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  1. #1
    Bryan Guest

    Default Stores not carrying standard brands

    A few weeks ago, I had to go the Schnuck's because Shop'n Save does
    not carry Grey Poupon, at all. However one feels about GP, it is the
    standard dijon mustard, like Heinz is the standard ketchup. Today, I
    had to leave Schnuck's and drive to SnS because Schnuck's no longer
    carries Crosse & Blackwell cocktail sauce, also the standard. A
    couple of years ago, both stores stocked both brands. Aggravating.

    --Bryan

  2. #2
    Ed Pawlowski Guest

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    ?
    "Bryan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > A few weeks ago, I had to go the Schnuck's because Shop'n Save does
    > not carry Grey Poupon, at all. However one feels about GP, it is the
    > standard dijon mustard, like Heinz is the standard ketchup. Today, I
    > had to leave Schnuck's and drive to SnS because Schnuck's no longer
    > carries Crosse & Blackwell cocktail sauce, also the standard. A
    > couple of years ago, both stores stocked both brands. Aggravating.
    >
    > --Bryan


    They are the standard if you like them. Other brands may be favored by
    others. GP may not be as profitable so the other brands are carried.

    As for cocktail sauce, it is far better to make your own, rather than
    processed. I can make it the way I like it.


  3. #3
    Bryan Guest

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    On Dec 31, 11:34*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snetnospam.net> wrote:
    > ?"Bryan" <bryangsimm...@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >
    > news:[email protected]..
    >
    > > A few weeks ago, I had to go the Schnuck's because Shop'n Save does
    > > not carry Grey Poupon, at all. *However one feels about GP, it is the
    > > standard dijon mustard, like Heinz is the standard ketchup. *Today, I
    > > had to leave Schnuck's and drive to SnS because Schnuck's no longer
    > > carries Crosse & Blackwell cocktail sauce, also the standard. *A
    > > couple of years ago, both stores stocked both brands. *Aggravating.

    >
    > > --Bryan

    >
    > They are the standard if you like them. Other brands may be favored by
    > others. *GP may not be as profitable so the other brands are carried.


    Sure, and I wrote, "However one feels about GP..."
    >
    > As for cocktail sauce, it is far better to make your own, rather than
    > processed. *I can make it the way I like it.


    C&B is darned good, better than any I've tried, but it's not about my
    preference,
    but about it being a national brand.

    --Bryan

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    Christopher Helms Guest

    Default Re: Stores not carrying standard brands

    On Dec 31 2010, 11:34*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snetnospam.net> wrote:
    > ?"Bryan" <bryangsimm...@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >
    > news:[email protected]..
    >
    > > A few weeks ago, I had to go the Schnuck's because Shop'n Save does
    > > not carry Grey Poupon, at all. *However one feels about GP, it is the
    > > standard dijon mustard, like Heinz is the standard ketchup. *Today, I
    > > had to leave Schnuck's and drive to SnS because Schnuck's no longer
    > > carries Crosse & Blackwell cocktail sauce, also the standard. *A
    > > couple of years ago, both stores stocked both brands. *Aggravating.

    >
    > > --Bryan

    >
    > They are the standard if you like them. Other brands may be favored by
    > others. *GP may not be as profitable so the other brands are carried.



    The economy might be affecting the distribution of high end, fancy
    condiments.


  5. #5
    Bryan Guest

    Default Re: Stores not carrying standard brands

    On Jan 1, 4:21*am, Christopher Helms <Chrishelms...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > On Dec 31 2010, 11:34*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snetnospam.net> wrote:
    >
    > > ?"Bryan" <bryangsimm...@gmail.com> wrote in message

    >
    > >news:d304eb7f-bb38-4078-8d9c-1[email protected]..

    >
    > > > A few weeks ago, I had to go the Schnuck's because Shop'n Save does
    > > > not carry Grey Poupon, at all. *However one feels about GP, it is the
    > > > standard dijon mustard, like Heinz is the standard ketchup. *Today,I
    > > > had to leave Schnuck's and drive to SnS because Schnuck's no longer
    > > > carries Crosse & Blackwell cocktail sauce, also the standard. *A
    > > > couple of years ago, both stores stocked both brands. *Aggravating.

    >
    > > > --Bryan

    >
    > > They are the standard if you like them. Other brands may be favored by
    > > others. *GP may not be as profitable so the other brands are carried.

    >
    > The economy might be affecting the distribution of high end, fancy
    > condiments.


    Those aren't particularly pricey, just, I guess you could call them
    popular premium. Both have brands that are more expensive than GP,
    and the C&B wasn't significantly higher than the Kraft.
    http://www.amazon.com/Crosse-Blackwe.../dp/B0000TA3GM
    The way that distributors pay for shelf space makes things screwy.
    The other thing that Shop'n Save doesn't carry is dried cherries.
    These things: http://fresh.amazon.com/product?asin...KNK&sim=detail
    They used to have them. Grrr.

    --Bryan

  6. #6
    J Guest

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    On Jan 1, 5:21*am, Christopher Helms <Chrishelms...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    > The economy might be affecting the distribution of high end, fancy
    > condiments.



    Also, the demographic of the shop itself might be changing. Where I
    live in New York City, the various waves of immigration have brought
    many Hispanics to our neighborhood, followed by Poles and other Slavs
    (go figure!). The Spanish cook doesn't know Grey Poupon, s/he knows
    and wants Goya--which was initially unfamiliar to me, but is perfectly
    good stuff. The supermarket manager must stock what the majority of
    his customers purchase most of the time. Yesterday's standard brands
    may be today's specialty items.

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    l, not -l Guest

    Default Re: Stores not carrying standard brands


    On 31-Dec-2010, "Ed Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > "Bryan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    > > A few weeks ago, I had to go the Schnuck's because Shop'n Save does
    > > not carry Grey Poupon, at all. However one feels about GP, it is the
    > > standard dijon mustard, like Heinz is the standard ketchup. Today, I
    > > had to leave Schnuck's and drive to SnS because Schnuck's no longer
    > > carries Crosse & Blackwell cocktail sauce, also the standard. A
    > > couple of years ago, both stores stocked both brands. Aggravating.
    > >
    > > --Bryan

    >
    > They are the standard if you like them. Other brands may be favored by
    > others. GP may not be as profitable so the other brands are carried.


    I shop Schnuck's regularly, and at one of their smaller stores; they carry
    at least a dozen brands, with a wide variety of mustard styles in each
    brand. And, dijon is nearly universal across brands. In fact, dijon is
    available in both Schnuck's house-brands, the regular and "premium" lines.

    To see that wide a variety and to say that one brand and style is "the
    standard" is laughable and suggests that someone is most susceptable to
    advertising.
    --
    Change Cujo to Juno in email address.

  8. #8
    George Guest

    Default Re: Stores not carrying standard brands

    On 1/1/2011 12:34 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
    > ?
    > "Bryan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    >> A few weeks ago, I had to go the Schnuck's because Shop'n Save does
    >> not carry Grey Poupon, at all. However one feels about GP, it is the
    >> standard dijon mustard, like Heinz is the standard ketchup. Today, I
    >> had to leave Schnuck's and drive to SnS because Schnuck's no longer
    >> carries Crosse & Blackwell cocktail sauce, also the standard. A
    >> couple of years ago, both stores stocked both brands. Aggravating.
    >>
    >> --Bryan

    >
    > They are the standard if you like them. Other brands may be favored by
    > others. GP may not be as profitable so the other brands are carried.
    >
    > As for cocktail sauce, it is far better to make your own, rather than
    > processed. I can make it the way I like it.


    Yes, the bottled stuff isn't even close to making a fresh batch.

  9. #9
    blake murphy Guest

    Default Re: Stores not carrying standard brands

    On Sat, 1 Jan 2011 06:35:28 -0800 (PST), J wrote:

    > On Jan 1, 5:21*am, Christopher Helms <Chrishelms...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >>
    >> The economy might be affecting the distribution of high end, fancy
    >> condiments.

    >
    > Also, the demographic of the shop itself might be changing. Where I
    > live in New York City, the various waves of immigration have brought
    > many Hispanics to our neighborhood, followed by Poles and other Slavs
    > (go figure!). The Spanish cook doesn't know Grey Poupon, s/he knows
    > and wants Goya--which was initially unfamiliar to me, but is perfectly
    > good stuff. The supermarket manager must stock what the majority of
    > his customers purchase most of the time. Yesterday's standard brands
    > may be today's specialty items.


    goya makes mustard?

    your pal,
    blake

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    gloria.p Guest

    Default Re: Stores not carrying standard brands

    Christopher Helms wrote:

    >
    > The economy might be affecting the distribution of high end, fancy
    > condiments.
    >



    That would be my guess. In order to keep the same profit margin, the
    stores might have to price the standard brands/fancier labels too high
    to make them attractive for their clientèle so the store buyers go to
    cheaper brands.

    gloria p

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    JonquilJan Guest

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    "J" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    On Jan 1, 5:21 am, Christopher Helms <Chrishelms...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    > The economy might be affecting the distribution of high end, fancy
    > condiments.



    Also, the demographic of the shop itself might be changing. Where I
    live in New York City, the various waves of immigration have brought
    many Hispanics to our neighborhood, followed by Poles and other Slavs
    (go figure!). The Spanish cook doesn't know Grey Poupon, s/he knows
    and wants Goya--which was initially unfamiliar to me, but is perfectly
    good stuff. The supermarket manager must stock what the majority of
    his customers purchase most of the time. Yesterday's standard brands
    may be today's specialty items.

    Exactly. I have a friend who is the grocery manager at the local 'super'
    market. He has had to go more and more to a 'store' brand for many items -
    less expensive and moves a lot faster than the name brands. Last year, they
    completely got rid of WASA flatbread crackers - closing out the entire stock
    at half price (I cleared the shelves for that one - had good coupons on top
    of the close out price). For much of the 'public' it's not the taste but
    the price - unfortunately.

    Jan

    Learn something new every day
    As long as you are learning, you are living
    When you stop learning, you start dying



  12. #12
    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: Stores not carrying standard brands


    "blake murphy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Sat, 1 Jan 2011 06:35:28 -0800 (PST), J wrote:
    >
    >> On Jan 1, 5:21 am, Christopher Helms <Chrishelms...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> The economy might be affecting the distribution of high end, fancy
    >>> condiments.

    >>
    >> Also, the demographic of the shop itself might be changing. Where I
    >> live in New York City, the various waves of immigration have brought
    >> many Hispanics to our neighborhood, followed by Poles and other Slavs
    >> (go figure!). The Spanish cook doesn't know Grey Poupon, s/he knows
    >> and wants Goya--which was initially unfamiliar to me, but is perfectly
    >> good stuff. The supermarket manager must stock what the majority of
    >> his customers purchase most of the time. Yesterday's standard brands
    >> may be today's specialty items.

    >
    > goya makes mustard?
    >

    I think they make everything!



  13. #13
    George Guest

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    On 1/1/2011 9:51 AM, l, not -l wrote:
    > On 31-Dec-2010, "Ed Pawlowski"<[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> "Bryan"<[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]..
    >>> A few weeks ago, I had to go the Schnuck's because Shop'n Save does
    >>> not carry Grey Poupon, at all. However one feels about GP, it is the
    >>> standard dijon mustard, like Heinz is the standard ketchup. Today, I
    >>> had to leave Schnuck's and drive to SnS because Schnuck's no longer
    >>> carries Crosse& Blackwell cocktail sauce, also the standard. A
    >>> couple of years ago, both stores stocked both brands. Aggravating.
    >>>
    >>> --Bryan

    >>
    >> They are the standard if you like them. Other brands may be favored by
    >> others. GP may not be as profitable so the other brands are carried.

    >
    > I shop Schnuck's regularly, and at one of their smaller stores; they carry
    > at least a dozen brands, with a wide variety of mustard styles in each
    > brand. And, dijon is nearly universal across brands. In fact, dijon is
    > available in both Schnuck's house-brands, the regular and "premium" lines.
    >
    > To see that wide a variety and to say that one brand and style is "the
    > standard" is laughable and suggests that someone is most susceptable to
    > advertising.


    Pretty much all something being "a standard" means is that the
    manufacturer was able to buy enough mind share.

    I think the best commercial mustard/pickle/preserve products are
    produced by a PA company named "Bell-View". I have never seen them
    advertise and the quality is quite good and as a bonus they cost less.

  14. #14
    Ed Pawlowski Guest

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    ?
    "George" <[email protected]> wrote
    > I think the best commercial mustard/pickle/preserve products are produced
    > by a PA company named "Bell-View". I have never seen them advertise and
    > the quality is quite good and as a bonus they cost less.


    Every couple of months we go to Ocean State Job Lot, a regional chain of
    closeouts and discounted goods. They have some of the lesser know brands of
    some items at very low prices. Many of the brands are superior to the "name
    brand" products. They also carry some brand name items that the big store
    no longer carry due to low sales volume. Heinz Cream of Whatever soup may
    not be a mainstream item, but appeals to others and the price is half the
    retail stores.


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    Ed Pawlowski Guest

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    ?
    "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote
    >>> The Spanish cook doesn't know Grey Poupon, s/he knows
    >>> and wants Goya--which was initially unfamiliar to me, but is perfectly
    >>> good stuff. The supermarket manager must stock what the majority of
    >>> his customers purchase most of the time. Yesterday's standard brands
    >>> may be today's specialty items.

    >>
    >> goya makes mustard?
    >>

    > I think they make everything!
    >


    But not mustard. Ketchup, mayo, six types of adobo and lots more, but I
    could not find mustard on their web page.


  16. #16
    Brooklyn1 Guest

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    On Sat, 1 Jan 2011 17:30:13 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >?
    >"Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote
    >>>> The Spanish cook doesn't know Grey Poupon, s/he knows
    >>>> and wants Goya--which was initially unfamiliar to me, but is perfectly
    >>>> good stuff. The supermarket manager must stock what the majority of
    >>>> his customers purchase most of the time. Yesterday's standard brands
    >>>> may be today's specialty items.
    >>>
    >>> goya makes mustard?
    >>>

    >> I think they make everything!
    >>

    >
    >But not mustard. Ketchup, mayo, six types of adobo and lots more, but I
    >could not find mustard on their web page.


    Right. Goya does not offer prepared mustard. Latinos are not
    consumers of mustard, it's not a part of their cousine. Latinos are
    mostly into all sorts of hot pepper sauces, and they are huge, HUGE
    consumers of mayo.

    http://www.goya.com/english/product_...ng-Ingredients

  17. #17
    Bryan Guest

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    On Jan 1, 11:51*am, blake murphy <blakepmNOTT...@verizon.net> wrote:
    > On Sat, 1 Jan 2011 14:51:29 GMT, l, not -l wrote:
    > > On 31-Dec-2010, "Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snetnospam.net> wrote:

    >
    > >> "Bryan" <bryangsimm...@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > >>news:[email protected]...
    > >>> A few weeks ago, I had to go the Schnuck's because Shop'n Save does
    > >>> not carry Grey Poupon, at all. *However one feels about GP, it is the
    > >>> standard dijon mustard, like Heinz is the standard ketchup. *Today,I
    > >>> had to leave Schnuck's and drive to SnS because Schnuck's no longer
    > >>> carries Crosse & Blackwell cocktail sauce, also the standard. *A
    > >>> couple of years ago, both stores stocked both brands. *Aggravating.

    >
    > >>> --Bryan

    >
    > >> They are the standard if you like them. Other brands may be favored by
    > >> others. *GP may not be as profitable so the other brands are carried..

    >
    > > I shop Schnuck's regularly, and at one of their smaller stores; they carry
    > > at least a dozen brands, with a wide variety of mustard styles in each
    > > brand. *And, dijon is nearly universal across brands. *In fact, dijon is
    > > available in both Schnuck's house-brands, the regular and "premium" lines.


    And Schnucks does carry GP. Shop'n Save does not.
    >
    > > To see that wide a variety and to say that one brand and style is "the
    > > standard" is laughable and suggests that someone is most susceptable to
    > > advertising.


    Certainly advertising has played a role, but what of that?
    >
    > maybe you haven't noticed this, but bobo tends to be pretty rigid in his
    > 'thinking.'


    While this data is very old, it is still relevant:
    "Grey Poupon Dijon mustard, which has 9.1% or less fat content, is the
    largest selling Dijon mustard in the U.S., with a 78% market share,
    according to Nabisco."
    source-- http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...3/ai_15638455/
    >
    > your pal,
    > blake


    --Bryan

  18. #18
    George Guest

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    On 1/1/2011 5:19 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
    > ?
    > "George" <[email protected]> wrote
    >> I think the best commercial mustard/pickle/preserve products are
    >> produced by a PA company named "Bell-View". I have never seen them
    >> advertise and the quality is quite good and as a bonus they cost less.

    >
    > Every couple of months we go to Ocean State Job Lot, a regional chain of
    > closeouts and discounted goods. They have some of the lesser know brands
    > of some items at very low prices. Many of the brands are superior to the
    > "name brand" products. They also carry some brand name items that the
    > big store no longer carry due to low sales volume. Heinz Cream of
    > Whatever soup may not be a mainstream item, but appeals to others and
    > the price is half the retail stores.


    Here is the outfit I mentioned:

    https://bellview.com/shop/ (prices on the web store are significantly
    more than grocery store prices). The local family owned market where we
    buy most of out stuff probably has 30' of aisle devoted to Bell-View
    products.


    This is my favorite mustard:

    https://bellview.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=189

    I also like this one:

    https://bellview.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=183

    As I mentioned the quality is better than the heavily advertised brands.

  19. #19
    Christopher Helms Guest

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    On Jan 1, 8:35*am, J <jmel...@verizon.net> wrote:
    > On Jan 1, 5:21*am, Christopher Helms <Chrishelms...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    > > The economy might be affecting the distribution of high end, fancy
    > > condiments.

    >
    > Also, the demographic of the shop itself might be changing. Where I
    > live in New York City, the various waves of immigration have brought
    > many Hispanics to our neighborhood, followed by Poles and other Slavs
    > (go figure!). The Spanish cook doesn't know Grey Poupon, s/he knows
    > and wants Goya--which was initially unfamiliar to me, but is perfectly
    > good stuff. The supermarket manager must stock what the majority of
    > his customers purchase most of the time. Yesterday's standard brands
    > may be today's specialty items.



    Goya does make some good stuff. One of the benefits of the influx of
    latinos has been the appearance of things like corn flour, Mexican
    Coca-Cola made with real sugar and good salsa verde. The common brand
    SV that's been available up here forever is awful. It tastes like it's
    made with nothing more than green tomatoes and vinegar.

  20. #20
    Julie Bove Guest

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    "Ed Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected] ...
    > ?
    > "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote
    >>>> The Spanish cook doesn't know Grey Poupon, s/he knows
    >>>> and wants Goya--which was initially unfamiliar to me, but is perfectly
    >>>> good stuff. The supermarket manager must stock what the majority of
    >>>> his customers purchase most of the time. Yesterday's standard brands
    >>>> may be today's specialty items.
    >>>
    >>> goya makes mustard?
    >>>

    >> I think they make everything!
    >>

    >
    > But not mustard. Ketchup, mayo, six types of adobo and lots more, but I
    > could not find mustard on their web page.


    Okay then. I don't think any stores carry that brand here. It was very
    common on the East Coast. Mostly I bought their beans.



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