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  1. #61
    CheeseHusker dos Guest

    Default Re: Vegetarian Breakfast Sausage (meatless sausage)

    On Oct 10, 9:18*am, Rupert <rupertmccal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > On Oct 10, 4:09*pm, "J.C. Watts" <jonens...@charter.net> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Oct 10, 3:26*am, Rupert <rupertmccal...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >
    > > > On Oct 9, 8:40*pm, "The Undead Edward M. Kennedy" <e...@o.com> wrote:

    >
    > > > > "George Plimpton" <geo...@si.not> wrote

    >
    > > > > >> Check this out Its great
    > > > > >>http://youtu.be/1LIyVBWaE_A

    >
    > > > > > It's ****. *It's unpalatable ****.

    >
    > > > > > Why are "vegans" continually trying to make stuff look like and taste like meat? **Extremely* suspicious.

    >
    > > > > It's mostly for people who like meat but are trying to eat "healthy".

    >
    > > > > > No one likes "vegan" food - no one.

    >
    > > > > Some actually do, the problem is none of them are healthy.

    >
    > > > This isn't true. Just about everyone enjoys some food which is
    > > > suitable for vegans. And a significant majority of those people are
    > > > healthy. Furthermore a significant majority of those who consume an
    > > > exclusively vegan diet are quite healthy. The American Dietetic
    > > > Association has endorsed the position that appropriately-planned vegan
    > > > diets are nutritionally adequate at all stages of life, and carry many
    > > > significant health benefits.

    >
    > > Yeah, but hamburgers taste so much better.

    >
    > Well, if that's what you reckon then that's fine. I've been vegan for
    > about 16 years and I definitely remember that I used to enjoy the
    > taste of meat and I also think that I enjoy my food now about as much
    > as I used to before I became vegan. And I also believe that by being
    > vegan I'm reducing my expected contribution to animal suffering.
    >
    > But you may find it unlikely that you would enjoy food and/or you may
    > not find the consideration about animal suffering to be compelling.
    > Which is of course your choice, I have no interest in trying to get
    > you to change your mind.- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    Why do you enjoy inflicting pain onto vegetables and fruits?

  2. #62
    Rupert Guest

    Default Re: Vegetarian Breakfast Sausage (meatless sausage)

    On Oct 10, 5:31*pm, "Mr. N.A.Cho" <ThisSpaceForR...@mail.com> wrote:
    > On Oct 10, 11:29*am, Rupert <rupertmccal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Oct 10, 5:25*pm, "The Undead Edward M. Kennedy" <e...@o.com> wrote:

    >
    > > > "Mr. N.A.Cho" <ThisSpaceForR...@mail.com> wrote

    >
    > > > > > > >> Check this out Its great
    > > > > > > >>http://youtu.be/1LIyVBWaE_A

    >
    > > > > > > > It's ****. It's unpalatable ****.

    >
    > > > > > > > Why are "vegans" continually trying to make stuff look like and taste like meat? *Extremely* suspicious.

    >
    > > > > > > It's mostly for people who like meat but are trying to eat "healthy".

    >
    > > > > > > > No one likes "vegan" food - no one.

    >
    > > > > > > Some actually do, the problem is none of them are healthy.

    >
    > > > > > This isn't true. Just about everyone enjoys some food which is
    > > > > > suitable for vegans. And a significant majority of those people are
    > > > > > healthy. Furthermore a significant majority of those who consume an
    > > > > > exclusively vegan diet are quite healthy. The American Dietetic
    > > > > > Association has endorsed the position that appropriately-planned vegan
    > > > > > diets are nutritionally adequate at all stages of life, and carrymany
    > > > > > significant health benefits.

    >
    > > > > > -----

    >
    > > > > > I was talking about vegans. While technically you and the ADD are
    > > > > > correct, it's like claiming unicorn farts are part of your diet. Show
    > > > > > me the vegan who can appropriate plan a diet at all stages of life,
    > > > > > and I'll show you a unicorn because people need meat and dairy.

    >
    > > > > > --Tedward

    >
    > > > > You're an idiot.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > > > <
    > > > <I'd like to see the type of person that's a cradle to grave vegan.

    >
    > > > The kid would break his hip taking the first step...

    >
    > > > --Tedward

    >
    > > Two friends of mine have been bringing up their children as vegan
    > > since birth (with the possible exception of breast milk, I am not
    > > sure). The children are perfectly well. One of them is about seven
    > > years old, I think.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > > - Show quoted text -

    >
    > jesus. * that just smells like a version of child abuse.


    Your opinions are ignorant prejudices; you don't really have any idea
    of what you're talking about.

  3. #63
    The Undead Edward M. Kennedy Guest

    Default Re: Vegetarian Breakfast Sausage (meatless sausage)

    "CheeseHusker dos" <[email protected]> wrote

    > > > > >> Check this out Its great
    > > > > >>http://youtu.be/1LIyVBWaE_A

    >
    > > > > > It's ****. It's unpalatable ****.

    >
    > > > > > Why are "vegans" continually trying to make stuff look like and taste like meat? *Extremely* suspicious.

    >
    > > > > It's mostly for people who like meat but are trying to eat "healthy".

    >
    > > > > > No one likes "vegan" food - no one.

    >
    > > > > Some actually do, the problem is none of them are healthy.

    >
    > > > This isn't true. Just about everyone enjoys some food which is
    > > > suitable for vegans. And a significant majority of those people are
    > > > healthy. Furthermore a significant majority of those who consume an
    > > > exclusively vegan diet are quite healthy. The American Dietetic
    > > > Association has endorsed the position that appropriately-planned vegan
    > > > diets are nutritionally adequate at all stages of life, and carry many
    > > > significant health benefits.

    >
    > > Yeah, but hamburgers taste so much better.

    >
    > Well, if that's what you reckon then that's fine. I've been vegan for
    > about 16 years and I definitely remember that I used to enjoy the
    > taste of meat and I also think that I enjoy my food now about as much
    > as I used to before I became vegan. And I also believe that by being
    > vegan I'm reducing my expected contribution to animal suffering.
    >
    > But you may find it unlikely that you would enjoy food and/or you may
    > not find the consideration about animal suffering to be compelling.
    > Which is of course your choice, I have no interest in trying to get
    > you to change your mind.- Hide quoted text -

    <
    <Why do you enjoy inflicting pain onto vegetables and fruits?

    And the bugs that live on them!!!

    --Tedward



  4. #64
    Rupert Guest

    Default Re: Vegetarian Breakfast Sausage (meatless sausage)

    On Oct 10, 5:31*pm, "The Undead Edward M. Kennedy" <e...@o.com> wrote:
    > "Rupert" <rupertmccal...@yahoo.com> wrote
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > > > > >> Check this out Its great
    > > > > > >>http://youtu.be/1LIyVBWaE_A

    >
    > > > > > > It's ****. It's unpalatable ****.

    >
    > > > > > > Why are "vegans" continually trying to make stuff look like andtaste like meat? *Extremely* suspicious.

    >
    > > > > > It's mostly for people who like meat but are trying to eat "healthy".

    >
    > > > > > > No one likes "vegan" food - no one.

    >
    > > > > > Some actually do, the problem is none of them are healthy.

    >
    > > > > This isn't true. Just about everyone enjoys some food which is
    > > > > suitable for vegans. And a significant majority of those people are
    > > > > healthy. Furthermore a significant majority of those who consume an
    > > > > exclusively vegan diet are quite healthy. The American Dietetic
    > > > > Association has endorsed the position that appropriately-planned vegan
    > > > > diets are nutritionally adequate at all stages of life, and carry many
    > > > > significant health benefits.

    >
    > > > > -----

    >
    > > > > I was talking about vegans. While technically you and the ADD are
    > > > > correct, it's like claiming unicorn farts are part of your diet. Show
    > > > > me the vegan who can appropriate plan a diet at all stages of life,
    > > > > and I'll show you a unicorn because people need meat and dairy.

    >
    > > > > --Tedward

    >
    > > > You're an idiot.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > > <
    > > <I'd like to see the type of person that's a cradle to grave vegan.

    >
    > > The kid would break his hip taking the first step...

    >
    > > --Tedward

    >
    > Two friends of mine have been bringing up their children as vegan
    > since birth (with the possible exception of breast milk, I am not
    > sure). The children are perfectly well. One of them is about seven
    > years old, I think.
    >
    > -----
    >
    > "exception of breast milk" indeed. *A is A. *Not A is not A.
    >
    > You got two imaginary friends and Mr. Cho provided an actual picture.
    >
    > --Tedward


    They are not imaginary friends. The fact that I don't have photos of
    them to hand is irrelevant; photos would prove nothing. An image of an
    anorexic person has no bearing on the issue.

    Your opinions are ignorant prejudices; you don't have any idea of what
    you're talking about. If you did you would provide some real evidence.

  5. #65
    Rupert Guest

    Default Re: Vegetarian Breakfast Sausage (meatless sausage)

    On Oct 10, 5:32*pm, CheeseHusker dos <jonrus...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > On Oct 10, 9:18*am, Rupert <rupertmccal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Oct 10, 4:09*pm, "J.C. Watts" <jonens...@charter.net> wrote:

    >
    > > > On Oct 10, 3:26*am, Rupert <rupertmccal...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >
    > > > > On Oct 9, 8:40*pm, "The Undead Edward M. Kennedy" <e...@o.com> wrote:

    >
    > > > > > "George Plimpton" <geo...@si.not> wrote

    >
    > > > > > >> Check this out Its great
    > > > > > >>http://youtu.be/1LIyVBWaE_A

    >
    > > > > > > It's ****. *It's unpalatable ****.

    >
    > > > > > > Why are "vegans" continually trying to make stuff look like andtaste like meat? **Extremely* suspicious.

    >
    > > > > > It's mostly for people who like meat but are trying to eat "healthy".

    >
    > > > > > > No one likes "vegan" food - no one.

    >
    > > > > > Some actually do, the problem is none of them are healthy.

    >
    > > > > This isn't true. Just about everyone enjoys some food which is
    > > > > suitable for vegans. And a significant majority of those people are
    > > > > healthy. Furthermore a significant majority of those who consume an
    > > > > exclusively vegan diet are quite healthy. The American Dietetic
    > > > > Association has endorsed the position that appropriately-planned vegan
    > > > > diets are nutritionally adequate at all stages of life, and carry many
    > > > > significant health benefits.

    >
    > > > Yeah, but hamburgers taste so much better.

    >
    > > Well, if that's what you reckon then that's fine. I've been vegan for
    > > about 16 years and I definitely remember that I used to enjoy the
    > > taste of meat and I also think that I enjoy my food now about as much
    > > as I used to before I became vegan. And I also believe that by being
    > > vegan I'm reducing my expected contribution to animal suffering.

    >
    > > But you may find it unlikely that you would enjoy food and/or you may
    > > not find the consideration about animal suffering to be compelling.
    > > Which is of course your choice, I have no interest in trying to get
    > > you to change your mind.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > > - Show quoted text -

    >
    > Why do you enjoy inflicting pain onto vegetables and fruits?


    No sensible person believes that vegetables and fruits are capable of
    experiencing pain.

  6. #66
    The Undead Edward M. Kennedy Guest

    Default Re: Vegetarian Breakfast Sausage (meatless sausage)

    "Rupert" <rupertm[email protected]> wrote

    > > > > > >> Check this out Its great
    > > > > > >>http://youtu.be/1LIyVBWaE_A

    >
    > > > > > > It's ****. It's unpalatable ****.

    >
    > > > > > > Why are "vegans" continually trying to make stuff look like and taste like meat? *Extremely* suspicious.

    >
    > > > > > It's mostly for people who like meat but are trying to eat "healthy".

    >
    > > > > > > No one likes "vegan" food - no one.

    >
    > > > > > Some actually do, the problem is none of them are healthy.

    >
    > > > > This isn't true. Just about everyone enjoys some food which is
    > > > > suitable for vegans. And a significant majority of those people are
    > > > > healthy. Furthermore a significant majority of those who consume an
    > > > > exclusively vegan diet are quite healthy. The American Dietetic
    > > > > Association has endorsed the position that appropriately-planned vegan
    > > > > diets are nutritionally adequate at all stages of life, and carry many
    > > > > significant health benefits.

    >
    > > > > -----

    >
    > > > > I was talking about vegans. While technically you and the ADD are
    > > > > correct, it's like claiming unicorn farts are part of your diet. Show
    > > > > me the vegan who can appropriate plan a diet at all stages of life,
    > > > > and I'll show you a unicorn because people need meat and dairy.

    >
    > > > > --Tedward

    >
    > > > You're an idiot.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > > <
    > > <I'd like to see the type of person that's a cradle to grave vegan.

    >
    > > The kid would break his hip taking the first step...

    >
    > > --Tedward

    >
    > Two friends of mine have been bringing up their children as vegan
    > since birth (with the possible exception of breast milk, I am not
    > sure). The children are perfectly well. One of them is about seven
    > years old, I think.
    >
    > -----
    >
    > "exception of breast milk" indeed. A is A. Not A is not A.
    >
    > You got two imaginary friends and Mr. Cho provided an actual picture.
    >
    > --Tedward


    They are not imaginary friends. The fact that I don't have photos of
    them to hand is irrelevant; photos would prove nothing. An image of an
    anorexic person has no bearing on the issue.

    Your opinions are ignorant prejudices; you don't have any idea of what
    you're talking about. If you did you would provide some real evidence.

    -----

    Now you're resorting to Ad Hominid attacks, a sure sign you've lost
    the argument.

    --Tedward



  7. #67
    Rupert Guest

    Default Re: Vegetarian Breakfast Sausage (meatless sausage)

    On Oct 10, 5:33*pm, "The Undead Edward M. Kennedy" <e...@o.com> wrote:
    > "CheeseHusker dos" <jonrus...@yahoo.com> wrote
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > > > > >> Check this out Its great
    > > > > > >>http://youtu.be/1LIyVBWaE_A

    >
    > > > > > > It's ****. It's unpalatable ****.

    >
    > > > > > > Why are "vegans" continually trying to make stuff look like andtaste like meat? *Extremely* suspicious.

    >
    > > > > > It's mostly for people who like meat but are trying to eat "healthy".

    >
    > > > > > > No one likes "vegan" food - no one.

    >
    > > > > > Some actually do, the problem is none of them are healthy.

    >
    > > > > This isn't true. Just about everyone enjoys some food which is
    > > > > suitable for vegans. And a significant majority of those people are
    > > > > healthy. Furthermore a significant majority of those who consume an
    > > > > exclusively vegan diet are quite healthy. The American Dietetic
    > > > > Association has endorsed the position that appropriately-planned vegan
    > > > > diets are nutritionally adequate at all stages of life, and carry many
    > > > > significant health benefits.

    >
    > > > Yeah, but hamburgers taste so much better.

    >
    > > Well, if that's what you reckon then that's fine. I've been vegan for
    > > about 16 years and I definitely remember that I used to enjoy the
    > > taste of meat and I also think that I enjoy my food now about as much
    > > as I used to before I became vegan. And I also believe that by being
    > > vegan I'm reducing my expected contribution to animal suffering.

    >
    > > But you may find it unlikely that you would enjoy food and/or you may
    > > not find the consideration about animal suffering to be compelling.
    > > Which is of course your choice, I have no interest in trying to get
    > > you to change your mind.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > <
    > <Why do you enjoy inflicting pain onto vegetables and fruits?
    >
    > And the bugs that live on them!!!
    >
    > --Tedward


    Of course insects die in order to produce my food. Plenty of small
    mammals die as well for that matter, crushed up in the combine
    harvester. I never made any claim that no suffering and premature
    death had to take place in order to produce my food. I am somewhat
    motivated to make some effort to reduce the amount of suffering that
    has to take place in order to produce my food and I have decided to be
    vegan because I think that that's a sensible strategy for achieving
    that goal. Others may have different priorities and as I said I have
    no interest in trying to get them to change their mind.

  8. #68
    CheeseHusker dos Guest

    Default Re: Vegetarian Breakfast Sausage (meatless sausage)

    On Oct 10, 10:36*am, Rupert <rupertmccal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > On Oct 10, 5:32*pm, CheeseHusker dos <jonrus...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Oct 10, 9:18*am, Rupert <rupertmccal...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >
    > > > On Oct 10, 4:09*pm, "J.C. Watts" <jonens...@charter.net> wrote:

    >
    > > > > On Oct 10, 3:26*am, Rupert <rupertmccal...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >
    > > > > > On Oct 9, 8:40*pm, "The Undead Edward M. Kennedy" <e...@o.com> wrote:

    >
    > > > > > > "George Plimpton" <geo...@si.not> wrote

    >
    > > > > > > >> Check this out Its great
    > > > > > > >>http://youtu.be/1LIyVBWaE_A

    >
    > > > > > > > It's ****. *It's unpalatable ****.

    >
    > > > > > > > Why are "vegans" continually trying to make stuff look like and taste like meat? **Extremely* suspicious.

    >
    > > > > > > It's mostly for people who like meat but are trying to eat "healthy".

    >
    > > > > > > > No one likes "vegan" food - no one.

    >
    > > > > > > Some actually do, the problem is none of them are healthy.

    >
    > > > > > This isn't true. Just about everyone enjoys some food which is
    > > > > > suitable for vegans. And a significant majority of those people are
    > > > > > healthy. Furthermore a significant majority of those who consume an
    > > > > > exclusively vegan diet are quite healthy. The American Dietetic
    > > > > > Association has endorsed the position that appropriately-planned vegan
    > > > > > diets are nutritionally adequate at all stages of life, and carrymany
    > > > > > significant health benefits.

    >
    > > > > Yeah, but hamburgers taste so much better.

    >
    > > > Well, if that's what you reckon then that's fine. I've been vegan for
    > > > about 16 years and I definitely remember that I used to enjoy the
    > > > taste of meat and I also think that I enjoy my food now about as much
    > > > as I used to before I became vegan. And I also believe that by being
    > > > vegan I'm reducing my expected contribution to animal suffering.

    >
    > > > But you may find it unlikely that you would enjoy food and/or you may
    > > > not find the consideration about animal suffering to be compelling.
    > > > Which is of course your choice, I have no interest in trying to get
    > > > you to change your mind.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > > > - Show quoted text -

    >
    > > Why do you enjoy inflicting pain onto vegetables and fruits?

    >
    > No sensible person believes that vegetables and fruits are capable of
    > experiencing pain.- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    wrong

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/notesandqu...-83446,00.html

    At least when I eat cheese, I'm not killing the cow.

    What's it feel like to be a mass murderer and a major contributer to
    global warming? Why do you hate the earth?

  9. #69
    Mr. N.A.Cho Guest

    Default Re: Vegetarian Breakfast Sausage (meatless sausage)

    On Oct 10, 11:38*am, Rupert <rupertmccal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > On Oct 10, 5:33*pm, "The Undead Edward M. Kennedy" <e...@o.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > "CheeseHusker dos" <jonrus...@yahoo.com> wrote

    >
    > > > > > > >> Check this out Its great
    > > > > > > >>http://youtu.be/1LIyVBWaE_A

    >
    > > > > > > > It's ****. It's unpalatable ****.

    >
    > > > > > > > Why are "vegans" continually trying to make stuff look like and taste like meat? *Extremely* suspicious.

    >
    > > > > > > It's mostly for people who like meat but are trying to eat "healthy".

    >
    > > > > > > > No one likes "vegan" food - no one.

    >
    > > > > > > Some actually do, the problem is none of them are healthy.

    >
    > > > > > This isn't true. Just about everyone enjoys some food which is
    > > > > > suitable for vegans. And a significant majority of those people are
    > > > > > healthy. Furthermore a significant majority of those who consume an
    > > > > > exclusively vegan diet are quite healthy. The American Dietetic
    > > > > > Association has endorsed the position that appropriately-planned vegan
    > > > > > diets are nutritionally adequate at all stages of life, and carrymany
    > > > > > significant health benefits.

    >
    > > > > Yeah, but hamburgers taste so much better.

    >
    > > > Well, if that's what you reckon then that's fine. I've been vegan for
    > > > about 16 years and I definitely remember that I used to enjoy the
    > > > taste of meat and I also think that I enjoy my food now about as much
    > > > as I used to before I became vegan. And I also believe that by being
    > > > vegan I'm reducing my expected contribution to animal suffering.

    >
    > > > But you may find it unlikely that you would enjoy food and/or you may
    > > > not find the consideration about animal suffering to be compelling.
    > > > Which is of course your choice, I have no interest in trying to get
    > > > you to change your mind.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > > <
    > > <Why do you enjoy inflicting pain onto vegetables and fruits?

    >
    > > And the bugs that live on them!!!

    >
    > > --Tedward

    >
    > Of course insects die in order to produce my food. Plenty of small
    > mammals die as well for that matter, crushed up in the combine
    > harvester. I never made any claim that no suffering and premature
    > death had to take place in order to produce my food. I am somewhat
    > motivated to make some effort to reduce the amount of suffering that
    > has to take place in order to produce my food and I have decided to be
    > vegan because I think that that's a sensible strategy for achieving
    > that goal. Others may have different priorities and as I said I have
    > no interest in trying to get them to change their mind.- Hide quoted text-
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    Rupert, how do you explain our canine eye teeth? Are they for ripping
    apart carrots? No, they are for ripping apart animal flesh. We are
    meat eaters. To force a child against the very human nature they
    are born with is child abuse of a sort. It's like the disgusting
    news stories of parents tatooing thier children becuase the parent
    happens to be into tattoos. It's that same selfish and narrow-minded
    idea of forcing adult choices on a child.

  10. #70
    Rupert Guest

    Default Re: Vegetarian Breakfast Sausage (meatless sausage)

    On Oct 10, 5:36*pm, "The Undead Edward M. Kennedy" <e...@o.com> wrote:
    > "Rupert" <rupertmccal...@yahoo.com> wrote
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > > > > > >> Check this out Its great
    > > > > > > >>http://youtu.be/1LIyVBWaE_A

    >
    > > > > > > > It's ****. It's unpalatable ****.

    >
    > > > > > > > Why are "vegans" continually trying to make stuff look like and taste like meat? *Extremely* suspicious.

    >
    > > > > > > It's mostly for people who like meat but are trying to eat "healthy".

    >
    > > > > > > > No one likes "vegan" food - no one.

    >
    > > > > > > Some actually do, the problem is none of them are healthy.

    >
    > > > > > This isn't true. Just about everyone enjoys some food which is
    > > > > > suitable for vegans. And a significant majority of those people are
    > > > > > healthy. Furthermore a significant majority of those who consume an
    > > > > > exclusively vegan diet are quite healthy. The American Dietetic
    > > > > > Association has endorsed the position that appropriately-planned vegan
    > > > > > diets are nutritionally adequate at all stages of life, and carrymany
    > > > > > significant health benefits.

    >
    > > > > > -----

    >
    > > > > > I was talking about vegans. While technically you and the ADD are
    > > > > > correct, it's like claiming unicorn farts are part of your diet. Show
    > > > > > me the vegan who can appropriate plan a diet at all stages of life,
    > > > > > and I'll show you a unicorn because people need meat and dairy.

    >
    > > > > > --Tedward

    >
    > > > > You're an idiot.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > > > <
    > > > <I'd like to see the type of person that's a cradle to grave vegan.

    >
    > > > The kid would break his hip taking the first step...

    >
    > > > --Tedward

    >
    > > Two friends of mine have been bringing up their children as vegan
    > > since birth (with the possible exception of breast milk, I am not
    > > sure). The children are perfectly well. One of them is about seven
    > > years old, I think.

    >
    > > -----

    >
    > > "exception of breast milk" indeed. A is A. Not A is not A.

    >
    > > You got two imaginary friends and Mr. Cho provided an actual picture.

    >
    > > --Tedward

    >
    > They are not imaginary friends. The fact that I don't have photos of
    > them to hand is irrelevant; photos would prove nothing. An image of an
    > anorexic person has no bearing on the issue.
    >
    > Your opinions are ignorant prejudices; you don't have any idea of what
    > you're talking about. If you did you would provide some real evidence.
    >
    > -----
    >
    > Now you're resorting to Ad Hominid attacks, a sure sign you've lost
    > the argument.
    >


    It's not an ad hominem argument. I am not basing my counter-argument
    on the assertion that your opinions are ignorant prejudices, I have
    given you plenty of good evidence to support my claims. The assertion
    that your opinions are ignorant prejudices is just a factual
    observation which I choose to put in there as well. It is quite
    obviously true because you have shown yourself to be incapable of
    producing any evidence to support your ill-founded beliefs.

    If you insist on remaining ignorant then it's no skin off my nose; I
    really couldn't care less.

  11. #71
    Rupert Guest

    Default Re: Vegetarian Breakfast Sausage (meatless sausage)

    On Oct 10, 5:40*pm, "Mr. N.A.Cho" <ThisSpaceForR...@mail.com> wrote:
    > On Oct 10, 11:38*am, Rupert <rupertmccal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Oct 10, 5:33*pm, "The Undead Edward M. Kennedy" <e...@o.com> wrote:

    >
    > > > "CheeseHusker dos" <jonrus...@yahoo.com> wrote

    >
    > > > > > > > >> Check this out Its great
    > > > > > > > >>http://youtu.be/1LIyVBWaE_A

    >
    > > > > > > > > It's ****. It's unpalatable ****.

    >
    > > > > > > > > Why are "vegans" continually trying to make stuff look likeand taste like meat? *Extremely* suspicious.

    >
    > > > > > > > It's mostly for people who like meat but are trying to eat "healthy".

    >
    > > > > > > > > No one likes "vegan" food - no one.

    >
    > > > > > > > Some actually do, the problem is none of them are healthy.

    >
    > > > > > > This isn't true. Just about everyone enjoys some food which is
    > > > > > > suitable for vegans. And a significant majority of those peopleare
    > > > > > > healthy. Furthermore a significant majority of those who consume an
    > > > > > > exclusively vegan diet are quite healthy. The American Dietetic
    > > > > > > Association has endorsed the position that appropriately-planned vegan
    > > > > > > diets are nutritionally adequate at all stages of life, and carry many
    > > > > > > significant health benefits.

    >
    > > > > > Yeah, but hamburgers taste so much better.

    >
    > > > > Well, if that's what you reckon then that's fine. I've been vegan for
    > > > > about 16 years and I definitely remember that I used to enjoy the
    > > > > taste of meat and I also think that I enjoy my food now about as much
    > > > > as I used to before I became vegan. And I also believe that by being
    > > > > vegan I'm reducing my expected contribution to animal suffering.

    >
    > > > > But you may find it unlikely that you would enjoy food and/or you may
    > > > > not find the consideration about animal suffering to be compelling.
    > > > > Which is of course your choice, I have no interest in trying to get
    > > > > you to change your mind.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > > > <
    > > > <Why do you enjoy inflicting pain onto vegetables and fruits?

    >
    > > > And the bugs that live on them!!!

    >
    > > > --Tedward

    >
    > > Of course insects die in order to produce my food. Plenty of small
    > > mammals die as well for that matter, crushed up in the combine
    > > harvester. I never made any claim that no suffering and premature
    > > death had to take place in order to produce my food. I am somewhat
    > > motivated to make some effort to reduce the amount of suffering that
    > > has to take place in order to produce my food and I have decided to be
    > > vegan because I think that that's a sensible strategy for achieving
    > > that goal. Others may have different priorities and as I said I have
    > > no interest in trying to get them to change their mind.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > > - Show quoted text -

    >
    > Rupert, how do you explain our canine eye teeth? *Are they for ripping
    > apart carrots? *No, they are for ripping apart animal flesh. *We are
    > meat eaters. * *To force a child against the very human nature they
    > are born with is child abuse of a sort. * It's like the disgusting
    > news stories of parents tatooing thier children becuase the parent
    > happens to be into tattoos. * It's that same selfish and narrow-minded
    > idea of forcing adult choices on a child.


    We have canine eye teeth because we have an evolutionary kinship with
    carnivorous species. We are capable of thriving on both omnivorous and
    vegetarian diets, like our primate ancestors. I've provided you with
    the position of the American Dietetic Association, which you can
    easily find on Google, and the opinions of two doctors with whom I
    have discussed the matter, both of whom have degrees in medicine and
    no kind of ideological animal-rights agenda. Also my experiences as a
    vegan and many vegan friends of mine. There might be some evidence
    that goes the other way, but you have yet to provide it. It is not
    child abuse to bring up a child as a vegan; it's perfectly safe for
    the child and the child can make its own decisions when it gets older.
    As I say, your opinions are ill-founded prejudices.

  12. #72
    Mr. N.A.Cho Guest

    Default Re: Vegetarian Breakfast Sausage (meatless sausage)

    On Oct 10, 11:44*am, Rupert <rupertmccal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > On Oct 10, 5:40*pm, "Mr. N.A.Cho" <ThisSpaceForR...@mail.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Oct 10, 11:38*am, Rupert <rupertmccal...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >
    > > > On Oct 10, 5:33*pm, "The Undead Edward M. Kennedy" <e...@o.com> wrote:

    >
    > > > > "CheeseHusker dos" <jonrus...@yahoo.com> wrote

    >
    > > > > > > > > >> Check this out Its great
    > > > > > > > > >>http://youtu.be/1LIyVBWaE_A

    >
    > > > > > > > > > It's ****. It's unpalatable ****.

    >
    > > > > > > > > > Why are "vegans" continually trying to make stuff look like and taste like meat? *Extremely* suspicious.

    >
    > > > > > > > > It's mostly for people who like meat but are trying to eat "healthy".

    >
    > > > > > > > > > No one likes "vegan" food - no one.

    >
    > > > > > > > > Some actually do, the problem is none of them are healthy.

    >
    > > > > > > > This isn't true. Just about everyone enjoys some food which is
    > > > > > > > suitable for vegans. And a significant majority of those people are
    > > > > > > > healthy. Furthermore a significant majority of those who consume an
    > > > > > > > exclusively vegan diet are quite healthy. The American Dietetic
    > > > > > > > Association has endorsed the position that appropriately-planned vegan
    > > > > > > > diets are nutritionally adequate at all stages of life, and carry many
    > > > > > > > significant health benefits.

    >
    > > > > > > Yeah, but hamburgers taste so much better.

    >
    > > > > > Well, if that's what you reckon then that's fine. I've been veganfor
    > > > > > about 16 years and I definitely remember that I used to enjoy the
    > > > > > taste of meat and I also think that I enjoy my food now about as much
    > > > > > as I used to before I became vegan. And I also believe that by being
    > > > > > vegan I'm reducing my expected contribution to animal suffering.

    >
    > > > > > But you may find it unlikely that you would enjoy food and/or youmay
    > > > > > not find the consideration about animal suffering to be compelling.
    > > > > > Which is of course your choice, I have no interest in trying to get
    > > > > > you to change your mind.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > > > > <
    > > > > <Why do you enjoy inflicting pain onto vegetables and fruits?

    >
    > > > > And the bugs that live on them!!!

    >
    > > > > --Tedward

    >
    > > > Of course insects die in order to produce my food. Plenty of small
    > > > mammals die as well for that matter, crushed up in the combine
    > > > harvester. I never made any claim that no suffering and premature
    > > > death had to take place in order to produce my food. I am somewhat
    > > > motivated to make some effort to reduce the amount of suffering that
    > > > has to take place in order to produce my food and I have decided to be
    > > > vegan because I think that that's a sensible strategy for achieving
    > > > that goal. Others may have different priorities and as I said I have
    > > > no interest in trying to get them to change their mind.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > > > - Show quoted text -

    >
    > > Rupert, how do you explain our canine eye teeth? *Are they for ripping
    > > apart carrots? *No, they are for ripping apart animal flesh. *We are
    > > meat eaters. * *To force a child against the very human nature they
    > > are born with is child abuse of a sort. * It's like the disgusting
    > > news stories of parents tatooing thier children becuase the parent
    > > happens to be into tattoos. * It's that same selfish and narrow-minded
    > > idea of forcing adult choices on a child.

    >
    > We have canine eye teeth because we have an evolutionary kinship with
    > carnivorous species. We are capable of thriving on both omnivorous and
    > vegetarian diets, like our primate ancestors. I've provided you with
    > the position of the American Dietetic Association, which you can
    > easily find on Google, and the opinions of two doctors with whom I
    > have discussed the matter, both of whom have degrees in medicine and
    > no kind of ideological animal-rights agenda. Also my experiences as a
    > vegan and many vegan friends of mine. There might be some evidence
    > that goes the other way, but you have yet to provide it. It is not
    > child abuse to bring up a child as a vegan; it's perfectly safe for
    > the child and the child can make its own decisions when it gets older.
    > As I say, your opinions are ill-founded prejudices.- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    what about social ostracism at school that will undoubtely occur when
    other children realize that your child is different?

  13. #73
    The Undead Edward M. Kennedy Guest

    Default Re: Vegetarian Breakfast Sausage (meatless sausage)

    "Rupert" <[email protected]> wrote

    > > > > > > >> Check this out Its great
    > > > > > > >>http://youtu.be/1LIyVBWaE_A

    >
    > > > > > > > It's ****. It's unpalatable ****.

    >
    > > > > > > > Why are "vegans" continually trying to make stuff look like and taste like meat? *Extremely* suspicious.

    >
    > > > > > > It's mostly for people who like meat but are trying to eat "healthy".

    >
    > > > > > > > No one likes "vegan" food - no one.

    >
    > > > > > > Some actually do, the problem is none of them are healthy.

    >
    > > > > > This isn't true. Just about everyone enjoys some food which is
    > > > > > suitable for vegans. And a significant majority of those people are
    > > > > > healthy. Furthermore a significant majority of those who consume an
    > > > > > exclusively vegan diet are quite healthy. The American Dietetic
    > > > > > Association has endorsed the position that appropriately-planned vegan
    > > > > > diets are nutritionally adequate at all stages of life, and carry many
    > > > > > significant health benefits.

    >
    > > > > > -----

    >
    > > > > > I was talking about vegans. While technically you and the ADD are
    > > > > > correct, it's like claiming unicorn farts are part of your diet. Show
    > > > > > me the vegan who can appropriate plan a diet at all stages of life,
    > > > > > and I'll show you a unicorn because people need meat and dairy.

    >
    > > > > > --Tedward

    >
    > > > > You're an idiot.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > > > <
    > > > <I'd like to see the type of person that's a cradle to grave vegan.

    >
    > > > The kid would break his hip taking the first step...

    >
    > > > --Tedward

    >
    > > Two friends of mine have been bringing up their children as vegan
    > > since birth (with the possible exception of breast milk, I am not
    > > sure). The children are perfectly well. One of them is about seven
    > > years old, I think.

    >
    > > -----

    >
    > > "exception of breast milk" indeed. A is A. Not A is not A.

    >
    > > You got two imaginary friends and Mr. Cho provided an actual picture.

    >
    > > --Tedward

    >
    > They are not imaginary friends. The fact that I don't have photos of
    > them to hand is irrelevant; photos would prove nothing. An image of an
    > anorexic person has no bearing on the issue.
    >
    > Your opinions are ignorant prejudices; you don't have any idea of what
    > you're talking about. If you did you would provide some real evidence.
    >
    > -----
    >
    > Now you're resorting to Ad Hominid attacks, a sure sign you've lost
    > the argument.
    >


    It's not an ad hominem argument. I am not basing my counter-argument
    on the assertion that your opinions are ignorant prejudices, I have
    given you plenty of good evidence to support my claims. The assertion
    that your opinions are ignorant prejudices is just a factual
    observation which I choose to put in there as well. It is quite
    obviously true because you have shown yourself to be incapable of
    producing any evidence to support your ill-founded beliefs.

    If you insist on remaining ignorant then it's no skin off my nose; I
    really couldn't care less.

    -----

    Evidence? We've provided a ton. You admit backhandedly that
    children need milk. We have canines. We've all seen sickly looking
    vegans (who BTW overlap with goths heavily).

    You sit on an arbitrary line of how much cruelty to animals is acceptable
    like some hoighty-toighty professor in an Ivory tower spewing BS that
    the real world doesn't care about.

    --Tedward



  14. #74
    Rupert Guest

    Default Re: Vegetarian Breakfast Sausage (meatless sausage)

    On Oct 10, 5:39*pm, CheeseHusker dos <jonrus...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > On Oct 10, 10:36*am, Rupert <rupertmccal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Oct 10, 5:32*pm, CheeseHusker dos <jonrus...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >
    > > > On Oct 10, 9:18*am, Rupert <rupertmccal...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >
    > > > > On Oct 10, 4:09*pm, "J.C. Watts" <jonens...@charter.net> wrote:

    >
    > > > > > On Oct 10, 3:26*am, Rupert <rupertmccal...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >
    > > > > > > On Oct 9, 8:40*pm, "The Undead Edward M. Kennedy" <e...@o.com> wrote:

    >
    > > > > > > > "George Plimpton" <geo...@si.not> wrote

    >
    > > > > > > > >> Check this out Its great
    > > > > > > > >>http://youtu.be/1LIyVBWaE_A

    >
    > > > > > > > > It's ****. *It's unpalatable ****.

    >
    > > > > > > > > Why are "vegans" continually trying to make stuff look likeand taste like meat? **Extremely* suspicious.

    >
    > > > > > > > It's mostly for people who like meat but are trying to eat "healthy".

    >
    > > > > > > > > No one likes "vegan" food - no one.

    >
    > > > > > > > Some actually do, the problem is none of them are healthy.

    >
    > > > > > > This isn't true. Just about everyone enjoys some food which is
    > > > > > > suitable for vegans. And a significant majority of those peopleare
    > > > > > > healthy. Furthermore a significant majority of those who consume an
    > > > > > > exclusively vegan diet are quite healthy. The American Dietetic
    > > > > > > Association has endorsed the position that appropriately-planned vegan
    > > > > > > diets are nutritionally adequate at all stages of life, and carry many
    > > > > > > significant health benefits.

    >
    > > > > > Yeah, but hamburgers taste so much better.

    >
    > > > > Well, if that's what you reckon then that's fine. I've been vegan for
    > > > > about 16 years and I definitely remember that I used to enjoy the
    > > > > taste of meat and I also think that I enjoy my food now about as much
    > > > > as I used to before I became vegan. And I also believe that by being
    > > > > vegan I'm reducing my expected contribution to animal suffering.

    >
    > > > > But you may find it unlikely that you would enjoy food and/or you may
    > > > > not find the consideration about animal suffering to be compelling.
    > > > > Which is of course your choice, I have no interest in trying to get
    > > > > you to change your mind.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > > > > - Show quoted text -

    >
    > > > Why do you enjoy inflicting pain onto vegetables and fruits?

    >
    > > No sensible person believes that vegetables and fruits are capable of
    > > experiencing pain.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > > - Show quoted text -

    >
    > wrong
    >
    > http://www.guardian.co.uk/notesandqu...-83446,00.html
    >


    The assertion is false. The person does not provide any citations of
    studies that support his point of view. In fact there is no credible
    scientific evidence that plants are capable of feeling pain, and no
    sane person would seriously claim that they are in any context other
    than trying to irritate a vegetarian. If you saw someone applying a
    blowtorch to a stray dog, you would call the police, but you wouldn't
    make any effort to intervene if you saw someone mowing their lawn.

    > At least when I eat cheese, I'm not killing the cow.
    >


    Not directly, no, but you are giving financial incentives to an
    industry which inflicts considerable suffering and premature death on
    a large number of cows. Dairy cows are killed when they outlive their
    usefulness, and their calves are used in the veal industry, which
    confines them in small crates too small for them to turn around and
    deliberately keeps them anemic so that their flesh will be pale and
    soft.

    http://www.ciwf.org.uk/farm_animals/...re_issues.aspx

    > What's it feel like to be a mass murderer and a major contributer to
    > global warming? *Why do you hate the earth?


    I have no idea what you are babbling on about. By becoming a vegan I
    have reduced my contribution to global warming, this is a well-
    established fact. Any carbon footprint calculator will ask you "are
    you a vegan", and the government of Britain agreed that it would be a
    good idea to try to persuade people to reduce their meat consumption
    in an effort to combat global warming.

    I think there's pretty overwhelming evidence that the production of my
    food causes less premature death and suffering of conscious creatures
    and environmental harm than that of the diet of a typical omnivore,
    but if you think otherwise then maybe you could make some kind of
    respectable effort at actually making your case. As far as I can tell
    you are making your assertions in complete ignorance and absence of
    any actual data.

    I also don't really know why you feel compelled to argue this point
    with me; you seem to be in some way threatened by what I have chosen
    to do. I'm not making any attempt to change your behaviour, I'm simply
    trying to clear up misconceptions about veganism being unhealthy and
    to explain the rationale for what I do. Your hostility and ill-founded
    attempts to cast moral aspersions strike me as irrational.

  15. #75
    Mr. N.A.Cho Guest

    Default Re: Vegetarian Breakfast Sausage (meatless sausage)

    On Oct 10, 11:47*am, "The Undead Edward M. Kennedy" <e...@o.com>
    wrote:
    > "Rupert" <rupertmccal...@yahoo.com> wrote
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > > > > > > >> Check this out Its great
    > > > > > > > >>http://youtu.be/1LIyVBWaE_A

    >
    > > > > > > > > It's ****. It's unpalatable ****.

    >
    > > > > > > > > Why are "vegans" continually trying to make stuff look likeand taste like meat? *Extremely* suspicious.

    >
    > > > > > > > It's mostly for people who like meat but are trying to eat "healthy".

    >
    > > > > > > > > No one likes "vegan" food - no one.

    >
    > > > > > > > Some actually do, the problem is none of them are healthy.

    >
    > > > > > > This isn't true. Just about everyone enjoys some food which is
    > > > > > > suitable for vegans. And a significant majority of those peopleare
    > > > > > > healthy. Furthermore a significant majority of those who consume an
    > > > > > > exclusively vegan diet are quite healthy. The American Dietetic
    > > > > > > Association has endorsed the position that appropriately-planned vegan
    > > > > > > diets are nutritionally adequate at all stages of life, and carry many
    > > > > > > significant health benefits.

    >
    > > > > > > -----

    >
    > > > > > > I was talking about vegans. While technically you and the ADD are
    > > > > > > correct, it's like claiming unicorn farts are part of your diet.. Show
    > > > > > > me the vegan who can appropriate plan a diet at all stages of life,
    > > > > > > and I'll show you a unicorn because people need meat and dairy.

    >
    > > > > > > --Tedward

    >
    > > > > > You're an idiot.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > > > > <
    > > > > <I'd like to see the type of person that's a cradle to grave vegan.

    >
    > > > > The kid would break his hip taking the first step...

    >
    > > > > --Tedward

    >
    > > > Two friends of mine have been bringing up their children as vegan
    > > > since birth (with the possible exception of breast milk, I am not
    > > > sure). The children are perfectly well. One of them is about seven
    > > > years old, I think.

    >
    > > > -----

    >
    > > > "exception of breast milk" indeed. A is A. Not A is not A.

    >
    > > > You got two imaginary friends and Mr. Cho provided an actual picture.

    >
    > > > --Tedward

    >
    > > They are not imaginary friends. The fact that I don't have photos of
    > > them to hand is irrelevant; photos would prove nothing. An image of an
    > > anorexic person has no bearing on the issue.

    >
    > > Your opinions are ignorant prejudices; you don't have any idea of what
    > > you're talking about. If you did you would provide some real evidence.

    >
    > > -----

    >
    > > Now you're resorting to Ad Hominid attacks, a sure sign you've lost
    > > the argument.

    >
    > It's not an ad hominem argument. I am not basing my counter-argument
    > on the assertion that your opinions are ignorant prejudices, I have
    > given you plenty of good evidence to support my claims. The assertion
    > that your opinions are ignorant prejudices is just a factual
    > observation which I choose to put in there as well. It is quite
    > obviously true because you have shown yourself to be incapable of
    > producing any evidence to support your ill-founded beliefs.
    >
    > If you insist on remaining ignorant then it's no skin off my nose; I
    > really couldn't care less.
    >
    > -----
    >
    > Evidence? *We've provided a ton. *You admit backhandedly that
    > children need milk. *We have canines. *We've all seen sickly looking
    > vegans (who BTW overlap with goths heavily).
    >


    maybe I'm shallow, hell I'll admit that I probably am - but you don't
    see many (ANY?) decent looking vegans. They all look pasty and
    malnourished. ****, comparing them to goths is being kind, I'd
    compare them to zombies.

  16. #76
    George Plimpton Guest

    Default Re: Vegetarian Breakfast Sausage (meatless sausage)

    On 10/10/2012 7:31 AM, Rupert wrote:
    > On Oct 10, 4:27 pm, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote:
    >> On 10/10/2012 7:22 AM, Rupert wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>> On Oct 10, 4:21 pm, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote:
    >>>> On 10/10/2012 1:24 AM, Rupert wrote:

    >>
    >>>>> On Oct 9, 5:43 pm, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote:
    >>>>>> On 10/9/2012 8:12 AM, Rupert wrote:

    >>
    >>>>>>> On Oct 9, 5:03 pm, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote:
    >>>>>>>> On 10/9/2012 3:34 AM, Rupert wrote:

    >>
    >>>>>>>>> On Oct 8, 7:07 pm, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>> On 10/8/2012 9:37 AM, spamtrap1888 wrote:

    >>
    >>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 8, 9:01 am, Rupert <rupertmccal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 8, 5:45 pm, spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1...@gmail.com> wrote:

    >>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 8, 4:50 am, Rupert <rupertmccal...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 8:00 am, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote:

    >>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/20/2012 3:04 PM, Just.Some.guy wrote:

    >>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Check this out Its great
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://youtu.be/1LIyVBWaE_A

    >>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's ****. It's unpalatable ****.

    >>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How would you be in a position to know?

    >>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why are "vegans" continually trying to make stuff look like and taste
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like meat? *Extremely* suspicious.

    >>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why?

    >>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think they call vegan meat Satan?

    >>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't realize they did call it that.

    >>
    >>>>>>>>>>> They changed the spelling to throw people off the track.:

    >>
    >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.vrg.org/recipes/vjseitan.htm

    >>
    >>>>>>>>>> Ha ha ha ha ha - good one!

    >>
    >>>>>>>>> You thought it was a good joke?

    >>
    >>>>>>>> It was a great joke, especially because you fell for it.

    >>
    >>>>>>> I don't really understand why you think I fell for it.

    >>
    >>>>>> Because I saw you fall for it. You fell right over.

    >>
    >>>>> I don't understand what you mean. What happened was that I said I
    >>>>> didn't realize that they called vegan meat Satan, which is of course
    >>>>> true. At that stage I didn't realize that he wanted to make a pun on
    >>>>> the names of one of the mock meats, but then he explained himself.

    >>
    >>>> <chortle>

    >>
    >>> You don't seem to be willing to explain yourself.

    >>
    >> What's to explain? You're a dope, that's all.

    >
    > So you obviously believe, but I fail to understand what reasons you
    > think you have in favour of this view.


    Ha ha ha! You just gave yet another reason!


  17. #77
    The Undead Edward M. Kennedy Guest

    Default Re: Vegetarian Breakfast Sausage (meatless sausage)

    "Mr. N.A.Cho" <[email protected]> wrote

    > > > > > > > >> Check this out Its great
    > > > > > > > >>http://youtu.be/1LIyVBWaE_A

    >
    > > > > > > > > It's ****. It's unpalatable ****.

    >
    > > > > > > > > Why are "vegans" continually trying to make stuff look like and taste like meat? *Extremely* suspicious.

    >
    > > > > > > > It's mostly for people who like meat but are trying to eat "healthy".

    >
    > > > > > > > > No one likes "vegan" food - no one.

    >
    > > > > > > > Some actually do, the problem is none of them are healthy.

    >
    > > > > > > This isn't true. Just about everyone enjoys some food which is
    > > > > > > suitable for vegans. And a significant majority of those people are
    > > > > > > healthy. Furthermore a significant majority of those who consume an
    > > > > > > exclusively vegan diet are quite healthy. The American Dietetic
    > > > > > > Association has endorsed the position that appropriately-planned vegan
    > > > > > > diets are nutritionally adequate at all stages of life, and carry many
    > > > > > > significant health benefits.

    >
    > > > > > > -----

    >
    > > > > > > I was talking about vegans. While technically you and the ADD are
    > > > > > > correct, it's like claiming unicorn farts are part of your diet. Show
    > > > > > > me the vegan who can appropriate plan a diet at all stages of life,
    > > > > > > and I'll show you a unicorn because people need meat and dairy.

    >
    > > > > > > --Tedward

    >
    > > > > > You're an idiot.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > > > > <
    > > > > <I'd like to see the type of person that's a cradle to grave vegan.

    >
    > > > > The kid would break his hip taking the first step...

    >
    > > > > --Tedward

    >
    > > > Two friends of mine have been bringing up their children as vegan
    > > > since birth (with the possible exception of breast milk, I am not
    > > > sure). The children are perfectly well. One of them is about seven
    > > > years old, I think.

    >
    > > > -----

    >
    > > > "exception of breast milk" indeed. A is A. Not A is not A.

    >
    > > > You got two imaginary friends and Mr. Cho provided an actual picture.

    >
    > > > --Tedward

    >
    > > They are not imaginary friends. The fact that I don't have photos of
    > > them to hand is irrelevant; photos would prove nothing. An image of an
    > > anorexic person has no bearing on the issue.

    >
    > > Your opinions are ignorant prejudices; you don't have any idea of what
    > > you're talking about. If you did you would provide some real evidence.

    >
    > > -----

    >
    > > Now you're resorting to Ad Hominid attacks, a sure sign you've lost
    > > the argument.

    >
    > It's not an ad hominem argument. I am not basing my counter-argument
    > on the assertion that your opinions are ignorant prejudices, I have
    > given you plenty of good evidence to support my claims. The assertion
    > that your opinions are ignorant prejudices is just a factual
    > observation which I choose to put in there as well. It is quite
    > obviously true because you have shown yourself to be incapable of
    > producing any evidence to support your ill-founded beliefs.
    >
    > If you insist on remaining ignorant then it's no skin off my nose; I
    > really couldn't care less.
    >
    > -----
    >
    > Evidence? We've provided a ton. You admit backhandedly that
    > children need milk. We have canines. We've all seen sickly looking
    > vegans (who BTW overlap with goths heavily).
    >


    maybe I'm shallow, hell I'll admit that I probably am - but you don't
    see many (ANY?) decent looking vegans. They all look pasty and
    malnourished. ****, comparing them to goths is being kind, I'd
    compare them to zombies.

    -----

    My impression is that Goths probably have one of the highest
    percentage of vegans, all that bloodsucking BS notwithstanding.

    --Tedward



  18. #78
    J.C. Watts Guest

    Default Re: Vegetarian Breakfast Sausage (meatless sausage)

    On Oct 10, 9:18*am, Rupert <rupertmccal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > On Oct 10, 4:09*pm, "J.C. Watts" <jonens...@charter.net> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Oct 10, 3:26*am, Rupert <rupertmccal...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >
    > > > On Oct 9, 8:40*pm, "The Undead Edward M. Kennedy" <e...@o.com> wrote:

    >
    > > > > "George Plimpton" <geo...@si.not> wrote

    >
    > > > > >> Check this out Its great
    > > > > >>http://youtu.be/1LIyVBWaE_A

    >
    > > > > > It's ****. *It's unpalatable ****.

    >
    > > > > > Why are "vegans" continually trying to make stuff look like and taste like meat? **Extremely* suspicious.

    >
    > > > > It's mostly for people who like meat but are trying to eat "healthy".

    >
    > > > > > No one likes "vegan" food - no one.

    >
    > > > > Some actually do, the problem is none of them are healthy.

    >
    > > > This isn't true. Just about everyone enjoys some food which is
    > > > suitable for vegans. And a significant majority of those people are
    > > > healthy. Furthermore a significant majority of those who consume an
    > > > exclusively vegan diet are quite healthy. The American Dietetic
    > > > Association has endorsed the position that appropriately-planned vegan
    > > > diets are nutritionally adequate at all stages of life, and carry many
    > > > significant health benefits.

    >
    > > Yeah, but hamburgers taste so much better.

    >
    > Well, if that's what you reckon then that's fine. I've been vegan for
    > about 16 years and I definitely remember that I used to enjoy the
    > taste of meat and I also think that I enjoy my food now about as much
    > as I used to before I became vegan. And I also believe that by being
    > vegan I'm reducing my expected contribution to animal suffering.
    >
    > But you may find it unlikely that you would enjoy food and/or you may
    > not find the consideration about animal suffering to be compelling.
    > Which is of course your choice, I have no interest in trying to get
    > you to change your mind.




    Yeah, I get all upset about animal "suffering"....

    .....until I eat one.

    Damn are they tasty.

  19. #79
    J.C. Watts Guest

    Default Re: Vegetarian Breakfast Sausage (meatless sausage)

    On Oct 10, 10:46*am, "Mr. N.A.Cho" <ThisSpaceForR...@mail.com> wrote:
    > On Oct 10, 11:44*am, Rupert <rupertmccal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Oct 10, 5:40*pm, "Mr. N.A.Cho" <ThisSpaceForR...@mail.com> wrote:

    >
    > > > On Oct 10, 11:38*am, Rupert <rupertmccal...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >
    > > > > On Oct 10, 5:33*pm, "The Undead Edward M. Kennedy" <e...@o.com> wrote:

    >
    > > > > > "CheeseHusker dos" <jonrus...@yahoo.com> wrote

    >
    > > > > > > > > > >> Check this out Its great
    > > > > > > > > > >>http://youtu.be/1LIyVBWaE_A

    >
    > > > > > > > > > > It's ****. It's unpalatable ****.

    >
    > > > > > > > > > > Why are "vegans" continually trying to make stuff look like and taste like meat? *Extremely* suspicious.

    >
    > > > > > > > > > It's mostly for people who like meat but are trying to eat "healthy".

    >
    > > > > > > > > > > No one likes "vegan" food - no one.

    >
    > > > > > > > > > Some actually do, the problem is none of them are healthy..

    >
    > > > > > > > > This isn't true. Just about everyone enjoys some food whichis
    > > > > > > > > suitable for vegans. And a significant majority of those people are
    > > > > > > > > healthy. Furthermore a significant majority of those who consume an
    > > > > > > > > exclusively vegan diet are quite healthy. The American Dietetic
    > > > > > > > > Association has endorsed the position that appropriately-planned vegan
    > > > > > > > > diets are nutritionally adequate at all stages of life, andcarry many
    > > > > > > > > significant health benefits.

    >
    > > > > > > > Yeah, but hamburgers taste so much better.

    >
    > > > > > > Well, if that's what you reckon then that's fine. I've been vegan for
    > > > > > > about 16 years and I definitely remember that I used to enjoy the
    > > > > > > taste of meat and I also think that I enjoy my food now about as much
    > > > > > > as I used to before I became vegan. And I also believe that by being
    > > > > > > vegan I'm reducing my expected contribution to animal suffering..

    >
    > > > > > > But you may find it unlikely that you would enjoy food and/or you may
    > > > > > > not find the consideration about animal suffering to be compelling.
    > > > > > > Which is of course your choice, I have no interest in trying toget
    > > > > > > you to change your mind.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > > > > > <
    > > > > > <Why do you enjoy inflicting pain onto vegetables and fruits?

    >
    > > > > > And the bugs that live on them!!!

    >
    > > > > > --Tedward

    >
    > > > > Of course insects die in order to produce my food. Plenty of small
    > > > > mammals die as well for that matter, crushed up in the combine
    > > > > harvester. I never made any claim that no suffering and premature
    > > > > death had to take place in order to produce my food. I am somewhat
    > > > > motivated to make some effort to reduce the amount of suffering that
    > > > > has to take place in order to produce my food and I have decided tobe
    > > > > vegan because I think that that's a sensible strategy for achieving
    > > > > that goal. Others may have different priorities and as I said I have
    > > > > no interest in trying to get them to change their mind.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > > > > - Show quoted text -

    >
    > > > Rupert, how do you explain our canine eye teeth? *Are they for ripping
    > > > apart carrots? *No, they are for ripping apart animal flesh. *We are
    > > > meat eaters. * *To force a child against the very human nature they
    > > > are born with is child abuse of a sort. * It's like the disgusting
    > > > news stories of parents tatooing thier children becuase the parent
    > > > happens to be into tattoos. * It's that same selfish and narrow-minded
    > > > idea of forcing adult choices on a child.

    >
    > > We have canine eye teeth because we have an evolutionary kinship with
    > > carnivorous species. We are capable of thriving on both omnivorous and
    > > vegetarian diets, like our primate ancestors. I've provided you with
    > > the position of the American Dietetic Association, which you can
    > > easily find on Google, and the opinions of two doctors with whom I
    > > have discussed the matter, both of whom have degrees in medicine and
    > > no kind of ideological animal-rights agenda. Also my experiences as a
    > > vegan and many vegan friends of mine. There might be some evidence
    > > that goes the other way, but you have yet to provide it. It is not
    > > child abuse to bring up a child as a vegan; it's perfectly safe for
    > > the child and the child can make its own decisions when it gets older.
    > > As I say, your opinions are ill-founded prejudices.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > > - Show quoted text -

    >
    > what about social ostracism at school that will undoubtely occur when
    > other children realize that your child is different?



    "Why doesn't Jimmy drink milk?"

  20. #80
    CheeseHusker dos Guest

    Default Re: Vegetarian Breakfast Sausage (meatless sausage)

    On Oct 10, 10:53*am, Rupert <rupertmccal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > On Oct 10, 5:39*pm, CheeseHusker dos <jonrus...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Oct 10, 10:36*am, Rupert <rupertmccal...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >
    > > > On Oct 10, 5:32*pm, CheeseHusker dos <jonrus...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >
    > > > > On Oct 10, 9:18*am, Rupert <rupertmccal...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >
    > > > > > On Oct 10, 4:09*pm, "J.C. Watts" <jonens...@charter.net> wrote:

    >
    > > > > > > On Oct 10, 3:26*am, Rupert <rupertmccal...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >
    > > > > > > > On Oct 9, 8:40*pm, "The Undead Edward M. Kennedy" <e...@o.com> wrote:

    >
    > > > > > > > > "George Plimpton" <geo...@si.not> wrote

    >
    > > > > > > > > >> Check this out Its great
    > > > > > > > > >>http://youtu.be/1LIyVBWaE_A

    >
    > > > > > > > > > It's ****. *It's unpalatable ****.

    >
    > > > > > > > > > Why are "vegans" continually trying to make stuff look like and taste like meat? **Extremely* suspicious.

    >
    > > > > > > > > It's mostly for people who like meat but are trying to eat "healthy".

    >
    > > > > > > > > > No one likes "vegan" food - no one.

    >
    > > > > > > > > Some actually do, the problem is none of them are healthy.

    >
    > > > > > > > This isn't true. Just about everyone enjoys some food which is
    > > > > > > > suitable for vegans. And a significant majority of those people are
    > > > > > > > healthy. Furthermore a significant majority of those who consume an
    > > > > > > > exclusively vegan diet are quite healthy. The American Dietetic
    > > > > > > > Association has endorsed the position that appropriately-planned vegan
    > > > > > > > diets are nutritionally adequate at all stages of life, and carry many
    > > > > > > > significant health benefits.

    >
    > > > > > > Yeah, but hamburgers taste so much better.

    >
    > > > > > Well, if that's what you reckon then that's fine. I've been veganfor
    > > > > > about 16 years and I definitely remember that I used to enjoy the
    > > > > > taste of meat and I also think that I enjoy my food now about as much
    > > > > > as I used to before I became vegan. And I also believe that by being
    > > > > > vegan I'm reducing my expected contribution to animal suffering.

    >
    > > > > > But you may find it unlikely that you would enjoy food and/or youmay
    > > > > > not find the consideration about animal suffering to be compelling.
    > > > > > Which is of course your choice, I have no interest in trying to get
    > > > > > you to change your mind.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > > > > > - Show quoted text -

    >
    > > > > Why do you enjoy inflicting pain onto vegetables and fruits?

    >
    > > > No sensible person believes that vegetables and fruits are capable of
    > > > experiencing pain.- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > > > - Show quoted text -

    >
    > > wrong

    >
    > >http://www.guardian.co.uk/notesandqu...-83446,00.html

    >
    > The assertion is false. The person does not provide any citations of
    > studies that support his point of view.


    And yours are......where? Oh that's right- made up from hot air

    > > At least when I eat cheese, I'm not killing the cow.

    >
    > Not directly, no, but you are giving financial incentives to an
    > industry which inflicts considerable suffering and premature death on
    > a large number of cows.


    Wow - and now you toss organic farmers under the bus too. Nice.

    > > What's it feel like to be a mass murderer and a major contributer to
    > > global warming? *Why do you hate the earth?

    >
    > I have no idea what you are babbling on about. By becoming a vegan I
    > have reduced my contribution to global warming, this is a well-
    > established fact.


    Plants use CO2 - in case you didn't know. You eat plants. Therefore
    you are helping to increase the amount of CO2 in the air.

    Nice.


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