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Thread: What's a substitute for Pernod?

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    Victor Sack Guest

    Default Re: What's a substitute for Pernod?

    Kris <[email protected]> wrote:

    > I want to make a recipe that calls for 1 TB of pernod.
    >
    > I am not buying a whole bottle of expensive liquor for THAT little!
    > What else would be a sub for it? Sambuca (which I don'thave either)??


    Many kinds of liquour are marketed under the name Pernod. I suspect you
    have pastis in mind. It is an anise- (or nowadays star anise) flavoured
    aperitif-type liquor, which was developed to replace absinthe after it
    was outlawed in France. There are many pastis brands, Pernod being just
    one of them (and Pernod now produces absinthe again). There is also
    Ricard (which belongs to Pernod, too, being a part of the Pernod-Ricard
    conglomerate), Janot, Casanis, Duval, Anilou, etc. Pastis, in France at
    least, is usually not very expensive, being a "common man" drink.

    Pastis can be possibly substituted by another anise-flavoured liquor,
    such as the Arabic arak, the Turkish raki, the greek ouzo and, yes,
    possibly even by sambuca. Sambuca, though, is usually sweetened, so
    would probably lend itself to sweet recipes only.

    Victor
    who can't stand anything anise-flavoured

  2. #2
    Kris Guest

    Default What's a substitute for Pernod?

    Good evening all,

    I want to make a recipe that calls for 1 TB of pernod.

    I am not buying a whole bottle of expensive liquor for THAT little!
    What else would be a sub for it? Sambuca (which I don'thave either)??

    Thanks for any help,

    Kris

  3. #3
    Dave Smith Guest

    Default Re: What's a substitute for Pernod?

    Kris wrote:
    > Good evening all,
    >
    > I want to make a recipe that calls for 1 TB of pernod.
    >
    > I am not buying a whole bottle of expensive liquor for THAT little!
    > What else would be a sub for it? Sambuca (which I don'thave either)??


    For that small amount you could probably get away with a bit of Ouzo or
    Pastisse, but if you don't have Pernod or Sambuca you probably would not
    have those either. You could try a small pinch of anise with brandy,
    white rum or vodka.

  4. #4
    Kris Guest

    Default Re: What's a substitute for Pernod?

    On Apr 2, 7:00*pm, Dave Smith <adavid.sm...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    > Kris wrote:
    > > Good evening all,

    >
    > > I want to make a recipe that calls for 1 TB of pernod.

    >
    > > I am not buying a whole bottle of expensive liquor for THAT little!
    > > What else would be a sub for it? Sambuca (which I don'thave either)??

    >
    > For that small amount you could probably get away with a bit of Ouzo or
    > Pastisse, but if you don't have Pernod or Sambuca you probably would not
    > have those either. You could try a small pinch of anise with brandy,
    > white rum or vodka.


    I have anise seed. Do you think steeping vodka with some of that would
    work?

    Kris

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    Mark P. Nelson Guest

    Default Re: What's a substitute for Pernod?

    Kris <[email protected]> wrote in news:3585dc72-87c2-4451-a370-
    [email protected]:

    > Good evening all,
    >
    > I want to make a recipe that calls for 1 TB of pernod.
    >
    > I am not buying a whole bottle of expensive liquor for THAT little!
    > What else would be a sub for it? Sambuca (which I don'thave either)??
    >
    > Thanks for any help,
    >
    > Kris


    If you're near Oakland, California, I could give you a spoonful. Otherwise,
    I'd suggest grinding a little star anise and adding some neat vodka.

    Mark.

    --
    Verbing weirds language--Calvin


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    Merryb Guest

    Default Re: What's a substitute for Pernod?

    On Apr 2, 4:06*pm, Kris <shanno...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    > On Apr 2, 7:00*pm, Dave Smith <adavid.sm...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    >
    > > Kris wrote:
    > > > Good evening all,

    >
    > > > I want to make a recipe that calls for 1 TB of pernod.

    >
    > > > I am not buying a whole bottle of expensive liquor for THAT little!
    > > > What else would be a sub for it? Sambuca (which I don'thave either)??

    >
    > > For that small amount you could probably get away with a bit of Ouzo or
    > > Pastisse, but if you don't have Pernod or Sambuca you probably would not
    > > have those either. You could try a small pinch of anise with brandy,
    > > white rum or vodka.

    >
    > I have anise seed. Do you think steeping vodka with some of that would
    > work?
    >
    > Kris


    I think that might work okay...

  7. #7
    Dave Smith Guest

    Default Re: What's a substitute for Pernod?

    Mark Thorson wrote:
    > Kris wrote:
    >> Good evening all,
    >>
    >> I want to make a recipe that calls for 1 TB of pernod.
    >>
    >> I am not buying a whole bottle of expensive liquor for THAT little!
    >> What else would be a sub for it? Sambuca (which I don'thave either)??

    >
    > Pernod itself was developed as a mock absinthe.


    It was not a mock absinthe. Pernod was the most popular brand of that
    type of liquor. It had a high alcohol content and had the added kick of
    the wormwood. When absinthe was banned it re-emerged as pastis. a lower
    alcohol spirit but without the wormwood. It is very popular all around
    the Mediterranean and especially in France.


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    Mr. Bill Guest

    Default Re: What's a substitute for Pernod?

    On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 16:06:19 -0700 (PDT), Kris <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >I have anise seed. Do you think steeping vodka with some of that would
    >work?


    They might be usable in six to eight weeks...but the Pernod is needed
    soon!

    Stop and think about it....how many recipes have you run across that
    required Pernod? I probably would skip the recipe and go on to
    something more palatable.





  9. #9
    Mr. Bill Guest

    Default Re: What's a substitute for Pernod?

    On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 16:43:57 -0800, Mark Thorson <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >Not that you're likely to have an open bottle of absinthe
    >in the house . . .


    Wasn't that banned for sale? Think I remember reading something
    about that.

    ....from Wikapedia


    The chemical thujone, present in small quantities, was singled out and
    blamed for its alleged harmful effects. By 1915, absinthe had been
    banned in the United States and in most European countries except the
    United Kingdom, Sweden, Spain, Portugal, Denmark and the
    Austro-Hungarian Empire.

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    Dave Smith Guest

    Default Re: What's a substitute for Pernod?

    Mr. Bill wrote:

    > The chemical thujone, present in small quantities, was singled out and
    > blamed for its alleged harmful effects. By 1915, absinthe had been
    > banned in the United States and in most European countries except the
    > United Kingdom, Sweden, Spain, Portugal, Denmark and the
    > Austro-Hungarian Empire.





    Absinthe is legal in a lot of places now, including the US. My son and
    his friends used to order it by mail from the Czech Republic moe than 10
    years ago.

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    Mark Thorson Guest

    Default Re: What's a substitute for Pernod?

    Kris wrote:
    >
    > Good evening all,
    >
    > I want to make a recipe that calls for 1 TB of pernod.
    >
    > I am not buying a whole bottle of expensive liquor for THAT little!
    > What else would be a sub for it? Sambuca (which I don'thave either)??


    Pernod itself was developed as a mock absinthe.

    Not that you're likely to have an open bottle of absinthe
    in the house . . .

  12. #12
    Janet Wilder Guest

    Default Re: What's a substitute for Pernod?

    Dave Smith wrote:
    > Mark Thorson wrote:
    >> Kris wrote:
    >>> Good evening all,
    >>>
    >>> I want to make a recipe that calls for 1 TB of pernod.
    >>>
    >>> I am not buying a whole bottle of expensive liquor for THAT little!
    >>> What else would be a sub for it? Sambuca (which I don'thave either)??

    >>
    >> Pernod itself was developed as a mock absinthe.

    >
    > It was not a mock absinthe. Pernod was the most popular brand of that
    > type of liquor. It had a high alcohol content and had the added kick of
    > the wormwood. When absinthe was banned it re-emerged as pastis. a lower
    > alcohol spirit but without the wormwood. It is very popular all around
    > the Mediterranean and especially in France.
    >


    I had Pastis in Paris last Fall. It was wonderful. I have scoured the
    local liquor stores and no one seems to have it. I looked on the cruise
    ship in February but they didn't have it either. It seems to be a
    novelty liquor here. I guess I can live without it. <g>

    --
    Janet Wilder
    way-the-heck-south Texas
    spelling doesn't count
    but cooking does

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    Dave Smith Guest

    Default Re: What's a substitute for Pernod?

    Janet Wilder wrote:

    >>
    >> It was not a mock absinthe. Pernod was the most popular brand of that
    >> type of liquor. It had a high alcohol content and had the added kick
    >> of the wormwood. When absinthe was banned it re-emerged as pastis. a
    >> lower alcohol spirit but without the wormwood. It is very popular all
    >> around the Mediterranean and especially in France.
    >>

    >
    > I had Pastis in Paris last Fall. It was wonderful. I have scoured the
    > local liquor stores and no one seems to have it. I looked on the cruise
    > ship in February but they didn't have it either. It seems to be a
    > novelty liquor here. I guess I can live without it. <g>
    >


    You can get it in any liquor store around here. I always have some on
    hand. A little pastis is a nice touch to flambee shrimp. It is also a
    nice drink on a hot summer day, but be careful. That stuff is potent.

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    Paco Guest

    Default Re: What's a substitute for Pernod?



    "Kris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > Good evening all,
    >
    > I want to make a recipe that calls for 1 TB of pernod.
    >
    > I am not buying a whole bottle of expensive liquor for THAT little!
    > What else would be a sub for it? Sambuca (which I don'thave either)??
    >
    > Thanks for any help,
    >
    > Kris


    Many liquor stores (package stores, agencies, etc.) carry "airline"
    bottles, about a shot's worth. Great for cooking with. I've been using
    them for a few years now; they cost a little bit more, per unit measure, but
    better than buying booze that's not going to get consumed in a reasonable
    amount of time. Also started buying those 4-packs of wine for cooking, as
    we're not big wine drinkers.


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    Steve Pope Guest

    Default Re: What's a substitute for Pernod?

    Paco <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Many liquor stores (package stores, agencies, etc.) carry "airline"
    > bottles, about a shot's worth. Great for cooking with. I've been using
    > them for a few years now; they cost a little bit more, per unit measure, but
    > better than buying booze that's not going to get consumed in a reasonable
    > amount of time.


    I buy a few when I go to see a local comedy show, Ask Dr. Hal at
    Chicken House in the mission. They'd let you take a full-size bottle
    in, but somehow the miniature seem more a-pro-pro.

    There was no Night Train at the nearest corner store.
    That would be appropriate too.

    S.

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    Mr. Bill Guest

    Default Re: What's a substitute for Pernod?

    On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 20:17:21 -0400, Dave Smith
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Absinthe is legal in a lot of places now, including the US. My son and
    >his friends used to order it by mail from the Czech Republic moe than 10
    >years ago.


    What made it so harmful and a banned substance? All I have ever
    learned is that it made you crazy. Most liquor does that to lots of
    people!!


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    Bob Terwilliger Guest

    Default Re: What's a substitute for Pernod?

    Mr. Bill wrote about absinthe:

    > What made it so harmful and a banned substance? All I have ever
    > learned is that it made you crazy. Most liquor does that to lots of
    > people!!


    Especially in Moonshine Country where you live, isn't that right,
    Hill-Billy?

    Bob (!!)


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    ViLco Guest

    Default Re: What's a substitute for Pernod?

    Victor Sack wrote:

    >> I want to make a recipe that calls for 1 TB of pernod.
    >> I am not buying a whole bottle of expensive liquor for THAT little!
    >> What else would be a sub for it? Sambuca (which I don'thave either)??


    > Many kinds of liquour are marketed under the name Pernod. I suspect
    > you have pastis in mind. It is an anise- (or nowadays star anise)
    > flavoured aperitif-type liquor, which was developed to replace
    > absinthe after it was outlawed in France. There are many pastis
    > ...
    > Victor
    > who can't stand anything anise-flavoured


    Me too, even a single anise seed or petal in a huge roast would put me off
    at the first bite, if not at the first smell. But, incredibly, I like both
    Pastis and Sambuca. Don't ask me why
    --
    Vilco
    Mai guardare Trailer park Boys senza
    qualcosa da bere a portata di mano




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    Kris Guest

    Default Re: What's a substitute for Pernod?

    On Apr 2, 8:08*pm, Mr. Bill <bb0...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 16:06:19 -0700 (PDT), Kris <shanno...@hotmail.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >I have anise seed. Do you think steeping vodka with some of that would
    > >work?

    >
    > They might be usable in six to eight weeks...but the Pernod is needed
    > soon! * *
    >
    > Stop and think about it....how many recipes have you run across that
    > required Pernod? * *I probably would skip the recipe and go on to
    > something more palatable. *


    But it looks so good I have to try! I may get Ouzo or call around to
    find the airline sized bottle.

    Last resort is steeping the vodka. I have both anise seed and star
    anise - which do you think would work better?

    Thanks again,
    Kris

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    Dave Smith Guest

    Default Re: What's a substitute for Pernod?

    Mr. Bill wrote:
    > On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 20:17:21 -0400, Dave Smith
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Absinthe is legal in a lot of places now, including the US. My son and
    >> his friends used to order it by mail from the Czech Republic moe than 10
    >> years ago.

    >
    > What made it so harmful and a banned substance? All I have ever
    > learned is that it made you crazy. Most liquor does that to lots of
    > people!!



    Thujone from the wormwood was the substance that was blamed for the
    absinthe problems, though it was just as likely to be the high alcohol
    content. There was also the influence of the wine producers and the
    prohibitionists.

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