Thread: Wedgwood - Waterford in trouble

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090105/...ain_waterford_...
>
> LONDON - Waterford Wedgwood PLC, the maker of classic china
> and crystal, filed for bankruptcy protection on Monday after attempts
> to restructure the struggling business or find a buyer failed.


People don't buy those products anymore, not since the advent of fast
food... for years now folks have been conditioned to thinking fine
dining acootiements are made of styrofoam, and the closest thing to
fine crystal is saran wrap.

I just spent the last few days researching which handheld showerhead
to buy, today they're all plastic, thin crappy plastic. I had a
Teledyne Waterpic showerhead for some 20 years and finally it cracked
and sprung a leak I couldn't repair even with Gorilla Glue. So
naturally I ordered a new one... well, the plastic is now so thin it
weighs no more than an egg shell, and the fittings are thin crappy
plastic too (the fittings on the old one are solid brass with real
chrome plating). I can buy a solid brass showerhead but not a hand-
held type, those are all made entirely of crappy thin plastic. And
when I phoned the various manufacturers their customer service
personel become all huffy when I voiced my displeasure about how their
products are now plastic.. in fact they argued with me that their
products are "chrome"... they are not chrome, they are made of plastic
and coated with a plastic film that looks like chrome. Anyway I ended
up ordering this, in hopes it can be installed and not leak like the
Waterpic: http://tinyurl.com/8xdvfd

http://www.amazon.com/Delta-75580-In...1008970&sr=1-2

But now getting back to Waterford... I have (had) one of their crystal
picture frames... the glass part is fine but the easel insert that
holds the picure in and props up the whole deal after some 20 years
finally gave way... remember those black shoelaces I got from the
dollar store, my attempt to repair the frame backing. Well I called
Waterford to find out how I could buy a new insert (it's just a
cardboard thingie with swivel clips that hold it to the glass and the
hinged support), I figured how much could it cost, wrong thinking,
it's not available at any price... the anwser I got from Waterford's
customer service is that essentially I'd have to toss the entire thing
and buy new... and she was so surly, not at all helpful or apologetic,
in fact she actually told me that I used it for twenty years, wasn't
that enough? duh. I will never again buy Waterford, and I suppose now
neither will anyone else... they deserve to have failed. Right after
that conversation with Waterford's cutomer service (no service) I
tossed the entire crystal frame in the trash... the photo is now in a
simple inexpensive wood frame I think made in the Philippines, and I
like it better than that bulky grotesque hunk of way over priced
bottle glass

I firmly believe this is the reason why so many companies are failing,
they don't give a crap about their customers, and the greedy bastards
have cheapened their products to the point that they are not fit for
their intended use. I have no pity for the miserable creeps going
kaput, good riddance to bad rubbish. Folks will never miss Waterford.

Sheldon wrote:
> "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090105/...ain_waterford_...
>>
>> LONDON - Waterford Wedgwood PLC, the maker of classic china
>> and crystal, filed for bankruptcy protection on Monday after attempts
>> to restructure the struggling business or find a buyer failed.
>
>
> People don't buy those products anymore, not since the advent of fast
> food... for years now folks have been conditioned to thinking fine
> dining acootiements are made of styrofoam, and the closest thing to
> fine crystal is saran wrap.
>
> I just spent the last few days researching which handheld showerhead
> to buy, today they're all plastic, thin crappy plastic. I had a
> Teledyne Waterpic showerhead for some 20 years and finally it cracked
> and sprung a leak I couldn't repair even with Gorilla Glue. So
> naturally I ordered a new one... well, the plastic is now so thin it
> weighs no more than an egg shell, and the fittings are thin crappy
> plastic too (the fittings on the old one are solid brass with real
> chrome plating). I can buy a solid brass showerhead but not a hand-
> held type, those are all made entirely of crappy thin plastic. And
> when I phoned the various manufacturers their customer service
> personel become all huffy when I voiced my displeasure about how their
> products are now plastic.. in fact they argued with me that their
> products are "chrome"... they are not chrome, they are made of plastic
> and coated with a plastic film that looks like chrome. Anyway I ended
> up ordering this, in hopes it can be installed and not leak like the
> Waterpic: http://tinyurl.com/8xdvfd
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Delta-75580-In...1008970&sr=1-2
>
> But now getting back to Waterford... I have (had) one of their crystal
> picture frames... the glass part is fine but the easel insert that
> holds the picure in and props up the whole deal after some 20 years
> finally gave way... remember those black shoelaces I got from the
> dollar store, my attempt to repair the frame backing. Well I called
> Waterford to find out how I could buy a new insert (it's just a
> cardboard thingie with swivel clips that hold it to the glass and the
> hinged support), I figured how much could it cost, wrong thinking,
> it's not available at any price... the anwser I got from Waterford's
> customer service is that essentially I'd have to toss the entire thing
> and buy new... and she was so surly, not at all helpful or apologetic,
> in fact she actually told me that I used it for twenty years, wasn't
> that enough? duh. I will never again buy Waterford, and I suppose now
> neither will anyone else... they deserve to have failed. Right after
> that conversation with Waterford's cutomer service (no service) I
> tossed the entire crystal frame in the trash... the photo is now in a
> simple inexpensive wood frame I think made in the Philippines, and I
> like it better than that bulky grotesque hunk of way over priced
> bottle glass
>
> I firmly believe this is the reason why so many companies are failing,
> they don't give a crap about their customers, and the greedy bastards
> have cheapened their products to the point that they are not fit for
> their intended use. I have no pity for the miserable creeps going
> kaput, good riddance to bad rubbish. Folks will never miss Waterford.
>
>
>
I find the original subject sad, but in general you have a VERY
good point.

--
Jean B.

On Jan 6, 11:28�am, "Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
> > "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:
> >>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090105/...ain_waterford_....
>
> >> LONDON - Waterford Wedgwood PLC, the maker of classic china
> >> and crystal, filed for bankruptcy protection on Monday after attempts
> >> to restructure the struggling business or find a buyer failed.
>
> > People don't buy those products anymore, not since the advent of fast
> > food... for years now folks have been conditioned to thinking fine
> > dining acootiements are made of styrofoam, and the closest thing to
> > fine crystal is saran wrap.
>
> > I just spent the last few days researching which handheld showerhead
> > to buy, today they're all plastic, thin crappy plastic. �I had a
> > Teledyne Waterpic showerhead for some 20 years and finally it cracked
> > and sprung a leak I couldn't repair even with Gorilla Glue. �So
> > naturally I ordered a new one... well, the plastic is now so thin it
> > weighs no more than an egg shell, and the fittings are thin crappy
> > plastic too (the fittings on the old one are solid brass with real
> > chrome plating). �I can buy a solid brass showerhead but not a hand-
> > held type, those are all made entirely of crappy thin plastic. �And
> > when I phoned the various manufacturers their customer service
> > personel become all huffy when I voiced my displeasure about how their
> > products are now plastic.. in fact they argued with me that their
> > products are "chrome"... they are not chrome, they are made of plastic
> > and coated with a plastic film that looks like chrome. �Anyway I ended
> > up ordering this, in hopes it can be installed and not leak like the
> > Waterpic: �http://tinyurl.com/8xdvfd
>
> >http://www.amazon.com/Delta-75580-In...hower/dp/B000L...
>
> > But now getting back to Waterford... I have (had) one of their crystal
> > picture frames... the glass part is fine but the easel insert that
> > holds the picure in and props up the whole deal after some 20 years
> > finally gave way... remember those black shoelaces I got from the
> > dollar store, my attempt to repair the frame backing. �Well I called
> > Waterford to find out how I could buy a new insert (it's just a
> > cardboard thingie with swivel clips that hold it to the glass and the
> > hinged support), � I figured how much could it cost, wrong thinking,
> > it's not available at any price... the anwser I got from Waterford's
> > customer service is that essentially I'd have to toss the entire thing
> > and buy new... and she was so surly, not at all helpful or apologetic,
> > in fact she actually told me that I used it for twenty years, wasn't
> > that enough? duh. �I will never again buy Waterford, and I suppose now
> > neither will anyone else... they deserve to have failed. �Rightafter
> > that conversation with Waterford's cutomer service (no service) I
> > tossed the entire crystal frame in the trash... the photo is now in a
> > simple inexpensive wood frame I think made in the Philippines, and I
> > like it better than that bulky grotesque hunk of way over priced
> > bottle glass
>
> > I firmly believe this is the reason why so many companies are failing,
> > they don't give a crap about their customers, and the greedy bastards
> > have cheapened their products to the point that they are not fit for
> > their intended use. �I have no pity for the miserable creeps going
> > kaput, good riddance to bad rubbish. �Folks will never miss Waterford.
>
> I find the original subject sad, but in general you have a VERY
> good point.

No one needs Waterford crystal. The picture frame was a gift, I would
never buy such a thing. By not selling the backings Waterford gave me
the perfect excuse to dispose of that grotesque glass frame... I was
tired of wasting Windex on it.

Wedgewood's design went to the dogs when they were taken over by/merged with
Waterford. Suddenly they became blandsville. I love china, but I would be
hard pressed to find a newer pattern of theirs that would interest me.

Waterford still makes great stuff, but they also make the cheaper, bland
stuff with no character.

In general, leaning in the direction of bland design with little or no
handwork, along the lines of Mikasa, Lenox, and the like.

"Jean B." <[email protected]> news:[email protected]: in
rec.food.cooking

> Sheldon wrote:
>> "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090105/...ain_waterford_
>>> ...
>>>
>>> LONDON - Waterford Wedgwood PLC, the maker of classic china
>>> and crystal, filed for bankruptcy protection on Monday after
>>> attempts to restructure the struggling business or find a buyer
>>> failed.

<snip for space>

>> People don't buy those products anymore, not since the advent of fast
>> food... for years now folks have been conditioned to thinking fine
>> dining acootiements are made of styrofoam, and the closest thing to
>> fine crystal is saran wrap.

Oh yes they do buy it. Lots of it. People are sucked in by the name of
"Waterford". I worked for The Irish Crystal Company part time for well
over a year. It was a real neat experience. I learned much about the
crystal trade. I learned a great deal about the manufacture process as
well.

<snip shower head horror story for space and story about nasty Waterford
CS rep>

>> I will never again buy Waterford,
>> and I suppose now neither will anyone else... they deserve to have
>> failed. Right after that conversation with Waterford's cutomer
>> service (no service) I tossed the entire crystal frame in the
>> trash... the photo is now in a simple inexpensive wood frame I think
>> made in the Philippines, and I like it better than that bulky
>> grotesque hunk of way over priced bottle glass
>>
>> I firmly believe this is the reason why so many companies are
>> failing, they don't give a crap about their customers, and the greedy
>> bastards have cheapened their products to the point that they are not
>> fit for their intended use. I have no pity for the miserable creeps
>> going kaput, good riddance to bad rubbish. Folks will never miss
>> Waterford.
>>
>>
>>
> I find the original subject sad, but in general you have a VERY
> good point.

Sheldon has an excellent point. More than excellent actually. I don't
recall the exact year but Waterford went through reorganization back in
the late 70s or early 80s. They had a severe financial crunch. They laid
off many of their craftsmen who in turn, started their own company called
Heritage Crystal. In order to expandand and stay profitable, Waterford
decided to minimize their craftsmanship and go to machine made crystal.
This was the beginning of their demise IMO. When you pick up a piece of
Waterford look on the box where it was made. You'll find many of the
items are made in places like Belgravia etc. These are all machine made
products. None of these items are hand blown by the craftsmen in
Ireland. I'm not even sure some of the items marked made in Ireland are
hand blown. Waterford then decided to diversify into other areas. They
are making Xmas ornaments and a lot of other items. Machine made. At
that point, Waterford was a household name and that is what was allowing
them to hang on. Waterford's product has been cheapened to the point of
no return. You'll be paying for the name of Waterford and certainly not
the quality of the item. I suspect you'll be seeing Waterford in
discount stores soon. Much like the Martha Stewart line. Although the
circumstances for the Stewart line are much different than the Waterford
line will be.

Heritage has always been superior crystal IMO. It is all still hand
blown and quite beautiful. Of course they don't have the millions of
different items Waterford put out but when you buy Heritage you're buying
an heirloom piece. Heritage has not tried to become a household name. At
least not yet. When you look at comparable pieces of Waterford and
Heritage you can tell the difference. There are a few Waterford lines
out there that are still hand blown and still quite nice. These items I
give as gifts on occassion. Looks like it'll be Heritage from now on.

Michael
--
“He who does not understand your silence will probably not understand
your words.”
~Elbert Hubbard

You can find me at: - michael at lonergan dot us dot com

Janet wrote on Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:06:12 -0500:

> Waterford still makes great stuff, but they also make the
> cheaper, bland stuff with no character.

We received a full set of Wedgewood china as a wedding present many
years ago. It was the shapes of the pieces that were attractive not the
patterns and my mother bought unpatterned pieces as we requested. She
was a bit disappointed, I think, but my daughter chose a restrained
blue and gold pattern when her turn came. I don't remember the name.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

Sheldon wrote:
> No one needs Waterford crystal. The picture frame was a gift, I would
> never buy such a thing. By not selling the backings Waterford gave me
> the perfect excuse to dispose of that grotesque glass frame... I was
> tired of wasting Windex on it.

True enough. But that is a lot of tradition potentially ending.
Thus is life, I guess.

Oh, I just remembered someone who fed his/her cat in crystal
bowl. That sounded kind-of cute.

--
Jean B.

"Jean B." <[email protected]> news:[email protected]: in
rec.food.cooking

>
> Oh, I just remembered someone who fed his/her cat in crystal
> bowl. That sounded kind-of cute.

All 4 of my cats line up at precisely 9pm for their evening snack, of
exactly 5 pieces each, of Feline Greenies every night. They get their
snacks in faux crystal bowls ;-) I bought 'em at Target. You can put them
in the dishwasher.

Michael

--
“He who does not understand your silence will probably not understand your
words.”
~Elbert Hubbard

You can find me at: - michael at lonergan dot us dot com

On Jan 6, 10:35*am, Sheldon <PENMAR...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jan 6, 11:28 am, "Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Sheldon wrote:
> > > "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:
> > >>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090105/...ain_waterford_....
>
> > >> LONDON - Waterford Wedgwood PLC, the maker of classic china
> > >> and crystal, filed for bankruptcy protection on Monday after attempts
> > >> to restructure the struggling business or find a buyer failed.
>
> > > People don't buy those products anymore, not since the advent of fast
> > > food... for years now folks have been conditioned to thinking fine
> > > dining acootiements are made of styrofoam, and the closest thing to
> > > fine crystal is saran wrap.
>
> > > I just spent the last few days researching which handheld showerhead
> > > to buy, today they're all plastic, thin crappy plastic. I had a
> > > Teledyne Waterpic showerhead for some 20 years and finally it cracked
> > > and sprung a leak I couldn't repair even with Gorilla Glue. So
> > > naturally I ordered a new one... well, the plastic is now so thin it
> > > weighs no more than an egg shell, and the fittings are thin crappy
> > > plastic too (the fittings on the old one are solid brass with real
> > > chrome plating). I can buy a solid brass showerhead but not a hand-
> > > held type, those are all made entirely of crappy thin plastic. And
> > > when I phoned the various manufacturers their customer service
> > > personel become all huffy when I voiced my displeasure about how their
> > > products are now plastic.. in fact they argued with me that their
> > > products are "chrome"... they are not chrome, they are made of plastic
> > > and coated with a plastic film that looks like chrome. Anyway I ended
> > > up ordering this, in hopes it can be installed and not leak like the
> > > Waterpic:http://tinyurl.com/8xdvfd
>
> > >http://www.amazon.com/Delta-75580-In...hower/dp/B000L....
>
> > > But now getting back to Waterford... I have (had) one of their crystal
> > > picture frames... the glass part is fine but the easel insert that
> > > holds the picure in and props up the whole deal after some 20 years
> > > finally gave way... remember those black shoelaces I got from the
> > > dollar store, my attempt to repair the frame backing. Well I called
> > > Waterford to find out how I could buy a new insert (it's just a
> > > cardboard thingie with swivel clips that hold it to the glass and the
> > > hinged support), I figured how much could it cost, wrong thinking,
> > > it's not available at any price... the anwser I got from Waterford's
> > > customer service is that essentially I'd have to toss the entire thing
> > > and buy new... and she was so surly, not at all helpful or apologetic,
> > > in fact she actually told me that I used it for twenty years, wasn't
> > > that enough? duh. I will never again buy Waterford, and I suppose now
> > > neither will anyone else... they deserve to have failed. Right after
> > > that conversation with Waterford's cutomer service (no service) I
> > > tossed the entire crystal frame in the trash... the photo is now in a
> > > simple inexpensive wood frame I think made in the Philippines, and I
> > > like it better than that bulky grotesque hunk of way over priced
> > > bottle glass
>
> > > I firmly believe this is the reason why so many companies are failing,
> > > they don't give a crap about their customers, and the greedy bastards
> > > have cheapened their products to the point that they are not fit for
> > > their intended use. I have no pity for the miserable creeps going
> > > kaput, good riddance to bad rubbish. Folks will never miss Waterford.
>
> > I find the original subject sad, but in general you have a VERY
> > good point.
>
> No one needs Waterford crystal. *The picture frame was a gift, I would
> never buy such a thing. *By not selling the backings Waterford gave me
> the perfect excuse to dispose of that grotesque glass frame... I was
> tired of wasting Windex on it.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You could have cut a new piece of cardboard to fit and then used clear
caulk or hot glue to fasten it - permanently, yes, but it would have
worked. You could have put a picture of your favoritist kitty in it,
for all time. An easel back isn't that hard to make.

N.

> the quality of the item. *I suspect you'll be seeing Waterford in
> discount stores soon. *Much like the Martha Stewart line. Although the
> circumstances for the Stewart line are much different than the Waterford
> line will be.
>
text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Actually, Martha isn't so discounted in some things - I like some of
her table lamps (I'm shopping for new ones) and they run upwards of
$300, and the designs are very clean and simple.

N.

Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> "Jean B." <[email protected]> news:6s[email protected]: in
> rec.food.cooking
>
>> Oh, I just remembered someone who fed his/her cat in crystal
>> bowl. That sounded kind-of cute.
>
> All 4 of my cats line up at precisely 9pm for their evening snack, of
> exactly 5 pieces each, of Feline Greenies every night. They get their
> snacks in faux crystal bowls ;-) I bought 'em at Target. You can put them
> in the dishwasher.
>
> Michael
>
LOL! That sounds so cute--and the cats are so deserving of crystal!

--
Jean B.

On Jan 6, 12:20�pm, "Michael \"Dog3\"" <don't...@donttell.huh> wrote:
> "Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> �news:[email protected]:in
> rec.food.cooking
>
> > Sheldon wrote:
> >> "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:
> >>>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090105/...ain_waterford_
> >>> ...
>
> >>> LONDON - Waterford Wedgwood PLC, the maker of classic china
> >>> and crystal, filed for bankruptcy protection on Monday after
> >>> attempts to restructure the struggling business or find a buyer
> >>> failed.
>
> <snip for space>
>
> >> People don't buy those products anymore, not since the advent of fast
> >> food... for years now folks have been conditioned to thinking fine
> >> dining acootiements are made of styrofoam, and the closest thing to
> >> fine crystal is saran wrap.
>
> Oh yes they do buy it. �Lots of it. People are sucked in by the name of
> "Waterford". �I worked for The Irish Crystal Company part time for well
> over a year. �It was a real neat experience. I learned much aboutthe
> crystal trade. I learned a great deal about the manufacture process as
> well.
>
> <snip shower head horror story for space and story about nasty Waterford
> CS rep>
>
>
>
>
>
> >> I will never again buy Waterford,
> >> and I suppose now neither will anyone else... they deserve to have
> >> failed. �Right after that conversation with Waterford's cutomer
> >> service (no service) I tossed the entire crystal frame in the
> >> trash... the photo is now in a simple inexpensive wood frame I think
> >> made in the Philippines, and I like it better than that bulky
> >> grotesque hunk of way over priced bottle glass
>
> >> I firmly believe this is the reason why so many companies are
> >> failing, they don't give a crap about their customers, and the greedy
> >> bastards have cheapened their products to the point that they are not
> >> fit for their intended use. �I have no pity for the miserable creeps
> >> going kaput, good riddance to bad rubbish. �Folks will never miss
> >> Waterford.
>
> > I find the original subject sad, but in general you have a VERY
> > good point.
>
> Sheldon has an excellent point. More than excellent actually. �I don't
> recall the exact year but Waterford went through reorganization back in
> the late 70s or early 80s. They had a severe financial crunch. �They laid
> off many of their craftsmen who in turn, started their own company called
> Heritage Crystal. In order to expandand and stay profitable, Waterford
> decided to minimize their craftsmanship and go to machine made crystal.
> This was the beginning of their demise IMO. �When you pick up a piece of
> Waterford look on the box where it was made. You'll find many of the
> items are made in places like Belgravia etc. �These are all machine made
> products. �None of these items are hand blown by the craftsmen in
> Ireland. I'm not even sure some of the items marked made in Ireland are
> hand blown. �Waterford then decided to diversify into other areas.. �They
> are making Xmas ornaments and a lot of other items. �Machine made.. �At
> that point, Waterford was a household name and that is what was allowing
> them to hang on. �Waterford's product has been cheapened to the point of
> no return. You'll be paying for the name of Waterford and certainly not
> the quality of the item. �I suspect you'll be seeing Waterford in
> discount stores soon. �Much like the Martha Stewart line. Although the
> circumstances for the Stewart line are much different than the Waterford
> line will be.
>
> Heritage has always been superior crystal IMO. �It is all still hand
> blown and quite beautiful. �Of course they don't have the millions of
> different items Waterford put out but when you buy Heritage you're buying
> an heirloom piece. Heritage has not tried to become a household name. At
> least not yet. �When you look at comparable pieces of Waterford and
> Heritage you can tell the difference. �There are a few Waterford lines
> out there that are still hand blown and still quite nice. �These items I
> give as gifts on occassion. �Looks like it'll be Heritage from now on.
>
> Michael

Nowhere on the picture frame was it engraved with any identifying
marks, only way I knew it was a Waterford product (doesn't mean they
made it) is because I kept the box... in fact I at first had forgotten
what brand it was. All my Lalique pieces are engraved with their name
and serial number. I have many very nice crystal pieces of all types
from barware to candy dishes to vases to whimsical artworks. But the
entire crystal industry has been in decline ever since it was
ascertained that lead is a big health problem. I no longer use my
leaded crystal glassware and decanters, and neither should any of
yoose.

Michael "Dog3" wrote:

> All 4 of my cats line up at precisely 9pm for their evening snack, of
> exactly 5 pieces each, of Feline Greenies every night. They get their
> snacks in faux crystal bowls ;-) I bought 'em at Target. You can put them
> in the dishwasher.
>
> Michael

Mine will line up for their treats, too. And they say you can't train cats.

My cats are picky about their treats though. A cat will lick it's own
ass, but it will not even taste a treat that I paid $2 for.

Becca

On Tue 06 Jan 2009 10:26:16a, Jean B. told us...

> Sheldon wrote:
>> No one needs Waterford crystal. The picture frame was a gift, I would
>> never buy such a thing. By not selling the backings Waterford gave me
>> the perfect excuse to dispose of that grotesque glass frame... I was
>> tired of wasting Windex on it.
>
> True enough. But that is a lot of tradition potentially ending.
> Thus is life, I guess.
>
> Oh, I just remembered someone who fed his/her cat in crystal
> bowl. That sounded kind-of cute.
>

I'm glad I bought all of my good china and crystal in the 1960s.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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"Jean B." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Oh, I just remembered someone who fed his/her cat in crystal bowl. That
> sounded kind-of cute.
>
> --
> Jean B.

Royal Doulton has a dog food bowl. In their outlet store it was $40. I
never paid that much for a dog, let alone a bowl.

"Sheldon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> But the
> entire crystal industry has been in decline ever since it was
> ascertained that lead is a big health problem. I no longer use my
> leaded crystal glassware and decanters, and neither should any of
> yoose.

I no longer use the decanter as the liqour could sit in there for long
periods sucking up lead. I still use the glassware since it is not very
often and the liquid is only in there a short time. My last house had a
lead water main from when it was build in the late 1940's. Still there when
we sold it in 1981..

"Ed Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
newsCR8l.16997$[email protected]..
>
> "Sheldon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> But the
>> entire crystal industry has been in decline ever since it was
>> ascertained that lead is a big health problem. I no longer use my
>> leaded crystal glassware and decanters, and neither should any of
>> yoose.
>
> I no longer use the decanter as the liqour could sit in there for long
> periods sucking up lead. I still use the glassware since it is not very
> often and the liquid is only in there a short time. My last house had a
> lead water main from when it was build in the late 1940's. Still there
> when we sold it in 1981..
>

We still use our Waterford stemware for the reasons you mentioned. IIRC
when the warning came out about leaded crystal the recommendation was not to
store liquors and liqueurs in decanters.

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Tue 06 Jan 2009 10:26:16a, Jean B. told us...
>
>> Sheldon wrote:
>>> No one needs Waterford crystal. The picture frame was a gift, I would
>>> never buy such a thing. By not selling the backings Waterford gave me
>>> the perfect excuse to dispose of that grotesque glass frame... I was
>>> tired of wasting Windex on it.
>> True enough. But that is a lot of tradition potentially ending.
>> Thus is life, I guess.
>>
>> Oh, I just remembered someone who fed his/her cat in crystal
>> bowl. That sounded kind-of cute.
>>
>
> I'm glad I bought all of my good china and crystal in the 1960s.
>
I need nothing in that regard. I have my mom's lovely white
china, and I have my Arabia and assorted other things for everyday
use, including handmade plates, cups, glasses, etc. I am getting
more into mismatched settings.

--
Jean B.

In article <[email protected]>,
don'[email protected] says...
> "Jean B." <[email protected]> news:[email protected]: in
> rec.food.cooking
>
> >
> > Oh, I just remembered someone who fed his/her cat in crystal
> > bowl. That sounded kind-of cute.
>
> All 4 of my cats line up at precisely 9pm for their evening snack, of
> exactly 5 pieces each, of Feline Greenies every night. They get their
> snacks in faux crystal bowls ;-) I bought 'em at Target. You can put them
> in the dishwasher.
>
> Michael
>
>

Nice! I'll have to get one for Angie. She's the only Felid in Residence
at the moment.