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  1. #1
    Polly Esther Guest

    Default Take away the fat kids?

    What do you think about this? Yesterday ABC news was talking about a
    Harvard professor who suggests the gov't should take kids away from their
    parents if the chunky little darlings are over weight. Sounds like a plan
    to me but what is the state going to do with them when they take them?
    Here's a bit of the report
    http://www.imperfectparent.com/topic...bese-children/
    Polly


  2. #2
    Dave Smith Guest

    Default Re: Take away the fat kids?

    On 14/07/2011 2:58 PM, Polly Esther wrote:
    > What do you think about this? Yesterday ABC news was talking about a
    > Harvard professor who suggests the gov't should take kids away from
    > their parents if the chunky little darlings are over weight. Sounds like
    > a plan to me but what is the state going to do with them when they take
    > them?



    I agree that the parents are doing their children a big disservice when
    they allow them to become fat. I know of a few cases where kids who were
    quite chunky ended up slimming down in childhood. Then there is the Big
    Niece was a big kid with a big appetite who changed from stocky to plump
    to obese in her late teens, and who just keeps getting bigger.

    I don`t see taking the kids away from their parents benefiting anyone,
    and especially not the kids. Maybe the schools should get back to
    mandatory phys ed classes and failing those who can`t pass. And not just
    fail phys ed,... fail the year. Use some leverage to make them more
    active and eat less. We have enough `normal`people who put on too much
    weight as adults. For the life of me, I don`t understand how people can
    allow themselves to become 100 pounds or more overweight. When you are
    getting to the point where who are as big around as you are high, you
    really should be doing something about it.


  3. #3
    Miche Guest

    Default Re: Take away the fat kids?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Polly Esther" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > What do you think about this? Yesterday ABC news was talking about a
    > Harvard professor who suggests the gov't should take kids away from their
    > parents if the chunky little darlings are over weight. Sounds like a plan
    > to me but what is the state going to do with them when they take them?


    Sounds fine to me as long as they take away the super-skinny ones too.

    Miche

    --
    Electricians do it in three phases

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    Nunya Bidnits Guest

    Default Re: Take away the fat kids?

    Polly Esther wrote:
    > What do you think about this? Yesterday ABC news was talking about a
    > Harvard professor who suggests the gov't should take kids away from
    > their parents if the chunky little darlings are over weight. Sounds
    > like a plan to me but what is the state going to do with them when
    > they take them? Here's a bit of the report
    > http://www.imperfectparent.com/topic...bese-children/
    > Polly


    I think they should have a form of John TV for such parents and punish them
    with public humiliation. Taking the kids away is going to hurt the children
    more than the parents who let them get that way. Imagine carrying around for
    life the knowledge that you were essentially orphanned by the state because
    you're fat. An official fatass ward of the state. Yeah, right, that's going
    to help correct their self image and get them slimmed down. It's just
    stupid.

    MartyB



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    [email protected] Guest

    Default Re: Take away the fat kids?

    On Jul 14, 2:58*pm, "Polly Esther" <Polly...@cableone.net> wrote:
    > What do you think about this? *Yesterday ABC news was talking about a
    > Harvard professor who suggests the gov't should take kids away from their
    > parents if the chunky little darlings are over weight. *Sounds like a plan
    > to me but what is the state going to do with them when they take them?
    > Here's a bit of the reporthttp://www.imperfectparent.com/topics/2011/07/14/harvard-prof-says-pa...
    > Polly


    First off, who's to say that some of the larger children don't have a
    specific problem that makes them that way. It isn't ALWAYS the parents
    fault. Even if it is the parents' fault, how can the government just
    take so many children away? Because the obesity problem is through the
    roof lately, hundreds, maybe even thousands of children would be taken
    away from their homes throughout the country and then what? Put into
    foster homes? That would then in turn put the country into more of a
    deficit due to paying foster parents and orphanages.

  6. #6
    sf Guest

    Default Re: Take away the fat kids?

    On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 15:13:16 -0400, Dave Smith
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > I don`t see taking the kids away from their parents benefiting anyone,
    > and especially not the kids.


    Maybe it should be treated for what it is, child abuse. Parents would
    need mandatory classes and physical exercise should be part of the
    sentence. I don't see anything like that happening at any point
    because people who abuse illegal drugs have a hard time finding
    treatment. They're only abusing food.

    --

    Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

  7. #7
    Pete C. Guest

    Default Re: Take away the fat kids?


    Polly Esther wrote:
    >
    > What do you think about this? Yesterday ABC news was talking about a
    > Harvard professor who suggests the gov't should take kids away from their
    > parents if the chunky little darlings are over weight. Sounds like a plan
    > to me but what is the state going to do with them when they take them?
    > Here's a bit of the report
    > http://www.imperfectparent.com/topic...bese-children/
    > Polly


    Take away is probably a bit much, but some court ordered nutrition and
    cooking classes might not be a bad idea.

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    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: Take away the fat kids?

    Polly Esther wrote:
    > What do you think about this? Yesterday ABC news was talking about a
    > Harvard professor who suggests the gov't should take kids away from
    > their parents if the chunky little darlings are over weight. Sounds
    > like a plan to me but what is the state going to do with them when
    > they take them? Here's a bit of the report
    > http://www.imperfectparent.com/topic...bese-children/
    > Polly


    Just why do you think this is a plan? Some kids have medical problems that
    make them overweight. I used to feel sorry for my friend's younger brother.
    He was very active in sports and his mom had him on a very strict diet
    because he was overweight. He had a thyroid problem. He ate so little and
    weighed so much. My friend was also a tad overweight but only through her
    hips and butt. Her mom put her on a really strict diet too. Boiled eggs
    for breakfast. Some kind of yucky looking bar for lunch. Broiled chicken
    or fish and veg for dinner. Didn't cause her to lose weight.



  9. #9
    Brooklyn1 Guest

    Default Re: Take away the fat kids?

    On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 07:33:55 +1200, Miche <[email protected]> wrote:

    >In article <[email protected]>,
    > "Polly Esther" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> What do you think about this? Yesterday ABC news was talking about a
    >> Harvard professor who suggests the gov't should take kids away from their
    >> parents if the chunky little darlings are over weight. Sounds like a plan
    >> to me but what is the state going to do with them when they take them?

    >
    >Sounds fine to me as long as they take away the super-skinny ones too.


    And the low IQ ones.

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    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: Take away the fat kids?

    Miche wrote:
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > "Polly Esther" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> What do you think about this? Yesterday ABC news was talking about a
    >> Harvard professor who suggests the gov't should take kids away from
    >> their parents if the chunky little darlings are over weight. Sounds
    >> like a plan to me but what is the state going to do with them when
    >> they take them?

    >
    > Sounds fine to me as long as they take away the super-skinny ones too.


    I was one of the super skinny ones and it wasn't my parent's fault. I ate.
    And ate and ate. But I couldn't gain an ounce. Yes I was active. I can
    remember my friend and I stuffing ourselves with food until we felt sick and
    then sitting in the kitchen chairs just staring at each other in the hopes
    of not burning any calories and putting on weight. She was skinny too but
    she was short. AFAIK people didn't make fun of her. I was very tall so it
    earned me the nickname of Lt. Twig. Twiggy was popular in those days and so
    was the original Star Trek. At came we did a Star Trek skit and that was
    the name I was given. It stuck.

    And now I am fat. And I don't overeat. For many years this was difficult
    for me because I was used to eating so much for so long. I had to learn to
    cut back and ignore hunger. Now this is easy to do with he gastroparesis.
    For the most part I do not feel hungry any more and sometimes I have to
    force myself to eat. Yes, once in a while I will feel hungry. But more
    often it will be what I call "eye hunger". I see something. A picture of
    food. An ad on TV. A recipe. And that looks appealing. So I will want
    it. But I am not taking in excess calories. I know this because I
    downloaded the Cron-O-Meter and for several weeks I ran all of everything I
    consumed through it to see where I stood nutritionally. Apparently I am
    severely lacking in vitamin E. But taking in mostly 1,000 calories per day.
    Once in a while as much as 1,200 calories a day. Hardly excess.

    As for kids, I have seen all manner of things. Extremely picky kids who are
    malnourished because they will eat little more than pasta, white rice and
    white bread. The one example I am thinking of is in counseling to overcome
    her food aversions. For some reason she believes if she eats other foods
    they will make her sick. I could understand this if she had an allergic
    reaction to a food or for some other reason fell ill after eating some food.
    But this isn't the case.

    Another girl is the youngest of a large family. Her mother has admitted
    that she doesn't feed her dinner till 10:00 at night and she doesn't know
    what she eats for the rest of the day. And I haven't seen her eat much
    aside from candy and fruit. She is allowed to pack her own meals. My
    daughter is also allowed to pack her own meals but they have to be
    nutritionally sound. There has to be a protein, a starch a vegetable and
    usually also a fruit.

    Another girl's mother complains that she is having low blood sugar and yet I
    have yet to see her eat a whole meal. The mom does not allow it. She will
    feed her a couple of bites of a protein bar, a few grapes or a cracker. The
    girl will complain that she is hungry but the mother won't let her have a
    meal. This girl is by no means overweight but is also not skinny scrawny.
    She will take her at times to McDonalds for something called a "Chicken
    Snacker". Now I don't know for sure what this is because I don't darken
    their door but it sounds to me like a snack and not a meal.

    I buy things from time to time for my husband that he does not eat and we
    can not eat. Like energy bars, cupcakes and cookies. Sometimes he eats
    these things. Sometimes not. I never know. If he doesn't eat them I will
    take them to the dance studio before they go bad. I have seen some of the
    skinniest kids, eating these in secret and wolfing down quantities that
    would make my stomach hurt! One such girl is on a strict diet and the mom
    said she is not allowed sugar. However she has given the girl sugar in lieu
    of meals on occasion. And she says the girl won't eat her meals.

    So I have seen all manner of things. I do not think you can tell what type
    of foods the child has been eating based on their size alone. Once in a
    while I will see some sort of skin rash that makes me think the child might
    have a food allergy that is either being ignored or is not known. And in
    the case of the girl with the food aversions, I suspect celiac based on
    several things the mother has told me. Such as crumbling teeth and lack of
    growth. This girl looks to be many years younger than she is.

    There is also something called Prader Willi. It is a medical condition that
    causes the sufferer to want to eat huge amounts of food. They never feel
    full. But there is a lot more to it than the eating. The people who suffer
    from this have something wrong with their brains. They do not develop
    normally physically and can have learning disabilities. They tend to be
    overweight even when placed on a strict diet of 800 calories per day and
    according to the show I watched on this that is all the calories their
    bodies need.

    Then there is Down Syndrome. People who suffer from this also tend to be
    overweight.

    And I am sure there are a lot of other syndomes or maladies that I don't
    even know of. Should we take all children away that are not of a certain
    weight? I think not.

    I don't know the answer. I do see parents who IMO are not feeding their
    children properly. In some cases perhaps they don't know what is right. Or
    maybe they do deep down inside but are doing otherwise. At least in this
    area, nutrition is covered in school. In many grades. My daughter knows
    what she is supposed to eat.



  11. #11
    Brooklyn1 Guest

    Default Re: Take away the fat kids?

    On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 12:51:02 -0700 (PDT), [email protected] wrote:

    >On Jul 14, 2:58*pm, "Polly Esther" <Polly...@cableone.net> wrote:
    >> What do you think about this? *Yesterday ABC news was talking about a
    >> Harvard professor who suggests the gov't should take kids away from their
    >> parents if the chunky little darlings are over weight. *Sounds like a plan
    >> to me but what is the state going to do with them when they take them?
    >> Here's a bit of the reporthttp://www.imperfectparent.com/topics/2011/07/14/harvard-prof-says-pa...
    >> Polly

    >
    >First off, who's to say that some of the larger children don't have a
    >specific problem that makes them that way. It isn't ALWAYS the parents
    >fault. Even if it is the parents' fault, how can the government just
    >take so many children away? Because the obesity problem is through the
    >roof lately, hundreds, maybe even thousands of children would be taken
    >away from their homes throughout the country and then what? Put into
    >foster homes? That would then in turn put the country into more of a
    >deficit due to paying foster parents and orphanages.


    Of course not... don't be stupid... just drown the fat bastards!
    LOL-LOL

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    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: Take away the fat kids?

    [email protected] wrote:
    > On Jul 14, 2:58 pm, "Polly Esther" <Polly...@cableone.net> wrote:
    >> What do you think about this? Yesterday ABC news was talking about a
    >> Harvard professor who suggests the gov't should take kids away from
    >> their
    >> parents if the chunky little darlings are over weight. Sounds like a
    >> plan
    >> to me but what is the state going to do with them when they take
    >> them?
    >> Here's a bit of the
    >> reporthttp://www.imperfectparent.com/topics/2011/07/14/harvard-prof-says-pa...
    >> Polly

    >
    > First off, who's to say that some of the larger children don't have a
    > specific problem that makes them that way. It isn't ALWAYS the parents
    > fault. Even if it is the parents' fault, how can the government just
    > take so many children away? Because the obesity problem is through the
    > roof lately, hundreds, maybe even thousands of children would be taken
    > away from their homes throughout the country and then what? Put into
    > foster homes? That would then in turn put the country into more of a
    > deficit due to paying foster parents and orphanages.


    From statistics I have read, it isn't just the kids who are overweight. It
    is a rampant problem in every state of the United States and in other
    countries as well. Yes, people say it is from HFCS or hormones in milk but
    I'm not buying that. Maybe that is the case to some extent. But I don't
    consume those things. So for me it is not the answer.



  13. #13
    Serene Vannoy Guest

    Default Re: Take away the fat kids?

    On 07/14/2011 11:58 AM, Polly Esther wrote:
    > What do you think about this? Yesterday ABC news was talking about a
    > Harvard professor who suggests the gov't should take kids away from
    > their parents if the chunky little darlings are over weight. Sounds like
    > a plan to me but what is the state going to do with them when they take
    > them?


    When it's happened in the past (and it has), the children have been
    quietly returned to their parents, because they didn't lose weight in
    foster care. Oh, gosh, traumatizing kids doesn't make them thin? Huge
    surprise.

    Serene

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    http://www.momfoodproject.com

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    Dave Smith Guest

    Default Re: Take away the fat kids?

    On 14/07/2011 6:56 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

    >
    > Just why do you think this is a plan? Some kids have medical problems that
    > make them overweight. I used to feel sorry for my friend's younger brother.
    > He was very active in sports and his mom had him on a very strict diet
    > because he was overweight. He had a thyroid problem.



    For every overweight kid with a thyroid problem there are dozens who
    just eat too damned much and/or eat the wrong kind of food. Their
    parents give them them soft drinks, chips, juice and cookies. Then they
    sit around and watch television and play video games. That's why they
    are fat.


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    Stu Guest

    Default Re: Take away the fat kids?

    On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:58:11 -0500, "Polly Esther" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >What do you think about this? Yesterday ABC news was talking about a
    >Harvard professor who suggests the gov't should take kids away from their
    >parents if the chunky little darlings are over weight. Sounds like a plan
    >to me but what is the state going to do with them when they take them?
    >Here's a bit of the report
    >http://www.imperfectparent.com/topic...bese-children/
    >Polly


    Yes I saw the same piece, seems he wants child protective services to put them
    in foster care. Now that would definitely bankrupt your country.

    btw .. a nutritionist said the Harvard professor is nuts and they need to
    learn proper eating habits.

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    Polly Esther Guest

    Default Re: Take away the fat kids?


    "Stu" <> wrote
    > On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:58:11 -0500, "Polly Esther" <> wrote:
    >
    >>What do you think about this? Yesterday ABC news was talking about a
    >>Harvard professor who suggests the gov't should take kids away from their
    >>parents if the chunky little darlings are over weight. Sounds like a plan
    >>to me but what is the state going to do with them when they take them?
    >>Here's a bit of the report
    >>http://www.imperfectparent.com/topic...bese-children/
    >>Polly

    >
    > Yes I saw the same piece, seems he wants child protective services to put
    > them
    > in foster care. Now that would definitely bankrupt your country.
    >
    > btw .. a nutritionist said the Harvard professor is nuts and they need to
    > learn proper eating habits.


    We had a neighbor who thought feeding children Lots was superior parenting.
    She put sweetened condensed milk in their baby bottles. As they got older
    (and rounder) if she fried chicken for supper, she'd fry one for him, one
    for her and one for each of their offspring. We've been gone from that
    neighborhood a long time; don't know if any of them lived through it or not
    .... but I'd guess: not. Polly


  17. #17
    Polly Esther Guest

    Default Re: Take away the fat kids?

    "Mark Thorson" <> A much better idea is to have posters in classrooms
    > that heap ridicule and scorn on fat kids. Fat people
    > get heart attacks! Fat people look fat! Fat people
    > eat while people starve! Fat people contribute to
    > global warming!
    >
    > That would work. Or, at least it's worth trying.
    > It would be a lot cheaper.
    >
    > It's coming. I can feel it. Fat will be the new
    > smoking.


    Mark, you're a sight. You know that? It is a serious problem. Dr.
    Rosenthal on 'House calls' said recently that overweight children have a
    much greater incidence of cancer as adults. If diabetes isn't tough
    enough - there's one more.
    Maybe we could just send them to camp. I well remember my camp
    summers. Up before dawn, always something exhausting going on and everybody
    was so hungry at mealtime there were no picky eaters. ( I was a picky eater
    but was so glad to get something to eat I'd have tried Armadillo.) Polly


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    Miche Guest

    Default Re: Take away the fat kids?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Serene Vannoy <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On 07/14/2011 12:33 PM, Miche wrote:
    > > In article<[email protected]>,
    > > "Polly Esther"<[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >> What do you think about this? Yesterday ABC news was talking about a
    > >> Harvard professor who suggests the gov't should take kids away from their
    > >> parents if the chunky little darlings are over weight. Sounds like a plan
    > >> to me but what is the state going to do with them when they take them?

    > >
    > > Sounds fine to me as long as they take away the super-skinny ones too.

    >
    > I hope you're just being caustic here and not serious, Miche.


    Of course I'm just being caustic. I would NEVER suggest a child be
    taken away from their parents on the basis of one number.

    Miche

    --
    Electricians do it in three phases

  19. #19
    Miche Guest

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    In article <ivntlh$hve$[email protected]>,
    "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Miche wrote:
    > > In article <[email protected]>,
    > > "Polly Esther" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >> What do you think about this? Yesterday ABC news was talking about a
    > >> Harvard professor who suggests the gov't should take kids away from
    > >> their parents if the chunky little darlings are over weight. Sounds
    > >> like a plan to me but what is the state going to do with them when
    > >> they take them?

    > >
    > > Sounds fine to me as long as they take away the super-skinny ones too.

    >
    > I was one of the super skinny ones and it wasn't my parent's fault.


    Exactly my point.

    Miche

    --
    Electricians do it in three phases

  20. #20
    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: Take away the fat kids?


    "Dave Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:6cMTp.154931$[email protected] .com...
    > On 14/07/2011 6:56 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> Just why do you think this is a plan? Some kids have medical problems
    >> that
    >> make them overweight. I used to feel sorry for my friend's younger
    >> brother.
    >> He was very active in sports and his mom had him on a very strict diet
    >> because he was overweight. He had a thyroid problem.

    >
    >
    > For every overweight kid with a thyroid problem there are dozens who just
    > eat too damned much and/or eat the wrong kind of food. Their parents give
    > them them soft drinks, chips, juice and cookies. Then they sit around and
    > watch television and play video games. That's why they are fat.


    That could be. In this area there just aren't a lot of fat kids and the
    ones I do know of don't seem to eat junk.

    I'm just saying that you can't tell by looking at someone what all they eat.
    Unless of course it is smeared all over their face and shirt or they are
    holding a fast food bag.



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