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  1. #1
    Marion B Guest

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    Does vinegar contain any alcohol? The web says yes and no!

  2. #2
    Mike Guest

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    Marion B's gaping twat said:

    > Does vinegar contain any alcohol? The web says yes and no!


    Post some pictures of your vagina, Marion.


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    Pandora Guest

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    "Marion B" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    news:y1hlwgqsa8le.1muskqx0wiy3q$.[email protected]..
    > Does vinegar contain any alcohol? The web says yes and no!


    You bet it contains alcohol. Also apple vinegar contains

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  4. #4
    Prai Jei Guest

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    Marion B set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
    continuum:

    > Does vinegar contain any alcohol? The web says yes and no!


    It's possible. Vinegar contains acetic acid, which is the final product of
    the oxidation of (ethyl) alcohol. Like most organic chemical reactions, it
    is (a) difficult to force to completion and (b) produces other compounds as
    a result of side-reactions.

    Acetaldehyde is an intermediate step in the oxidation but it is difficult to
    stop the reaction there since it is a powerful reducing agent, so the
    amount of acetaldehyde present is likely to be small. But unreacted alcohol
    is a distinct possibility.

    For the technically minded (and you might need fixed-pitch):

    CH3CH2OH + [O] = CH3CHO + H2O
    alcohol oxygen acetaldehyde water

    CH3CHO + [0] = CH3COOH
    acetaldehyde oxygen acetic acid

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  5. #5
    blake murphy Guest

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    On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 02:02:14 +0000, Marion B wrote:

    > Does vinegar contain any alcohol? The web says yes and no!


    i think it depends (and depends on why you want to know). i have seen
    references that say it might set off a reaction in those taking antabuse
    (disulfuram), due to a chemical in vinegar that is very similar to alcohol.
    but i don't think it's otherwise detectable by humans.

    wine vinegars may contain trace amounts.

    your pal,
    blake

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    James Silverton Guest

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    blake wrote on Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:09:31 GMT:

    >> Does vinegar contain any alcohol? The web says yes and no!


    > i think it depends (and depends on why you want to know). i
    > have seen references that say it might set off a reaction in
    > those taking antabuse (disulfuram), due to a chemical in
    > vinegar that is very similar to alcohol. but i don't think
    > it's otherwise detectable by humans.


    > wine vinegars may contain trace amounts.


    Originally, "vinegar" was the Latin term for "sour wine", the stuff the
    legionaries drank. However, I've never gotten drunk on current vinegar.

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    Lou Ravi Guest

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    James Silverton wrote:

    > Originally, "vinegar" was the Latin term for "sour wine", the stuff
    > the legionaries drank. However, I've never gotten drunk on current
    > vinegar.


    Not sure if it was Latin but the French word for it, 'vinaigre', means
    that in its parts: 'vin aigre'



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    Wim van Bemmel Guest

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    On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:13:25 +0000, James Silverton wrote:

    > blake wrote on Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:09:31 GMT:
    >
    >>> Does vinegar contain any alcohol? The web says yes and no!

    >
    >> i think it depends (and depends on why you want to know). i have seen
    >> references that say it might set off a reaction in those taking
    >> antabuse (disulfuram), due to a chemical in vinegar that is very
    >> similar to alcohol. but i don't think it's otherwise detectable by
    >> humans.

    >
    >> wine vinegars may contain trace amounts.

    >
    > Originally, "vinegar" was the Latin term for "sour wine", the stuff the
    > legionaries drank. However, I've never gotten drunk on current vinegar.


    The French name "vinaigre" means literally "vin aigre" = sour wine.
    That is what your wine becomes if you leave the bottle open.
    So there may be some alcohol left.

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    Groet, salut, Wim.

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    June Hughes Guest

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    In message <498f3354$0$191$[email protected]>, Wim van Bemmel
    <[email protected]> writes
    >On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:13:25 +0000, James Silverton wrote:
    >
    >> blake wrote on Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:09:31 GMT:
    >>
    >>>> Does vinegar contain any alcohol? The web says yes and no!

    >>
    >>> i think it depends (and depends on why you want to know). i have seen
    >>> references that say it might set off a reaction in those taking
    >>> antabuse (disulfuram), due to a chemical in vinegar that is very
    >>> similar to alcohol. but i don't think it's otherwise detectable by
    >>> humans.

    >>
    >>> wine vinegars may contain trace amounts.

    >>
    >> Originally, "vinegar" was the Latin term for "sour wine", the stuff the
    >> legionaries drank. However, I've never gotten drunk on current vinegar.

    >
    >The French name "vinaigre" means literally "vin aigre" = sour wine.
    >That is what your wine becomes if you leave the bottle open.
    >So there may be some alcohol left.
    >

    Are you the Wim who used to post here years ago? If you are it's great
    to see you again. If not, welcome to ukfd. Enjoy!
    --
    June Hughes

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    Pandora Guest

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    "Wim van Bemmel" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    news:498f3354$0$191$[email protected]..
    > On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:13:25 +0000, James Silverton wrote:
    >
    >> blake wrote on Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:09:31 GMT:
    >>
    >>>> Does vinegar contain any alcohol? The web says yes and no!

    >>
    >>> i think it depends (and depends on why you want to know). i have seen
    >>> references that say it might set off a reaction in those taking
    >>> antabuse (disulfuram), due to a chemical in vinegar that is very
    >>> similar to alcohol. but i don't think it's otherwise detectable by
    >>> humans.

    >>
    >>> wine vinegars may contain trace amounts.

    >>
    >> Originally, "vinegar" was the Latin term for "sour wine", the stuff the
    >> legionaries drank. However, I've never gotten drunk on current vinegar.

    >
    > The French name "vinaigre" means literally "vin aigre" = sour wine.
    > That is what your wine becomes if you leave the bottle open.
    > So there may be some alcohol left.


    BTW on the bottle of vinegar there is graduation. Here is why alcoholized
    can't drink it.

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    Cheers
    Pandora
    >
    > --
    > Groet, salut, Wim.




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    Wim van Bemmel Guest

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    On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:58:05 +0000, June Hughes wrote:

    > In message <498f3354$0$191$[email protected]>, Wim van Bemmel
    > <[email protected]> writes
    >>On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:13:25 +0000, James Silverton wrote:
    >>
    >>> blake wrote on Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:09:31 GMT:
    >>>
    >>>>> Does vinegar contain any alcohol? The web says yes and no!
    >>>
    >>>> i think it depends (and depends on why you want to know). i have
    >>>> seen references that say it might set off a reaction in those taking
    >>>> antabuse (disulfuram), due to a chemical in vinegar that is very
    >>>> similar to alcohol. but i don't think it's otherwise detectable by
    >>>> humans.
    >>>
    >>>> wine vinegars may contain trace amounts.
    >>>
    >>> Originally, "vinegar" was the Latin term for "sour wine", the stuff
    >>> the legionaries drank. However, I've never gotten drunk on current
    >>> vinegar.

    >>
    >>The French name "vinaigre" means literally "vin aigre" = sour wine. That
    >>is what your wine becomes if you leave the bottle open. So there may be
    >>some alcohol left.
    >>

    > Are you the Wim who used to post here years ago? If you are it's great
    > to see you again. If not, welcome to ukfd. Enjoy!


    Might be, yes, in fact I posted here already many years ago. I never
    posted to ukfd, though. I am, and did, post to rfc.
    And, in general, crosspostings to more than 2 groups are killfiled.
    So, the best way not to be read by me, is crosspost to 3 newsgroups. You
    escaped by accident.

    --
    Groet, salut, Wim.

  12. #12
    Lou Ravi Guest

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    Pandora wrote:
    > "Wim van Bemmel" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    > news:498f3354$0$191$[email protected]..
    >> On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:13:25 +0000, James Silverton wrote:
    >>
    >>> blake wrote on Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:09:31 GMT:
    >>>
    >>>>> Does vinegar contain any alcohol? The web says yes and no!
    >>>
    >>>> i think it depends (and depends on why you want to know). i have
    >>>> seen references that say it might set off a reaction in those
    >>>> taking antabuse (disulfuram), due to a chemical in vinegar that is
    >>>> very similar to alcohol. but i don't think it's otherwise
    >>>> detectable by humans.
    >>>
    >>>> wine vinegars may contain trace amounts.
    >>>
    >>> Originally, "vinegar" was the Latin term for "sour wine", the stuff
    >>> the legionaries drank. However, I've never gotten drunk on current
    >>> vinegar.

    >>
    >> The French name "vinaigre" means literally "vin aigre" = sour wine.
    >> That is what your wine becomes if you leave the bottle open.
    >> So there may be some alcohol left.

    >
    > BTW on the bottle of vinegar there is graduation. Here is why
    > alcoholized can't drink it.


    Yes but isn't the alcohol content the original one, that is to say
    before it turns to vinegar rather than after? This being said, as people
    have pointed out, some alcohol probably does remain.



  13. #13
    August West Guest

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    The entity calling itself Lou Ravi wrote:
    >
    > Pandora wrote:
    >> "Wim van Bemmel" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    >> news:498f3354$0$191$[email protected]..
    >>> On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:13:25 +0000, James Silverton wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> blake wrote on Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:09:31 GMT:
    >>>>
    >>>>>> Does vinegar contain any alcohol? The web says yes and no!
    >>>>
    >>>>> i think it depends (and depends on why you want to know). i have
    >>>>> seen references that say it might set off a reaction in those
    >>>>> taking antabuse (disulfuram), due to a chemical in vinegar that is
    >>>>> very similar to alcohol. but i don't think it's otherwise
    >>>>> detectable by humans.
    >>>>
    >>>>> wine vinegars may contain trace amounts.
    >>>>
    >>>> Originally, "vinegar" was the Latin term for "sour wine", the stuff
    >>>> the legionaries drank. However, I've never gotten drunk on current
    >>>> vinegar.
    >>>
    >>> The French name "vinaigre" means literally "vin aigre" = sour wine.
    >>> That is what your wine becomes if you leave the bottle open.
    >>> So there may be some alcohol left.

    >>
    >> BTW on the bottle of vinegar there is graduation. Here is why
    >> alcoholized can't drink it.

    >
    > Yes but isn't the alcohol content the original one, that is to say
    > before it turns to vinegar rather than after? This being said, as people
    > have pointed out, some alcohol probably does remain.


    Unless the vinegar in question is "non-brewed condiment", as a lot of it
    in the UK is.

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    Wim van Bemmel Guest

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    On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 01:26:47 +0000, Wim van Bemmel wrote:

    > On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:58:05 +0000, June Hughes wrote:
    >
    >> In message <498f3354$0$191$[email protected]>, Wim van Bemmel
    >> <[email protected]> writes
    >>>On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:13:25 +0000, James Silverton wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> blake wrote on Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:09:31 GMT:
    >>>>
    >>>>>> Does vinegar contain any alcohol? The web says yes and no!
    >>>>
    >>>>> i think it depends (and depends on why you want to know). i have
    >>>>> seen references that say it might set off a reaction in those taking
    >>>>> antabuse (disulfuram), due to a chemical in vinegar that is very
    >>>>> similar to alcohol. but i don't think it's otherwise detectable by
    >>>>> humans.
    >>>>
    >>>>> wine vinegars may contain trace amounts.
    >>>>
    >>>> Originally, "vinegar" was the Latin term for "sour wine", the stuff
    >>>> the legionaries drank. However, I've never gotten drunk on current
    >>>> vinegar.
    >>>
    >>>The French name "vinaigre" means literally "vin aigre" = sour wine.
    >>>That is what your wine becomes if you leave the bottle open. So there
    >>>may be some alcohol left.
    >>>

    >> Are you the Wim who used to post here years ago? If you are it's great
    >> to see you again. If not, welcome to ukfd. Enjoy!

    >
    > Might be, yes, in fact I posted here already many years ago. I never
    > posted to ukfd, though. I am, and did, post to rfc. And, in general,
    > crosspostings to more than 2 groups are killfiled. So, the best way not
    > to be read by me, is crosspost to 3 newsgroups. You escaped by accident.


    Rereading my reply, I think it was not too informative.
    About 8 years ago I had a job as system controller over some computer
    systems at a bank in Amsterdam. That was a job with almost nothing to do
    most of the time, but very much in case of emergency, and that was rare.
    Also I had unlimited internet access. So I spent time in usenet groups,
    then. Not being satisfied by this life, more specifically the daily drive
    to and from Amsterdam, I decided to quit. So I bought a house in southern
    France, and retired. And moved to there.
    That does not mean that I left usenet altogether, but my use of it is much
    more restricted. I follow some Dutch groups, some French, and rfc.
    So, we might have met before. But, for a try, I added uk.food+drink.misc
    to my list. To avoid my crosspost killfile trap.

    See you there !
    --
    Groet, salut, Wim.

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    Mr. Broadhurst Guest

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    "Marion B" <[email protected]> wrote

    > Does vinegar contain any alcohol?


    Who Cares?



  16. #16
    Marcus Houlden Guest

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    On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 00:02:26 -0000, Mr. Broadhurst <[email protected]>
    wrote the following to uk.misc:

    >
    > "Marion B" <[email protected]> wrote
    >
    >> Does vinegar contain any alcohol?

    >
    > Who Cares?


    In some pubs it can be hard to tell the difference.

    Hmm. Looks like last time I had a drink was New Year's Eve. I'm training for
    a fight a week on Sunday so it looks like I'll be having 7 completely dry
    weeks. Afterwards OTOH....

    mh.
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    Mr. Broadhurst Guest

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    "Marcus Houlden" <[email protected]> wrote

    >>> Does vinegar contain any alcohol?

    >>
    >> Who Cares?

    >
    > In some pubs it can be hard to tell the difference.
    >
    > Hmm. Looks like last time I had a drink was New Year's Eve. I'm training
    > for
    > a fight a week on Sunday so it looks like I'll be having 7 completely dry
    > weeks. Afterwards OTOH....


    I would love to come and see you fight, but I'd be biting my tongue: "Big
    Puff fell off his bike! Kick his ****ing head in!"

    Juss kidding.

    Time we had a beer, mate!



  18. #18
    Wim van Bemmel Guest

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    On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 00:50:35 +0000, Mr. Broadhurst wrote:


    > I would love to come and see you fight, but I'd be biting my tongue:
    > "Big Puff fell off his bike! Kick his ****ing head in!"
    >
    > Juss kidding.
    >
    > Time we had a beer, mate!


    This must be a crosspost from UK.

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    Groet, salut, Wim.

  19. #19
    August West Guest

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    The entity calling itself Wim van Bemmel wrote:
    >
    > On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 00:50:35 +0000, Mr. Broadhurst wrote:
    >
    >> I would love to come and see you fight, but I'd be biting my tongue:
    >> "Big Puff fell off his bike! Kick his ****ing head in!"
    >>
    >> Juss kidding.
    >>
    >> Time we had a beer, mate!

    >
    > This must be a crosspost from UK.


    NS, S!

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    Quantum of Sausage Guest

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    In article <4990c40d$0$24603$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...
    >
    > "Marion B" <[email protected]> wrote
    >
    > > Does vinegar contain any alcohol?

    >
    > Who Cares?
    >


    Peeps who can't even get meths?

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    Live fast, die only if strictly necessary.

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