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    Kalmia Guest

    Default Storing bread question

    Will my ABM bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
    ziplock?

    I have some cute cotton material I could use to make a bag.....even
    matches my kitchen ' decor'. (Man, how I hate that word - along with
    'couture'.).

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    John Kuthe Guest

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    On Jan 9, 8:25*am, Kalmia <tweeny90...@mypacks.net> wrote:
    > Will my ABM bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
    > ziplock?
    >
    > I have some cute cotton material I could use to make a bag.....even
    > matches my kitchen ' decor'. (Man, how I hate that word - along with
    > 'couture'.).


    Bread will "last longer" when stored airtight and refrigerated. It
    will also alter the physical character of the bread, but it will
    inhibit mold growth (the refrigeration) and prevent drying out (the
    airtightness.)

    I buy my extra large sourdough loaf "not sliced and in a plastic bag,
    please" and I store it in my refrigerator and it lasts until I eat it
    all. The crust gets softer, which is the physical characteristic
    change I referred to. I've gotten lectured by the people up at STL
    BreadCo (Panera) about this, because they pride themselves on freshly
    baked bread daily where the crust is kinda tough possibly crispy and
    the crumb is just moist enough and tender. And I have to tell them
    that I realize what I'm doing "ruins" the characteristics of their
    fresh baked bread, but this is what works for me.

    John Kuthe...

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    Serene Vannoy Guest

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    On 01/09/2012 06:25 AM, Kalmia wrote:
    > Will my ABM bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
    > ziplock?
    >
    > I have some cute cotton material I could use to make a bag.....even
    > matches my kitchen ' decor'. (Man, how I hate that word - along with
    > 'couture'.).


    Didn't make ours last longer, though you could put it away before it was
    completely cooled and it wouldn't get damp. The one problem with the
    bags for me was that I bake my ABM bread in a buttered loaf pan, and the
    small amount of butter that came into contact with the bags made the
    bags smell bad. Shame, because they were so pretty! Carin made them for
    me, with embroidery on them. It was sad to lose them.

    Serene

    --
    http://www.momfoodproject.com

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    Julie Bove Guest

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    "Kalmia" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Will my ABM bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
    > ziplock?
    >
    > I have some cute cotton material I could use to make a bag.....even
    > matches my kitchen ' decor'. (Man, how I hate that word - along with
    > 'couture'.).


    I wouldn't think so. Cloth would let air in.



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    Kalmia Guest

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    On Jan 9, 9:25*am, Kalmia <tweeny90...@mypacks.net> wrote:
    > Will my ABM bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
    > ziplock?
    >
    > I have some cute cotton material I could use to make a bag.....even
    > matches my kitchen ' decor'. (Man, how I hate that word - along with
    > 'couture'.).


    I failed to say that I usually don't refrigerate it - it just sits in
    the oven or on a counter in its ziplock. So far I have had few mold
    problems as it's eaten within a few days. I turn the ends into crumbs
    which I store in the freezer. Never could see buying crumbs.

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    Giusi Guest

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    "Kalmia" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio > Will my ABM
    bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
    > ziplock?
    >
    > I have some cute cotton material I could use to make a bag.....even
    > matches my kitchen ' decor'.


    I don't know, but the crust is nicer. We have bread bags that I buy for
    friends in the US. They are useful for hearty loaves uncut, mostly. It's a
    drawstring bag with two layers of cottom seoarated by a layer of holey
    plastic. It can still mold eventually, and if it does it needs a good hot
    water and detergent washing, hang on line. Or out the window or whatever
    you do besides a dryer. A smaller version is for hard cheese which isn't
    usually refrigerated.



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    spamtrap1888 Guest

    Default Re: Storing bread question

    On Jan 9, 6:25*am, Kalmia <tweeny90...@mypacks.net> wrote:
    > Will my ABM bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
    > ziplock?
    >
    > I have some cute cotton material I could use to make a bag.....even
    > matches my kitchen ' decor'. (Man, how I hate that word - along with
    > 'couture'.).


    Freezing is the best way to preserve bread qualities. The second-best
    way I ever found to store baked goods is in a wax paper bag, with the
    end rolled up. This balances crispy crust against staling.

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    Janet Bostwick Guest

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    On Mon, 9 Jan 2012 06:25:57 -0800 (PST), Kalmia
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Will my ABM bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
    >ziplock?
    >
    >I have some cute cotton material I could use to make a bag.....even
    >matches my kitchen ' decor'. (Man, how I hate that word - along with
    >'couture'.).

    It depends on what you mean by lasting longer. If you are making a
    lean bread (flour, water, yeast and salt only), a breathable container
    will preserve the crust longer. If you are making an enriched dough
    bread (contains any or all of the following, eggs, fat of some kind,
    sugar and milk), a bag like a zip lock will do the best job.

    If you can't eat all the bread before it becomes hard or dry or moldy,
    the best thing would be to cut off a portion and freeze it. Staling
    of bread is a chemical process that begins as soon as the bread leaves
    the oven. There is nothing you can do to stop it. Refrigeration
    speeds the staling process. Otherwise, freeze or package as
    suggested. Some ingredients prolong bread life. Eggs, milk,
    lecithin, potato flour and vitamin C.
    Check 'Bread Staling Process' on the Internet. There is lots of
    material.
    Janet US

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    Kalmia Guest

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    On Jan 9, 11:49*am, Janet Bostwick <nos...@cableone.net> wrote:
    *If you are making a
    > lean bread (flour, water, yeast and salt only), a breathable container
    > will preserve the crust longer. *If you are making an enriched dough
    > bread (contains any or all of the following, eggs, fat of some kind,
    > sugar and milk), a bag like a zip lock will do the best job.
    >


    I just KNEW the answer wudn't be simple. This will be my rule of dumb
    now. Thanks. I'll start stitching that bag today.

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    S Viemeister Guest

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    On 1/9/2012 10:58 AM, Giusi wrote:
    > "Kalmia"<[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio> Will my ABM
    > bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
    >> ziplock?
    >>
    >> I have some cute cotton material I could use to make a bag.....even
    >> matches my kitchen ' decor'.

    >
    > I don't know, but the crust is nicer. We have bread bags that I buy for
    > friends in the US. They are useful for hearty loaves uncut, mostly. It's a
    > drawstring bag with two layers of cottom seoarated by a layer of holey
    > plastic. It can still mold eventually, and if it does it needs a good hot
    > water and detergent washing, hang on line. Or out the window or whatever
    > you do besides a dryer. A smaller version is for hard cheese which isn't
    > usually refrigerated.
    >

    I have a similar bread bag, a gift from a friend in Italy, but mine
    doesn't appear to have plastic in the middle. I use it when my bread box
    is too full. And yes, the crust is much nicer when not suffocated in a
    plastic zip bag.


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    Polly Esther Guest

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    "Kalmia" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    On Jan 9, 11:49 am, Janet Bostwick <nos...@cableone.net> wrote:
    If you are making a
    > lean bread (flour, water, yeast and salt only), a breathable container
    > will preserve the crust longer. If you are making an enriched dough
    > bread (contains any or all of the following, eggs, fat of some kind,
    > sugar and milk), a bag like a zip lock will do the best job.
    >


    I just KNEW the answer wudn't be simple. This will be my rule of dumb
    now. Thanks. I'll start stitching that bag today.

    I bake 3 loaves of bread every week. Don't much care if it gets stale;
    going to toast it anyway. My problem was keeping the bread from getting
    mold. The best wrapper I've found is the sack from a Cheerio's box.
    Completely cooling the bread seems to be important before sacking and
    refrigerating or freezing. Polly


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    Dave Smith Guest

    Default Re: Storing bread question

    On 09/01/2012 11:12 AM, spamtrap1888 wrote:
    > On Jan 9, 6:25 am, Kalmia<tweeny90...@mypacks.net> wrote:
    >> Will my ABM bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
    >> ziplock?
    >>
    >> I have some cute cotton material I could use to make a bag.....even
    >> matches my kitchen ' decor'. (Man, how I hate that word - along with
    >> 'couture'.).

    >
    > Freezing is the best way to preserve bread qualities. The second-best
    > way I ever found to store baked goods is in a wax paper bag, with the
    > end rolled up. This balances crispy crust against staling.


    I always freeze bread ASAP after purchase because we eat so little
    bread. A loaf lasts us a week or two. A lot of it gets toasted, which
    just means a few extra seconds in the toaster. Most of the rest is used
    in sandwiches. I can make a sandwich with frozen bread slices and in a
    couple minutes it is thawed and ready to eat.

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    Cheri Guest

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    "Dave Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:7gGOq.50167$[email protected] om...

    > I always freeze bread ASAP after purchase because we eat so little bread.
    > A loaf lasts us a week or two. A lot of it gets toasted, which just means
    > a few extra seconds in the toaster. Most of the rest is used in
    > sandwiches. I can make a sandwich with frozen bread slices and in a couple
    > minutes it is thawed and ready to eat.


    Yes, same here. Frozen is ready by the time you get the other stuff out.

    Cheri



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    Steve Freides Guest

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    Kalmia wrote:
    > Will my ABM bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
    > ziplock?
    >
    > I have some cute cotton material I could use to make a bag.....even
    > matches my kitchen ' decor'. (Man, how I hate that word - along with
    > 'couture'.).


    What's ABM bread?

    -S-



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    Kalmia Guest

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    On Jan 9, 2:45*pm, "Steve Freides" <st...@kbnj.com> wrote:
    > Kalmia wrote:
    > > Will my ABM bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
    > > ziplock?

    >
    > > I have some cute cotton material I could use to make a bag.....even
    > > matches my kitchen ' decor'. (Man, how I hate that word - along with
    > > 'couture'.).

    >
    > What's ABM bread?
    >
    > -S-


    Automatic Bread Machine as opposed to hand kneading.....


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    Nunya Bidnits Guest

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    Steve Freides <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Kalmia wrote:
    >> Will my ABM bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
    >> ziplock?
    >>
    >> I have some cute cotton material I could use to make a bag.....even
    >> matches my kitchen ' decor'. (Man, how I hate that word - along with
    >> 'couture'.).

    >
    > What's ABM bread?
    >
    > -S-


    I wondered too but I think they mean Automatic Bread Machine.



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    Janet Bostwick Guest

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    On Mon, 9 Jan 2012 11:56:02 -0600, "Polly Esther"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    snip
    >Completely cooling the bread seems to be important before sacking and
    >refrigerating or freezing. Polly


    Yes, complete cooling is very important. It is essentially part of
    the baking process in that the starches complete gelatination (sp).
    The crust becomes stable during this time. But also, cooling allows
    moisture away from the crust and a damp crust would lead to moldiness.
    Thankfully, I live in a dry climate and bread molds are a rarity.
    Janet US

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    Melba's Jammin' Guest

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    In article
    <[email protected]>,
    Kalmia <twee[email protected]> wrote:

    > Will my ABM bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
    > ziplock?
    >
    > I have some cute cotton material I could use to make a bag.....even
    > matches my kitchen ' decor'. (Man, how I hate that word - along with
    > 'couture'.).


    I think it will dry out faster but will maintain a crisper crust than
    had it been stored in a plastic bag.
    --
    Barb,
    http://web.me.com/barbschaller September 5, 2011

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    Ed Pawlowski Guest

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    On Mon, 9 Jan 2012 06:25:57 -0800 (PST), Kalmia
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Will my ABM bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
    >ziplock?
    >
    >I have some cute cotton material I could use to make a bag.....even
    >matches my kitchen ' decor'. (Man, how I hate that word - along with
    >'couture'.).


    The cotton will pass air and stale it quicker. My preference is a
    paper bag. It will stale after a few days, but never gets mold. Once
    stale it becomes breadcrumbs.

    Plastic bags can work, but be sure it is cooled first. The downside
    is, the crust will get soft in hours.

    It is OK to freeze bread, but never put it in the fridge. It will dry
    out faster there than any other place. If you Google storing bread,
    it clearly is the least favorite place for bread.

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    Brooklyn1 Guest

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    On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 22:28:42 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Mon, 9 Jan 2012 06:25:57 -0800 (PST), Kalmia
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>Will my ABM bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
    >>ziplock?
    >>
    >>I have some cute cotton material I could use to make a bag.....even
    >>matches my kitchen ' decor'. (Man, how I hate that word - along with
    >>'couture'.).

    >
    >The cotton will pass air and stale it quicker. My preference is a
    >paper bag. It will stale after a few days, but never gets mold. Once
    >stale it becomes breadcrumbs.
    >
    >Plastic bags can work, but be sure it is cooled first. The downside
    >is, the crust will get soft in hours.
    >
    >It is OK to freeze bread, but never put it in the fridge. It will dry
    >out faster there than any other place. If you Google storing bread,
    >it clearly is the least favorite place for bread.


    I've found it depends on what kind of bread. Home made and good
    bakery bread has a short shelf life even in a bread box, if not going
    to consume it within two days it's best to freeze it. But plastic
    bagged packaged breads from the stupidmarket refrigerate just fine...
    if careful to take what you need without handling the rest, reseal,
    and put it back in the fridge immediately it can keep for like two
    weeks in the fridge without deteriorating. If you can buy this
    company's products where you live I recommend you try them, they
    contain no preservatives. I've tried them all and all are very good
    but I do have my favorites, I typically have 2-3 loaves in my freezer
    and one in my fridge. Since discovering this product I rarely bake
    bread anymore and buy from bakeries only occasionally. There's a
    store locator at their web site:
    http://www.heidelbergbakingco.com/

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