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Thread: Wikipedia charging?

  1. #1
    Stu Guest

    Default Wikipedia charging?


    I got an email from an acquaintance with something strange info in it,
    seems Wikipedia may be in the process to start charging for their
    service.
    Isn't Wikipedia the free encyclopedia, with its content from users
    from all over the internet, this content given freely to help build
    Wikipedia's site and search engine position? Has anyone heard this
    rumor as well, just wondering if it could be true or just that a
    rumor? This person is quite reputable and accurate in the rumor
    department.

  2. #2
    sf Guest

    Default Re: Wikipedia charging?

    On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 22:58:39 -0600, Stu <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    > I got an email from an acquaintance with something strange info in it,
    > seems Wikipedia may be in the process to start charging for their
    > service.
    > Isn't Wikipedia the free encyclopedia, with its content from users
    > from all over the internet, this content given freely to help build
    > Wikipedia's site and search engine position? Has anyone heard this
    > rumor as well, just wondering if it could be true or just that a
    > rumor? This person is quite reputable and accurate in the rumor
    > department.


    Anyone who asks Google a question and gets Wikipedia as a hit is aware
    of what's going on. It's at the top of every front page.
    <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia> Read the plea. They aren't
    charging, they aren't even turning shareware, they're just asking for
    donations... like a lot of freeware does. Use it the same way you
    always have - or not.

    --

    Never trust a dog to watch your food.

  3. #3
    news Guest

    Default Re: Wikipedia charging?


    "Stu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    >
    > I got an email from an acquaintance with something strange info in it,
    > seems Wikipedia may be in the process to start charging for their
    > service.
    > Isn't Wikipedia the free encyclopedia, with its content from users
    > from all over the internet, this content given freely to help build
    > Wikipedia's site and search engine position? Has anyone heard this
    > rumor as well, just wondering if it could be true or just that a
    > rumor? This person is quite reputable and accurate in the rumor
    > department.


    I guess you never look at Wikipedia. If you did, you'd know the truth, and
    if you don't, why would you care?



  4. #4
    Dan Abel Guest

    Default Re: Wikipedia charging?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Stu <[email protected]> wrote:

    > I got an email from an acquaintance with something strange info in it,
    > seems Wikipedia may be in the process to start charging for their
    > service.
    > Isn't Wikipedia the free encyclopedia, with its content from users
    > from all over the internet, this content given freely to help build
    > Wikipedia's site and search engine position? Has anyone heard this
    > rumor as well, just wondering if it could be true or just that a
    > rumor? This person is quite reputable and accurate in the rumor
    > department.


    Did the bottom of the Email say to forward it to everybody in your
    address book?

    :-)

    --
    Dan Abel
    Petaluma, California USA
    [email protected]

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    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: Wikipedia charging?


    "Stu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    >
    > I got an email from an acquaintance with something strange info in it,
    > seems Wikipedia may be in the process to start charging for their
    > service.
    > Isn't Wikipedia the free encyclopedia, with its content from users
    > from all over the internet, this content given freely to help build
    > Wikipedia's site and search engine position? Has anyone heard this
    > rumor as well, just wondering if it could be true or just that a
    > rumor? This person is quite reputable and accurate in the rumor
    > department.


    I have not heard this but they have been asking for donations for some time.

    I do know that Encyclopaedia Britannica only allows you to view so much and
    after that they want to charge you. Now I would be fine with this if you
    could pay for say...a week at a time. But they want you to sign up for a
    year or two and pay for it weekly.



  6. #6
    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: Wikipedia charging?


    "Dan Abel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > Stu <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> I got an email from an acquaintance with something strange info in it,
    >> seems Wikipedia may be in the process to start charging for their
    >> service.
    >> Isn't Wikipedia the free encyclopedia, with its content from users
    >> from all over the internet, this content given freely to help build
    >> Wikipedia's site and search engine position? Has anyone heard this
    >> rumor as well, just wondering if it could be true or just that a
    >> rumor? This person is quite reputable and accurate in the rumor
    >> department.

    >
    > Did the bottom of the Email say to forward it to everybody in your
    > address book?
    >
    > :-)


    Hehehe. If you do that, Bill Gates might buy you a free dinner from
    Applebee's!



  7. #7
    Stu Guest

    Default Re: Wikipedia charging?

    On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 22:21:01 -0800, Dan Abel <[email protected]> wrote:

    >In article <[email protected]>,
    > Stu <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> I got an email from an acquaintance with something strange info in it,
    >> seems Wikipedia may be in the process to start charging for their
    >> service.
    >> Isn't Wikipedia the free encyclopedia, with its content from users
    >> from all over the internet, this content given freely to help build
    >> Wikipedia's site and search engine position? Has anyone heard this
    >> rumor as well, just wondering if it could be true or just that a
    >> rumor? This person is quite reputable and accurate in the rumor
    >> department.

    >
    >Did the bottom of the Email say to forward it to everybody in your
    >address book?
    >
    >:-)


    No, it was sent just to me with no requests to forward.

  8. #8
    blake murphy Guest

    Default Re: Wikipedia charging?

    On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 06:49:31 -0600, Stu wrote:

    > On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 22:21:01 -0800, Dan Abel <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>In article <[email protected]>,
    >> Stu <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> I got an email from an acquaintance with something strange info in it,
    >>> seems Wikipedia may be in the process to start charging for their
    >>> service.
    >>> Isn't Wikipedia the free encyclopedia, with its content from users
    >>> from all over the internet, this content given freely to help build
    >>> Wikipedia's site and search engine position? Has anyone heard this
    >>> rumor as well, just wondering if it could be true or just that a
    >>> rumor? This person is quite reputable and accurate in the rumor
    >>> department.

    >>
    >>Did the bottom of the Email say to forward it to everybody in your
    >>address book?
    >>
    >>:-)

    >
    > No, it was sent just to me with no requests to forward.


    <derisive snort>

    blake

  9. #9
    Kalmia Guest

    Default Re: Wikipedia charging?

    On Nov 17, 11:58*pm, Stu <s...@foodforu.ca> wrote:
    > I got an email from an acquaintance with something strange info in it,
    > seems Wikipedia may be in the process to start charging for their
    > service.
    > Isn't Wikipedia the free encyclopedia, with its content from users
    > from all over the internet, this content given freely to help build
    > Wikipedia's site and search engine position? Has anyone heard this
    > rumor as well, just wondering if it could be true or just that a
    > rumor? This person is quite reputable and accurate in the rumor
    > department.


    It won't surprise me if the day arrives when these groups are fee
    only.
    Good - maybe it'll eliminate some of the chaff.

  10. #10
    gloria.p Guest

    Default Re: Wikipedia charging?

    Stu wrote:
    > I got an email from an acquaintance with something strange info in it,
    > seems Wikipedia may be in the process to start charging for their
    > service.
    > Isn't Wikipedia the free encyclopedia, with its content from users
    > from all over the internet, this content given freely to help build
    > Wikipedia's site and search engine position? Has anyone heard this
    > rumor as well, just wondering if it could be true or just that a
    > rumor? This person is quite reputable and accurate in the rumor
    > department.




    The last time I used it there was a statement asking for donations,
    not a charge...yet.

    gloria p

  11. #11
    Default User Guest

    Default Re: Wikipedia charging?

    "Kalmia" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    > It won't surprise me if the day arrives when these groups are fee
    > only.


    How could that possibly be? You understand that Google doesn't own them,
    right? It's certainly the case that they could charge for access via Google
    Groups, but that wouldn't affect the people using other news services (many
    of which already charge).



    Brian
    --
    Day 652 of the "no grouchy usenet posts" project.
    Current music playing: None.



  12. #12
    Sqwertz Guest

    Default Re: Wikipedia charging?

    On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 23:59:26 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:

    > I do know that Encyclopaedia Britannica only allows you to view so much and
    > after that they want to charge you. Now I would be fine with this if you
    > could pay for say...a week at a time. But they want you to sign up for a
    > year or two and pay for it weekly.


    A bound set of encyclopedias costs about $1,000 and is out of date
    before it's printed. Wiki contains 1,000+ times more information
    than any bound or even online volumes. And it's just as accurate,
    except on the more mundane topics.

    The technology behind wiki is quite elaborate - much more so than
    IMDB's which was the first notable collaborate effort of Internet
    volunteers (Usenet). Until all the contributors got screwed when
    it was sold to Amazon for marketing purposes. It takes money to
    host servers and develop these things. And they also give away a
    subset of the technology used to host their site.

    It's more valuable than PBS (who has many corporate sponsors).
    Consider donating that weekly fee, or just 1% of what you'd pay for
    a set of encyclopedias to Wikimedia. There is no single more
    valuable source of updated, referenced, and linked information
    anywhere.

    For example, you won't find this in any printed encyclopedia (at
    least not my 1956 World Book of Knowledge):

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygiene_hypothesis

    The list of paraphilias is worth at least $15. I haven't even got
    past the "A's" yet.

    -sw

  13. #13
    Sqwertz Guest

    Default Re: Wikipedia charging?

    On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:19:49 -0800 (PST), Kalmia wrote:

    > It won't surprise me if the day arrives when these groups are fee
    > only.
    > Good - maybe it'll eliminate some of the chaff.


    ....as she posts from Google, who is the main instigator of spam and
    a large supporter contributor to the trolling community.

    -sw

  14. #14
    Dan Abel Guest

    Default Re: Wikipedia charging?

    In article <ic3t37$v23$[email protected]>,
    "gloria.p" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Stu wrote:
    > > I got an email from an acquaintance with something strange info in it,
    > > seems Wikipedia may be in the process to start charging for their
    > > service.


    >
    > The last time I used it there was a statement asking for donations,
    > not a charge...yet.


    Since Stu didn't give us any details, it's pretty hard to figure out
    what was meant.

    I was hoping someone else would mention the following piece of
    information, since I know so little:

    http://nokiaexperts.com/att-subscrip...es-nokia-e71x/

    I bought a new cell phone last January. It came with a free GPS
    application for 30 days, which cost US$15 a month. It was a Nokia
    phone, which included a GPS for free, but AT&T had them hack the
    hardware so it wouldn't work without some AT&T application, which is
    US$5 a month. You are required to get unlimited data to use this, which
    is the other US$15 a month for a phone with a numeric keypad.

    In checking out what was on the phone, it had an app called WIKIMOBILE
    encyclopedia. It was free for a day, and I think I tried it. The above
    cite says US$3.99 a month after the free trail. It's just an access
    method for Wikipedia. The phone could easily be configured to access
    Wikipedia from a menu using its browser, although I didn't do that.

    A few days after I bought the phone, I had a gall bladder attack and
    went to the hospital for a week. I felt like crap for some time after
    that. The GPS worked OK, but I didn't really need it. I have a US$99
    GPS unit from Costco in my car which works better and has no monthly
    charge. I didn't really need the unlimited data. Doing web searches
    and Email from the phone worked fine, but I really didn't want to deal
    with inputting info using a numeric keypad. I'm retired and stay home
    all the time anyway. I just needed a phone. So I canceled the GPS and
    data plan.

    --
    Dan Abel
    Petaluma, California USA
    [email protected]

  15. #15
    Mark Thorson Guest

    Default Re: Wikipedia charging?

    Sqwertz wrote:
    >
    > For example, you won't find this in any printed encyclopedia (at
    > least not my 1956 World Book of Knowledge):
    >
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygiene_hypothesis


    That's an interesting page! I had a World Book encyclopedia
    from 1955 or 1956 while I was growing up, but it was missing
    a few volumes, so I am woefully deficient in knowledge of
    certain subjects, especially those that begin with the
    letter C.

  16. #16
    Sqwertz Guest

    Default Re: Wikipedia charging?

    On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:25:05 -0600, Sqwertz wrote:

    > For example, you won't find this in any printed encyclopedia (at
    > least not my 1956 World Book of Knowledge):
    >
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygiene_hypothesis
    >
    > The list of paraphilias is worth at least $15. I haven't even got
    > past the "A's" yet.


    Why didn't somebody tell me I posted the wrong link? That was from
    the Allergies thread. This was supposed to be:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_fetishism

    -sw

  17. #17
    Sqwertz Guest

    Default Re: Wikipedia charging?

    On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 11:14:57 -0800, Mark Thorson wrote:

    > Sqwertz wrote:
    >>
    >> For example, you won't find this in any printed encyclopedia (at
    >> least not my 1956 World Book of Knowledge):
    >>
    >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygiene_hypothesis

    >
    > That's an interesting page!


    Yeah, well it was the wrong link. That was my link fro the allergy
    thread.

    -sw

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