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  1. #1
    Andy Guest

    Default What class is Angus beef?

    What class is Angus beef?

    Prime, Choice, etc?

    It sounds so "upper crust," but for some reason, I'm not sold on the term.
    Could be my brother Angus' cow meat.

    Is it a steer limited to a region?

    "The problem with Angus"

    Andy

  2. #2
    George Leppla Guest

    Default Re: What class is Angus beef?

    Andy wrote:
    > What class is Angus beef?
    >
    > Prime, Choice, etc?
    >
    > It sounds so "upper crust," but for some reason, I'm not sold on the term.
    > Could be my brother Angus' cow meat.
    >
    > Is it a steer limited to a region?



    Angus is a breed of cattle, not a grade.

    George L

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    Andy Guest

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    George Leppla <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > Andy wrote:
    >> What class is Angus beef?
    >>
    >> Prime, Choice, etc?
    >>
    >> It sounds so "upper crust," but for some reason, I'm not sold on the
    >> term. Could be my brother Angus' cow meat.
    >>
    >> Is it a steer limited to a region?

    >
    >
    > Angus is a breed of cattle, not a grade.
    >
    > George L



    George L,

    Yeah, I should've searched it, prior. It was a quick passing curiosity at
    the keyboard at rfc.

    Best,

    Andy


  4. #4
    Mookie Guest

    Default Re: What class is Angus beef?

    On Nov 7, 8:09*am, Andy <a...@b.c> wrote:
    > What class is Angus beef?
    >
    > Prime, Choice, etc?
    >
    > It sounds so "upper crust," but for some reason, I'm not sold on the term..
    > Could be my brother Angus' cow meat.
    >
    > Is it a steer limited to a region?
    >
    > "The problem with Angus"
    >
    > Andy


    Andy, Angus are a breed of beef cattle. As in any other breed there
    will be various grades of beef depending on how the animal was fed,
    finished and aged. By itself being Angus beef does not make it any
    better IMHO then Hereford, Charolais or any other beef breeds. My Dad
    raised all three of these breeds of beef cattle at various times and
    we ate beef from all three breeds. They were grass fed, finished on
    corn and slaughtered at a small, local slaughter house. We were
    lucky. We knew what was in the meat we ate.
    Ruth

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    CaveMan Guest

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    "Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]..
    > George Leppla <[email protected]> wrote in
    > news:[email protected]:
    >
    >> Andy wrote:
    >>> What class is Angus beef?
    >>>
    >>> Prime, Choice, etc?
    >>>
    >>> It sounds so "upper crust," but for some reason, I'm not sold on the
    >>> term. Could be my brother Angus' cow meat.
    >>>
    >>> Is it a steer limited to a region?

    >>
    >>
    >> Angus is a breed of cattle, not a grade.
    >>
    >> George L

    >
    >
    > George L,
    >
    > Yeah, I should've searched it, prior. It was a quick passing curiosity at
    > the keyboard at rfc.
    >
    > Best,
    >
    > Andy
    >

    So, what you are saying (as usual) is that you are a lazy ass hole and
    expect others to do your homework for you.




  6. #6
    Andy Guest

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    Mookie <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > On Nov 7, 8:09*am, Andy <a...@b.c> wrote:
    >> What class is Angus beef?
    >>
    >> Prime, Choice, etc?
    >>
    >> It sounds so "upper crust," but for some reason, I'm not sold on the
    >> term

    > .
    >> Could be my brother Angus' cow meat.
    >>
    >> Is it a steer limited to a region?
    >>
    >> "The problem with Angus"
    >>
    >> Andy

    >
    > Andy, Angus are a breed of beef cattle. As in any other breed there
    > will be various grades of beef depending on how the animal was fed,
    > finished and aged. By itself being Angus beef does not make it any
    > better IMHO then Hereford, Charolais or any other beef breeds. My Dad
    > raised all three of these breeds of beef cattle at various times and
    > we ate beef from all three breeds. They were grass fed, finished on
    > corn and slaughtered at a small, local slaughter house. We were
    > lucky. We knew what was in the meat we ate.
    > Ruth



    Ruth,

    How lucky can you get?!?

    Thanks. I WAS wondering about Angus getting so much clout in the meat
    market.

    An aside: We summered on an organic farm in New Hope, PA (me, from
    newborn to 10-yo) and had the best of what they raised, and I helped
    raise it for a brief moment in time...

    Once the farm bell rang and we were all summoned to the bull pen where
    the farm hands were helping a bull mount a cow. We were all seated on the
    wall above. Wondering what they were doing, it was explained that they
    were making new cows. We all applauded!!!

    Best,

    Andy

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    Kswck Guest

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    "Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]..
    > What class is Angus beef?
    >
    > Prime, Choice, etc?
    >
    > It sounds so "upper crust," but for some reason, I'm not sold on the term.
    > Could be my brother Angus' cow meat.
    >
    > Is it a steer limited to a region?
    >
    > "The problem with Angus"
    >
    > Andy


    http://jacksonfrozenfoods.bizland.co...ity_grades.htm



  8. #8
    blake murphy Guest

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    On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:21:32 -0600, Andy wrote:

    > George Leppla <george[email protected]> wrote in
    > news:[email protected]:
    >
    >> Andy wrote:
    >>> What class is Angus beef?
    >>>
    >>> Prime, Choice, etc?
    >>>
    >>> It sounds so "upper crust," but for some reason, I'm not sold on the
    >>> term. Could be my brother Angus' cow meat.
    >>>
    >>> Is it a steer limited to a region?

    >>
    >> Angus is a breed of cattle, not a grade.
    >>
    >> George L

    >
    > George L,
    >
    > Yeah, I should've searched it, prior. It was a quick passing curiosity at
    > the keyboard at rfc.
    >
    > Best,
    >
    > Andy


    maybe instead of counting to ten before you speak, you should put on
    mittens before you type.

    blake

  9. #9
    Andy Guest

    Default Re: What class is Angus beef?

    "Kswck" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:4af58219$0$5020$[email protected]:

    >
    > "Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    >> What class is Angus beef?
    >>
    >> Prime, Choice, etc?
    >>
    >> It sounds so "upper crust," but for some reason, I'm not sold on the
    >> term. Could be my brother Angus' cow meat.
    >>
    >> Is it a steer limited to a region?
    >>
    >> "The problem with Angus"
    >>
    >> Andy

    >
    > http://jacksonfrozenfoods.bizland.co...ity_grades.htm



    Kswck,

    Right!

    I was just curious about Angus, also Kobe and other beef nonsense (not
    that it is!).

    Is Angus worth paying more for?

    That kind of thinking.

    Best,

    Andy

  10. #10
    Phred Guest

    Default Re: What class is Angus beef?

    In article <[email protected]>, Mookie <[email protected]> wrote:
    >On Nov 7, 8:09=A0am, Andy <a...@b.c> wrote:
    >> What class is Angus beef?
    >>
    >> Prime, Choice, etc?
    >>
    >> It sounds so "upper crust," but for some reason, I'm not sold on the term=

    >..
    >> Could be my brother Angus' cow meat.
    >>
    >> Is it a steer limited to a region?
    >>
    >> "The problem with Angus"

    >
    >Andy, Angus are a breed of beef cattle. As in any other breed there
    >will be various grades of beef depending on how the animal was fed,
    >finished and aged. By itself being Angus beef does not make it any
    >better IMHO then Hereford, Charolais or any other beef breeds. My Dad
    >raised all three of these breeds of beef cattle at various times and
    >we ate beef from all three breeds. They were grass fed, finished on
    >corn and slaughtered at a small, local slaughter house. We were
    >lucky. We knew what was in the meat we ate.


    Kept an eye on what the neighbours were up to, eh? ;-)


    Cheers, Phred.

    --
    [email protected]D


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    sf Guest

    Default Re: What class is Angus beef?

    On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:53:04 -0600, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Kswck,
    >
    >Right!
    >
    >I was just curious about Angus, also Kobe and other beef nonsense (not
    >that it is!).
    >
    >Is Angus worth paying more for?
    >
    >That kind of thinking.


    I don't think Angus is all that expensive. You pay a little mark up,
    the same way you would if it was marked Harris Ranch, but the real
    expensive stuff is kobe.

    --
    I love cooking with wine.
    Sometimes I even put it in the food.

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    Andy Guest

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    sf <[email protected]> wrote in news:k3abf5ln96dja41pils54pps4tvsu5lcq0@
    4ax.com:

    > On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:53:04 -0600, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>Kswck,
    >>
    >>Right!
    >>
    >>I was just curious about Angus, also Kobe and other beef nonsense (not
    >>that it is!).
    >>
    >>Is Angus worth paying more for?
    >>
    >>That kind of thinking.

    >
    > I don't think Angus is all that expensive. You pay a little mark up,
    > the same way you would if it was marked Harris Ranch, but the real
    > expensive stuff is kobe.



    sf,

    I saw/learned on TV that Kobe beef is mostly raised in America since
    Japan doesn't have the acreage to grow/supply their demand. It's raised
    here and then shipped to Japan for slaughter.

    Correct me if I'm wrong.

    Best,

    Andy

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    Dimitri Guest

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    "Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]..
    > What class is Angus beef?
    >
    > Prime, Choice, etc?
    >
    > It sounds so "upper crust," but for some reason, I'm not sold on the term.
    > Could be my brother Angus' cow meat.
    >
    > Is it a steer limited to a region?
    >
    > "The problem with Angus"
    >
    > Andy


    Just an FYI this called a GRADE of Beef not class.


    --
    Dimitri

    Last minute grilled Cardboard :-)

    http://kitchenguide.wordpress.com.


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    dsi1 Guest

    Default Re: What class is Angus beef?

    Andy wrote:
    > What class is Angus beef?
    >
    > Prime, Choice, etc?
    >
    > It sounds so "upper crust," but for some reason, I'm not sold on the term.
    > Could be my brother Angus' cow meat.
    >
    > Is it a steer limited to a region?
    >
    > "The problem with Angus"
    >
    > Andy


    Mostly it's a marketing device cooked up by the beef producers. It's
    working pretty good ain't it?

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    Andy Guest

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    "Dimitri" <[email protected]> wrote in news:EviJm.1863$dc2.1102
    @newsfe20.iad:

    > Just an FYI this called a GRADE of Beef not class.



    Dimitri,

    Be that as it may, is Angus more flavorful for the money?

    Best,

    Andy

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    JonquilJan Guest

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    "Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]..
    > "Dimitri" <[email protected]> wrote in news:EviJm.1863$dc2.1102
    > @newsfe20.iad:
    >
    >> Just an FYI this called a GRADE of Beef not class.

    >
    >
    > Dimitri,
    >
    > Be that as it may, is Angus more flavorful for the money?
    >
    > Best,
    >
    > Andy


    Angus is a breed of beef cattle. The flavor comes not from the breed but
    from how it is raised. Angus is no more flavorful or unflavorful than
    Hereford - or any other breed of beef cattle. It is how they are raised
    that makes the flavor.

    The term 'Angus' as it is used in advertising is used because it is more
    recognizable as a beef cattle breed than other breeds. The meat sold under
    that name may or may not be from an actual Angus bred cow/steer.

    It's advertising - and the gullibility and lack of knowledge of the average
    consumer.

    Look for the grade of the cut of meat - choice, prime, etc - to judge the
    quality.

    JonquilJan

    Learn something new every day
    As long as you are learning, you are living
    When you stop learning, you start dying



  17. #17
    Chemo the Clown Guest

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    On Nov 7, 10:25*am, Andy <a...@b.c> wrote:
    > "Dimitri" <Dimitr...@prodigy.net> wrote in news:EviJm.1863$dc2.1102
    > @newsfe20.iad:
    >
    > > Just an FYI this called a GRADE of Beef not class.

    >
    > Dimitri,
    >
    > Be that as it may, is Angus more flavorful for the money?
    >
    > Best,
    >
    > Andy


    Depends on how it was raised. Corn fed? Grain fed? Steroids,
    antibiotics added??

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    Andy Guest

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    Chemo the Clown <[email protected]> wrote in news:d864088d-dce4-4e03-b684-
    [email protected]:


    > Depends on how it was raised. Corn fed? Grain fed? Steroids,
    > antibiotics added??
    >



    Chemo, Take a moment and picture how corn fed isn't grain fed!

  19. #19
    Mark Thorson Guest

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    Andy wrote:
    >
    > Is Angus worth paying more for?


    No, the alleged superiority of Angus is a marketing
    gimmick invented by the beef industry of the northeast
    to counter low-cost beef from the western states, like
    Texas, where Angus do poorly. Differences in meat flavor
    are mostly due to what the cattle ate, not the breed.

  20. #20
    Dimitri Guest

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    "Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]..
    > "Dimitri" <[email protected]> wrote in news:EviJm.1863$dc2.1102
    > @newsfe20.iad:
    >
    >> Just an FYI this called a GRADE of Beef not class.

    >
    >
    > Dimitri,
    >
    > Be that as it may, is Angus more flavorful for the money?
    >
    > Best,
    >
    > Andy


    No one can make a reasonable judgment on that - Reason? The flavor of beef
    is dependent on several factors, the most important being diet - if you look
    at the fat of corn fed beef you'll see a yellowish tinge to the color of the
    fat. In addition corn fed beef has a distinctive flavor. Grass fed Western
    breed is generally tougher and again has a distinctive flavor. Next comes
    the aging process - no doubt you've herd of Dry Aged - Why Dry aging -
    simple to reduce the moisture content and thereby increase the flavor. Of
    course the cooking process, Temperature, seasonings, heat application, all
    effect the flavor of a chunk of cow.
    Last and by no means least breading and genetics play a role - the people
    who market Angus Beef want you to believe this breed of cow has favorable
    attributes which are superior to other breeds - True? I'll be go to hell if
    I know the answer.

    Final advice - if you can afford it and it tastes better then other products
    to you - go for it.


    --
    Dimitri

    Last minute grilled Cardboard :-)

    http://kitchenguide.wordpress.com.





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