Thread: Warning! Crockpot "warm" setting!

"Omelet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]..
> Am sitting here recovering from a 4 day case of food poisoning...
> Worst one I've ever had. Two days into it, I developed a fever so
> decided it'd be a wise move to take some Keflex I had on hand. Feeling
> better now and the fever is gone.
>
> Never, EVER use the "warm" setting on a crockpot for soup! It's not hot
> enough to keep critters from growing.
>
> This was a fairly new toy for me, so was not familiar with final temps
> it maintained. I had to learn the hard way so wanted to pass it on so
> nobody else has to suffer. Use "High" or "Low" but NEVER use the "warm"
> setting! I do plan on e-mailing the company about it.

I have used it but not for cooking and not for long periods of time. Only
for when I am waiting for my husband to get home. The food is already done
and I don't want to cook it further. So I might leave it on this setting
for an hour or two.

In article <ijdfm1$4au$[email protected]>,
"Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Omelet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news[email protected]..
> > Am sitting here recovering from a 4 day case of food poisoning...
> > Worst one I've ever had. Two days into it, I developed a fever so
> > decided it'd be a wise move to take some Keflex I had on hand. Feeling
> > better now and the fever is gone.
> >
> > Never, EVER use the "warm" setting on a crockpot for soup! It's not hot
> > enough to keep critters from growing.
> >
> > This was a fairly new toy for me, so was not familiar with final temps
> > it maintained. I had to learn the hard way so wanted to pass it on so
> > nobody else has to suffer. Use "High" or "Low" but NEVER use the "warm"
> > setting! I do plan on e-mailing the company about it.
>
> I have used it but not for cooking and not for long periods of time. Only
> for when I am waiting for my husband to get home. The food is already done
> and I don't want to cook it further. So I might leave it on this setting
> for an hour or two.

See, that was the problem. 2 hours is the max for holding temps.
2 hours is the log phase growth for most bacteria...

I screwed up. Plain and simple.

I flushed the entire pot of soup down the toilet so dad would not get
sick. I won't even feed spoiled food to my dogs! They'd get sick too.
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
"One man's theology is another man's belly laugh."
--Robert Heinlien

"Omelet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]..
> Am sitting here recovering from a 4 day case of food poisoning...
> Worst one I've ever had. Two days into it, I developed a fever so
> decided it'd be a wise move to take some Keflex I had on hand. Feeling
> better now and the fever is gone.
>
> Never, EVER use the "warm" setting on a crockpot for soup! It's not hot
> enough to keep critters from growing.
>
> This was a fairly new toy for me, so was not familiar with final temps
> it maintained. I had to learn the hard way so wanted to pass it on so
> nobody else has to suffer. Use "High" or "Low" but NEVER use the "warm"
> setting! I do plan on e-mailing the company about it.
> --
> Peace! Om
>
> Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
> "One man's theology is another man's belly laugh."
> --Robert Heinlien

I think of the "warm" setting as a way to keep an item that has finished
cooking warm for a short period of time.

What brand/model is your crockpot?

MaryL

"MaryL" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think of the "warm" setting as a way to keep an item that has finished
> cooking warm for a short period of time.


Growing up, we didn't know the word "warm" when it came to eating.

"Dinner's ready! Wash your hands."

A wonderful clue to our survival!!!

Andy

In article <4d5a434d$0$4315$[email protected]>, stancole1
@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER says...
>
> "Omelet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news[email protected]..
> > Am sitting here recovering from a 4 day case of food poisoning...
> > Worst one I've ever had. Two days into it, I developed a fever so
> > decided it'd be a wise move to take some Keflex I had on hand. Feeling
> > better now and the fever is gone.
> >
> > Never, EVER use the "warm" setting on a crockpot for soup! It's not hot
> > enough to keep critters from growing.
> >
> > This was a fairly new toy for me, so was not familiar with final temps
> > it maintained. I had to learn the hard way so wanted to pass it on so
> > nobody else has to suffer. Use "High" or "Low" but NEVER use the "warm"
> > setting! I do plan on e-mailing the company about it.
> > --
> > Peace! Om
> >
> > Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
> > "One man's theology is another man's belly laugh."
> > --Robert Heinlien
>
> I think of the "warm" setting as a way to keep an item that has finished
> cooking warm for a short period of time.
>
> What brand/model is your crockpot?

I wanna know too--sounds like he's got one that can actually do what
they're _supposed_ to do.
>
> MaryL

In article <4d5a434d$0$4315$[email protected]>,
"MaryL" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Omelet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news[email protected]..
> > Am sitting here recovering from a 4 day case of food poisoning...
> > Worst one I've ever had. Two days into it, I developed a fever so
> > decided it'd be a wise move to take some Keflex I had on hand. Feeling
> > better now and the fever is gone.
> >
> > Never, EVER use the "warm" setting on a crockpot for soup! It's not hot
> > enough to keep critters from growing.
> >
> > This was a fairly new toy for me, so was not familiar with final temps
> > it maintained. I had to learn the hard way so wanted to pass it on so
> > nobody else has to suffer. Use "High" or "Low" but NEVER use the "warm"
> > setting! I do plan on e-mailing the company about it.
>
> I think of the "warm" setting as a way to keep an item that has finished
> cooking warm for a short period of time.
>
> What brand/model is your crockpot?
>
> MaryL

It is "crockpot" brand. The website printed on the crockpot itself is
www.crockpot.com.

I'll not pursue a lawsuit (not that petty) but I'm sure as hell going to
let them know. I'm still not all that well... just glad I had some abx
on hand. Still feel like ****. But at least the fever is gone.
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
"One man's theology is another man's belly laugh."
--Robert Heinlien

In article <[email protected] ocal>,
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:

> In article <4d5a434d$0$4315$[email protected]>, stancole1
> @yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER says...
> >
> > "Omelet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news[email protected]..
> > > Am sitting here recovering from a 4 day case of food poisoning...
> > > Worst one I've ever had. Two days into it, I developed a fever so
> > > decided it'd be a wise move to take some Keflex I had on hand. Feeling
> > > better now and the fever is gone.
> > >
> > > Never, EVER use the "warm" setting on a crockpot for soup! It's not hot
> > > enough to keep critters from growing.
> > >
> > > This was a fairly new toy for me, so was not familiar with final temps
> > > it maintained. I had to learn the hard way so wanted to pass it on so
> > > nobody else has to suffer. Use "High" or "Low" but NEVER use the "warm"
> > > setting! I do plan on e-mailing the company about it.
> > > --
> > > Peace! Om
> > >
> > > Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
> > > "One man's theology is another man's belly laugh."
> > > --Robert Heinlien
> >
> > I think of the "warm" setting as a way to keep an item that has finished
> > cooking warm for a short period of time.
> >
> > What brand/model is your crockpot?
>
> I wanna know too--sounds like he's got one that can actually do what
> they're _supposed_ to do.
> >
> > MaryL

She. And I did post it. ;-)
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
"One man's theology is another man's belly laugh."
--Robert Heinlien

Omelet wrote:
>
> Am sitting here recovering from a 4 day case of food poisoning...
> Worst one I've ever had. Two days into it, I developed a fever so
> decided it'd be a wise move to take some Keflex I had on hand. Feeling
> better now and the fever is gone.
>
> Never, EVER use the "warm" setting on a crockpot for soup! It's not hot
> enough to keep critters from growing.
>
> This was a fairly new toy for me, so was not familiar with final temps
> it maintained. I had to learn the hard way so wanted to pass it on so
> nobody else has to suffer. Use "High" or "Low" but NEVER use the "warm"
> setting! I do plan on e-mailing the company about it.

Plan on reading the instructions first. I'm 99.999% sure the
instructions will clearly indicate that the "warm" setting is only to be
used to maintain the temperature of food items already cooked and heated
to proper >140F temperature. Certainly that is in the instructions for
every crockpot I've used.

In article <4d5a788f$0$16146$[email protected] .com>,
"Pete C." <[email protected]> wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> >
> > Am sitting here recovering from a 4 day case of food poisoning...
> > Worst one I've ever had. Two days into it, I developed a fever so
> > decided it'd be a wise move to take some Keflex I had on hand. Feeling
> > better now and the fever is gone.
> >
> > Never, EVER use the "warm" setting on a crockpot for soup! It's not hot
> > enough to keep critters from growing.
> >
> > This was a fairly new toy for me, so was not familiar with final temps
> > it maintained. I had to learn the hard way so wanted to pass it on so
> > nobody else has to suffer. Use "High" or "Low" but NEVER use the "warm"
> > setting! I do plan on e-mailing the company about it.
>
> Plan on reading the instructions first. I'm 99.999% sure the
> instructions will clearly indicate that the "warm" setting is only to be
> used to maintain the temperature of food items already cooked and heated
> to proper >140F temperature. Certainly that is in the instructions for
> every crockpot I've used.

Anything greater than 140 should have kept it disinfected.
It must have dropped below 120...

I'm going to have to test it with just water and a calibrated temp gauge.

The food was fully cooked before I dropped it to the "warm" setting.
For a few hours in fact.
--
Peace! Om

Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
"One man's theology is another man's belly laugh."
--Robert Heinlien

"MaryL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:4d5a434d$0$4315$[email protected] ..
>
> "Omelet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news[email protected]..
>> Am sitting here recovering from a 4 day case of food poisoning...
>> Worst one I've ever had. Two days into it, I developed a fever so
>> decided it'd be a wise move to take some Keflex I had on hand. Feeling
>> better now and the fever is gone.
>>
>> Never, EVER use the "warm" setting on a crockpot for soup! It's not hot
>> enough to keep critters from growing.
>>
>> This was a fairly new toy for me, so was not familiar with final temps
>> it maintained. I had to learn the hard way so wanted to pass it on so
>> nobody else has to suffer. Use "High" or "Low" but NEVER use the "warm"
>> setting! I do plan on e-mailing the company about it.
>> --
>> Peace! Om
>>
>
> I think of the "warm" setting as a way to keep an item that has finished
> cooking warm for a short period of time.
>
> What brand/model is your crockpot?
>
> MaryL
Exactly... that setting is for keeping something that is *already cooked*
warm (like at a pot luck dinner).

Jill

"Pete C." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:4d5a788f$0$16146$[email protected] ster.com...
>
> Omelet wrote:
>>
>> Am sitting here recovering from a 4 day case of food poisoning...
>> Worst one I've ever had. Two days into it, I developed a fever so
>> decided it'd be a wise move to take some Keflex I had on hand. Feeling
>> better now and the fever is gone.
>>
>> Never, EVER use the "warm" setting on a crockpot for soup! It's not hot
>> enough to keep critters from growing.
>>
>> This was a fairly new toy for me, so was not familiar with final temps
>> it maintained. I had to learn the hard way so wanted to pass it on so
>> nobody else has to suffer. Use "High" or "Low" but NEVER use the "warm"
>> setting! I do plan on e-mailing the company about it.
>
> Plan on reading the instructions first. I'm 99.999% sure the
> instructions will clearly indicate that the "warm" setting is only to be
> used to maintain the temperature of food items already cooked and heated
> to proper >140F temperature. Certainly that is in the instructions for
> every crockpot I've used.


I'd like to know what she's going to tell the company in this email and what
she expects to gain from it. Obviously the term "warm" is sneaky and
elusive I've cooked with crock pots for 30 years. (The old ones didn't
even have a warm setting.) If you read the manual - and the recipe
booklet - the cooking settings usually specifiy something like HIGH for 3-5
hours or LOW for 6-8 hours. It's great to be able to start a pot roast with
potatoes on low, leave the house in the morning and come back that afternoon
to a hot cooked meal. But warm is obviously intended for just that... to
keep something already cooked warm.

Jill

On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 08:56:11 -0500, "jmcquown" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Pete C." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:4d5a788f$0$16146$[email protected] nster.com...
>>
>> Omelet wrote:
>>>
>>> Am sitting here recovering from a 4 day case of food poisoning...
>>> Worst one I've ever had. Two days into it, I developed a fever so
>>> decided it'd be a wise move to take some Keflex I had on hand. Feeling
>>> better now and the fever is gone.
>>>
>>> Never, EVER use the "warm" setting on a crockpot for soup! It's not hot
>>> enough to keep critters from growing.
>>>
>>> This was a fairly new toy for me, so was not familiar with final temps
>>> it maintained. I had to learn the hard way so wanted to pass it on so
>>> nobody else has to suffer. Use "High" or "Low" but NEVER use the "warm"
>>> setting! I do plan on e-mailing the company about it.
>>
>> Plan on reading the instructions first. I'm 99.999% sure the
>> instructions will clearly indicate that the "warm" setting is only to be
>> used to maintain the temperature of food items already cooked and heated
>> to proper >140F temperature. Certainly that is in the instructions for
>> every crockpot I've used.
>
>
>I'd like to know what she's going to tell the company in this email and what
>she expects to gain from it. Obviously the term "warm" is sneaky and
>elusive I've cooked with crock pots for 30 years. (The old ones didn't
>even have a warm setting.) If you read the manual - and the recipe
>booklet - the cooking settings usually specifiy something like HIGH for 3-5
>hours or LOW for 6-8 hours. It's great to be able to start a pot roast with
>potatoes on low, leave the house in the morning and come back that afternoon
>to a hot cooked meal. But warm is obviously intended for just that... to
>keep something already cooked warm.
>
>Jill

Jill it was mentioned that the soup was already cooked and then put on warm for
an hour.

Omelet <[email protected]> wrote in newsmpomelet-34C673.02343515022011
@news.giganews.com:

> Am sitting here recovering from a 4 day case of food poisoning...


Bummer :-/



> Worst one I've ever had. Two days into it, I developed a fever so
> decided it'd be a wise move to take some Keflex I had on hand. Feeling
> better now and the fever is gone.



Probably would have been better to go to a hospital/Dr and get checked out
rather than self diagnose and self medicate.... but that's just me.




>
> Never, EVER use the "warm" setting on a crockpot for soup! It's not hot
> enough to keep critters from growing.



Exactly how long did you have it on warm??

And what was in the soup that made 'critters' grow? Meat?

Speaking as someone who used to have the constitution of a mongrel dog, and
could eat pizza that had been left out for 48hrs with no problems...... soup
that was 'hot' from a crockpot made you sick???

Might I suggest you look at whatever ingredients you put in it?



>
> This was a fairly new toy for me, so was not familiar with final temps
> it maintained. I had to learn the hard way so wanted to pass it on so
> nobody else has to suffer. Use "High" or "Low" but NEVER use the "warm"
> setting! I do plan on e-mailing the company about it.



And the company will say, "Jeez, you must be one of the 0.0001% of the
population that have experienced a problem with this. Our suggestion to you
would be to not use the warm setting if you are so susceptible to illness."

I've never seen a 'warm' setting on a crockpot. Seen Auto, seen High, seen
Low.... no Warm though.

Maybe the company is foreign owned and is trying to kill off all you
'Merikans?


--
Peter Lucas
Hobart
Tasmania

"As we weep for what we have lost, and as we grieve for family and friends
and we confront the challenge that is before us, I want us to remember who we
are.

We are Queenslanders.

We're the people that they breed tough, north of the border.

We're the ones that they knock down, and we get up again."

"Omelet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]..
> In article <4d5a788f$0$16146$[email protected] .com>,
> "Pete C." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Omelet wrote:
>> >
>> > Am sitting here recovering from a 4 day case of food poisoning...
>> > Worst one I've ever had. Two days into it, I developed a fever so
>> > decided it'd be a wise move to take some Keflex I had on hand. Feeling
>> > better now and the fever is gone.
>> >
>> > Never, EVER use the "warm" setting on a crockpot for soup! It's not
>> > hot
>> > enough to keep critters from growing.
>> >
>> > This was a fairly new toy for me, so was not familiar with final temps
>> > it maintained. I had to learn the hard way so wanted to pass it on so
>> > nobody else has to suffer. Use "High" or "Low" but NEVER use the
>> > "warm"
>> > setting! I do plan on e-mailing the company about it.
>>
>> Plan on reading the instructions first. I'm 99.999% sure the
>> instructions will clearly indicate that the "warm" setting is only to be
>> used to maintain the temperature of food items already cooked and heated
>> to proper >140F temperature. Certainly that is in the instructions for
>> every crockpot I've used.
>
> Anything greater than 140 should have kept it disinfected.
> It must have dropped below 120...
>
> I'm going to have to test it with just water and a calibrated temp gauge.
>
> The food was fully cooked before I dropped it to the "warm" setting.
> For a few hours in fact.

Fully cooked as in... Cooked in the crockpot just then? If not, you're not
using it correctly. You are not supposed to use it to warm food.

On Feb 15, 12:34*am, Omelet <ompome...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Never, EVER use the "warm" setting on a crockpot for soup! *It's not hot
> enough to keep critters from growing.
>
> This was a fairly new toy for me, so was not familiar with final temps
> it maintained. *I had to learn the hard way so wanted to pass it on so
> nobody else has to suffer. *Use "High" or "Low" but NEVER use the "warm"
> setting! *I do plan on e-mailing the company about it.

Poor Ommie!

The cookbook I have from the dawn of that era, _Crockery_Cookery_
specifically warned about that. The minimum safe cooking temperature
is 180F/82C. Then the included reviews of various slow cooker models
said things like "Position 1 is too cool to cook food properly. It is
only designed for warming."

On Feb 15, 4:45*am, Omelet <ompome...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <4d5a434d$0$4315$bbae4...@news.suddenlink.net>,
>
>
>
> *"MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote:
> > "Omelet" <ompome...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news[email protected]..
> > > Am sitting here recovering from a 4 day case of food poisoning...
> > > Worst one I've ever had. *Two days into it, I developed a fever so
> > > decided it'd be a wise move to take some Keflex I had on hand. Feeling
> > > better now and the fever is gone.
>
> > > Never, EVER use the "warm" setting on a crockpot for soup! *It's not hot
> > > enough to keep critters from growing.
>
> > > This was a fairly new toy for me, so was not familiar with final temps
> > > it maintained. *I had to learn the hard way so wanted to pass it onso
> > > nobody else has to suffer. *Use "High" or "Low" but NEVER use the "warm"
> > > setting! *I do plan on e-mailing the company about it.
>
> > I think of the "warm" setting as a way to keep an item that has finished
> > cooking warm for a short period of time.
>
> > What brand/model is your crockpot?
>
> > MaryL
>
> It is "crockpot" brand. The website printed on the crockpot itself iswww.crockpot.com.
>
> I'll not pursue a lawsuit (not that petty) but I'm sure as hell going to
> let them know. *I'm still not all that well... just glad I had some abx
> on hand. *Still feel like ****. But at least the fever is gone.

Not sure what your instruction manual says, but I pulled up the
instruction manual for one of their classic models. Under "How to use
your slow cooker," I find this:

NOTE: Some models feature a WARM setting. WARM is ONLY for keeping
already cooked food warm. DO NOT cook food on the WARM setting. We do
not recommend using the WARM setting for more than 4 hours.

On 2/15/2011 2:34 AM, Omelet wrote:
> Am sitting here recovering from a 4 day case of food poisoning...
> Worst one I've ever had. Two days into it, I developed a fever so
> decided it'd be a wise move to take some Keflex I had on hand. Feeling
> better now and the fever is gone.
>
> Never, EVER use the "warm" setting on a crockpot for soup! It's not hot
> enough to keep critters from growing.
>
> This was a fairly new toy for me, so was not familiar with final temps
> it maintained. I had to learn the hard way so wanted to pass it on so
> nobody else has to suffer. Use "High" or "Low" but NEVER use the "warm"
> setting! I do plan on e-mailing the company about it.

After the food is cooked, I have used the "warm" setting on mine with no
problems. I am wondering if your "crockpot" might have a temperature
defect. I had a Rival brand "Crock Pot" that had a thermostat that was
so horrible it rapidly boiled liquids on "warm" I wound up tossing it
and now have a Hamilton Beach which I adore.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 02:34:35 -0600, Omelet <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Am sitting here recovering from a 4 day case of food poisoning...
>Worst one I've ever had. Two days into it, I developed a fever so
>decided it'd be a wise move to take some Keflex I had on hand. Feeling
>better now and the fever is gone.
>
>Never, EVER use the "warm" setting on a crockpot for soup! It's not hot
>enough to keep critters from growing.
>
>This was a fairly new toy for me, so was not familiar with final temps
>it maintained. I had to learn the hard way so wanted to pass it on so
>nobody else has to suffer. Use "High" or "Low" but NEVER use the "warm"
>setting! I do plan on e-mailing the company about it.

My crockpot (Rival) can't cook on the keep warm setting, it only comes
on after the set time has elapsed for high or low, and then the keep
warm cycle stays on only one hour. I can't engage the keep warm cycle
unless I first set the time for high or low for some amount of time. I
thought all crock pots worked that way

On Feb 15, 8:13*am, Janet Wilder <kelliepoo...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> After the food is cooked, I have used the "warm" setting on mine with no
> problems. I am wondering if your "crockpot" might have a temperature
> defect. *I had a Rival brand "Crock Pot" that had a thermostat that was
> so horrible it rapidly boiled liquids on "warm" *I wound up tossing it
> and now have a Hamilton Beach which I adore.

The Rival Crock Pot was the canonical slow cooker. My old cookbook
used it as the model for all their recipes. That unit must have been
defective.