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  1. #41
    Janet Bostwick Guest

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    On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 22:35:27 -0400, "Somebody" <[email protected]>
    wrote:
    snip
    >
    >The GM Sisyphus. You park it at the top of a hill across from another, put
    >a round rock in front (the energy storage device) and then let it roll back
    >and forth until fully charged.
    >

    I like that one a lot. Perfect for San Francisco.
    Janet US

  2. #42
    Sqwertz Guest

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    On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 19:20:30 -0700, sf wrote:

    > Hey, I'm the idea person. It's up to somebody else to make it work.


    Next up: Hamster Wheel Power.

    Hmmm, that actually has more potential than car wind power. Given
    enough hamsters. At least you wouldn't have to worry about tail
    winds.

    -sw

  3. #43
    sf Guest

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    On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 22:35:27 -0400, "Somebody" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    > The GM Sisyphus. You park it at the top of a hill across from another, put
    > a round rock in front (the energy storage device) and then let it roll back
    > and forth until fully charged.
    >

    A hand crank and rubber band would be more efficient.

    --
    I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

  4. #44
    sf Guest

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    On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 21:10:18 -0600, Janet Bostwick
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 22:35:27 -0400, "Somebody" <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    > snip
    > >
    > >The GM Sisyphus. You park it at the top of a hill across from another, put
    > >a round rock in front (the energy storage device) and then let it roll back
    > >and forth until fully charged.
    > >

    > I like that one a lot. Perfect for San Francisco.


    We don't need that. All we'd need to do is have it pointing downhill
    and let it go.

    --
    I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

  5. #45
    sf Guest

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    On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 16:44:40 -1000, dsi1
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On 9/25/2012 7:38 AM, Michael Kuettner wrote:
    > > "sf" wrote :
    > >
    > >> merryb wrote:

    > >
    > >>> Maybe she is thinking of windmill powered battery chargers?

    > >
    > >> No, I'm saying that once the car is in motion the air is in motion at
    > >> the front of the car and it = wind. It's a new idea that he's too
    > >> stupid to understand.

    > >
    > > She really is serious and too dumb to find her ass with a map.
    > > However, if teachers in the USA are that brain-dead, it certainly
    > > explains creationism.
    > > I still hope she's the exception, not the rule.
    > >
    > > Cheers,
    > >
    > > Michael Kuettner
    > >
    > > PS : Look up TANSTAAFL, you "education consultant"
    > >

    >
    > If you're saying that wind-powered vehicles can't can go faster that the
    > wind you'd probably be wrong.
    >
    > http://www.bbc.com/future/story/2012...eath-my-wheels
    >


    Have I said lately that he's just an unhappy and very bitter windbag
    who is constantly trying to prove his own worth?

    --
    I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

  6. #46
    dsi1 Guest

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    On 9/25/2012 5:32 PM, sf wrote:
    > On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 16:44:40 -1000, dsi1
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> On 9/25/2012 7:38 AM, Michael Kuettner wrote:
    >>> "sf" wrote :
    >>>
    >>>> merryb wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>> Maybe she is thinking of windmill powered battery chargers?
    >>>
    >>>> No, I'm saying that once the car is in motion the air is in motion at
    >>>> the front of the car and it = wind. It's a new idea that he's too
    >>>> stupid to understand.
    >>>
    >>> She really is serious and too dumb to find her ass with a map.
    >>> However, if teachers in the USA are that brain-dead, it certainly
    >>> explains creationism.
    >>> I still hope she's the exception, not the rule.
    >>>
    >>> Cheers,
    >>>
    >>> Michael Kuettner
    >>>
    >>> PS : Look up TANSTAAFL, you "education consultant"
    >>>

    >>
    >> If you're saying that wind-powered vehicles can't can go faster that the
    >> wind you'd probably be wrong.
    >>
    >> http://www.bbc.com/future/story/2012...eath-my-wheels
    >>

    >
    > Have I said lately that he's just an unhappy and very bitter windbag
    > who is constantly trying to prove his own worth?
    >


    I'm not allowed to talk about other people in my posts but no, I don't
    believe you've said that one, unless you're counting this post in which
    case, the answer is affirmative.

  7. #47
    David Harmon Guest

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    On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 06:45:36 -0700 in rec.food.cooking, sf
    <[email protected]> wrote,
    >Absolutely not! It seems like our resident know-it-alls have never
    >played with a pinwheel. Haven't you guys ever ridden in a convertible
    >or put a body part out the window of a moving car? I said initially
    >that the car would need a small battery to get it in motion - but it
    >won't need any reserve energy after because it will produce energy as
    >soon as it starts moving.


    You flunked high school physics, didn't you?

    The pinwheel or windmill can recapture some energy, yes, but never
    as much as it takes to keep the car moving.

  8. #48
    Somebody Guest

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    "Janet Bostwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news[email protected]..
    > On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 22:35:27 -0400, "Somebody" <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    > snip
    >>
    >>The GM Sisyphus. You park it at the top of a hill across from another,
    >>put
    >>a round rock in front (the energy storage device) and then let it roll
    >>back
    >>and forth until fully charged.
    >>

    > I like that one a lot. Perfect for San Francisco.
    > Janet US



    True. The market for it in Indiana would be pretty flat.



  9. #49
    Somebody Guest

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    "sf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 22:35:27 -0400, "Somebody" <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> The GM Sisyphus. You park it at the top of a hill across from another,
    >> put
    >> a round rock in front (the energy storage device) and then let it roll
    >> back
    >> and forth until fully charged.
    >>

    > A hand crank and rubber band would be more efficient.



    I have a hand crank emergency radio with light. It's great when the power
    goes out.



  10. #50
    sf Guest

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    On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 02:35:13 -0700, David Harmon <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    > On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 06:45:36 -0700 in rec.food.cooking, sf
    > <[email protected]> wrote,
    > >Absolutely not! It seems like our resident know-it-alls have never
    > >played with a pinwheel. Haven't you guys ever ridden in a convertible
    > >or put a body part out the window of a moving car? I said initially
    > >that the car would need a small battery to get it in motion - but it
    > >won't need any reserve energy after because it will produce energy as
    > >soon as it starts moving.

    >
    > You flunked high school physics, didn't you?
    >
    > The pinwheel or windmill can recapture some energy, yes, but never
    > as much as it takes to keep the car moving.


    Pfffft. Negative people have said lots of things couldn't be done.
    Think positive for a change.

    --
    I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

  11. #51
    sf Guest

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    On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 18:13:26 -1000, dsi1
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On 9/25/2012 5:32 PM, sf wrote:
    > > On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 16:44:40 -1000, dsi1
    > > <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >> On 9/25/2012 7:38 AM, Michael Kuettner wrote:
    > >>> "sf" wrote :
    > >>>
    > >>>> merryb wrote:
    > >>>
    > >>>>> Maybe she is thinking of windmill powered battery chargers?
    > >>>
    > >>>> No, I'm saying that once the car is in motion the air is in motion at
    > >>>> the front of the car and it = wind. It's a new idea that he's too
    > >>>> stupid to understand.
    > >>>
    > >>> She really is serious and too dumb to find her ass with a map.
    > >>> However, if teachers in the USA are that brain-dead, it certainly
    > >>> explains creationism.
    > >>> I still hope she's the exception, not the rule.
    > >>>
    > >>> Cheers,
    > >>>
    > >>> Michael Kuettner
    > >>>
    > >>> PS : Look up TANSTAAFL, you "education consultant"
    > >>>
    > >>
    > >> If you're saying that wind-powered vehicles can't can go faster that the
    > >> wind you'd probably be wrong.
    > >>
    > >> http://www.bbc.com/future/story/2012...eath-my-wheels
    > >>

    > >
    > > Have I said lately that he's just an unhappy and very bitter windbag
    > > who is constantly trying to prove his own worth?
    > >

    >
    > I'm not allowed to talk about other people in my posts but no, I don't
    > believe you've said that one, unless you're counting this post in which
    > case, the answer is affirmative.


    You're right on both counts.

    --
    I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

  12. #52
    Janet Bostwick Guest

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    On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:16:09 -0400, "Somebody" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >"Janet Bostwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news[email protected]..
    >> On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 22:35:27 -0400, "Somebody" <[email protected]>
    >> wrote:
    >> snip
    >>>
    >>>The GM Sisyphus. You park it at the top of a hill across from another,
    >>>put
    >>>a round rock in front (the energy storage device) and then let it roll
    >>>back
    >>>and forth until fully charged.
    >>>

    >> I like that one a lot. Perfect for San Francisco.
    >> Janet US

    >
    >
    >True. The market for it in Indiana would be pretty flat.
    >

    O.k., you get the spilled coffee award for that one. ;o)
    Janet US

  13. #53
    Nunya Bidnits Guest

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    Michael Kuettner <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    > Now go to an USAn group for some comfort. But THIS HERE is
    > an INTERNATIONAL group, you dumb Yankee.


    So what does that prove, that you're an international asshole?

    Well played. [snicker]





  14. #54
    Bryan Guest

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    On Sep 26, 8:17*am, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
    > On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 02:35:13 -0700, David Harmon <sou...@netcom.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    > > On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 06:45:36 -0700 in rec.food.cooking, sf
    > > <s...@geemail.com> wrote,
    > > >Absolutely not! *It seems like our resident know-it-alls have never
    > > >played with a pinwheel. *Haven't you guys ever ridden in a convertible
    > > >or put a body part out the window of a moving car? *I said initially
    > > >that the car would need a small battery to get it in motion - but it
    > > >won't need any reserve energy after because it will produce energy as
    > > >soon as it starts moving.

    >
    > > You flunked high school physics, didn't you?

    >
    > > The pinwheel or windmill can recapture some energy, yes, but never
    > > as much as it takes to keep the car moving.

    >
    > Pfffft. *Negative people have said lots of things couldn't be done.
    > Think positive for a change.
    >

    David was 100% correct. Anyone who doesn't know that is a moron. I
    assumed sf was joking until I read the whole thread.

    --Bryan

  15. #55
    notbob Guest

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    On 2012-09-24, Janet Bostwick <[email protected]> wrote:

    > In the mix are cookies, gummy worms, marshmallows, fruit loops, orange
    > peels, even dried cranberries.


    IOW, pretty much anything EXCEPT! what cattle eat naturally, which is
    grass. I notice the first four items on the above list are heavy HFCS
    products. Poor cows. Even I won't eat gummy-thingies. (shudder)

    I will be making my first Winter stew, tonight. Grass fed beef and
    all organic veggies. Recipes welcome, even non-organic ones.

    nb

    --
    Definition of objectivism:
    "Eff you! I got mine."
    http://www.nongmoproject.org/

  16. #56
    Doug Freyburger Guest

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    sf wrote:
    > "Somebody" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Politicians seem able to violate most of the laws of thermodynamics.

    >
    > They're also a cheap source of hot air.


    The politicians are cheap on your planet? I want to move to that planet.

  17. #57
    Michael Kuettner Guest

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    "dsi1" wrote :

    And another one with a short attention span ...

    I'll cite the original claim from "sf" :

    ------------------------- begin quote --------------------------------
    > Of course we need better sources of energy. I vote for "wind powered"
    > vehicles. They would need to have a small battery that would serve as
    > start up power. Then they produce their own wind after they are in
    > motion. Simple and efficient. Unfortunately, there would be
    > absolutely NO R&D money other than auto manufacturers (who are deep in
    > the pocket of fossil fuel companies) because no energy producers will
    > ever be able to make a profit off it.

    ---------------------- end quote ----------------------------------------

    <and snip>

    > If you're saying that wind-powered vehicles can't can go faster that the
    > wind you'd probably be wrong.


    Read the above again. Scratch your head (or don't, if you were "educated"
    by Barbara ...).

    > http://www.bbc.com/future/story/2012...eath-my-wheels


    Ah, that produces its own wind ?
    Yes, scroll up and read her claim.

    > If you're talking about the mid-day meal, you'd be wrong too. Somebody
    > walked into my office and handed me lunch today. It's embarrassing but
    > that's what they like to do. I always act surprised and say "what it
    > this???" :-)


    They know of your attention span deficit and don't want you to starve ?

    Cheers,

    Michael Kuettner



  18. #58
    Somebody Guest

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    "sf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..

    > Pfffft. Negative people have said lots of things couldn't be done.
    > Think positive for a change.



    They said Neil Armstrong couldn't fly to the moon with a helium balloon.
    But he got to the moon, didn't he?



  19. #59
    dsi1 Guest

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    On 9/26/2012 8:04 AM, Michael Kuettner wrote:
    >
    >
    > "dsi1" wrote :
    >
    >> If you're saying that wind-powered vehicles can't can go faster that
    >> the wind you'd probably be wrong.

    >
    > Read the above again. Scratch your head (or don't, if you were "educated"
    > by Barbara ...).


    I'm not concerned with what other people say nor do I talk about others
    in the third person. You must have a problem with paying attention too.

    Cheers!


  20. #60
    Boron Elgar Guest

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    On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 14:34:08 -0400, "Somebody" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >"sf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]. .
    >
    >> Pfffft. Negative people have said lots of things couldn't be done.
    >> Think positive for a change.

    >
    >
    >They said Neil Armstrong couldn't fly to the moon with a helium balloon.
    >But he got to the moon, didn't he?
    >


    Wind power.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQGvXx4rfUY

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