Thread: The tastes of memory.

Necco Wafers. I loved this candy when I was a child. I was thrilled to
find them at DollarTree a few monthes ago. Yuck it was nasty.

On Feb 19, 10:19*am, ImStillMags <sitara8...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Someone posted in another thread about the foods we used to love as
> kids and young adults and when we try them now they just don't taste
> the same.
>
> I find it very true. * Prepared foods and pre packaged things could
> taste different than they did in the past because of manufacturing
> differences today. * *The biggest offenders are in the fast food
> nation....But there are foods that are prepared from scratch at home
> that don't taste the same either. * And sometimes it's very
> disappointing when you are full of anticipation and excitement for
> that first bite.......and it just doesn't measure up.
>
> I don't know if it is just maturity, if our taste buds DO change as we
> get older, or if the
> body itself doesn't want whatever made it taste to us so long ago.
>
> Have you had that experience?

Absolutely. My mother made the best chicken fried pork chops ever,
and no matter how I've tried I cannot make them as good as she did.
Hers were juicy-moist, as were the chunks of golden buttered squash
she usually served with them.

Another batter-fried love I grew up with was her fried chicken that
was just as good cold on the Monday after our Sunday afternoon
feast. Totally not worth the bother to me, my grocer makes fried
chicken every bit as good as mom's was, and I have no clean up to do.
....Picky

On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:19:35 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Have you had that experience?

Yes, many times... can't name one at this moment though.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

ImStillMags <[email protected]> wrote:

> Someone posted in another thread about the foods we used to love as
> kids and young adults and when we try them now they just don't taste
> the same.


ImStillMags,

In our youth, ground hamburger was delicious raw. We'd pinch at the supply
while we could, without getting hand-slapped by Mom.

Today it's flavorless and unsafe.

Best,

Andy

On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:19:35 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags wrote:

> Someone posted in another thread about the foods we used to love as
> kids and young adults and when we try them now they just don't taste
> the same.
>
> I find it very true. Prepared foods and pre packaged things could
> taste different than they did in the past because of manufacturing
> differences today. The biggest offenders are in the fast food
> nation....But there are foods that are prepared from scratch at home
> that don't taste the same either. And sometimes it's very
> disappointing when you are full of anticipation and excitement for
> that first bite.......and it just doesn't measure up.
>
> I don't know if it is just maturity, if our taste buds DO change as we
> get older, or if the
> body itself doesn't want whatever made it taste to us so long ago.
>
> Have you had that experience?

Jean B exactly this about 4-5 weeks ago. Stuff she's made for years
doesn't taste the same. I really no opinion since I eat, well,
everything. I have very few dishes I make more than once a year and
they're pretty simple standby's (pork and sauerkraut, sauced legs or
wings, egg rolls). And I don't follow recipes. Mt of the things I
make are for the very first time. Or vary in subtle or major ways
such as curries and chow fun. So it's hard for me to track.

-sw

On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:42:06 -0600, Andy wrote:

> In our youth, ground hamburger was delicious raw.

Did you let it turn green like you do your "aged" steaks?

You are no nasty it's uber nasty.

-sw

On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:42:06 -0600, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:

>ImStillMags <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Someone posted in another thread about the foods we used to love as
>> kids and young adults and when we try them now they just don't taste
>> the same.
>
>
>ImStillMags,
>
>In our youth, ground hamburger was delicious raw. We'd pinch at the supply
>while we could, without getting hand-slapped by Mom.
>
>Today it's flavorless and unsafe.

Not if you grind it yourself.

On Feb 19, 2:17*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:42:06 -0600, Andy <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >ImStillMags <sitara8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Someone posted in another thread about the foods we used to love as
> >> kids and young adults and when we try them now they just don't taste
> >> the same.
>
> >ImStillMags,
>
> >In our youth, ground hamburger was delicious raw. We'd pinch at the supply
> >while we could, without getting hand-slapped by Mom.
>
> >Today it's flavorless and unsafe.
>
> Not if you grind it yourself.

Or buy it from a reputable butcher counter like I do!

http://straubs.datixtest.com/meat/

Of course I'm not getting particular cuts ground as you can do at
home, just an 80% lean mix of Straub's prime beef, probably scraps
from all the prime cuts they offer in their display case, like $27/lb
prime cuts!

Can't remember which cut they charge $27/lb for, but I'll bet it's
fantastic!

John Kuthe...

Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:

> On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:42:06 -0600, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>ImStillMags <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Someone posted in another thread about the foods we used to love as
>>> kids and young adults and when we try them now they just don't taste
>>> the same.
>>
>>
>>ImStillMags,
>>
>>In our youth, ground hamburger was delicious raw. We'd pinch at the
>>supply while we could, without getting hand-slapped by Mom.
>>
>>Today it's flavorless and unsafe.
>
> Not if you grind it yourself.


Sheldon,

Perhaps.

You first!

Best,

Andy
--
Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a
fruit salad.

On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:26:19 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Feb 19, 2:17*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:42:06 -0600, Andy <a...@b.c> wrote:
>> >ImStillMags <sitara8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> Someone posted in another thread about the foods we used to love as
>> >> kids and young adults and when we try them now they just don't taste
>> >> the same.
>>
>> >ImStillMags,
>>
>> >In our youth, ground hamburger was delicious raw. We'd pinch at the supply
>> >while we could, without getting hand-slapped by Mom.
>>
>> >Today it's flavorless and unsafe.
>>
>> Not if you grind it yourself.
>
>Or buy it from a reputable butcher counter like I do!
>
>http://straubs.datixtest.com/meat/
>
>Of course I'm not getting particular cuts ground as you can do at
>home, just an 80% lean mix of Straub's prime beef, probably scraps
>from all the prime cuts they offer in their display case, like $27/lb
>prime cuts!
>
>Can't remember which cut they charge $27/lb for, but I'll bet it's
>fantastic!

Reputable butcher... that's like a reputable politician.
There's no such thing a reputable butcher and you just proved
it[scraps].

There is only one way and one way only to ensure that it's not mystery
meat, grind it yourself. No ground meat from any butcher shop is
worth $27/lb, their best is barely worth 27¢/lb... fish chum.

On Feb 19, 2:39*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:26:19 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>
>
>
> <johnkuth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 19, 2:17*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:42:06 -0600, Andy <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >> >ImStillMags <sitara8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> Someone posted in another thread about the foods we used to love as
> >> >> kids and young adults and when we try them now they just don't taste
> >> >> the same.
>
> >> >ImStillMags,
>
> >> >In our youth, ground hamburger was delicious raw. We'd pinch at the supply
> >> >while we could, without getting hand-slapped by Mom.
>
> >> >Today it's flavorless and unsafe.
>
> >> Not if you grind it yourself.
>
> >Or buy it from a reputable butcher counter like I do!
>
> >http://straubs.datixtest.com/meat/
>
> >Of course I'm not getting particular cuts ground as you can do at
> >home, just an 80% lean mix of Straub's prime beef, probably scraps
> >from all the prime cuts they offer in their display case, like $27/lb
> >prime cuts!
>
> >Can't remember which cut they charge $27/lb for, but I'll bet it's
> >fantastic!
>
> Reputable butcher... that's like a reputable politician.
> There's no such thing a reputable butcher and you just proved
> it[scraps].
>
> There is only one way and one way only to ensure that it's not mystery
> meat, grind it yourself. *No ground meat from any butcher shop is
> worth $27/lb, their best is barely worth 27¢/lb... fish chum.

Blah blah blah Sheldon! Straub's has been a STL reputable business
since 1901.

Do you raise your own cattle? If not, you are not nearly as cool as
you seem to think!!

John Kuthe...

Mom's meatloaf. I never liked it hot but sliced cold for sandwiches it
was the best. What has changed over time of course is beef and all of
the low-fat nonsense. Call me crazy but I think tomatoes have changed
also.

On Feb 19, 10:19*am, ImStillMags <sitara8...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Someone posted in another thread about the foods we used to love as
> kids and young adults and when we try them now they just don't taste
> the same.
>
> I find it very true. * Prepared foods and pre packaged things could
> taste different than they did in the past because of manufacturing
> differences today. * *The biggest offenders are in the fast food
> nation....But there are foods that are prepared from scratch at home
> that don't taste the same either. * And sometimes it's very
> disappointing when you are full of anticipation and excitement for
> that first bite.......and it just doesn't measure up.
>
> I don't know if it is just maturity, if our taste buds DO change as we
> get older, or if the
> body itself doesn't want whatever made it taste to us so long ago.
>
> Have you had that experience?

I think our taste buds age as we do- I like things that I never would
have ate as a kid.

On 19/02/2012 4:38 PM, z z wrote:
> Mom's meatloaf. I never liked it hot but sliced cold for sandwiches it
> was the best. What has changed over time of course is beef and all of
> the low-fat nonsense. Call me crazy but I think tomatoes have changed
> also.
>

My mother's meatloaf wasn't great, but it was good enough that they were
never leftovers. I make meatloaf once or twice a month, but it is
inspired more by the memory of meatloaf I had in restaurants than my
mother's. I make it in large loaves these days because I discovered
that it tastes better re-heated than the first time around.

On Feb 19, 4:01*pm, Dave Smith <adavid.sm...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> On 19/02/2012 4:38 PM, z z wrote:
>
> > Mom's meatloaf. I never liked it hot but sliced cold for sandwiches it
> > was the best. What has changed over time of course is beef and all of
> > the low-fat nonsense. Call me crazy but I think tomatoes have changed
> > also.
>
> My mother's meatloaf wasn't great, but it was good enough that they were
> never leftovers. *I make meatloaf once or twice a month, but it is
> inspired more by the memory of meatloaf I had in restaurants than my
> mother's. *I make it in large loaves these days because I discovered
> that it tastes better re-heated than the first time around.

Maybe because reheated you haven't been smelling it baking for a
hour!!!

John Kuthe...

On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:48:11 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Feb 19, 2:39*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:26:19 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>>
>>
>>
>> <johnkuth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Feb 19, 2:17*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:42:06 -0600, Andy <a...@b.c> wrote:
>> >> >ImStillMags <sitara8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> Someone posted in another thread about the foods we used to love as
>> >> >> kids and young adults and when we try them now they just don't taste
>> >> >> the same.
>>
>> >> >ImStillMags,
>>
>> >> >In our youth, ground hamburger was delicious raw. We'd pinch at the supply
>> >> >while we could, without getting hand-slapped by Mom.
>>
>> >> >Today it's flavorless and unsafe.
>>
>> >> Not if you grind it yourself.
>>
>> >Or buy it from a reputable butcher counter like I do!
>>
>> >http://straubs.datixtest.com/meat/
>>
>> >Of course I'm not getting particular cuts ground as you can do at
>> >home, just an 80% lean mix of Straub's prime beef, probably scraps
>> >from all the prime cuts they offer in their display case, like $27/lb
>> >prime cuts!
>>
>> >Can't remember which cut they charge $27/lb for, but I'll bet it's
>> >fantastic!
>>
>> Reputable butcher... that's like a reputable politician.
>> There's no such thing a reputable butcher and you just proved
>> it[scraps].
>>
>> There is only one way and one way only to ensure that it's not mystery
>> meat, grind it yourself. *No ground meat from any butcher shop is
>> worth $27/lb, their best is barely worth 27¢/lb... fish chum.
>
>Blah blah blah Sheldon! Straub's has been a STL reputable business
>since 1901.

All the more reason not to trust them, they've been learning how to
cheat for a very long time, they know all the tricks.

>Do you raise your own cattle? If not, you are not nearly as cool as
>you seem to think!!

Your butcher doesn't raise his beef either.

Actually if I choose to I can buy beef that's raised on my own land,
the farmer who hays my land is a cattle farmer who grazes his cattle
on a section of my land and he sells his beef locally. I simply
choose not to mix business with pleasure... I've already been
propositioned to take my rent in beef... the tax collecter doesn't
take beef... he'd like to buy my 91 acres too as it abuts his farm,
and my land is much nicer than his. Lots of my neighbors raise beef
cattle. They all sell packages that contain various cuts including
some ground, I don't want that. Here's my farmer's ad from his
website:
Grass Fed Beef Samplers
$7.95/lb flat rate for everything from
burger to filet mignon.
(Samplers ranging from $70 - $100)
- 100% grass fed
- Rotationally grazed on pasture during the summer.
- Fed our organic home-grown hay crop during the winter months.
- Hormone and antibiotic free.
- Processed by a local USDA-Certified Butcher.

On Feb 19, 4:35*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:48:11 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>
>
>
> <johnkuth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 19, 2:39*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:26:19 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>
> >> <johnkuth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Feb 19, 2:17*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:42:06 -0600, Andy <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >> >> >ImStillMags <sitara8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> Someone posted in another thread about the foods we used to loveas
> >> >> >> kids and young adults and when we try them now they just don't taste
> >> >> >> the same.
>
> >> >> >ImStillMags,
>
> >> >> >In our youth, ground hamburger was delicious raw. We'd pinch at the supply
> >> >> >while we could, without getting hand-slapped by Mom.
>
> >> >> >Today it's flavorless and unsafe.
>
> >> >> Not if you grind it yourself.
>
> >> >Or buy it from a reputable butcher counter like I do!
>
> >> >http://straubs.datixtest.com/meat/
>
> >> >Of course I'm not getting particular cuts ground as you can do at
> >> >home, just an 80% lean mix of Straub's prime beef, probably scraps
> >> >from all the prime cuts they offer in their display case, like $27/lb
> >> >prime cuts!
>
> >> >Can't remember which cut they charge $27/lb for, but I'll bet it's
> >> >fantastic!
>
> >> Reputable butcher... that's like a reputable politician.
> >> There's no such thing a reputable butcher and you just proved
> >> it[scraps].
>
> >> There is only one way and one way only to ensure that it's not mystery
> >> meat, grind it yourself. *No ground meat from any butcher shop is
> >> worth $27/lb, their best is barely worth 27¢/lb... fish chum.
>
> >Blah blah blah Sheldon! Straub's has been a STL reputable business
> >since 1901.
>
> All the more reason not to trust them, they've been learning how to
> cheat for a very long time, they know all the tricks.
>
> >Do you raise your own cattle? If not, you are not nearly as cool as
> >you seem to think!!
>
> Your butcher doesn't raise his beef either.
....

No they do not. But Straub's has one of the best reputations in STL
for high quality foods, especially meats. Ask anyone who knows, like
Bryan for example.

There is always something better, and sometimes cheaper. But good
quality beef and other foods is a beautiful thing to have easy access
to. And I do!

John Kuthe...

On 2/19/2012 1:19 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
> Someone posted in another thread about the foods we used to love as
> kids and young adults and when we try them now they just don't taste
> the same.
>
> I find it very true. Prepared foods and pre packaged things could
> taste different than they did in the past because of manufacturing
> differences today. The biggest offenders are in the fast food
> nation....But there are foods that are prepared from scratch at home
> that don't taste the same either. And sometimes it's very
> disappointing when you are full of anticipation and excitement for
> that first bite.......and it just doesn't measure up.
>
> I don't know if it is just maturity, if our taste buds DO change as we
> get older, or if the
> body itself doesn't want whatever made it taste to us so long ago.
>
> Have you had that experience?
>
Sort of.

My Granny made absolutely delicious Scotch Broth - I tried and tried,
(using her recipe) but somehow, mine never tasted the same - I assumed
that my memory of it was better-tasting than it really was.

But when I went back to Scotland and made her broth, my kitchen suddenly
smelled like my childhood! I was using locally-raised lamb, leeks,
carrots, celery, and barley - the aroma was quite noticeably different
from my US-made broth.

"ImStillMags" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Someone posted in another thread about the foods we used to love as
> kids and young adults and when we try them now they just don't taste
> the same.
>
(snip)

> I don't know if it is just maturity, if our taste buds DO change as we
> get older, or if the
> body itself doesn't want whatever made it taste to us so long ago.
>
> Have you had that experience?
>
Sure. There are some things I like as I get older but never liked when I
was younger. There are other things I loved, now not so much. I know our
tastebuds change as we age.

Jill