Thread: supermarket bought beef steak

"good_man" wrote:
>
> Do I need to wash a supermarket bought beef steak? or should I just
> use it right out of the package? Does it make any difference? Probably
> dumb question but still the answer is appreciated.

Rinsing briefly with cold water won't hurt and will wash away schmutz and
bone particles... nothing ruins a steak even before it's cooked like the
bone slivers from the band saw.

good_man wrote:
> Do I need to wash a supermarket bought beef steak? or should I just
> use it right out of the package? Does it make any difference? Probably
> dumb question but still the answer is appreciated. Thanks

No, you don't need to wash it, and from a food-safety point of view,
I've read that rinsing meat and poultry just splatters raw meat juices
everywhere, so I stopped doing it.

Serene

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good_man wrote:
> Do I need to wash a supermarket bought beef steak? or should I just
> use it right out of the package? Does it make any difference? Probably
> dumb question but still the answer is appreciated. Thanks

We do rinse supermarket beef when we get it (which is not often)
But as wife said once and I had no answer (apart from the red wine in
the spag bol takes care of the germs if any)
" what about supermarket mince "Why not wash that ?

I hate it when she does things like that.

Seriously thinking on your question
IMO it is far more important to wash
your hands after handling all foods and before
touching any other

Keep implements and pre tops super clean
and sterile as possible

Never mix cutting boards etc.

A mate of mine who is a chef for a major Food prep
crowd (they support airlines hospitals jails meals on wheels etc)
about 50,000 meals a DAY

Wrote into the employment contracts any one caught not following
the food safe book of rules would lead to INSTANT dismissal and has
done it more than once . Arced up the Unions no end
but the sackings stood even after a court case bought by the unions a
few years back.

Bottom line IMO no need just use SAFE clean practices

Although I have those coloured prep boards
still use wood chopping boards
One for each type
Fish
Meat
Poultry
Veggies
And pork also has its own board

I soak them in Boiling water
was with detergent then scald again with Citric acid
then rinse with boiling water with Bi carb added
Rinse again
Then after that keep the boards in a freezer until next use
in freezer bags within the freezer


Bit over the top perhaps but same chef mate said that
is better than leaving them out in the air or a cupboard.


Boards fit in a normal sink and is no big deal
to scald Solar hot water pretty cheap to run .
HTH

"Serene Vannoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> good_man wrote:
>> Do I need to wash a supermarket bought beef steak? or should I just
>> use it right out of the package? Does it make any difference? Probably
>> dumb question but still the answer is appreciated. Thanks
>
> No, you don't need to wash it, and from a food-safety point of view, I've
> read that rinsing meat and poultry just splatters raw meat juices
> everywhere, so I stopped doing it.
>

You read somewhere but don't say where... hmm. You're simply wrong. And if
you're splattering meat juices everywhere then you're a slob. Actually from
viewing your food prep pictures I know you're a slob.

All meat from a market should always be washed.... there is no less reason
to wash meat then to wash fruit and vegetables.

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:30:49 -0700 (PDT), good_man <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Do I need to wash a supermarket bought beef steak? or should I just
>use it right out of the package? Does it make any difference? Probably
>dumb question but still the answer is appreciated. Thanks

You're cooking it right, nothing to worry about then. If you have a temp probe
the internal temperature should be 160F to 170F or 71C for well done.

"good_man" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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| Do I need to wash a supermarket bought beef steak? or should I just
| use it right out of the package? Does it make any difference? Probably
| dumb question but still the answer is appreciated. Thanks

No it is not at all necessary to wash (I assume you mean to rinse, not
to wash with soapy water) any steak before cooking. Whatever
vile germs are on the meat will be cooked off, and the chance of
spreading contaminates via the rinse water is far higher that any
health benefits you might accrue. As far as minute bone particles,
only the paranoid fringe worries about them, if they are really
neat and clever minute bone particles a rinse will not get rid of
them anyway, they hide near the bone and sneak out to attack
you after the steak is cooked and just as you are eating it.

You might find it interesting to do a Google search on rinsing
chickens before cooking, a similar problem which common knowledge
today says is a far riskier operation than simply cooking the thing
and not spreading germs around. The chicken thing has gotten a
lot of attention lately.

pavane

"STUp" wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:30:49 -0700 (PDT), good_man <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>Do I need to wash a supermarket bought beef steak? or should I just
>>use it right out of the package? Does it make any difference? Probably
>>dumb question but still the answer is appreciated. Thanks
>
> You're cooking it right, nothing to worry about then. If you have a temp
> probe
> the internal temperature should be 160F to 170F or 71C for well done.
>

Yo, STUp, washing meat hasn't a whit to do with bacteriological
contamination, has only to do with rinsing off foreign matter, like schmutz
from falling on the floor and bone particles from sawing.. Germs can't be
washed off meat. What a know nothing about food jerk you are. STUp the
douchebag pretending to know about food and cooking, knows ZERO!

"Stu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> You're cooking it right, nothing to worry about then. If you have a temp
> probe
> the internal temperature should be 160F to 170F or 71C for well done.
>

But if you want it tender and on the rarer side, pull it of at 115 and let
it rest 5 to 10 minutes.

"brooklyn1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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| "Serene Vannoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
| news:[email protected]..
| > good_man wrote:
| >> Do I need to wash a supermarket bought beef steak? or should I just
| >> use it right out of the package? Does it make any difference? Probably
| >> dumb question but still the answer is appreciated. Thanks
| >
| > No, you don't need to wash it, and from a food-safety point of view, I've
| > read that rinsing meat and poultry just splatters raw meat juices
| > everywhere, so I stopped doing it.
| >
|
| You read somewhere but don't say where... hmm. You're simply wrong. And if
| you're splattering meat juices everywhere then you're a slob. Actually from
| viewing your food prep pictures I know you're a slob.
|
| All meat from a market should always be washed.... there is no less reason
| to wash meat then to wash fruit and vegetables.

But the meat that I buy has not been grown in the earth and fertilized
by manure. Are your steaks dipped into earth and manure after the
butcher cuts them? Then you probably should wash them. Where on
earth do you shop, by the way, in a pigsty?

pavane

"brooklyn1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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|
| "STUp" wrote:
| > On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:30:49 -0700 (PDT), good_man <[email protected]>
| > wrote:
| >
| >>Do I need to wash a supermarket bought beef steak? or should I just
| >>use it right out of the package? Does it make any difference? Probably
| >>dumb question but still the answer is appreciated. Thanks
| >
| > You're cooking it right, nothing to worry about then. If you have a temp
| > probe
| > the internal temperature should be 160F to 170F or 71C for well done.
| >
|
| Yo, STUp, washing meat hasn't a whit to do with bacteriological
| contamination, has only to do with rinsing off foreign matter, like schmutz
| from falling on the floor and bone particles from sawing.. Germs can't be
| washed off meat.

Germs can be washed off of hands, you simpleton. Why on earth can't
they be washed off of meat?? God you are dumb.

pavane

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:54:36 -0400, "pavane" <[email protected]>
wrote:

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>"brooklyn1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:nEtbm.1514$[email protected]..
>|
>| "STUp" wrote:
>| > On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:30:49 -0700 (PDT), good_man <[email protected]>
>| > wrote:
>| >
>| >>Do I need to wash a supermarket bought beef steak? or should I just
>| >>use it right out of the package? Does it make any difference? Probably
>| >>dumb question but still the answer is appreciated. Thanks
>| >
>| > You're cooking it right, nothing to worry about then. If you have a temp
>| > probe
>| > the internal temperature should be 160F to 170F or 71C for well done.
>| >
>|
>| Yo, STUp, washing meat hasn't a whit to do with bacteriological
>| contamination, has only to do with rinsing off foreign matter, like schmutz
>| from falling on the floor and bone particles from sawing.. Germs can't be
>| washed off meat.
>
>Germs can be washed off of hands, you simpleton. Why on earth can't
>they be washed off of meat?? God you are dumb.
>
>pavane
>
yes he's a dumb **** all right

"Phil..c" <invalid@invalid> wrote in message
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>
> Bottom line IMO no need just use SAFE clean practices
>
> Although I have those coloured prep boards
> still use wood chopping boards
> One for each type
> Fish
> Meat
> Poultry
> Veggies
> And pork also has its own board
>
> I soak them in Boiling water
> was with detergent then scald again with Citric acid
> then rinse with boiling water with Bi carb added
> Rinse again
> Then after that keep the boards in a freezer until next use
> in freezer bags within the freezer
>
>
> Bit over the top perhaps but same chef mate said that
> is better than leaving them out in the air or a cupboard.
>
>
> Boards fit in a normal sink and is no big deal
> to scald Solar hot water pretty cheap to run .
> HTH

I cannot image that the wood boards would last long with a soak in boiling
water! I only have one wooden cutting board, and it is used for cooked
foods only. It is large, and I put the turkey or brisket on it to rest and
then be carved. Have also used it to cut loaves of bread. I give it a good
scrub with a scrubbie pad, and every few years I sand it back down. Other
boards used for raw foods are all plastic, and are given a ride in the
dishwasher after use. If used for raw meat, they are given a squirt with
bleach spray. Going into the dishwasher does seem to dry out the plastic,
so they are replaced every few years.

Later,

DP
>

good_man <[email protected]> wrote in news:afa80773-7a9f-4811-900f-
[email protected]:

> Do I need to wash a supermarket bought beef steak?


No


> or should I just
> use it right out of the package?


Yes


> Does it make any difference?



No..... unless you use hot soapy water.


> Probably
> dumb question but still the answer is appreciated. Thanks
>


Unless you've dropped the meat into dirt, and don't like the gritty bits
between your teeth, there is absolutely *no* need to wash meat. The
cooking kills any germs on the meat.


But having said that, the only time I have 'rinsed' meat was a whole
cryovaced rump that I left in the bottom of the fridge for 2 months. Took
it out, rinsed it off, sliced it up and had melt in your mouth rump steaks
for the next couple of weeks.



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Dale P wrote:
> "Phil..c" <invalid@invalid> wrote in message

>
> I cannot image that the wood boards would last long with a soak in
> boiling water!

Then welcome to Eucalyptus salubris

Sworn enemy of Stihl and Husky Chain saws, termites and competition
wood choppers

And a BEAUTIFUL TIMBER But boy is it hard

http://www.leetreewoodworks.com/_e/d...013/Gimlet.htm

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:30:49 -0700 (PDT), good_man
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Do I need to wash a supermarket bought beef steak? or should I just
>use it right out of the package? Does it make any difference? Probably
>dumb question but still the answer is appreciated. Thanks

USDA says no rinse necessary if properly cooked.
http://tinyurl.com/22bowf

Ross.

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good_man <[email protected]> wrote:

> Do I need to wash a supermarket bought beef steak? or should I just
> use it right out of the package? Does it make any difference? Probably
> dumb question but still the answer is appreciated. Thanks

I do not, but if it's wetter than I like, I'll wipe it with a paper
towel.

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"Phil..c" <invalid@invalid> wrote in message
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> Dale P wrote:
>> "Phil..c" <invalid@invalid> wrote in message
>
>>
>> I cannot image that the wood boards would last long with a soak in
>> boiling water!
>
> Then welcome to Eucalyptus salubris
>
> Sworn enemy of Stihl and Husky Chain saws, termites and competition wood
> choppers
>
> And a BEAUTIFUL TIMBER But boy is it hard
>
> http://www.leetreewoodworks.com/_e/d...013/Gimlet.htm

Sounds like pretty cool stuff.
DP

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good_man <[email protected]> wrote:

> Do I need to wash a supermarket bought beef steak? or should I just
> use it right out of the package? Does it make any difference? Probably
> dumb question but still the answer is appreciated. Thanks

It won't hurt to use it straight out of the package from a food safety
standpoint, but I've stood and watched the guys at the store do custom
cuts for me as well as the stuff that goes on the shelf on numerous
occasions. It comes straight from the saw into the packages.

Mom taught me many years ago to scrape steaks to remove bone dust.
Prevents gritty surprises.

I've found it easier just to rinse them off before cooking.

I've tasted the difference when I don't do it.

YMMV as always. ;-)
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On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:42:17 -0500, Melba's Jammin' wrote:

> In article
> <[email protected]>,
> good_man <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Do I need to wash a supermarket bought beef steak? or should I just
>> use it right out of the package? Does it make any difference? Probably
>> dumb question but still the answer is appreciated. Thanks
>
> I do not, but if it's wetter than I like, I'll wipe it with a paper
> towel.

i blot them with a paper towel, but i'm sure it makes no difference other
than to make them a little easier to handle.

your pal,
blake