it at your supermarket, a Euro-deli
    might have it. Maggi makes other stuff, but I'm talking about the
    stuff in the bottle.

  3. #3
    Michel Boucher Guest

    Default Re: Worcestershire Sauces?

    A Moose in Love <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:da9f6ae6-3995-49e1-a853-
    [email protected]:

    > When I was a kid, a condiment on the table was 'Maggi'. It is
    > something like soy sauce, but doesn't contain soy.


    I looked through a number of sites and couldn't find a list of
    ingredients. That in itself is suspicious.

    --

    If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn’t
    help the poor, either we’ve got to pretend that Jesus
    was just as selfish as we are, or we’ve got to acknowledge
    that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy
    without condition, and then admit that we just don’t
    want to do it.

    Stephen Colbert (via videcormeum)

  4. #4
    sf Guest

    Default Re: Worcestershire Sauces?

    On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 09:17:03 -0500, Michel Boucher
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > I'm looking for a substitute to add to marinades as my daughter
    > cannot ingest onions or garlic.
    >
    > Anybody know of a brand that meets that requirement, or even
    > better, a recipe?
    >
    > Yes, I know that bottled Worcestershire sauce ferments for two
    > years.


    Have you tried soy sauce or Maggi? It would help if you said what you
    wanted to do with it.
    --

    Never commit yourself to a cheese without having first examined it.
    T.S. Eliot

  5. #5
    Matthias Czech Guest

    Default Re: Worcestershire Sauces?

    Am 10.10.2011 17:07, schrieb Michel Boucher:
    > A Moose in Love <[email protected]> wrote
    >
    >> When I was a kid, a condiment on the table was 'Maggi'. It is
    >> something like soy sauce, but doesn't contain soy.

    >
    > I looked through a number of sites and couldn't find a list of
    > ingredients. That in itself is suspicious.
    >

    http://www.elmejornido.com/en/maggi/...easoning-sauce


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    Nancy2 Guest

    Default Re: Worcestershire Sauces?

    On Oct 10, 9:17*am, Michel Boucher <alsand...@g.mail.com> wrote:
    > I'm looking for a substitute to add to marinades as my daughter
    > cannot ingest onions or garlic.
    >
    > Anybody know of a brand that meets that requirement, or even
    > better, a recipe?
    >
    > Yes, I know that bottled Worcestershire sauce ferments for two
    > years.
    >
    > --
    >


    I have used something in a bottle, called "Allegro," or "Allegra." I
    don't know what's in it, but it's a good marinade.

    N.

  7. #7
    Michel Boucher Guest

    Default Re: Worcestershire Sauces?

    Matthias Czech <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > http://www.elmejornido.com/en/maggi/...onings/seasoni
    > ng-sauce


    Hmmm...contains disodium inosinate and disodium guanylate neither
    of which is necessary.

    --------------

    Disodium inosinate is used as a flavor enhancer, in synergy with
    monosodium glutamate (MSG) to provide the umami taste. It is
    often added to foods in conjunction with disodium guanylate; the
    combination is known as disodium 5'-ribonucleotides.

    As a relatively expensive product, disodium inosinate is usually
    not used independently of glutamic acid; if disodium inosinate is
    present in a list of ingredients, but MSG does not appear to be,
    it is possible that glutamic acid is provided as part of another
    ingredient or is naturally occurring in another ingredient like
    tomatoes, Parmesan cheese or yeast extract.
    [edit]Origin

    Disodium inosinate is generally produced from meat or from fish.
    Alternately, it may be produced from tapioca starch without any
    animal products involved in the production. Therefore, disodium
    inosinate may not be suitable for vegans and vegetarians, and in
    most cases not suitable for Jews and Muslims, depending on the
    origin of the product. Only the producer can provide information
    on the origin.

    Conclusion: origin dubious at best

    --------------

    Disodium guanylate, also known as sodium 5'-guanylate and
    disodium 5'-guanylate, is a natural disodium salt of the flavor
    enhancer guanosine monophosphate (GMP). Disodium guanylate is a
    food additive with the E number E627.[1] It is commonly used in
    conjunction with glutamic acid (monosodium glutamate, MSG).

    As it is a fairly expensive additive, it is not used
    independently of glutamic acid; if disodium guanylate is present
    in a list of ingredients but MSG does not appear to be, it is
    likely that glutamic acid is provided as part of another
    ingredient such as a processed soy protein complex. It is often
    added to foods in conjunction with disodium inosinate; the
    combination is known as disodium 5'-ribonucleotides.

    Disodium guanylate is produced from dried fish or dried seaweed
    and is often added to instant noodles, potato chips and other
    snacks, savoury rice, tinned vegetables, cured meats, and
    packaged soup.

    Conclusion: Maggi sauce needs two flavour enhancers??? I'm
    betting the original sauce had no such additives and yet was good
    enough to find a place in the food market.

    On the plus side, no MSG, on the down side, who knows what this
    crap does...

    --

    If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn’t
    help the poor, either we’ve got to pretend that Jesus
    was just as selfish as we are, or we’ve got to acknowledge
    that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy
    without condition, and then admit that we just don’t
    want to do it.

    Stephen Colbert (via videcormeum)

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    Michel Boucher Guest

    Default Re: Worcestershire Sauces?

    Nancy2 <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]
    s.com:

    > I have used something in a bottle, called "Allegro," or
    > "Allegra." I don't know what's in it, but it's a good
    > marinade.


    Allegro. Most of these have one or the other onion or garlic and
    some even have sulfites added (to preserve colour!).

    --

    If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn’t
    help the poor, either we’ve got to pretend that Jesus
    was just as selfish as we are, or we’ve got to acknowledge
    that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy
    without condition, and then admit that we just don’t
    want to do it.

    Stephen Colbert (via videcormeum)

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    spamtrap1888 Guest

    Default Re: Worcestershire Sauces?

    On Oct 10, 7:17*am, Michel Boucher <alsand...@g.mail.com> wrote:
    > I'm looking for a substitute to add to marinades as my daughter
    > cannot ingest onions or garlic.
    >
    > Anybody know of a brand that meets that requirement, or even
    > better, a recipe?
    >
    > Yes, I know that bottled Worcestershire sauce ferments for two
    > years.


    Wikip suggests two Japanese sauces were based on Worcestershire,
    tonkatsu sauce and usuta sosu. Both of these should be available free
    of onion and garlic. Try an Asian grocery.

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    Michel Boucher Guest

    Default Re: Worcestershire Sauces?

    spamtrap1888 <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]
    s.com:

    > Wikip suggests two Japanese sauces were based on
    > Worcestershire, tonkatsu sauce and usuta sosu. Both of these
    > should be available free of onion and garlic. Try an Asian
    > grocery.


    Katsu sauce is made with Worcestershire sauce and garlic (plus
    ketchup, sake, mirin and other ingredients).

    Usuta sosu is Japanese for Worcestershire sauce.

    --

    If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn’t
    help the poor, either we’ve got to pretend that Jesus
    was just as selfish as we are, or we’ve got to acknowledge
    that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy
    without condition, and then admit that we just don’t
    want to do it.

    Stephen Colbert (via videcormeum)

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    spamtrap1888 Guest

    Default Re: Worcestershire Sauces?

    On Oct 10, 9:40*am, Michel Boucher <alsand...@g.mail.com> wrote:
    > spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1...@gmail.com> wrote innews:[email protected]
    > s.com:
    >
    > > Wikip suggests two Japanese sauces were based on
    > > Worcestershire, tonkatsu sauce and usuta sosu. Both of these
    > > should be available free of onion and garlic. Try an Asian
    > > grocery.

    >
    > Katsu sauce is made with Worcestershire sauce and garlic (plus
    > ketchup, sake, mirin and other ingredients).
    >
    > Usuta sosu is Japanese for Worcestershire sauce.
    >


    They are like Worcestershire sauce but typically do not contain onions
    or garlic.

    Wasn't that what you asked for?

    Boucher is proof that a little learning is a dangerous thing.

  12. #12
    Michel Boucher Guest

    Default Re: Worcestershire Sauces?

    spamtrap1888 <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]
    ..com:

    > They are like Worcestershire sauce but typically do not
    > contain onions or garlic.


    I can't find a list of ingredients so it's impossible to say if it
    fits. They could have MSG or any other thing my daughter is
    sensitive to.

    > Wasn't that what you asked for?


    Maybe, maybe not. I need more information and it hard to come by.

    > Boucher is proof that a little learning is a dangerous thing.


    What the **** does that mean? Were you feeling hard done by,
    perhaps?

    --

    If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn’t
    help the poor, either we’ve got to pretend that Jesus
    was just as selfish as we are, or we’ve got to acknowledge
    that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy
    without condition, and then admit that we just don’t
    want to do it.

    Stephen Colbert (via videcormeum)

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    chizcurlz Guest

    Default Re: Worcestershire Sauces?


    What are you going to marinate anyways? Well, here are some things that
    I use whenever I'm short of things like oyster sauce or garlics or
    onions:

    any of the combination
    soy sauce and vinegar
    soy sauce, vinegar and sugar
    beer and soy sauce
    plain salt and pepper




    --
    chizcurlz

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    Michel Boucher Guest

    Default Re: Worcestershire Sauces?

    spamtrap1888 <[email protected]> wrote in news:6ddbec5a-94d0-
    [email protected]:

    > Try an Asian grocery.


    I have a surfeit of these in the neighbourhood.

    One thing I did come across, but no list of ingredients, is
    something called Henderson's Relish which is apparently suitable
    for vegetarians and vegans. There is no list of ingredients on the
    website, however.

    --

    If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn’t
    help the poor, either we’ve got to pretend that Jesus
    was just as selfish as we are, or we’ve got to acknowledge
    that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy
    without condition, and then admit that we just don’t
    want to do it.

    Stephen Colbert (via videcormeum)

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    Michel Boucher Guest

    Default Re: Worcestershire Sauces?

    spamtrap1888 <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]
    s.com:

    > Wikip suggests two Japanese sauces were based on
    > Worcestershire, tonkatsu sauce and usuta sosu. Both of these
    > should be available free of onion and garlic. Try an Asian
    > grocery.


    Bull-Dog brand tonkatsu sauce contains onion. So much for that
    theory.

    "Bulldog is a very popular brand throughout Japan, and we are
    proud to offer this product. It's wonderful with not only fried
    pork but all kinds of dishes, including a dip for fruits and
    vegetables. Ingredients: Water, Sugar, High Fructose Corn Syrup,
    Distilled Vinegar, Apple, Salt, Tomato, Hydrolyzed Vegetable
    Protein (Contains Soy), Cornstarch, Prune, Carrot, Spices,
    Caramel Coloring, Onion."

    http://importfood.com/sabd1001.html

    Golden Mountain seasoning sauce is fairly promising -

    Ingredients: Soya bean sauce, water, sugar, salt, food enhancer
    0.02%.

    Not sure about that food enhancer...probably MSG.

    http://importfood.com/sagm0705.html

    --

    If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn’t
    help the poor, either we’ve got to pretend that Jesus
    was just as selfish as we are, or we’ve got to acknowledge
    that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy
    without condition, and then admit that we just don’t
    want to do it.

    Stephen Colbert (via videcormeum)

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    spamtrap1888 Guest

    Default Re: Worcestershire Sauces?

    On Oct 10, 10:10*am, Michel Boucher <alsand...@g.mail.com> wrote:
    > spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1...@gmail.com> wrote in news:6ddbec5a-94d0-
    > 43f6-bad3-831cd80f2...@l30g2000pro.googlegroups.com:
    >
    > > Try an Asian grocery.

    >
    > I have a surfeit of these in the neighbourhood.
    >
    > One thing I did come across, but no list of ingredients, is
    > something called Henderson's Relish which is apparently suitable
    > for vegetarians and vegans. *There is no list of ingredients on the
    > website, however.
    >


    Get off your ass, go to the store, and read some labels.

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    dsi1 Guest

    Default Re: Worcestershire Sauces?

    On 10/10/2011 4:17 AM, Michel Boucher wrote:
    > I'm looking for a substitute to add to marinades as my daughter
    > cannot ingest onions or garlic.
    >
    > Anybody know of a brand that meets that requirement, or even
    > better, a recipe?
    >
    > Yes, I know that bottled Worcestershire sauce ferments for two
    > years.
    >


    I'd use a mixture of soy sauce, mustard, and vinegar.

  18. #18
    Pico Rico Guest

    Default Re: Worcestershire Sauces?


    "Michel Boucher" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected] ...
    > I'm looking for a substitute to add to marinades as my daughter
    > cannot ingest onions or garlic.



    why don't you just look for some of the marinade recipes you can find on the
    web, and delete any onion or garlic? Or just use the ones that don't call
    for any onion or garlic? I guess I don't understand the question - not all
    marinades call for Worcestershire sauce.



  19. #19
    tutall Guest

    Default Re: Worcestershire Sauces?

    On Oct 10, 10:08*am, Michel Boucher <alsand...@g.mail.com> wrote:
    > spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1...@gmail.com> wrote innews:[email protected]
    > .com:


    > > Boucher is proof that a little learning is a dangerous thing.

    >
    > What the **** does that mean? *Were you feeling hard done by,
    > perhaps?
    >


    It means that you appear to have asked a question with the purpose of
    nitpicking peoples replies, as that's all you've done so far.

    No "thanks for the suggestion, it merits a look-see", just "this idea
    sucks because I can't find information for it online".




  20. #20
    Michel Boucher Guest

    Default Re: Worcestershire Sauces?

    spamtrap1888 <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]
    ..com:

    >> One thing I did come across, but no list of ingredients, is
    >> something called Henderson's Relish which is apparently
    >> suitable for vegetarians and vegans. ˙There is no list of
    >> ingredients on the website, however.

    >
    > Get off your ass, go to the store, and read some labels.


    The stores are closed today, you dimwit. It's Thanksgiving!

    --

    If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn’t
    help the poor, either we’ve got to pretend that Jesus
    was just as selfish as we are, or we’ve got to acknowledge
    that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy
    without condition, and then admit that we just don’t
    want to do it.

    Stephen Colbert (via videcormeum)

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