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Thread: SUMMARY: OT: FYI: Friday: New Dog Whisperer: Inside Puppy Mills.

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    Andy Guest

    Default SUMMARY: OT: FYI: Friday: New Dog Whisperer: Inside Puppy Mills.

    > OT: FYI: Friday: New Dog Whisperer: Inside Puppy Mills.


    My summation...

    The program was tragically informative.

    The breeding adults got the worst part of the bargain.

    Next, the puppies get no natural parenting. The loss being the
    deterioration of the pedigree over generations from mill-borns. I've
    witnessed non-parental birth of the mali fowl in VIC, Australia. They lay
    their eggs on the ground then bury them under a mound of straw and leave.
    The babies have to tunnel out after birth to grow up without parenting but
    still know and reproduce their species in the same unknown manner.
    Endangered.

    Under such extremely disgusting conditions it should be illegal to cage
    animals for breeding purposes!!!

    Caesar was himself visually shaken. Give the man an Emmy!

    The closing of the show said it right. Don't buy! Adopt!

    Best,

    Andy

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    enigma Guest

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    Andy <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    > The closing of the show said it right. Don't buy! Adopt!


    if only we could convince the public though... i know so many people
    who buy from pet shops to "rescue" the puppy. i canNOT get it through
    their fat heads that by buying that puppy, they are condemning more
    to be bred. don't buy from pet stores! find a breeder. a GOOD breeder
    will always stand behind his dogs. you should get a lifetime return
    guarantee, for *any* reason you might not be able to keep the dog a
    good breeder will take it back (i have a mutt pup from a breeder. he
    was an accident, but he came with the same guarantees her purebred
    dogs do. he cost me the price of his first vet visit & puppy shots,
    which i'd be paying anyway).
    lee

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    Andy Guest

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    enigma said...

    > Andy <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
    >
    >> The closing of the show said it right. Don't buy! Adopt!

    >
    > if only we could convince the public though... i know so many people
    > who buy from pet shops to "rescue" the puppy. i canNOT get it through
    > their fat heads that by buying that puppy, they are condemning more
    > to be bred. don't buy from pet stores! find a breeder. a GOOD breeder
    > will always stand behind his dogs. you should get a lifetime return
    > guarantee, for *any* reason you might not be able to keep the dog a
    > good breeder will take it back (i have a mutt pup from a breeder. he
    > was an accident, but he came with the same guarantees her purebred
    > dogs do. he cost me the price of his first vet visit & puppy shots,
    > which i'd be paying anyway).
    > lee



    lee,

    About 1/2 mile from the house is an ASPCA. I've visited it once. On a still
    and quiet day I can hear the dogs barking from my house.

    There's no such problem as street dogs in my town though I HAVE seen them
    elsewhere. They are a different issue altogether but actually better off,
    in a sad/twisted sense, imho.

    After losing my Annabelle, my 13 year old Jack Russell terrier some 12+
    years ago, my alpha dog days are gone. <sniffle>

    Best,

    Andy
    --
    Eat first, talk later.

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    Andy Guest

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    Andy said...

    > There's no such problem as street dogs in my town though I HAVE seen them
    > elsewhere. They are a different issue altogether but actually better off,
    > in a sad/twisted sense, imho.



    Sorry, the street dogs issue was from another episode earlier in the day
    ("Big man's life long fear of dogs", my description).

    I'm a big fan of the program since I got digital cable and the NatGeo channel
    last October.

    Andy

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    Kathleen Guest

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    Andy wrote:
    > enigma said...
    >
    >
    >>Andy <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
    >>
    >>
    >>>The closing of the show said it right. Don't buy! Adopt!

    >>
    >> if only we could convince the public though... i know so many people
    >>who buy from pet shops to "rescue" the puppy. i canNOT get it through
    >>their fat heads that by buying that puppy, they are condemning more
    >>to be bred. don't buy from pet stores! find a breeder. a GOOD breeder
    >>will always stand behind his dogs. you should get a lifetime return
    >>guarantee, for *any* reason you might not be able to keep the dog a
    >>good breeder will take it back (i have a mutt pup from a breeder. he
    >>was an accident, but he came with the same guarantees her purebred
    >>dogs do. he cost me the price of his first vet visit & puppy shots,
    >>which i'd be paying anyway).
    >>lee

    >
    >
    >
    > lee,
    >
    > About 1/2 mile from the house is an ASPCA. I've visited it once. On a still
    > and quiet day I can hear the dogs barking from my house.
    >
    > There's no such problem as street dogs in my town though I HAVE seen them
    > elsewhere. They are a different issue altogether but actually better off,
    > in a sad/twisted sense, imho.
    >
    > After losing my Annabelle, my 13 year old Jack Russell terrier some 12+
    > years ago, my alpha dog days are gone. <sniffle>


    What happened to Annabelle? JRTs are a long-lived breed - most from the
    line that my Cooper came from made it well past the 15 year mark that
    I've come to expect with border collies. 18, 19, 20 years... For a
    well-bred, healthy jack, 13 is only late middle age. Our club had a jrt
    that continued racing until he was 15.


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    Andy Guest

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    Kathleen said...

    >> After losing my Annabelle, my 13 year old Jack Russell terrier some 12+
    >> years ago, my alpha dog days are gone. <sniffle>

    >
    > What happened to Annabelle?



    Kathleen,

    I lost Annabelle in my divorce.

    The Ex moved into town 2 miles away.

    A few months after, the Ex got sloppy and Annabelle got loose.

    She was run over crossing the highway only a quarter of a mile from my house,
    trying to come home to me.

    Andy

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    brooklyn1 Guest

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    "enigma" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > Andy <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
    >
    >> The closing of the show said it right. Don't buy! Adopt!

    >
    > if only we could convince the public though... i know so many people
    > who buy from pet shops to "rescue" the puppy. i canNOT get it through
    > their fat heads that by buying that puppy, they are condemning more
    > to be bred. don't buy from pet stores! find a breeder. a GOOD breeder
    > will always stand behind his dogs. you should get a lifetime return
    > guarantee, for *any* reason you might not be able to keep the dog a
    > good breeder will take it back (i have a mutt pup from a breeder. he
    > was an accident, but he came with the same guarantees her purebred
    > dogs do. he cost me the price of his first vet visit & puppy shots,
    > which i'd be paying anyway).
    > lee


    What... you didn't neuter/spay! duh



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    Gregory Morrow Guest

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    brooklyn1 wrote:

    > "enigma" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    > > Andy <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
    > >
    > >> The closing of the show said it right. Don't buy! Adopt!

    > >
    > > if only we could convince the public though... i know so many people
    > > who buy from pet shops to "rescue" the puppy. i canNOT get it through
    > > their fat heads that by buying that puppy, they are condemning more
    > > to be bred. don't buy from pet stores! find a breeder. a GOOD breeder
    > > will always stand behind his dogs. you should get a lifetime return
    > > guarantee, for *any* reason you might not be able to keep the dog a
    > > good breeder will take it back (i have a mutt pup from a breeder. he
    > > was an accident, but he came with the same guarantees her purebred
    > > dogs do. he cost me the price of his first vet visit & puppy shots,
    > > which i'd be paying anyway).
    > > lee

    >
    > What... you didn't neuter/spay! duh



    Gads, is it just me or does this group seem to afflicted as of late with a
    severe case of "The Stoopids", lol...


    --
    Best
    Greg




  9. #9
    Jean B. Guest

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    Andy wrote:
    > Kathleen said...
    >
    >>> After losing my Annabelle, my 13 year old Jack Russell terrier some 12+
    >>> years ago, my alpha dog days are gone. <sniffle>

    >> What happened to Annabelle?

    >
    >
    > Kathleen,
    >
    > I lost Annabelle in my divorce.
    >
    > The Ex moved into town 2 miles away.
    >
    > A few months after, the Ex got sloppy and Annabelle got loose.
    >
    > She was run over crossing the highway only a quarter of a mile from my house,
    > trying to come home to me.
    >
    > Andy


    That is REALLY sad. :-(

    --
    Jean B.

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    Andy Guest

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    Jean B. said...

    > Andy wrote:
    >> Kathleen said...
    >>
    >>>> After losing my Annabelle, my 13 year old Jack Russell terrier some
    >>>> 12+ years ago, my alpha dog days are gone. <sniffle>
    >>> What happened to Annabelle?

    >>
    >>
    >> Kathleen,
    >>
    >> I lost Annabelle in my divorce.
    >>
    >> The Ex moved into town 2 miles away.
    >>
    >> A few months after, the Ex got sloppy and Annabelle got loose.
    >>
    >> She was run over crossing the highway only a quarter of a mile from my
    >> house, trying to come home to me.
    >>
    >> Andy

    >
    > That is REALLY sad. :-(



    Please pass the kleenex!

    Andy

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    enigma Guest

    Default Re: SUMMARY: OT: FYI: Friday: New Dog Whisperer: Inside Puppy Mills.

    "brooklyn1" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:_PhNl.185$[email protected]:

    > What... you didn't neuter/spay! duh


    where'd you get that idea? i got him as a 9 week old puppy. of course
    he wasn't neutered yet! he was neutered at 4 months.
    *all* my dogs(4) & cats(7) are neutered. most are rescues, with the
    exception of Scout (the puppy i've been talking about) & Peanut, my
    son's Boston Terrier that was a Christmas present from my brother.
    because i have 4 dogs, i have a 'kennel license' from my town
    (rather than individual licenses for each dog). this allows us to
    foster dogs waiting for permanent placement, as well.
    lee

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    Kathleen Guest

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    Andy wrote:

    > Kathleen said...
    >
    >
    >>>After losing my Annabelle, my 13 year old Jack Russell terrier some 12+
    >>>years ago, my alpha dog days are gone. <sniffle>

    >>
    >>What happened to Annabelle?

    >
    >
    >
    > Kathleen,
    >
    > I lost Annabelle in my divorce.
    >
    > The Ex moved into town 2 miles away.
    >
    > A few months after, the Ex got sloppy and Annabelle got loose.
    >
    > She was run over crossing the highway only a quarter of a mile from my house,
    > trying to come home to me.
    >
    > Andy


    Oh, no... My daughter and her friend, who also has a jrt, were driving
    home one evening and spotted a loose jrt running down the side of the
    two-lane highway they were on. By the time they were able to stop and
    circle back he'd already been hit.

    His injuries were obviously not survivable but he was still breathing so
    they bundled him into the truck and rushed him to the emergency clinic.
    He'd been chipped, the contact info was up-to-date. His owner was
    called and she raced to the office in time to say goodbye and give
    permission for the final injection.

    He'd dug his way under the fence. His owners were recently divorced and
    he was on his way home to his old house.


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