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Thread: tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer

  1. #21
    Bryan Guest

    Default Re: tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer

    On Oct 9, 9:15*pm, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.net> wrote:
    > On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:25:31 -0700 (PDT), Chemo <bhansen1...@yahoo.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >On Oct 9, 4:23 pm, "Somebody" <e...@mail.au> wrote:
    > >> Why is tea good cold or hot, but beer is only good when cold?

    >
    > >What, you never drank Guinness warm? Oh that's right...you drink Pabst.

    >
    > Given a choice between the two, Pabst would win. *IMO, Guinness is the
    > worst beer I ever tasted. *Tried it twice but could not finish it. The
    > popularity of it puzzles me.


    The Extra Stout is good. The stuff in the cans with the widget does
    suck.

    1 - 12 oz bottle of Guinness Extra Stout + 3 - 12 oz bottles of
    Michelob Ultra = 3 pints of good tasting beer.

    --Bryan

  2. #22
    Bryan Guest

    Default Re: tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer

    On Oct 10, 4:25*am, "Somebody" <e...@mail.au> wrote:
    > "Helpful person" <rrl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    >
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    > Thank heavens there's one person who knows what Guinness should be.
    > When living in Great Britain in the 1970s I was a fanatic beer
    > drinker, sometimes traveling 50 miles to try a new real ale. *There
    > was a lot spoken (with good reason) regarding the need for beer to
    > ferment in the pub and be pumped by lift pumps, not carbon dioxide.
    > Some of those beers are amazing.
    >
    > ---
    >
    > I'm trying to find Henry Weinhard's pale blue ale... *Had it out West. *But
    > I don't think I can drive 4 hours to St Louis.


    Why? I drive 5 hours *from* St. Louis (Chicago) at least twice a
    year.

    Are you close enough to STL to buy this?
    http://schlafly.com/beers/styles/dry-hopped-apa/
    They sell it in these little 3.3 gallon keglets for $36, but only at
    the downtown brewery.
    I haven't bought a keg of any other beer in many years.

    --Bryan

  3. #23
    notbob Guest

    Default Re: tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer

    On 2012-10-10, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:

    > worst beer I ever tasted. Tried it twice but could not finish it. The
    > popularity of it puzzles me.


    You jes do NOT have a taste for it. I had to acquire a taste for
    ales. In short, my palate was trained to enjoy those types of beers
    over a period of about a year. Now I can't enjoy a US mega-swill.
    Canoe beer, I call 'em.

    To bad you couldn't find a place that serves barrel draft room temp
    Guinness. I once had a pint bought for me. "Uh-oh. I hate dark
    beer.", I thought to myself as it was delivered to our table. To my
    amazement, it was very good. The only place I know that did the is
    The Shamrock Pub in SF and that was 40 yrs ago. I doubt they still do
    it like that anymore. In fact, I doubt Guinness even makes beer like
    that anymore.

    At that time, The Shamrock was SO Irish, we were once told --politely,
    but in no uncertain terms-- to leave the premises, pints unfinished.
    I've no doubt they were about to convene an IRA meeting. True story.

    nb


    --
    Definition of objectivism:
    "Eff you! I got mine."
    http://www.nongmoproject.org/

  4. #24
    notbob Guest

    Default Re: tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer

    On 2012-10-10, Paul M. Cook <[email protected]> wrote:

    > possibly the best beer in the world.


    I don't know I'd go that far, but it is a GOOD beer. Of that there
    can be no arguement. Heck, even a bad Guinness (canned) is a good
    beer.

    nb

    --
    Definition of objectivism:
    "Eff you! I got mine."
    http://www.nongmoproject.org/

  5. #25
    Nunya Bidnits Guest

    Default Re: tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer

    Paul M. Cook <[email protected]> wrote:
    > "pavane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:HI5ds.573994$[email protected]..
    >>
    >> "Ed Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]..
    >>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:25:31 -0700 (PDT), Chemo
    >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On Oct 9, 4:23 pm, "Somebody" <e...@mail.au> wrote:
    >>>>> Why is tea good cold or hot, but beer is only good when cold?
    >>>>
    >>>> What, you never drank Guinness warm? Oh that's right...you drink
    >>>> Pabst.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Given a choice between the two, Pabst would win. IMO, Guinness is
    >>> the worst beer I ever tasted. Tried it twice but could not finish
    >>> it. The popularity of it puzzles me.

    >>
    >> There's Guinness and there's Guinness and there's Guinness.
    >> If you have had it in any way other than from the Irish keg on tap,
    >> in a place with high turnover, forget it. If you have had any of the
    >> bottled abortions under a Guinness label, forget it. The true
    >> Guinness is soft, very smooth, rich almost beyond compare,
    >> no rough edges at all, just lovely mother's milk. Go on a quest,
    >> seek it out. Whatever you have had is bad and wrong.
    >>
    >> pavane

    >
    >
    > The best thing Guinness did was to developed the nitrogen charge
    > which kicks in when the can is opened. The can is lined with plastic
    > so you don't get the can taste. It's pretty darn good.
    >
    > Paul


    Agreed. If you want black and tans and you aren't in a bar, the nitrogen
    cans are the only way to go. Never the bottled "draft", only the cans. And
    only Harp.

    MartyB



  6. #26
    Paul M. Cook Guest

    Default Re: tech support question, regarding-- beer gone bad


    "Somebody" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:k53f8i$b4h$[email protected]..
    > "Paul M. Cook" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:k52qik$9r7$[email protected]..
    >
    >> Beer and ale, even the commercial stuff. is not pasteurized as the
    >> pathogens that would be killed by pasteurization - ie salmonella,
    >> listeria, e. coli, cannot live in beer due the alcohol content and
    >> extreme acidity. Not only that but beer is boiled for a long time after
    >> the wort stage. It is quite thoroughly sanitized prior to fermentation.
    >>
    >> Nothing that can harm a human can live in beer.
    >>
    >> Paul

    >
    > now I am confused... Why did the keg my roommates had make us all sick?
    > (Guess it was not the beer but some other contamination? It was out in
    > the sun in Denver, mid 80s... But like you say, alcohol is supposed to be
    > inhospitable to little beasties-- even the ones that created it.)



    Probably the detergent used to clean it. It's been known to happen. *IF*
    the beer was bad it would taste so foul and smell so bad you could not
    swallow it.

    Paul



  7. #27
    Somebody Guest

    Default Re: tech support question, regarding-- beer gone bad

    "Paul M. Cook" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:k544qn$l8u$[email protected]..

    > Probably the detergent used to clean it. It's been known to happen. *IF*
    > the beer was bad it would taste so foul and smell so bad...


    isn't that true of all beer? (St. Pauli excepted-- because the girl on the
    bottle distracts me.)



  8. #28
    Doug Freyburger Guest

    Default Re: tech support question, regarding-- beer gone bad

    Paul M. Cook wrote:
    > "Somebody" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> "Paul M. Cook" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >>> Beer and ale, even the commercial stuff. is not pasteurized as the
    >>> pathogens that would be killed by pasteurization - ie salmonella,
    >>> listeria, e. coli, cannot live in beer due the alcohol content and
    >>> extreme acidity. Not only that but beer is boiled for a long time after
    >>> the wort stage. It is quite thoroughly sanitized prior to fermentation.

    >
    >>> Nothing that can harm a human can live in beer.


    As a home brewer I report this is incorrect. For the commercial stuff
    it can't be sold if anything harmful to humans is in it, with the caveat
    that different countries have different health criteria for specific
    chemicals that have been known to appear in beer. But for home brewed
    beer it can go bad from bacterial infection. I lost my first batch of
    root beer to that long ago and have managed to avoid it since.

    >> now I am confused... Why did the keg my roommates had make us all sick?
    >> (Guess it was not the beer but some other contamination? It was out in
    >> the sun in Denver, mid 80s... But like you say, alcohol is supposed to be
    >> inhospitable to little beasties-- even the ones that created it.)

    >
    > Probably the detergent used to clean it. It's been known to happen. *IF*
    > the beer was bad it would taste so foul and smell so bad you could not
    > swallow it.


    Contamination can happen near the tap. A couple of years ago I got food
    poisoning from a tap ale at a local restaurant. My wife and I ate the
    same meal except she had Diet Coke and I had an ale. Boom I was sick
    for a couple of days.

  9. #29
    Somebody Guest

    Default Re: tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer

    "Bryan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    Bull****. You can have your warm ale. Here, the cans of canoe beer...
    ---

    You referring to-- sex in a canoe on the lake? aka Miller Lite



  10. #30
    Somebody Guest

    Default Re: tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer

    "Bryan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..

    Are you close enough to STL to buy this?
    http://schlafly.com/beers/styles/dry-hopped-apa/
    They sell it in these little 3.3 gallon keglets for $36, but only at
    the downtown brewery.
    I haven't bought a keg of any other beer in many years.

    --Bryan

    ---

    200 miles away...



  11. #31
    Somebody Guest

    Default Re: tech support question, regarding-- tea, beer

    "notbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    >
    > You jes do NOT have a taste for it. I had to acquire a taste for
    > ales. In short, my palate was trained to enjoy those types of beers
    > over a period of about a year. Now I can't enjoy a US mega-swill.
    > Canoe beer, I call 'em.


    what is "canoe beer"?



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