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Old 11-10-2009, 08:40 PM
JonquilJan
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> Cheers,
>
> Rod...Out Back (Who's slowly working his way though about 500 lbs of
> home-killed
> Charbray steer in the freezer..)
>
>
> For a round-up of the pics I have taken the past 24 months,
> take a look at:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/rod_outback/
>
> -------


Rod - brought up your web site of photos. You are quite the picture taker!
Enjoying the wildlife and scenery.

JonquilJan

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Old 11-10-2009, 10:03 PM
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Dave Smith wrote:
>
> There are plenty of sites online that discuss the
> quality of meat and some show comparisons of various breeds conducted in
> a somewhat scientific manner. They used the same but from various breeds
> that as been slaughtered and butchered at the same abbatoir. Breed can
> affect the amount of intramuscular fat and flesh colour, but plays no
> part in tenderness or taste. The more important factors are age, sex and
> slaughter process. A Danish article reported that, while beef breeds
> generally produce better meat than dairy breeds, the comparison may not
> be valid because beef cattle are usually slaughtered with optimum
> methods for quality meat while less care is taken with dairy cattle.


I have plenty of relatives who live in dairy regions. They are mostly
farm construction workers not dairy farmers, but their freezers are
usually filled with inexpensive beef from slaughtered dairy cows.

I remember the beef from dairy cows was delicious but tough. My
relatives ate almost all of their beef well done, slow cooked, wet
cooked. Thin sliced or chunky in stews. If quality is flavor, the
dairy cattle I ate are better quality. If quality is tenderness, the
dairy cattle I ate are far worse quality. But when is a beef cow
slaughtered and when is a dairy cow slaughtered?

The beef cow is slaughtered at the best time for a combination of price
efficiency to amount of beef, tenderness of beef, flavor of beef. The
dairy cow is slaughtered when it's milk production has dropped and/or it
is no longer producing a calf every spring. They were fed very similar
feed. They had overlapping percentages of pasture versus stall time.
They had dramatically different ages and treatment during their lives.
The result is the meat of dairy cows is delicious, tough, and an
economic incidental compared to the milk production.

Breed difference - In recent decades most of the dairy cattle I have
seen have been Holsteins. I prefer the milk from Gurnseys but I
understand they are several percent less efficient at milk production.
I've seen a lot of stockyards filled with beef cattle, but I grew up in
the city with country relatives in dairy regions so I don't know beef
cattle breeds at sight. I understand that Harris Ranch in central
California specializes in Angus. The place is *huge* and you can smell
it for tens of miles.
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Old 11-11-2009, 07:26 AM
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:40:13 -0500, "JonquilJan" <ward39@imcnet.net> wrote:

>
>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rod...Out Back (Who's slowly working his way though about 500 lbs of
>> home-killed
>> Charbray steer in the freezer..)
>>
>>
>> For a round-up of the pics I have taken the past 24 months,
>> take a look at:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/rod_outback/
>>
>> -------

>
>Rod - brought up your web site of photos. You are quite the picture taker!
>Enjoying the wildlife and scenery.
>
>JonquilJan
>
>Learn something new every day
>As long as you are learning, you are living
>When you stop learning, you start dying
>


JonquilJan,

Many thanks; Glad you enjoyed looking at them.

Cheers,

Rod.

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Rod - Out back
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Old 11-11-2009, 07:44 PM
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"Andy" <a@b.c> wrote in message news:Xns9CBC648BF8918Cotd@216.196.97.131...
> "Kswck" <kswck@optonline.net> wrote in
> news:4af58219$0$5020$607ed4bc@cv.net:
>
>>
>> "Andy" <a@b.c> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9CBC52FAF794Cotd@216.196.97.131...
>>> What class is Angus beef?
>>>
>>> Prime, Choice, etc?
>>>
>>> It sounds so "upper crust," but for some reason, I'm not sold on the
>>> term. Could be my brother Angus' cow meat.
>>>
>>> Is it a steer limited to a region?
>>>
>>> "The problem with Angus"
>>>
>>> Andy

>>
>> http://jacksonfrozenfoods.bizland.co...ity_grades.htm

>
>
> Kswck,
>
> Right!
>
> I was just curious about Angus, also Kobe and other beef nonsense (not
> that it is!).
>
> Is Angus worth paying more for?
>
> That kind of thinking.
>
> Best,
>
> Andy


Is it worth it? Depends on your preference. IT does cost more.


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Old 11-14-2009, 11:54 PM
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Rod Out back wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:40:13 -0500, "JonquilJan" <ward39@imcnet.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Rod...Out Back (Who's slowly working his way though about 500 lbs of
>>> home-killed
>>> Charbray steer in the freezer..)
>>>
>>>
>>> For a round-up of the pics I have taken the past 24 months,
>>> take a look at:
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/rod_outback/
>>>
>>> -------



Beautiful, Rod. There's so much more to see in Australia other
than Sydney, The Reef and Ayers Rock! If only it wasn't such a
LONG flight....

gloria p
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Old 11-15-2009, 05:04 AM
Rod Out back
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On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:54:45 -0700, "gloria.p" <gpuester@comcast.net> wrote:

>Rod Out back wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:40:13 -0500, "JonquilJan" <ward39@imcnet.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Rod...Out Back (Who's slowly working his way though about 500 lbs of
>>>> home-killed
>>>> Charbray steer in the freezer..)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For a round-up of the pics I have taken the past 24 months,
>>>> take a look at:
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/rod_outback/
>>>>
>>>> -------

>
>
>Beautiful, Rod. There's so much more to see in Australia other
>than Sydney, The Reef and Ayers Rock! If only it wasn't such a
>LONG flight....
>
>gloria p



Thanks, Gloria; Glad you liked them.

Yes, the flight is a bit of a long one, and unfortunately, you will spend a
large amount of time simply getting to the less travelled parts of Australia.

Thanks again,

Rod.

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