Thread: Want to find clean, humane, sustainably raised, meat, pork and poultry?

On Mon, 2 May 2011 15:31:39 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Check out Eat Wild's directory. They have farms in your area
>listed. So you know where your food comes from.
>
>http://www.eatwild.com/
>
>
>I checked the listings for my area and was astounded at how many small
>producers there are who are bringing back clean, hormone free, pasture
>raised meat, poultry and pork.

I recommend using direct referrals instead as I have burned twice by
local meat providers on their lists.

Boron

On May 2, 6:26*pm, Boron Elgar <boron_el...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2 May 2011 15:31:39 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
>
> <sitara8...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Check out Eat Wild's directory. * They have farms in your area
> >listed. *So you know where your food comes from.
>
> >http://www.eatwild.com/
>
> >I checked the listings for my area and was astounded at how many small
> >producers there are who are bringing back clean, hormone free, pasture
> >raised meat, poultry and pork.
>
> I recommend using direct referrals instead as I have burned twice by
> local meat providers on their lists.
>
> Boron

really? How so?

On Mon, 2 May 2011 18:29:48 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On May 2, 6:26*pm, Boron Elgar <boron_el...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 2 May 2011 15:31:39 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
>>
>> <sitara8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >Check out Eat Wild's directory. * They have farms in your area
>> >listed. *So you know where your food comes from.
>>
>> >http://www.eatwild.com/
>>
>> >I checked the listings for my area and was astounded at how many small
>> >producers there are who are bringing back clean, hormone free, pasture
>> >raised meat, poultry and pork.
>>
>> I recommend using direct referrals instead as I have burned twice by
>> local meat providers on their lists.
>>
>> Boron
>
>really? How so?

I am willing to pay a good price for good food. In one case I
bought/subscribed for half a lamb. All the cuts except for the ground
lamb were tough as shoe leather and tasteless. Seriously poor eating
quality.

I bought steaks at the other place. We had trouble cutting through
them - so much trouble, as a matter of fact, that it has become a
family joke.

I travel all over this as well as NY state, PA and CT looking for high
quality, sustainable foodstuffs. I certainly admit that I have led
myself astray at times by using online references such as the link
above.

I used a similar service to get a CSA subscription last year. The
deliveries stopped early in the season, we were promised refunds and
suddenly all emails bounced and the phone number was disconnected. I
got about $25 worth of veggies for $600.

These are places that have reps online, but I had no way of personally
verifying them.

Some day I'll tell you about the moldy butter or the blackberries that
were perfect on the top layer and gooey, fuzzy mush below. There was
the mildew-tasting shoe fly pie from the Amish road stand.

My sister in Michigan has much, much better luck than I, but she knows
her farmer-suppliers personally.

I have gotten wonderful goods at some places, though.

I must also say that I have found highly reputable farmers in this
state, too, but I no longer buy at these places without personal
references from those I trust,. I wind up feeling like I've been
hammered my a Nigerian scam most of the time and it isn't because I
have not been able to really discern anything from the physical exam
of the foods.

Boron

On Mon, 2 May 2011 15:31:39 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags wrote:

> Check out Eat Wild's directory. They have farms in your area
> listed. So you know where your food comes from.
>
> http://www.eatwild.com/
>
> I checked the listings for my area and was astounded at how many small
> producers there are who are bringing back clean, hormone free, pasture
> raised meat, poultry and pork.

And at only $12-$15/lb! (when they have it).

-sw

On 5/2/2011 6:31 PM, ImStillMags wrote:


> Check out Eat Wild's directory. They have farms in your area
> listed. So you know where your food comes from.
>
> http://www.eatwild.com/
>
>
> I checked the listings for my area and was astounded at how many small
> producers there are who are bringing back clean, hormone free, pasture
> raised meat, poultry and pork.
>

In my area there is a meat producer called Whitehouse Meats.
(http://www.whitehousemeats.com/) They have "meat ups" where they sell
their meat, but it's usually just too far to go to buy meat so I wrote
and asked them if they'll have some meat-ups closer to me. I hope they
answer.

On May 2, 6:59*pm, Boron Elgar <boron_el...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Sorry for all your mishaps.

I would use the site as a reference tool only. I found several that
were very close to me. They sell at our Farmers Market and I also
plan on visiting the farm personally. What I have bought from
those at the Farmers Market
has been wonderful.

On Tue, 3 May 2011 07:21:31 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On May 2, 6:59*pm, Boron Elgar <boron_el...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Sorry for all your mishaps.

Thanks...so am I. I find it really ticks me off when I go out of my
way to support local ag and wind up getting screwed.
>
>I would use the site as a reference tool only. I found several that
>were very close to me. They sell at our Farmers Market and I also
>plan on visiting the farm personally. What I have bought from
>those at the Farmers Market
>has been wonderful.

All the places I mentioned save one, also sell at Farmers Markets.

Boron

Sitara wrote:

> I would use the site as a reference tool only. I found several that were
> very close to me. They sell at our Farmers Market and I also plan on
> visiting the farm personally. What I have bought from those at the Farmers
> Market has been wonderful.

My suspicion is raised by the fact that there were two producers quite close
to me, but neither one sells at our local Farmers' Markets.

Bob

Sitara wrote:
>
> I would use the site as a reference tool only. I found several that were
> very close to me. They sell at our Farmers Market and I also plan on
> visiting the farm personally. What I have bought from those at the Farmers
> Market has been wonderful.

It's rare that the venders at farmer's markets are who produced the
wares... stick to farm stands.

Clueless AOL newbie Sheldon "Pussy" Katz blathered:

> It's rare that the venders at farmer's markets are who produced the
> wares... stick to farm stands.

It's always about cheating the customer with you, isn't it? Here in
California, no such fraud takes place. Must suck to live surrounded by the
kind of ****heels you describe, but I'm sure you fit right in.

Bob

On Fri, 6 May 2011 20:20:25 -0700, "Bob Terwilliger"
<virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote:

>Clueless AOL newbie Sheldon "Pussy" Katz blathered:
>
>> It's rare that the venders at farmer's markets are who produced the
>> wares... stick to farm stands.
>
>It's always about cheating the customer with you, isn't it? Here in
>California, no such fraud takes place. Must suck to live surrounded by the
>kind of ****heels you describe, but I'm sure you fit right in.
>
>Bob
>
I find SoCal's farmers' markets quite delightful. The ones I have
patronized are large, well-organized and filled with seasonal
delights.

There are comparable ones in this area, the most prominent being the
Greenmarket at Union Square in Manhattan and in other NYC locations,
of which I was a customer at its inception decades ago.

In both cases, the markets are so large and well regulated that
problems of the sort I mentioned well upstream and upthread, rarely
occur.

I have, though, found that many of these markets are not well
regulated and chaff slips in with the wheat at the smaller, infrequent
ones. This is anecdotal, but my observations have been made over many
years among the smaller markets in Northern NJ, western PA and lower
NY state.

Farm markets may be no better and rely wholly upon the honesty and
forthrightness of the owners. The one farm left in my town has a large
market open daily. I know what is in season here, as I grow much of
what they sell, too, but they do not label their purchased produce as
coming from elsewhere, they just sell it amid their own. It is damned
easy for me to tell a local strawberry (due in next week) from the
California giants sitting on the counter and I can psyche out a
hothouse tomato, too, but many cannot.

And there is my infamous find at a well-known local orchard, whose
apple butter was labeled on the bottom of what was a homey and
charming jar with their name, that it came not from the orchard, but
from South Carolina and its first ingredient was HFCS. Imagine that
among the homemade (maybe??) apple pies on the display.

It is wonderful when the free market works, which I suppose it does
when shoppers have T-shirts that read "caveat emptor."

Boron