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  1. #1
    GDenke Guest

    Default Stonehenge Luau

    Stonehenge Luau

    The 56 Aubrey Holes
    Mumu - Kalua - Imu

    Given actual Sizes of the Fifty-six (56) Aubrey Holes from Geophysical
    data, 5,040 attendees (Coaches and Teams included) ate at the
    Stonehenge Luau.

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...09d77769ac7439
    http://ads.ahds.ac.uk/catalogue/coll...blurbs/393.cfm

    56 Pigs x 120 Pounds X 75 Percent = 5,040 Attendees

    http://www.smith.edu/hsc/museum/anci...ons/hsc22b.htm
    http://www.open2.net/forum/showthrea...3472#post23472

    Based on the Average size and depth of the 56 Aubrey Holes, the weight
    of Stonehenge Luau pigs averaged roughly 120 pounds per Stonehenge
    Mumu. And since an 120 pound hog from each Stonehenge Kalua fed about
    90 people, the 56 Stonehenge Imu pits fed approximately 5,040 people.
    So the first Stonehenge Super Bowl had roughly 5,040 attendees and,
    interesting enough, that was the population of Durrington Walls about
    the time.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_%28ball%29
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OuKmzQjg7c

    56 Aubrey Hog Holes are different sizes
    because the 56 Aubrey Pig sizes varied.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luau
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalua

    Doctor Garry Denke (1622-1699)
    Historian, Antiquarian, Dentist
    Stone Hedge Diary of 1656

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OuKmzQjg7c

    [email protected]

  2. #2
    [email protected] Guest

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    On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:34:58 -0700 (PDT), GDenke <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >Stonehenge Luau
    >
    >The 56 Aubrey Holes
    >Mumu - Kalua - Imu
    >
    >Given actual Sizes of the Fifty-six (56) Aubrey Holes from Geophysical
    >data, 5,040 attendees (Coaches and Teams included) ate at the
    >Stonehenge Luau.
    >
    >http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...09d77769ac7439
    >http://ads.ahds.ac.uk/catalogue/coll...blurbs/393.cfm
    >
    >56 Pigs x 120 Pounds X 75 Percent = 5,040 Attendees
    >
    >http://www.smith.edu/hsc/museum/anci...ons/hsc22b.htm
    >http://www.open2.net/forum/showthrea...3472#post23472
    >
    >Based on the Average size and depth of the 56 Aubrey Holes, the weight
    >of Stonehenge Luau pigs averaged roughly 120 pounds per Stonehenge
    >Mumu. And since an 120 pound hog from each Stonehenge Kalua fed about
    >90 people, the 56 Stonehenge Imu pits fed approximately 5,040 people.
    >So the first Stonehenge Super Bowl had roughly 5,040 attendees and,
    >interesting enough, that was the population of Durrington Walls about
    >the time.
    >
    >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_%28ball%29
    >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OuKmzQjg7c
    >
    >56 Aubrey Hog Holes are different sizes
    >because the 56 Aubrey Pig sizes varied.
    >
    >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luau
    >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalua
    >
    >Doctor Garry Denke (1622-1699)
    >Historian, Antiquarian, Dentist
    >Stone Hedge Diary of 1656
    >
    >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OuKmzQjg7c
    >
    >[email protected]


    I never click on links and am sure that I miss a lot but my computer
    is too important to compromise. Despite all my protection, I just
    never click on an unknown site. haven't missed much so far,
    but.....what is this about? Could you just give slight info?

    Much appreciated.

    aloha,
    Cea
    roast beans to kona to email
    farmers of Pure Kona

  3. #3
    GDenke Guest

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    The Aubrey Holes '56 Pig Fats Residue

    Residue hog fats are preserved at archaeological Stonehenge Luau in
    association with the '56 Aubrey Holes (pig roast - Mumu, Kalua, Imu -
    hole pits), below their human cremations and animal remains. High-
    temperature gas chromatography (HT-GC) and combined HT-GC/mass
    spectrometry (HT-GC/MS) has confirmed the presence of Mumu, Kalua, Imu
    residue hog fats in lipid extracts from Doctor Garry Denke (1622-1699,
    historian, antiquarian, dentist) '56 Aubrey Holes' hollowstem auger
    core drill samples.

    The origins of Stonehenge Luau preserved residue pig fats were
    determined through detailed compositional analysis of their component
    fatty acids by GC, by GC/MS of dimethyl disulfide derivatives of
    monoenoic components, and by GC-combustion-isotope ratio-MS (GC-C-
    IRMS), which derived diagenetically robust 13C values. Regiospecific
    analysis of intact triacylglycerols by high-performance liquid
    chromatography/MS (HPLC/MS) established the origin of Stonehenge Luau
    hog fats; Durrington Walls.

    Anyone else have Residue Pig Fats in their '56 Aubrey Holes core
    samples?

    http://arheologija.ff.uni-lj.si/docu...29evershed.pdf
    Indiana University of Pennsylvania Organic Geochemistry
    Arizona State University Biogeochemistry Research

    [email protected]

  4. #4
    sf Guest

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    On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:14:24 -1000, [email protected] wrote:

    >On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:34:58 -0700 (PDT), GDenke <[email protected]>
    >wrote:
    >
    >>Stonehenge Luau
    >>

    <snip>
    >>
    >>56 Aubrey Hog Holes are different sizes
    >>because the 56 Aubrey Pig sizes varied.
    >>
    >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luau
    >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalua
    >>
    >>Doctor Garry Denke (1622-1699)
    >>Historian, Antiquarian, Dentist
    >>Stone Hedge Diary of 1656
    >>
    >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OuKmzQjg7c
    >>
    >>[email protected]

    >
    >I never click on links and am sure that I miss a lot but my computer
    >is too important to compromise. Despite all my protection, I just
    >never click on an unknown site. haven't missed much so far,
    >but.....what is this about? Could you just give slight info?
    >
    >Much appreciated.
    >
    >aloha,
    >Cea


    Wiki isn't exactly unknown... but I found it all by myself
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aubrey_holes - which says, basically,
    they don't know what the holes were used for.

    He's just funning with us because something called a Slaughter Stone
    is there and there is evidence of ancient cremation burials.
    1+1= Stonehenge Luau

    This is cool! It's a 360° view from inside the circle.
    http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/s...show/nav.18774
    Aerial view of Stonehenge
    http://www.sacredsites.com/europe/en...tonehenge.html

    Are you going to England? You can still get up close to this one
    http://www.sacredsites.com/europe/england/avebury.html


    --
    I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

    Mae West

  5. #5
    GDenke Guest

    Default Re: Stonehenge Luau

    Stonehenge Pig Roast

    Above Ground Cooking (Durrington Walls)
    http://www.shef.ac.uk/archaeology/re...nehenge05.html

    Pit Roasting Underground (Stonehenge)
    http://www.smith.edu/hsc/museum/anci...ons/hsc22b.htm

    Aubrey Holes Pig Roast

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    [email protected] Guest

    Default Re: Stonehenge Luau

    On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:58:56 -0700 (PDT), GDenke <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >The Aubrey Holes '56 Pig Fats Residue
    >
    >Residue hog fats are preserved at archaeological Stonehenge Luau in
    >association with the '56 Aubrey Holes (pig roast - Mumu, Kalua, Imu -
    >hole pits), below their human cremations and animal remains. High-
    >temperature gas chromatography (HT-GC) and combined HT-GC/mass
    >spectrometry (HT-GC/MS) has confirmed the presence of Mumu, Kalua, Imu
    >residue hog fats in lipid extracts from Doctor Garry Denke (1622-1699,
    >historian, antiquarian, dentist) '56 Aubrey Holes' hollowstem auger
    >core drill samples.
    >
    >The origins of Stonehenge Luau preserved residue pig fats were
    >determined through detailed compositional analysis of their component
    >fatty acids by GC, by GC/MS of dimethyl disulfide derivatives of
    >monoenoic components, and by GC-combustion-isotope ratio-MS (GC-C-
    >IRMS), which derived diagenetically robust 13C values. Regiospecific
    >analysis of intact triacylglycerols by high-performance liquid
    >chromatography/MS (HPLC/MS) established the origin of Stonehenge Luau
    >hog fats; Durrington Walls.
    >
    >Anyone else have Residue Pig Fats in their '56 Aubrey Holes core
    >samples?
    >
    >http://arheologija.ff.uni-lj.si/docu...29evershed.pdf
    >Indiana University of Pennsylvania Organic Geochemistry
    >Arizona State University Biogeochemistry Research
    >
    >[email protected]


    Wow, thanks for posting all that. My skepticism lies in the use of
    the following words: <mumu>(in Hawaiian it means to "rinse out the
    mouth", <kalua> (in Hawaiian it means "to bake in a ground oven; to
    burn brick or lime;baked", <imu> (in Hawaiian "ground oven").

    Or is like the <wiki> in wikipedia which in Hawaiian means" fast" and
    like a few otehrs like <lei> and <lanai>, real Hawaiian words that
    have made into general usage.

    just interesting.

    I've been to Stonehenge and was awed by it and at the same time, I
    thought it would be so much grander, because of its reputation. Silly
    me. But we did get to even touch the stones then.

    aloha,
    beans
    roast beans to kona to email
    farmers of Pure Kona

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    GDenke Guest

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    An earth oven or cooking pit is one of the most simple and long-used
    cooking structures. At its simplest, an earth oven is simply a pit in
    the ground used to trap heat and bake or steam food. Earth ovens have
    been used in many places and cultures in the past, and the presence of
    such cooking pits is a key sign of human settlement often sought by
    archaeologists, and remain a common tool for cooking large quantities
    of food where no equipment is available.

    To bake food, the fire is built, then allowed to burn down to a
    smolder, and the food is placed in the oven and covered (this can be
    used for bread-baking, for example, and has been used in some cultures
    for soldiers on military expeditions). Steaming is similar; fire-
    heated rocks in a pit are covered with green vegetation, large
    quantities of food, more green vegetation (and sometimes water), and
    then a final covering of earth. Food takes several hours to cook
    whether by dry or wet methods.

    Today, many communities still use cooking pits, at least for
    ceremonial or celebratory occasions: the Hawaiian luau, Mâori hângi
    and the New England clam bake. The central Asian tandoor, used
    primarily for uncovered, live-fire baking, is a transitional design
    between the earth oven and the horizontal-plan masonry oven,
    essentially a permanent earth oven made out of clay or firebrick with
    a constantly burning, very hot fire in the bottom. In modern times,
    earth ovens are sometimes used for outdoor cooking and recreational
    meals in lieu of an open campfire.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_oven

    Garry Denke

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    Doug Weller Guest

    Default Re: Stonehenge Luau

    On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:10:27 -1000, in rec.food.cooking,
    [email protected] wrote:

    >On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:58:56 -0700 (PDT), GDenke <[email protected]>
    >wrote:
    >
    >>The Aubrey Holes '56 Pig Fats Residue
    >>
    >>Residue hog fats are preserved at archaeological Stonehenge Luau in
    >>association with the '56 Aubrey Holes (pig roast - Mumu, Kalua, Imu -
    >>hole pits), below their human cremations and animal remains. High-
    >>temperature gas chromatography (HT-GC) and combined HT-GC/mass
    >>spectrometry (HT-GC/MS) has confirmed the presence of Mumu, Kalua, Imu
    >>residue hog fats in lipid extracts from Doctor Garry Denke (1622-1699,
    >>historian, antiquarian, dentist) '56 Aubrey Holes' hollowstem auger
    >>core drill samples.
    >>
    >>The origins of Stonehenge Luau preserved residue pig fats were
    >>determined through detailed compositional analysis of their component
    >>fatty acids by GC, by GC/MS of dimethyl disulfide derivatives of
    >>monoenoic components, and by GC-combustion-isotope ratio-MS (GC-C-
    >>IRMS), which derived diagenetically robust 13C values. Regiospecific
    >>analysis of intact triacylglycerols by high-performance liquid
    >>chromatography/MS (HPLC/MS) established the origin of Stonehenge Luau
    >>hog fats; Durrington Walls.
    >>
    >>Anyone else have Residue Pig Fats in their '56 Aubrey Holes core
    >>samples?
    >>
    >>http://arheologija.ff.uni-lj.si/docu...29evershed.pdf
    >>Indiana University of Pennsylvania Organic Geochemistry
    >>Arizona State University Biogeochemistry Research
    >>
    >>[email protected]

    >
    >Wow, thanks for posting all that. My skepticism lies in the use of
    >the following words: <mumu>(in Hawaiian it means to "rinse out the
    >mouth", <kalua> (in Hawaiian it means "to bake in a ground oven; to
    >burn brick or lime;baked", <imu> (in Hawaiian "ground oven").
    >
    >Or is like the <wiki> in wikipedia which in Hawaiian means" fast" and
    >like a few otehrs like <lei> and <lanai>, real Hawaiian words that
    >have made into general usage.
    >
    >just interesting.
    >
    >I've been to Stonehenge and was awed by it and at the same time, I
    >thought it would be so much grander, because of its reputation. Silly
    >me. But we did get to even touch the stones then.


    You are right to be skeptical. Denke even claims to own Stonehenge, posts
    as Yahweh, Stonehenge as a football stadium, a claim that I can't recall
    but is either that I am actually him or the other way around, etc.

    Doug
    --
    Doug Weller --
    A Director and Moderator of The Hall of Ma'at http://www.hallofmaat.com
    Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk
    Amun - co-owner/co-moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Amun/


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    GDenke Guest

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    GDenke said...

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    We used to vacation in Hawaii twice a year. I caused the Kilauea volcano by
    taking sand off the black sand beach on the big island in 1983. I've been
    meaning to return it.

    Luau's are the most fun feast on earth!

    "Oh give me poi, lots of poi, under starry skies above, don't fence me in."
    --Andy, ripped off of Cole Porter & Robert Fletcher

    I'd join you all but I'm afraid to go all by myself!

    Aloha,

    Andy
    Humpback Whale Fan


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