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Old 02-07-2010, 03:31 AM
Chuck Kopsho
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Default Trans Fats

Are there any food products still with trans fats available anywhere
in the U.S.A.? I find that foods with trans fats taste much better. Any
thoughts?

Cheers!
Chuck Kopsho
Oceanside, California

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Old 02-07-2010, 03:54 AM
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On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 20:31:05 -0800, Chuck Kopsho wrote:

> Are there any food products still with trans fats available anywhere
> in the U.S.A.?


I just bought and read the label of Gardetto's Roasted Garlic Rye
Chips. I never thought to look, it's just bread, right?

A 30gr serving has 10 grams of fat, 3 of them are Trans Fat.\

Those Frito Lay cheese filled crackers (Packs of 6 at the Quickie
Mart) have 3.5 grams per package.

> I find that foods with trans fats taste much better. Any thoughts?


Every thread you start you always ask the same question and the
answer is always the same: You're An Idiot.

-sw
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Old 02-07-2010, 04:07 AM
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Chuck Kopsho wrote:
> Are there any food products still with trans fats available anywhere
> in the U.S.A.? I find that foods with trans fats taste much better. Any
> thoughts?
>
> Cheers!
> Chuck Kopsho
> Oceanside, California
>



You can get the same great taste by using coconut oil. Some people
say it's good for you, some people say it's terrible for you, so
either way you win. HTH :-)

Bob
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Old 02-07-2010, 04:39 AM
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On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:07:19 -0600, zxcvbob wrote:

> You can get the same great taste by using coconut oil. Some people
> say it's good for you, some people say it's terrible for you, so
> either way you win. HTH :-)


A lot of manufacturers use it not for taste, but for shelf-life.
And it's cheaper than lard (which also suffers from short life
span).

Coconut oil, while also solid at room temp, does not have the life
span in processed foods (with questionable packaging like those
cheese crackers I mention).

-sw
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Old 02-07-2010, 09:15 AM
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On Feb 6, 10:31*pm, IrwinAll...@webtv.net (Chuck Kopsho) wrote:
> * Are there any food products still with *trans fats available anywhere
> in the U.S.A.? I find that foods with trans fats taste much better. Any
> thoughts?
>
> Cheers!
> Chuck Kopsho
> Oceanside, California



Within the next five years or so, I'll be looking for the postage
stamp sized story that says "Remember all the trans fat hysteria?
Well, it turns out that that was just another flaming bag of
fearmongering dog poop that got tossed onto America's porch." When it
happens, and it will, I'll just toss it on the shelf next to:

Bird Flu is going to kill us all
Allar is going to kill us all
Cholesterol is going to kill us all
Not getting an H1N1 shot is going to kill us all
Secondhand smoke is going to kill us all
Riding a bike without a helmet will kill your child
Popcorn is going to kill us all
Coffee is going to kill us all
Eggs are going to kill us
e Coli is going to kill us
Rare meat is going to kill us
Direct grilling is deadly
Plastic water bottles cause cancer
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Old 02-07-2010, 03:16 PM
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On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 23:39:44 -0600, Sqwertz wrote:

> On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:07:19 -0600, zxcvbob wrote:
>
>> You can get the same great taste by using coconut oil. Some people
>> say it's good for you, some people say it's terrible for you, so
>> either way you win. HTH :-)

>
> A lot of manufacturers use it not for taste, but for shelf-life.
> And it's cheaper than lard (which also suffers from short life
> span).
>


i thought most of the laws concerned food prepared on-premises, not
mass-produced stuff. don't twinkies still have it?

your pal,
blake
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Old 02-07-2010, 04:51 PM
Dan Abel
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Default Re: Trans Fats

In article <12665-4B6E4209-8587@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net>,
IrwinAllen1@webtv.net (Chuck Kopsho) wrote:

> Are there any food products still with trans fats available anywhere
> in the U.S.A.? I find that foods with trans fats taste much better. Any
> thoughts?


Butter has some naturally occurring transfats. And, of course, it
tastes good, at least to most people.

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Petaluma, California USA
dabel@sonic.net
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Old 02-08-2010, 04:01 AM
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On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 11:16:52 -0500, blake murphy wrote:

> On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 23:39:44 -0600, Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:07:19 -0600, zxcvbob wrote:
>>
>>> You can get the same great taste by using coconut oil. Some people
>>> say it's good for you, some people say it's terrible for you, so
>>> either way you win. HTH :-)

>>
>> A lot of manufacturers use it not for taste, but for shelf-life.
>> And it's cheaper than lard (which also suffers from short life
>> span).
>>

>
> i thought most of the laws concerned food prepared on-premises, not
> mass-produced stuff. don't twinkies still have it?


None of the laws affect manufacturers use of partially hydrogenated
oils. These are all local laws. No state or city can pass a law
that affects a manufacturer's ability to engages in interstate
commerce. Most restaurants do not engage such activities to be
protected by Interstate Commerce laws.

But places like Marie Calendars *could* sell mail order pies with
trans-fats anywhere they want. And they may be exempt for in-store
sales in jurisdictions that *do* have trans-fats laws, even if they
are based in that jurisdiction. But IANAL.

I wonder if I open a non-profit, religion-based restaurant, if I
could use trans-fats or would I forfeit my right to freedom of
religion?

-sw
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Old 02-08-2010, 11:38 AM
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On Feb 7, 4:15*am, Christopher Helms <Chrishelms...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Feb 6, 10:31*pm, IrwinAll...@webtv.net (Chuck Kopsho) wrote:
>
> > * Are there any food products still with *trans fats available anywhere
> > in the U.S.A.? I find that foods with trans fats taste much better. Any
> > thoughts?

>
> > Cheers!
> > Chuck Kopsho
> > Oceanside, California

>
> Within the next five years or so, I'll be looking for the postage
> stamp sized story that says "Remember all the trans fat hysteria?
> Well, it turns out that that was just another flaming bag of
> fearmongering dog poop that got tossed onto America's porch." When it
> happens, and it will, I'll just toss it on the shelf next to:


> Secondhand smoke is going to kill us all


No one said it would kill us all, but it does kill.

> Riding a bike without a helmet will kill your child


This proves what an idiot you are.
http://www.stlouischildrens.org/cont...BikeSafety.htm

--Bryan

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Old 02-08-2010, 01:31 PM
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Christopher Helms wrote:
>
> ...just another flaming bag of fearmongering dog poop that got
> tossed onto America's porch.


Very nice metaphor. I'll try to find an excuse to use it at work
this week :-)

Bob
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Old 02-08-2010, 02:10 PM
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Aren't all natural fats trans and cis fats not natural?
So all oils are trans excepting for those who had heat threatement and hidrogenization with H2
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Old 02-08-2010, 04:00 PM
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Christopher Helms wrote:
> Bird Flu is going to kill us all
> Allar is going to kill us all
> Cholesterol is going to kill us all
> Not getting an H1N1 shot is going to kill us all
> Secondhand smoke is going to kill us all
> Riding a bike without a helmet will kill your child
> Popcorn is going to kill us all
> Coffee is going to kill us all
> Eggs are going to kill us
> e Coli is going to kill us
> Rare meat is going to kill us
> Direct grilling is deadly
> Plastic water bottles cause cancer
>


Don't forget Legionaire's Disease and Monkey Pox.


Becca
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Old 02-08-2010, 07:59 PM
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Becca wrote:
> Christopher Helms wrote:
>> Bird Flu is going to kill us all
>> Allar is going to kill us all
>> Cholesterol is going to kill us all
>> Not getting an H1N1 shot is going to kill us all
>> Secondhand smoke is going to kill us all
>> Riding a bike without a helmet will kill your child
>> Popcorn is going to kill us all
>> Coffee is going to kill us all
>> Eggs are going to kill us
>> e Coli is going to kill us
>> Rare meat is going to kill us
>> Direct grilling is deadly
>> Plastic water bottles cause cancer
>>

>
> Don't forget Legionaire's Disease and Monkey Pox.
>
> Becca


Age will kill us too!
Dora
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Old 02-08-2010, 10:03 PM
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Dora wrote:
> Becca wrote:
>> Christopher Helms wrote:
>>> Bird Flu is going to kill us all
>>> Allar is going to kill us all
>>> Cholesterol is going to kill us all
>>> Not getting an H1N1 shot is going to kill us all
>>> Secondhand smoke is going to kill us all
>>> Riding a bike without a helmet will kill your child
>>> Popcorn is going to kill us all
>>> Coffee is going to kill us all
>>> Eggs are going to kill us
>>> e Coli is going to kill us
>>> Rare meat is going to kill us
>>> Direct grilling is deadly
>>> Plastic water bottles cause cancer
>>>

>>
>> Don't forget Legionaire's Disease and Monkey Pox.
>>
>> Becca

>
> Age will kill us too!
> Dora


Death, life's evil twin.


Becca
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Old 02-09-2010, 07:22 AM
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On Feb 8, 11:00*am, Becca <be...@hal-pc.org> wrote:
> Christopher Helms wrote:
> > Bird Flu is going to kill us all
> > Allar is going to kill us all
> > Cholesterol is going to kill us all
> > Not getting an H1N1 shot is going to kill us all
> > Secondhand smoke is going to kill us all
> > Riding a bike without a helmet will kill your child
> > Popcorn is going to kill us all
> > Coffee is going to kill us all
> > Eggs are going to kill us
> > e Coli is going to kill us
> > Rare meat is going to kill us
> > Direct grilling is deadly
> > Plastic water bottles cause cancer

>
> Don't forget Legionaire's Disease and Monkey Pox.
>
> Becca



I did forget those. Also, I am recently informed that drinking two
bottles of regular old Coca-Cola a week is now a pancreatic cancer
threat.
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Old 02-09-2010, 07:24 AM
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On Feb 8, 8:31*am, zxcvbob <zxcv...@charter.net> wrote:
> Christopher Helms wrote:
>
> > ...just another flaming bag of fearmongering dog poop that got
> > tossed onto America's porch.

>
> Very nice metaphor. *I'll try to find an excuse to use it at work
> this week :-)
>
> Bob



I felt pretty good about that metaphor myself.
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Old 02-09-2010, 07:34 AM
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On 9/02/2010 10:03 AM, Becca wrote:
> Dora wrote:
>> Becca wrote:
>>> Christopher Helms wrote:
>>>> Bird Flu is going to kill us all
>>>> Allar is going to kill us all
>>>> Cholesterol is going to kill us all
>>>> Not getting an H1N1 shot is going to kill us all
>>>> Secondhand smoke is going to kill us all
>>>> Riding a bike without a helmet will kill your child
>>>> Popcorn is going to kill us all
>>>> Coffee is going to kill us all
>>>> Eggs are going to kill us
>>>> e Coli is going to kill us
>>>> Rare meat is going to kill us
>>>> Direct grilling is deadly
>>>> Plastic water bottles cause cancer
>>>>
>>>
>>> Don't forget Legionaire's Disease and Monkey Pox.
>>>
>>> Becca

>>
>> Age will kill us too!
>> Dora

>
> Death, life's evil twin.
>
> Becca


None of us, without exception, will get out of here alive!


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Old 02-09-2010, 11:35 AM
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Christopher Helms wrote:
> On Feb 8, 11:00 am, Becca <be...@hal-pc.org> wrote:
>> Christopher Helms wrote:
>>> Bird Flu is going to kill us all
>>> Allar is going to kill us all
>>> Cholesterol is going to kill us all
>>> Not getting an H1N1 shot is going to kill us all
>>> Secondhand smoke is going to kill us all
>>> Riding a bike without a helmet will kill your child
>>> Popcorn is going to kill us all
>>> Coffee is going to kill us all
>>> Eggs are going to kill us
>>> e Coli is going to kill us
>>> Rare meat is going to kill us
>>> Direct grilling is deadly
>>> Plastic water bottles cause cancer

>> Don't forget Legionaire's Disease and Monkey Pox.
>>
>> Becca

>
>
> I did forget those. Also, I am recently informed that drinking two
> bottles of regular old Coca-Cola a week is now a pancreatic cancer
> threat.


Link? Having recently perused the list of ingredients on Coke
(which I never drink), I am curious about this.

--
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Old 02-09-2010, 05:03 PM
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On Feb 9, 6:35*am, "Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote:
> Christopher Helms wrote:
> > On Feb 8, 11:00 am, Becca <be...@hal-pc.org> wrote:
> >> Christopher Helms wrote:
> >>> Bird Flu is going to kill us all
> >>> Allar is going to kill us all
> >>> Cholesterol is going to kill us all
> >>> Not getting an H1N1 shot is going to kill us all
> >>> Secondhand smoke is going to kill us all
> >>> Riding a bike without a helmet will kill your child
> >>> Popcorn is going to kill us all
> >>> Coffee is going to kill us all
> >>> Eggs are going to kill us
> >>> e Coli is going to kill us
> >>> Rare meat is going to kill us
> >>> Direct grilling is deadly
> >>> Plastic water bottles cause cancer
> >> Don't forget Legionaire's Disease and Monkey Pox.

>
> >> Becca

>
> > I did forget those. Also, I am recently informed that drinking two
> > bottles of regular old Coca-Cola a week is now a pancreatic cancer
> > threat.

>
> Link? *Having recently perused the list of ingredients on Coke
> (which I never drink), I am curious about this.
>
> --
> Jean B.



The story is about regular soda in general, not specifically Coke,
although that would obviously be included.

http://rawstory.com/2010/02/study-li...reatic-cancer/
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Old 02-09-2010, 05:26 PM
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Jean B. wrote:
> Christopher Helms wrote:
>> On Feb 8, 11:00 am, Becca <be...@hal-pc.org> wrote:
>>> Christopher Helms wrote:
>>>> Bird Flu is going to kill us all
>>>> Allar is going to kill us all
>>>> Cholesterol is going to kill us all
>>>> Not getting an H1N1 shot is going to kill us all
>>>> Secondhand smoke is going to kill us all
>>>> Riding a bike without a helmet will kill your child
>>>> Popcorn is going to kill us all
>>>> Coffee is going to kill us all
>>>> Eggs are going to kill us
>>>> e Coli is going to kill us
>>>> Rare meat is going to kill us
>>>> Direct grilling is deadly
>>>> Plastic water bottles cause cancer
>>> Don't forget Legionaire's Disease and Monkey Pox.
>>>
>>> Becca

>>
>>
>> I did forget those. Also, I am recently informed that drinking two
>> bottles of regular old Coca-Cola a week is now a pancreatic cancer
>> threat.

>
> Link? Having recently perused the list of ingredients on Coke
> (which I never drink), I am curious about this.


Googling "coca cola pancreatic cancer" found a bunch of links. It seems
that it's not just Coca Cola, it's any sugar sweetened soft drink.

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