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    James Silverton Guest

    Default A survey?

    Hello All!

    I saw a recipe in r.f.recipes that called for oleo or butter. Am I
    correct in saying that oleo means margerine? Perhaps ChattyCathy might
    think it worthy of a survey.

    --


    James Silverton
    Potomac, Maryland

    Email, with obvious alterations:
    not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not


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    Dave Smith Guest

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    James Silverton wrote:
    > Hello All!
    >
    > I saw a recipe in r.f.recipes that called for oleo or butter. Am I
    > correct in saying that oleo means margerine? Perhaps ChattyCathy might
    > think it worthy of a survey.


    Apparently, oleo is margarine, but as far as I know is a term used only
    in the US. I have only heard one person actually use the word, and he
    owned a bar in Buffalo and said that he used Franks hot sauce and oleo
    for the Buffalo wings served in his bar.


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    Dimitri Guest

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    "Dave Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:4ac24a26$0$1625$[email protected] ...
    > James Silverton wrote:
    >> Hello All!
    >>
    >> I saw a recipe in r.f.recipes that called for oleo or butter. Am I
    >> correct in saying that oleo means margerine? Perhaps ChattyCathy might
    >> think it worthy of a survey.

    >
    > Apparently, oleo is margarine, but as far as I know is a term used only in
    > the US. I have only heard one person actually use the word, and he owned a
    > bar in Buffalo and said that he used Franks hot sauce and oleo for the
    > Buffalo wings served in his bar.
    >

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margarine
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    Dimitri
    Coming soon:
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    Kswck Guest

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    "James Silverton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:h9tdsh$9en$[email protected]..
    > Hello All!
    >
    > I saw a recipe in r.f.recipes that called for oleo or butter. Am I correct
    > in saying that oleo means margerine? Perhaps ChattyCathy might think it
    > worthy of a survey.
    >
    > --
    >
    >
    > James Silverton
    > Potomac, Maryland
    >
    > Email, with obvious alterations:
    > not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not


    Wasn't margarine first marketed as Oleomargarine?



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    George Shirley Guest

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    Dave Smith wrote:
    > James Silverton wrote:
    >> Hello All!
    >>
    >> I saw a recipe in r.f.recipes that called for oleo or butter. Am I
    >> correct in saying that oleo means margerine? Perhaps ChattyCathy might
    >> think it worthy of a survey.

    >
    > Apparently, oleo is margarine, but as far as I know is a term used only
    > in the US. I have only heard one person actually use the word, and he
    > owned a bar in Buffalo and said that he used Franks hot sauce and oleo
    > for the Buffalo wings served in his bar.
    >

    Prior to the fifties oleo used to be the common word for oleomargarine
    in the US. I remember being allowed to combine the dry yellow dye into
    the white oleo bars Mom would buy at the store. Real butter was going to
    the service people overseas and to the war effort as a "real" fat.

    We did get the odd bit of butter when we visited my uncle's place in the
    country.

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    Tom Biasi Guest

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    "James Silverton" <not.jim.silver[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:h9tdsh$9en$[email protected]..
    > Hello All!
    >
    > I saw a recipe in r.f.recipes that called for oleo or butter. Am I correct
    > in saying that oleo means margerine? Perhaps ChattyCathy might think it
    > worthy of a survey.
    >
    > --
    >
    >
    > James Silverton
    > Potomac, Maryland
    >
    > Email, with obvious alterations:
    > not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

    Why would you survey to find a fact?



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    l, not -l Guest

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    On 29-Sep-2009, "Tom Biasi" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > > Email, with obvious alterations:
    > > not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

    > Why would you survey to find a fact?


    Because on RFC facts seldom triumph over opinion. ;-)
    --
    Change Cujo to Juno in email address.

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    Tom Biasi Guest

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    "l, not -l" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:h9ttbp$mkk$[email protected]..
    >
    > On 29-Sep-2009, "Tom Biasi" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> > Email, with obvious alterations:
    >> > not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

    >> Why would you survey to find a fact?

    >
    > Because on RFC facts seldom triumph over opinion. ;-)
    > --

    Can we do a survey on whether or not cane sugar classifies as a
    carbohydrate?




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    Theron Guest

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    "James Silverton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:h9tdsh$9en$[email protected]..
    > Hello All!
    >
    > I saw a recipe in r.f.recipes that called for oleo or butter. Am I correct
    > in saying that oleo means margerine? Perhaps ChattyCathy might think it
    > worthy of a survey.
    >
    > --
    >
    >
    > James Silverton
    >
    >

    If you're old enough, in the pre-geezer phase, you know exactly what oleo
    is.

    Ed




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    Omelet Guest

    Default Re: A survey?

    In article <4ac2acaa$0$4994$[email protected]>,
    "Tom Biasi" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > "l, not -l" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:h9ttbp$mkk$[email protected]..
    > >
    > > On 29-Sep-2009, "Tom Biasi" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >> > Email, with obvious alterations:
    > >> > not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
    > >> Why would you survey to find a fact?

    > >
    > > Because on RFC facts seldom triumph over opinion. ;-)
    > > --

    > Can we do a survey on whether or not cane sugar classifies as a
    > carbohydrate?


    Or honey? <g>
    I know someone who does not classify oil as a fat... <sigh>
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    maxine Guest

    Default Re: A survey?

    On Sep 29, 9:35*pm, Omelet <ompome...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > In article <4ac2acaa$0$4994$607ed...@cv.net>,
    > *"Tom Biasi" <tombi...@optonline.net> wrote:
    >
    > > "l, not -l" <lal...@cujo.com> wrote in message
    > >news:h9ttbp$mkk$[email protected]..

    >
    > > > On 29-Sep-2009, "Tom Biasi" <tombi...@optonline.net> wrote:

    >
    > > >> > Email, with obvious alterations:
    > > >> > not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
    > > >> Why would you survey to find a fact?

    >
    > > > Because on RFC facts seldom triumph over opinion. * ;-)
    > > > --

    > > Can we do a survey on whether or not cane sugar classifies as a
    > > carbohydrate?

    >
    > Or honey? <g>
    > I know someone who does not classify oil as a fat... <sigh>


    And I had an argument with one of my coworkers once when I said humans
    were mammals. He said we were _not_ animals. Only animals were
    mammals. He's always right, so there was no point in trying to show
    him the error of his ways.

    maxine in ri

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    Janet Wilder Guest

    Default Re: A survey?

    James Silverton wrote:
    > Hello All!
    >
    > I saw a recipe in r.f.recipes that called for oleo or butter. Am I
    > correct in saying that oleo means margerine? Perhaps ChattyCathy might
    > think it worthy of a survey.
    >


    IIRC, its full name is oleomargarine.

    --
    Janet Wilder
    Way-the-heck-south Texas
    Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

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    Gloria P Guest

    Default Re: A survey?

    Janet Wilder wrote:
    > James Silverton wrote:
    >> Hello All!
    >>
    >> I saw a recipe in r.f.recipes that called for oleo or butter. Am I
    >> correct in saying that oleo means margerine? Perhaps ChattyCathy might
    >> think it worthy of a survey.
    >>

    >
    > IIRC, its full name is oleomargarine.
    >




    I believe the "oleo" traces back to the word "oil".

    From an etymology website:
    (margarin), a chemical term, "fatty substance obtained from animal and
    vegetable oil," from Fr. margarine, coined by Chevreul (1813) from
    (acide) margarique "margaric (acid) 1836

    So...does that mean oleomargarine = "oily oil"?

    gloria p

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    cybercat Guest

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    "Janet Wilder" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:003e9734$0$9152$[email protected]..
    > James Silverton wrote:
    >> Hello All!
    >>
    >> I saw a recipe in r.f.recipes that called for oleo or butter. Am I
    >> correct in saying that oleo means margerine? Perhaps ChattyCathy might
    >> think it worthy of a survey.
    >>

    >
    > IIRC, its full name is oleomargarine.
    >

    My mother recalled getting the lump of white stuff with the packet of yellow
    coloring during WWII. She hated it so much she never ate or used anything
    but real butter for the rest of her life.



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    James Silverton Guest

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    cybercat wrote on Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:11:10 -0400:


    > "Janet Wilder" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:003e9734$0$9152$[email protected]..
    >> James Silverton wrote:
    >>> Hello All!
    >>>
    >>> I saw a recipe in r.f.recipes that called for oleo or
    >>> butter. Am I correct in saying that oleo means margerine?
    >>> Perhaps ChattyCathy might think it worthy of a survey.
    >>>

    >> IIRC, its full name is oleomargarine.
    >>

    >My mother recalled getting the lump of white stuff with the packet of
    >yellow coloring during WWII. She hated it so much she never ate or used
    >anything but real butter for the rest of her life.


    While WWII places in time the practice of supplying the coloring matter
    separately, it had little to do with the war. The need to personally add
    the color was a concession in some states to the Wisconsin dairy
    industry, AFAIK.


    --

    James Silverton
    Potomac, Maryland

    Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not


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    Michael \Dog3\ Guest

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    "James Silverton" <[email protected]> news:h9tdsh$9en$1
    @news.eternal-september.org: in rec.food.cooking

    > Hello All!
    >
    > I saw a recipe in r.f.recipes that called for oleo or butter. Am I
    > correct in saying that oleo means margerine? Perhaps ChattyCathy might
    > think it worthy of a survey.
    >


    HAH! I learned all about oleo from the good folks in this group years and
    years ago. I had no idea what it was. Oleo is margarine "like" but dyed
    yellow IIRC. It is not butter.

    Michael

    --
    “Always tell the truth - it's the easiest thing to remember”
    ~ American Playwright David Mamet

    You can find me at: - michael at lonergan dot us dot com

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    Omelet Guest

    Default Re: A survey?

    In article
    <[email protected]>,
    maxine <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Sep 29, 9:35*pm, Omelet <ompome...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > > In article <4ac2acaa$0$4994$607ed...@cv.net>,
    > > *"Tom Biasi" <tombi...@optonline.net> wrote:
    > >
    > > > "l, not -l" <lal...@cujo.com> wrote in message
    > > >news:h9ttbp$mkk$[email protected]..

    > >
    > > > > On 29-Sep-2009, "Tom Biasi" <tombi...@optonline.net> wrote:

    > >
    > > > >> > Email, with obvious alterations:
    > > > >> > not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
    > > > >> Why would you survey to find a fact?

    > >
    > > > > Because on RFC facts seldom triumph over opinion. * ;-)
    > > > > --
    > > > Can we do a survey on whether or not cane sugar classifies as a
    > > > carbohydrate?

    > >
    > > Or honey? <g>
    > > I know someone who does not classify oil as a fat... <sigh>

    >
    > And I had an argument with one of my coworkers once when I said humans
    > were mammals. He said we were not animals. Only animals were
    > mammals. He's always right, so there was no point in trying to show
    > him the error of his ways.
    >
    > maxine in ri


    <snork>

    Sounds like a flat earther...
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    Peace! Om

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    --Steve Rothstein

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    Kathleen Guest

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    Omelet wrote:

    > In article
    > <[email protected]>,
    > maxine <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>On Sep 29, 9:35 pm, Omelet <ompome...@gmail.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>>In article <4ac2acaa$0$4994$607ed...@cv.net>,
    >>> "Tom Biasi" <tombi...@optonline.net> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>"l, not -l" <lal...@cujo.com> wrote in message
    >>>>news:h9ttbp$mkk$[email protected]..
    >>>
    >>>>>On 29-Sep-2009, "Tom Biasi" <tombi...@optonline.net> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>>>>Email, with obvious alterations:
    >>>>>>>not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>Why would you survey to find a fact?
    >>>
    >>>>>Because on RFC facts seldom triumph over opinion. ;-)
    >>>>>--
    >>>>
    >>>>Can we do a survey on whether or not cane sugar classifies as a
    >>>>carbohydrate?
    >>>
    >>>Or honey? <g>
    >>>I know someone who does not classify oil as a fat... <sigh>

    >>
    >>And I had an argument with one of my coworkers once when I said humans
    >>were mammals. He said we were not animals. Only animals were
    >>mammals. He's always right, so there was no point in trying to show
    >>him the error of his ways.
    >>
    >>maxine in ri

    >
    >
    > <snork>
    >
    > Sounds like a flat earther...


    We never went to the moon, either.


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    Omelet Guest

    Default Re: A survey?

    In article <ujKwm.20761$[email protected]>,
    Kathleen <[email protected]> wrote:

    > >>>>Can we do a survey on whether or not cane sugar classifies as a
    > >>>>carbohydrate?
    > >>>
    > >>>Or honey? <g>
    > >>>I know someone who does not classify oil as a fat... <sigh>
    > >>
    > >>And I had an argument with one of my coworkers once when I said humans
    > >>were mammals. He said we were not animals. Only animals were
    > >>mammals. He's always right, so there was no point in trying to show
    > >>him the error of his ways.
    > >>
    > >>maxine in ri

    > >
    > >
    > > <snork>
    > >
    > > Sounds like a flat earther...

    >
    > We never went to the moon, either.


    It was all done in a sound studio, and a desert setting!

    <g>
    --
    Peace! Om

    "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."
    --Steve Rothstein

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    blake murphy Guest

    Default Re: A survey?

    On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:07:19 -0700 (PDT), maxine wrote:

    > On Sep 29, 9:35*pm, Omelet <ompome...@gmail.com> wrote:
    >> In article <4ac2acaa$0$4994$607ed...@cv.net>,
    >> *"Tom Biasi" <tombi...@optonline.net> wrote:
    >>
    >>> "l, not -l" <lal...@cujo.com> wrote in message
    >>>news:h9ttbp$mkk$[email protected]..

    >>
    >>> > On 29-Sep-2009, "Tom Biasi" <tombi...@optonline.net> wrote:

    >>
    >>> >> > Email, with obvious alterations:
    >>> >> > not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
    >>> >> Why would you survey to find a fact?

    >>
    >>> > Because on RFC facts seldom triumph over opinion. * ;-)
    >>> > --
    >>> Can we do a survey on whether or not cane sugar classifies as a
    >>> carbohydrate?

    >>
    >> Or honey? <g>
    >> I know someone who does not classify oil as a fat... <sigh>

    >
    > And I had an argument with one of my coworkers once when I said humans
    > were mammals. He said we were _not_ animals. Only animals were
    > mammals. He's always right, so there was no point in trying to show
    > him the error of his ways.
    >
    > maxine in ri


    a fundamentalist christian, i'm guessing?

    your pal,
    blake

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