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  1. #1
    Serene Guest

    Default Whole-wheat-and-rye bread (ABM)

    I keep experimenting with whole-grain rye bread -- my partner's
    diabetic, and rye has a better glycemic index than wheat, and
    besides, he likes rye bread. Anyway, I like this one. It's really
    substantial, but not dry or overly dense. The dough looks dubious
    straight out of the bread machine (I usually bake in the oven), but
    it bakes up well.

    Serene



    Whole-wheat-and-rye bread (ABM)

    2 1/2 cups whole-wheat flour (I grind my own; you may need a little
    more liquid if you use store-bought)
    1 cup whole-rye flour (see above)
    1/4 cup gluten
    2 Tbsp. sugar
    1 1/2 tsp. salt
    2 Tbsp. caraway seeds
    1 1/2 tsp. yeast

    Put ingredients in the breadmaker in the order the manufacturer
    says. Either do it on dough cycle, let rise a second time in a loaf
    pan, and then bake 35-40 minutes in a preheated 350F oven, or bake
    all the way on a whole-grain cycle.

  2. #2
    Karen in NC Guest

    Default Re: Whole-wheat-and-rye bread (ABM)


    "Serene" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >
    > Serene


    > Whole-wheat-and-rye bread (ABM)
    >
    > 2 1/2 cups whole-wheat flour (I grind my own; you may need a little more
    > liquid if you use store-bought)
    > 1 cup whole-rye flour (see above)
    > 1/4 cup gluten
    > 2 Tbsp. sugar
    > 1 1/2 tsp. salt
    > 2 Tbsp. caraway seeds
    > 1 1/2 tsp. yeast
    >
    > Put ingredients in the breadmaker in the order the manufacturer says.
    > Either do it on dough cycle, let rise a second time in a loaf pan, and
    > then bake 35-40 minutes in a preheated 350F oven, or bake all the way on a
    > whole-grain cycle.


    Sounds great, but how much/what kind of liquid?

    Thanks!

    Karen



  3. #3
    Karen in NC Guest

    Default Re: Whole-wheat-and-rye bread (ABM)


    "Serene" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    >
    > Serene


    > Whole-wheat-and-rye bread (ABM)
    >
    > 2 1/2 cups whole-wheat flour (I grind my own; you may need a little more
    > liquid if you use store-bought)
    > 1 cup whole-rye flour (see above)
    > 1/4 cup gluten
    > 2 Tbsp. sugar
    > 1 1/2 tsp. salt
    > 2 Tbsp. caraway seeds
    > 1 1/2 tsp. yeast
    >
    > Put ingredients in the breadmaker in the order the manufacturer says.
    > Either do it on dough cycle, let rise a second time in a loaf pan, and
    > then bake 35-40 minutes in a preheated 350F oven, or bake all the way on a
    > whole-grain cycle.


    Sounds great, but how much/what kind of liquid?

    Thanks!

    Karen



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    Serene Guest

    Default Re: Whole-wheat-and-rye bread (ABM)

    Karen in NC wrote:
    > "Serene" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    >> Serene

    >
    >> Whole-wheat-and-rye bread (ABM)
    >>
    >> 2 1/2 cups whole-wheat flour (I grind my own; you may need a little more
    >> liquid if you use store-bought)
    >> 1 cup whole-rye flour (see above)
    >> 1/4 cup gluten
    >> 2 Tbsp. sugar
    >> 1 1/2 tsp. salt
    >> 2 Tbsp. caraway seeds
    >> 1 1/2 tsp. yeast
    >>
    >> Put ingredients in the breadmaker in the order the manufacturer says.
    >> Either do it on dough cycle, let rise a second time in a loaf pan, and
    >> then bake 35-40 minutes in a preheated 350F oven, or bake all the way on a
    >> whole-grain cycle.

    >
    > Sounds great, but how much/what kind of liquid?


    D'oh. I'm a dork. 1 1/4 cups water. Thanks!

    Serene

  5. #5
    Serene Guest

    Default Re: Whole-wheat-and-rye bread (ABM)

    Karen in NC wrote:
    > "Serene" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    >> Serene

    >
    >> Whole-wheat-and-rye bread (ABM)
    >>
    >> 2 1/2 cups whole-wheat flour (I grind my own; you may need a little more
    >> liquid if you use store-bought)
    >> 1 cup whole-rye flour (see above)
    >> 1/4 cup gluten
    >> 2 Tbsp. sugar
    >> 1 1/2 tsp. salt
    >> 2 Tbsp. caraway seeds
    >> 1 1/2 tsp. yeast
    >>
    >> Put ingredients in the breadmaker in the order the manufacturer says.
    >> Either do it on dough cycle, let rise a second time in a loaf pan, and
    >> then bake 35-40 minutes in a preheated 350F oven, or bake all the way on a
    >> whole-grain cycle.

    >
    > Sounds great, but how much/what kind of liquid?


    D'oh. I'm a dork. 1 1/4 cups water. Thanks!

    Serene

  6. #6
    Karen in NC Guest

    Default Re: Whole-wheat-and-rye bread (ABM)


    "Serene" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    >
    > D'oh. I'm a dork. 1 1/4 cups water. Thanks!
    >
    > Serene


    Nah, you're not a dork at all...you just had a "senior moment", maybe? That
    sounds sooooo much nicer! LOL

    Thanks for posting the correction. Can't wait to try this - it sounds
    super! :-)

    Karen



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    Karen in NC Guest

    Default Re: Whole-wheat-and-rye bread (ABM)


    "Serene" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    >
    > D'oh. I'm a dork. 1 1/4 cups water. Thanks!
    >
    > Serene


    Nah, you're not a dork at all...you just had a "senior moment", maybe? That
    sounds sooooo much nicer! LOL

    Thanks for posting the correction. Can't wait to try this - it sounds
    super! :-)

    Karen



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    Serene Guest

    Default Re: Whole-wheat-and-rye bread (ABM)

    Karen in NC wrote:
    > "Serene" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    >> D'oh. I'm a dork. 1 1/4 cups water. Thanks!
    >>
    >> Serene

    >
    > Nah, you're not a dork at all...you just had a "senior moment", maybe? That
    > sounds sooooo much nicer! LOL


    Maybe not when you're 41. :-)

    >
    > Thanks for posting the correction. Can't wait to try this - it sounds
    > super! :-)


    Thanks!

    Serene

  9. #9
    Serene Guest

    Default Re: Whole-wheat-and-rye bread (ABM)

    Karen in NC wrote:
    > "Serene" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    >> D'oh. I'm a dork. 1 1/4 cups water. Thanks!
    >>
    >> Serene

    >
    > Nah, you're not a dork at all...you just had a "senior moment", maybe? That
    > sounds sooooo much nicer! LOL


    Maybe not when you're 41. :-)

    >
    > Thanks for posting the correction. Can't wait to try this - it sounds
    > super! :-)


    Thanks!

    Serene

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    TammyM Guest

    Default Re: Whole-wheat-and-rye bread (ABM)


    "Serene" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > Whole-wheat-and-rye bread (ABM)
    >
    > 2 1/2 cups whole-wheat flour (I grind my own; you may need a little more
    > liquid if you use store-bought)
    > 1 cup whole-rye flour (see above)
    > 1/4 cup gluten
    > 2 Tbsp. sugar
    > 1 1/2 tsp. salt
    > 2 Tbsp. caraway seeds
    > 1 1/2 tsp. yeast
    >
    > Put ingredients in the breadmaker in the order the manufacturer says.
    > Either do it on dough cycle, let rise a second time in a loaf pan, and
    > then bake 35-40 minutes in a preheated 350F oven, or bake all the way on a
    > whole-grain cycle.


    Question, Serene and other bakers. I've seen recipes call for:
    Gluten
    Gluten flour
    Vital wheat gluten

    Is it all the same stuff?

    I make a flax seed bread that is fabulous. I'll dig out the recipe.

    TammyM



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    TammyM Guest

    Default Re: Whole-wheat-and-rye bread (ABM)


    "Serene" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > Whole-wheat-and-rye bread (ABM)
    >
    > 2 1/2 cups whole-wheat flour (I grind my own; you may need a little more
    > liquid if you use store-bought)
    > 1 cup whole-rye flour (see above)
    > 1/4 cup gluten
    > 2 Tbsp. sugar
    > 1 1/2 tsp. salt
    > 2 Tbsp. caraway seeds
    > 1 1/2 tsp. yeast
    >
    > Put ingredients in the breadmaker in the order the manufacturer says.
    > Either do it on dough cycle, let rise a second time in a loaf pan, and
    > then bake 35-40 minutes in a preheated 350F oven, or bake all the way on a
    > whole-grain cycle.


    Question, Serene and other bakers. I've seen recipes call for:
    Gluten
    Gluten flour
    Vital wheat gluten

    Is it all the same stuff?

    I make a flax seed bread that is fabulous. I'll dig out the recipe.

    TammyM



  12. #12
    Serene Guest

    Default Re: Whole-wheat-and-rye bread (ABM)

    TammyM wrote:

    > Question, Serene and other bakers. I've seen recipes call for:
    > Gluten
    > Gluten flour
    > Vital wheat gluten
    >
    > Is it all the same stuff?


    I understand that in some places, "gluten flour" means what I call
    "bread flour", that is, baking flour with more protein (gluten) than
    all-purpose. But in general, yes, they're the same where I live. If
    they don't have vital wheat gluten in your bulk bins, you might
    check wherever you would buy baking supplies or vegan-hippy-type
    foods. ;-) (In the hippy-foods section, it's often in a box, and
    labeled as a mix for making seitan, and it's more expensive than
    buying it as a baking supply, even though it's the same stuff.)

    Serene

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    Serene Guest

    Default Re: Whole-wheat-and-rye bread (ABM)

    TammyM wrote:

    > Question, Serene and other bakers. I've seen recipes call for:
    > Gluten
    > Gluten flour
    > Vital wheat gluten
    >
    > Is it all the same stuff?


    I understand that in some places, "gluten flour" means what I call
    "bread flour", that is, baking flour with more protein (gluten) than
    all-purpose. But in general, yes, they're the same where I live. If
    they don't have vital wheat gluten in your bulk bins, you might
    check wherever you would buy baking supplies or vegan-hippy-type
    foods. ;-) (In the hippy-foods section, it's often in a box, and
    labeled as a mix for making seitan, and it's more expensive than
    buying it as a baking supply, even though it's the same stuff.)

    Serene

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