Thread: What to use as milk substitute in packaged foods

<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> What to use as milk substitute in packaged foods???????
>
> I'm a single guy and most of what I cook is packaged meals. So many of
> these things want me to add milk. I'm referring to packaged macaroni
> and cheese, instant mashed potatoes, and so many more things.
>
> I'm lactose intolerant and dont use milk at all.
>
> The instant potatoes are fine with just plain water, but the macaroni
> and cheese is pretty tasteless and seems to lack a lot in the cheese
> part. Most of the other packaged foods seem to be lacking too, when I
> just use plain water. What can I use as a substitute?
>
> Yes, I am aware of soy milk, but keeping a jug of that around just for
> adding to packaged meals means that a lot of it would go to waste.
> Something powdered would be better.
>
> Thanks

Why are you even eating mac and cheese if you are lactose intolerant? Do
you not know that there is lactose in the cheese?

You can add broth of any kind to the potatoes, but I found that I didn't
care for them like that. I use water and Nucoa, but there are other dairy
free margarines out there too.

Vance's Dari Free is a dairy free milk that comes in a powder but we found
that it was too sweet for savory foods. My friend gets a powdered rice milk
from a local health food store. I don't know the name but if you look
online you can find it. It's not cheap. Alternate milks are available in
single serve sizes and if you are careful not to spill the box and perhaps
cover the top with a plastic bag or something, an open box would keep for a
week.

You can also get dairy free mac and cheese.Road's End Organics makes one.
So does Namaste. I like the Namaste but not the Road's End. Daughter liked
the Road's End because it tastes of mustard. I don't like mustard. Whole
Foods (and probably other places) sells a frozen one that is made with Daiya
rice cheese. It's very good but also very expensive.

You would probably be better off just making things that don't need dairy to
begin with. Like pan fried, roasted or baked potatoes. And pasta with meat
and gravy. Or red sauce and use an alternate cheese.

On Thursday, September 27, 2012 11:32:57 PM UTC-6, (unknown) wrote:
> What to use as milk substitute in packaged foods???????
>
>
>
> I'm a single guy and most of what I cook is packaged meals. So many of
>
> these things want me to add milk. I'm referring to packaged macaroni
>
> and cheese, instant mashed potatoes, and so many more things.
>
>
>
> I'm lactose intolerant and dont use milk at all.
>
>
>
> The instant potatoes are fine with just plain water, but the macaroni
>
> and cheese is pretty tasteless and seems to lack a lot in the cheese
>
> part. Most of the other packaged foods seem to be lacking too, when I
>
> just use plain water. What can I use as a substitute?
>
>
>
> Yes, I am aware of soy milk, but keeping a jug of that around just for
>
> adding to packaged meals means that a lot of it would go to waste.
>
> Something powdered would be better.
>
>
>
> Thanks

How about a big bag of calcium carbonate from the Drug Store? Mix it with
water and away you go. Before you do this though you should ask your
doctor if this would be appropriate.

On Sep 28, 12:54*am, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
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> > What to use as milk substitute in packaged foods???????
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> > I'm a single guy and most of what I cook is packaged meals. *So many of
> > these things want me to add milk. *I'm referring to packaged macaroni
> > and cheese, instant mashed potatoes, and so many more things.
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> > I'm lactose intolerant and dont use milk at all.
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> > The instant potatoes are fine with just plain water, but the macaroni
> > and cheese is pretty tasteless and seems to lack a lot in the cheese
> > part. *Most of the other packaged foods seem to be lacking too, when I
> > just use plain water. *What can I use as a substitute?
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> > Yes, I am aware of soy milk, but keeping a jug of that around just for
> > adding to packaged meals means that a lot of it would go to waste.
> > Something powdered would be better.
>
> > Thanks
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> Why are you even eating mac and cheese if you are lactose intolerant? *Do
> you not know that there is lactose in the cheese?
>
Maybe in that **** in the box, but real cheese like cheddar has very
little lactose left in it, mere traces. Why don't you just shut up if
you don't know something with a reasonable degree of certainty?

--Bryan http://www.intrade.com/v4/misc/scoreboard/

[email protected] wrote:
> What to use as milk substitute in packaged foods???????
>
> I'm a single guy and most of what I cook is packaged meals. So many
> of these things want me to add milk. I'm referring to packaged
> macaroni and cheese, instant mashed potatoes, and so many more things.
>
> I'm lactose intolerant and dont use milk at all.
>
> The instant potatoes are fine with just plain water, but the macaroni
> and cheese is pretty tasteless and seems to lack a lot in the cheese
> part. Most of the other packaged foods seem to be lacking too, when I
> just use plain water. What can I use as a substitute?
>
> Yes, I am aware of soy milk, but keeping a jug of that around just for
> adding to packaged meals means that a lot of it would go to waste.
> Something powdered would be better.
>
> Thanks

Acidophilus supplements, or sweet acidophilus milk if you can find it, help
many people with lactose intolerance. There are a number of differently
formulated options so if the first one doesn't work don't give up just yet.
Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactobacillus_acidophilus
Find products on The Google http://x2t.com/acidophilus

MartyB

Nunya Bidnits <[email protected]> wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>> What to use as milk substitute in packaged foods???????
>>
>> I'm a single guy and most of what I cook is packaged meals. So many
>> of these things want me to add milk. I'm referring to packaged
>> macaroni and cheese, instant mashed potatoes, and so many more
>> things. I'm lactose intolerant and dont use milk at all.
>>
>> The instant potatoes are fine with just plain water, but the macaroni
>> and cheese is pretty tasteless and seems to lack a lot in the cheese
>> part. Most of the other packaged foods seem to be lacking too, when
>> I just use plain water. What can I use as a substitute?
>>
>> Yes, I am aware of soy milk, but keeping a jug of that around just
>> for adding to packaged meals means that a lot of it would go to
>> waste. Something powdered would be better.
>>
>> Thanks
>
> Acidophilus supplements, or sweet acidophilus milk if you can find
> it, help many people with lactose intolerance. There are a number of
> differently formulated options so if the first one doesn't work don't
> give up just yet. Wiki
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactobacillus_acidophilus Find products on
> The Google http://x2t.com/acidophilus
>
> MartyB

I should have also noted that when cooking dry prepared food products you
can often get away with subbing stock. If you're cooking out of packets and
cans, buy some cans or boxes of chicken or beef "broth" and try that. It
beats just plain water. Or get some soup flavoring packets and reconstitute
them.

MartyB

MartyB

On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 04:55:11 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Maybe in that **** in the box, but real cheese like cheddar has very
>little lactose left in it, mere traces. Why don't you just shut up if
>you don't know something with a reasonable degree of certainty?

If milk was interchangeable with water in those packaged foods,
they would SAY to use water!

There is fat in milk that is often necessary to make the food taste
right. It ISN'T just the lactose that is important (although that
IS part of the milk fat!).

And PLEASE take your own advice!!









To reply by email, lose the Ks...

"Nunya Bidnits" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Nunya Bidnits <[email protected]> wrote:
>> [email protected] wrote:

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>>> Yes, I am aware of soy milk, but keeping a jug of that around just
>>> for adding to packaged meals means that a lot of it would go to
>>> waste. Something powdered would be better.

They make powdered coconut [or soy] milk that I find handy when I just
need a little and don't want to open a can/container.

-snip-
>I should have also noted that when cooking dry prepared food products you
>can often get away with subbing stock. If you're cooking out of packets and
>cans, buy some cans or boxes of chicken or beef "broth" and try that. It
>beats just plain water. Or get some soup flavoring packets and reconstitute
>them.

most of them will kick up the sodium content- so compensate-- but the
flavor and fat should help.

Jim

On 28-Sep-2012, [email protected] wrote:

> What to use as milk substitute in packaged foods???????
Silk, or other brand, soy milk. Make sure the container says plain, not
vanilla or other flavored variety.
--

Change Cujo to Juno in email address.

Bryan wrote:
> On Sep 28, 12:54 am, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
>> <ranfo...@unlisted.com> wrote in message
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>>> What to use as milk substitute in packaged foods???????
>>
>>> I'm a single guy and most of what I cook is packaged meals. So many
>>> of these things want me to add milk. I'm referring to packaged
>>> macaroni and cheese, instant mashed potatoes, and so many more
>>> things.
>>
>>> I'm lactose intolerant and dont use milk at all.
>>
>>> The instant potatoes are fine with just plain water, but the
>>> macaroni and cheese is pretty tasteless and seems to lack a lot in
>>> the cheese part. Most of the other packaged foods seem to be
>>> lacking too, when I just use plain water. What can I use as a
>>> substitute?
>>
>>> Yes, I am aware of soy milk, but keeping a jug of that around just
>>> for adding to packaged meals means that a lot of it would go to
>>> waste. Something powdered would be better.
>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>> Why are you even eating mac and cheese if you are lactose
>> intolerant? Do you not know that there is lactose in the cheese?
>>
> Maybe in that **** in the box, but real cheese like cheddar has very
> little lactose left in it, mere traces. Why don't you just shut up if
> you don't know something with a reasonable degree of certainty?

Oh but I *do* know. Some people with lactose intolerance can eat cheese and
some can not.

On 9/28/2012 1:32 AM, [email protected] wrote:

> What to use as milk substitute in packaged foods???????
>
> I'm a single guy and most of what I cook is packaged meals. So many of
> these things want me to add milk. I'm referring to packaged macaroni
> and cheese, instant mashed potatoes, and so many more things.
>
> I'm lactose intolerant and dont use milk at all.

Ditto. Do yourself a favor and get some Lactaid tablets or the
like and you will be able to eat without fear of consequences.
I didn't take them for a long time and now I carry some with me
when I am out and I can order what I want in restaurants, aside
from having mac n cheese, ice cream, etc at home if I want it.

Next we can try to convince you to make your own rather than
eat out of a box. Heh.

nancy

[email protected] wrote:
>
> What to use as milk substitute in packaged foods???????
>
> I'm a single guy and most of what I cook is packaged meals. So many of
> these things want me to add milk. I'm referring to packaged macaroni
> and cheese, instant mashed potatoes, and so many more things.
>
> I'm lactose intolerant and dont use milk at all.
>
> The instant potatoes are fine with just plain water, but the macaroni
> and cheese is pretty tasteless and seems to lack a lot in the cheese
> part. Most of the other packaged foods seem to be lacking too, when I
> just use plain water. What can I use as a substitute?

Are you okay when you have yogurt or sour cream? In both cases the
process converts lactose into lactic acid. Same with cream cheese and
any other type of cheese. Especially aged hard cheeses that are very
close to carb free.

If you have the same issue with those fermented dairy products your
issue is actually something other than lactose intolerance. It's an
intolerance to the proteins in cow milk. You could try goat milk or
sheep milk and see how it goes. Else go dairy free and look for
alternatives.

> Yes, I am aware of soy milk, but keeping a jug of that around just for
> adding to packaged meals means that a lot of it would go to waste.

I like almond milk even better. I get it occasionally for the flavor as
I'm neither lactose intolerant nor dairy protein intolerant.

> Something powdered would be better.

Experiment with slurry of various powders. Nut flour. Corn starch. or
get coconut milk in the can and pour the unused part into a bottle to
keep in the fridge.

The Other Guy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 04:55:11 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Maybe in that **** in the box, but real cheese like cheddar has very
>> little lactose left in it, mere traces. Why don't you just shut up
>> if you don't know something with a reasonable degree of certainty?
>
> If milk was interchangeable with water in those packaged foods,
> they would SAY to use water!

Actually any liquid would work. Where milk is called for it is usally for
flavor and creaminess but is usually not essential.

> There is fat in milk that is often necessary to make the food taste
> right. It ISN'T just the lactose that is important (although that
> IS part of the milk fat!).

Actually most of those preparations, such as instant potatoes and noodle
dishes, specifically call for 2% milk. They do this to keep the fat rating
down on the nutritional label. Not much if any fat is needed. One can always
throw in a pat of butter to compensate if not using milk. Note that many of
these preparations also specify margarine, but call it optional.

MartyB

Nancy Young wrote:
> On 9/28/2012 1:32 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> What to use as milk substitute in packaged foods???????
>>
>> I'm a single guy and most of what I cook is packaged meals. So many of
>> these things want me to add milk. I'm referring to packaged macaroni
>> and cheese, instant mashed potatoes, and so many more things.
>>
>> I'm lactose intolerant and dont use milk at all.
>
> Ditto. Do yourself a favor and get some Lactaid tablets or the
> like and you will be able to eat without fear of consequences.

thanks - was starting to wonder if anyone else had heard of this

Doug Freyburger wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> What to use as milk substitute in packaged foods???????
>>
>> I'm a single guy and most of what I cook is packaged meals. So many of
>> these things want me to add milk. I'm referring to packaged macaroni
>> and cheese, instant mashed potatoes, and so many more things.
>>
>> I'm lactose intolerant and dont use milk at all.
>>
>> The instant potatoes are fine with just plain water, but the macaroni
>> and cheese is pretty tasteless and seems to lack a lot in the cheese
>> part. Most of the other packaged foods seem to be lacking too, when I
>> just use plain water. What can I use as a substitute?
>
> Are you okay when you have yogurt or sour cream? In both cases the
> process converts lactose into lactic acid. Same with cream cheese and
> any other type of cheese. Especially aged hard cheeses that are very
> close to carb free.
>
> If you have the same issue with those fermented dairy products your
> issue is actually something other than lactose intolerance. It's an
> intolerance to the proteins in cow milk.

Well, no. Not all the lactose is converted in many of the foods you
listed so this test fails pretty spectacularly.

Doug Freyburger <[email protected]> wrote in news:k44feb$953$1
@dont-email.me:

> Else go dairy free and look for
> alternatives.

Soy milk, oat milk, almond milk, hemp milk, rice milk...etc.

Make sure you get UNSWEETENED, otherwise you will most likely
regret it.

--

Traditions are group efforts to keep the unexpected
from happening.

-- Barbara Tober

On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 07:14:18 -0700, "Julie Bove"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Oh but I *do* know. Some people with lactose intolerance can eat cheese and
>some can not.

Real cheese in small amounts dont bother me, and that powdered stuff in
the mac and cheese does not affect me at all unless I was to add the
milk.

On 28/09/2012 1:01 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 07:14:18 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Oh but I *do* know. Some people with lactose intolerance can eat cheese and
>> some can not.
>
> Real cheese in small amounts dont bother me, and that powdered stuff in
> the mac and cheese does not affect me at all unless I was to add the
> milk.
>


Cheese tends to do a number on me. Mozorella is about the worst.

On 28/09/2012 11:33 AM, tert in seattle wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 9/28/2012 1:32 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> What to use as milk substitute in packaged foods???????
>>>
>>> I'm a single guy and most of what I cook is packaged meals. So many of
>>> these things want me to add milk. I'm referring to packaged macaroni
>>> and cheese, instant mashed potatoes, and so many more things.
>>>
>>> I'm lactose intolerant and dont use milk at all.
>>
>> Ditto. Do yourself a favor and get some Lactaid tablets or the
>> like and you will be able to eat without fear of consequences.
>
> thanks - was starting to wonder if anyone else had heard of this
>


I should remember to use them more often. Having been lactose intolerant
for so long, I learned long ago not to drink milk and not to eat much of
anything made from milk. I can handle only small doses of milk products.

"tert in seattle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]..
> Doug Freyburger wrote:
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>> What to use as milk substitute in packaged foods???????
>>>
>>> I'm a single guy and most of what I cook is packaged meals. So many of
>>> these things want me to add milk. I'm referring to packaged macaroni
>>> and cheese, instant mashed potatoes, and so many more things.
>>>
>>> I'm lactose intolerant and dont use milk at all.
>>>
>>> The instant potatoes are fine with just plain water, but the macaroni
>>> and cheese is pretty tasteless and seems to lack a lot in the cheese
>>> part. Most of the other packaged foods seem to be lacking too, when I
>>> just use plain water. What can I use as a substitute?
>>
>> Are you okay when you have yogurt or sour cream? In both cases the
>> process converts lactose into lactic acid. Same with cream cheese and
>> any other type of cheese. Especially aged hard cheeses that are very
>> close to carb free.
>>
>> If you have the same issue with those fermented dairy products your
>> issue is actually something other than lactose intolerance. It's an
>> intolerance to the proteins in cow milk.
>
> Well, no. Not all the lactose is converted in many of the foods you
> listed so this test fails pretty spectacularly.

From what I have read it's a pretty individual thing.