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  1. #1
    Takin & Kanoknuan Guest

    Default Steve 'Kombat' Kramer - Ex-Pat Extraordinaire (another Klassic)



    http://www.retireearlylifestyle.com/steve_kramer.htm

    Ex-Pat Extraordinaire

    Billy & Akaisha Kaderli


    World travel offers the opportunity to meet other roamers from around the
    globe. On Wednesdays here in Chiang Mai, Thailand, there is a standing
    invitation for a small group of us Ex-pats to meet for lunch at a local
    restaurant. It's an international group so topics of conversation run the
    gamut. Several years ago we met Steve Kramer, a very successful retiree, who
    turned his hobby/passion of photography into a business. Well traveled,
    well read and now a locally famous photography instructor, we figured his
    approach to living in foreign countries was worth passing on to our readers.
    So please enjoy this short visit with a very witty, multi-talented friend!
    All of the photos in this piece are of Steve's work, and we felt they, too,
    needed to be showcased.

    Thanks, Steve, for taking the time to answer these questions for us. How
    long have you lived outside of the US?

    #17 years. This time. I've lived in Europe, Japan, Mexico, etc, with the
    longest time (so far) spent in Japan. Thailand looks as if it may take the
    lead.

    Being an ex-medic in the US Military what is your opinion of the healthcare
    here in Thailand?

    #Thai medical care is on par with the best available anywhere in the world.
    I wouldn't hesitate to have ANY medical procedure done here if needed.
    Obviously, just as in other countries, the level of quality varies from
    facility to facility, so it's necessary to do a bit of homework before you
    choose yours, just as it's necessarily to go to the correct facility for the
    particular procedure. For instance, they don't do good breast implants in a
    neurological hospital.

    How do you deal with healthcare?

    #Thoughtfully. I prefer an eclectic assortment of practitioners. If my
    problem can be best dealt with using modern medicine, I use a western style
    doctor and western medicines. But many health care needs can be better
    served with more traditional Chinese acupuncture or herbal medicines,
    perhaps Indian Auyurvedic medical treatments will be more effective for
    other problems. Those folks have been at it for a lot longer than our
    western medicine, and it's a shame to pass up the opportunity to make use of
    it when needed. If your only tool is a hammer, you try to treat every
    problem with a nail. Obviously that doesn't work as well as a fully stocked
    toolbox.

    Do you ever visit the US?

    #Sure. I've been back at least four times in the past 17 years. And as they
    quickly erode more and more of our Constitutional rights, I might go back
    once more. Maybe.

    What brought you to Asia the first time?

    #It was a combination of things. Of course, a desire for adventure! Then a
    desire to understand other cultures. Plus it was a desire to learn new and
    different life styles. But most importantly, it was a ridiculously high
    paying job as a university professor in Japan.

    What's the biggest hardship of living in Asia?

    #Understanding the Asian thought process, and realizing that the western way
    is not necessarily best. It is so foreign to me as an American, that even
    today I have difficulty trying to figure out why certain things are done the
    way they are. My first instinct is to say 'Hey! That's not how to do it!'
    Then I realize that they have been doing it that way for the past 5,000
    years and it works for them!

    If someone wanted to retire here in Thailand what would be your advice?

    #First, the real key is flexibility. You must be able to cope with
    absolutely anything at any time, no matter how stressful or disappointing it
    may be. You can't always get a Big Mac and have it your way. Next, be sure
    of your finances. Then decide if it's big city living, small town
    communities, beach resorts or mountain forests that make you more
    comfortable, and pick a place. Plan to 'live' there for one year. That's
    all. One year. Not as a tourist. Rent a home and deal with the day-to-day
    challenges that we all face. Getting a telephone, water delivery,
    Immigration, medical care, foods, friends, etc. See what life is like for
    someone living here. It's very, very different from the tourist view.
    Remember this; you aren't stapled into place. You can always change your
    mind if you don't care for it. But if you do enjoy your year, just stay
    where you are and enjoy!

    What brought you from Japan to Thailand?

    #Thai Airways? During my years in Japan I was fortunate enough to be able to
    travel the world for several months a year. We found many lovely places
    during this period, but always found ourselves spending at least a month or
    two in Thailand. When it was time to retire from university, we had several
    choices in mind. We happened to try Thailand first. (For that 'one year'
    experiment.) We never left!

    Do you ever yearn to move back to the US?

    #I do miss certain things about the US. I miss .... I miss.... err.... I
    miss.... No... I guess I don't.

    Wait... I miss "Jimmy Dean Pork Breakfast Sausage!" (Jones Brown 'n Serve
    just aren't as good!) Krispy Kream Donuts? Virtually everything else is
    already here, even Ben & Jerry's ice cream. We could use an "Outback" or
    "Lone Star" steak house, but we settle for Sizzler.

    #How do you stay busy here in Thailand?

    My God!! The real question is; how do I find the time to do all the things
    available here that interest me! Every sport, every hobby, every diversion
    from needle point to championship golf courses. Rock climbing, river
    rafting, elephant riding, sight seeing, studying anything from Thai cooking,
    massage, martial arts, language arts. Everything you enjoy doing in the US
    you can find here in Thailand. However, be advised that the ski season is
    very, very short. Last year it was on a Thursday. If TV is your pleasure, we
    get about 50 English language channels, same as you'd get in NYC. Of course
    there are also plenty of stations broadcasting in Spanish, Chinese, French,
    German, and of course, Thai.

    #Is it easy for Ex-pats to find work in Thailand?

    Yes, and no. We are not permitted to work without having the proper visa and
    work permit. You can easily start your own business, as I did, which will
    give you the proper documents, or work for a school teaching languages.
    Please do understand though that working in Thailand doesn't pay the way
    working in the US does, so don't plan on getting rich here. Unless your work
    is something you truly love, and you don't wish to spend your retirement in
    a rocking chair, you're best off starting your own business that deals with
    the outside world for the financial rewards. My photography business is
    divided into three parts; one part dealing with the tourists coming to
    Thailand and teaching them how to use their cameras, one part shooting
    commercial photography for hotels and tour agency brochures, and the other
    part as freelance photojournalist shooting and writing for magazines. This
    is how I keep out of the rocking chair. I won't get rich, but I sure do have
    fun!

    #Do you rent or own your residence? Why?

    There are certain laws dealing with foreigners owning property here in the
    Land of Smiles. Unfortunately these laws change with the winds. Right now,
    it is illegal for a foreigner to own 'land' here, but if we obtain a 30 year
    lease we can build and own our own homes on the land. We are permitted to
    own condominiums provided the condo building is 51% Thai owned. Personally,
    we chose to rent our condo. We like the freedom that this gives us. Rent is
    cheap, and value is good. Should we wish to live in a bigger or smaller
    place, all we have to do is move.

    #What got you interested in photography?

    Don't tell anyone, but it was a very kinky girlfriend that I had when I was
    23..... Unfortunately, 'kink' could only hold my interest just so long, and
    I began to realize that this was a new way to see the world around me. As
    Proust says; "The voyage of discovery is not traveling to new lands; it's
    seeing with new eyes." But.... add those new eyes to new lands and every
    time I turn around I experience another 'Kodak Moment." You can too... In
    Thailand

    #If you travel to Chiang Mai, Thailand, be sure to take advantage of Steve's
    photography courses. You can see more of his work on his website,
    PhotoEnvisions. He features Professional Freelance Photography, freelance
    photography covering travel, photojournalism, nature, people, culture,
    gardens, flowers, etc., from SE Asia, Asia, Europe, Thailand, Travel,
    Micronesia, Japan, and the European Alps. Photographs for magazines,
    calendar, greeting cards, and gifts. People From All Over the Globe



    **There we have it. Steve 'Kombat' Kramer - "award winning" photographer,
    newsgroup personality, Man of Adventure, Kung-Fu master, expert swordsman,
    expert deep sea diver, expert cook, ex-volunteer Tourist Police Konstable,
    ex-smoker, Martial Arts expert, Fencing Master, bull**** artiste, successful
    jungle safari photography tour operator, decorated Vietnam War veteran, and
    undercover agent for the FBI, Scotland Yard, The Thai police, The Australian
    Federal police, the New Zealand police and Interpol. And Ex-Pat
    Extraordinaire. )




  2. #2
    rod Guest

    Default Re: Steve 'Kombat' Kramer - Ex-Pat Extraordinaire (another Klassic)

    On Jan 12, 5:00*pm, "Takin & Kanoknuan" <takin&kanokn...@stuck-in-a-
    wheelchair.org> wrote:
    > http://www.retireearlylifestyle.com/steve_kramer.htm
    >
    > Ex-Pat Extraordinaire
    >
    > Billy & Akaisha Kaderli
    >
    > World travel offers the opportunity to meet other roamers from around the
    > globe. On Wednesdays here in Chiang Mai, Thailand, there is a standing
    > invitation for a small group of us Ex-pats to meet for lunch at a local
    > restaurant. It's an international group so topics of conversation run the
    > gamut. Several years ago we met Steve Kramer, a very successful retiree, who
    > turned his hobby/passion of photography into a business. *Well traveled,
    > well read and now a locally famous photography instructor, we figured his
    > approach to living in foreign countries was worth passing on to our readers.
    > So please enjoy this short visit with a very witty, multi-talented friend!
    > All of the photos in this piece are of Steve's work, and we felt they, too,
    > needed to be showcased.
    >
    > Thanks, Steve, for taking the time to answer these questions for us. How
    > long have you lived outside of the US?
    >
    > #17 years. This time. I've lived in Europe, Japan, Mexico, etc, with the
    > longest time (so far) spent in Japan. Thailand looks as if it may take the
    > lead.
    >
    > Being an ex-medic in the US Military what is your opinion of the healthcare
    > here in Thailand?
    >
    > #Thai medical care is on par with the best available anywhere in the world.
    > I wouldn't hesitate to have ANY medical procedure done here if needed.
    > Obviously, just as in other countries, the level of quality varies from
    > facility to facility, so it's necessary to do a bit of homework before you
    > choose yours, just as it's necessarily to go to the correct facility for the
    > particular procedure. For instance, they don't do good breast implants ina
    > neurological hospital.
    >
    > How do you deal with healthcare?
    >
    > #Thoughtfully. I prefer an eclectic assortment of practitioners. If my
    > problem can be best dealt with using modern medicine, I use a western style
    > doctor and western medicines. But many health care needs can be better
    > served with more traditional Chinese acupuncture or herbal medicines,
    > perhaps Indian Auyurvedic medical treatments will be more effective for
    > other problems. Those folks have been at it for a lot longer than our
    > western medicine, and it's a shame to pass up the opportunity to make useof
    > it when needed. If your only tool is a hammer, you try to treat every
    > problem with a nail. Obviously that doesn't work as well as a fully stocked
    > toolbox.
    >
    > Do you ever visit the US?
    >
    > #Sure. I've been back at least four times in the past 17 years. And as they
    > quickly erode more and more of our Constitutional rights, I might go back
    > once more. Maybe.
    >
    > What brought you to Asia the first time?
    >
    > #It was a combination of things. Of course, a desire for adventure! Then a
    > desire to understand other cultures. Plus it was a desire to learn new and
    > different life styles. But most importantly, it was a ridiculously high
    > paying job as a university professor in Japan.
    >
    > What's the biggest hardship of living in Asia?
    >
    > #Understanding the Asian thought process, and realizing that the western way
    > is not necessarily best. It is so foreign to me as an American, that even
    > today I have difficulty trying to figure out why certain things are done the
    > way they are. My first instinct is to say 'Hey! That's not how to do it!'
    > Then I realize that they have been doing it that way for the past 5,000
    > years and it works for them!
    >
    > If someone wanted to retire here in Thailand what would be your advice?
    >
    > #First, the real key is flexibility. You must be able to cope with
    > absolutely anything at any time, no matter how stressful or disappointingit
    > may be. You can't always get a Big Mac and have it your way. Next, be sure
    > of your finances. Then decide if it's big city living, small town
    > communities, beach resorts or mountain forests that make you more
    > comfortable, and pick a place. Plan to 'live' there for one year. That's
    > all. One year. Not as a tourist. Rent a home and deal with the day-to-day
    > challenges that we all face. Getting a telephone, water delivery,
    > Immigration, medical care, foods, friends, etc. See what life is like for
    > someone living here. It's very, very different from the tourist view.
    > Remember this; you aren't stapled into place. You can always change your
    > mind if you don't care for it. But if you do enjoy your year, just stay
    > where you are and enjoy!
    >
    > What brought you from Japan to Thailand?
    >
    > #Thai Airways? During my years in Japan I was fortunate enough to be ableto
    > travel the world for several months a year. We found many lovely places
    > during this period, but always found ourselves spending at least a month or
    > two in Thailand. When it was time to retire from university, we had several
    > choices in mind. We happened to try Thailand first. (For that 'one year'
    > experiment.) We never left!
    >
    > Do you ever yearn to move back to the US?
    >
    > #I do miss certain things about the US. I miss .... I miss.... err.... I
    > miss.... No... I guess I don't.
    >
    > Wait... I miss "Jimmy Dean Pork Breakfast Sausage!" (Jones Brown 'n Serve
    > just aren't as good!) Krispy Kream Donuts? Virtually everything else is
    > already here, even Ben & Jerry's ice cream. We could use an "Outback" or
    > "Lone Star" steak house, but we settle for Sizzler.
    >
    > #How do you stay busy here in Thailand?
    >
    > My God!! The real question is; how do I find the time to do all the things
    > available here that interest me! Every sport, every hobby, every diversion
    > from needle point to championship golf courses. Rock climbing, river
    > rafting, elephant riding, sight seeing, studying anything from Thai cooking,
    > massage, martial arts, language arts. Everything you enjoy doing in the US
    > you can find here in Thailand. However, be advised that the ski season is
    > very, very short. Last year it was on a Thursday. If TV is your pleasure,we
    > get about 50 English language channels, same as you'd get in NYC. Of course
    > there are also plenty of stations broadcasting in Spanish, Chinese, French,
    > German, and of course, Thai.
    >
    > #Is it easy for Ex-pats to find work in Thailand?
    >
    > Yes, and no. We are not permitted to work without having the proper visa and
    > work permit. You can easily start your own business, as I did, which will
    > give you the proper documents, or work for a school teaching languages.
    > Please do understand though that working in Thailand doesn't pay the way
    > working in the US does, so don't plan on getting rich here. Unless your work
    > is something you truly love, and you don't wish to spend your retirement in
    > a rocking chair, you're best off starting your own business that deals with
    > the outside world for the financial rewards. My photography business is
    > divided into three parts; one part dealing with the tourists coming to
    > Thailand and teaching them how to use their cameras, one part shooting
    > commercial photography for hotels and tour agency brochures, and the other
    > part as freelance photojournalist shooting and writing for magazines. This
    > is how I keep out of the rocking chair. I won't get rich, but I sure do have
    > fun!
    >
    > #Do you rent or own your residence? Why?
    >
    > There are certain laws dealing with foreigners owning property here in the
    > Land of Smiles. Unfortunately these laws change with the winds. Right now,
    > it is illegal for a foreigner to own 'land' here, but if we obtain a 30 year
    > lease we can build and own our own homes on the land. We are permitted to
    > own condominiums provided the condo building is 51% Thai owned. Personally,
    > we chose to rent our condo. We like the freedom that this gives us. Rent is
    > cheap, and value is good. Should we wish to live in a bigger or smaller
    > place, all we have to do is move.
    >
    > #What got you interested in photography?
    >
    > Don't tell anyone, but it was a very kinky girlfriend that I had when I was
    > 23..... Unfortunately, 'kink' could only hold my interest just so long, and
    > I began to realize that this was a new way to see the world around me. As
    > Proust says; "The voyage of discovery is not traveling to new lands; it's
    > seeing with new eyes." But.... add those new eyes to new lands and every
    > time I turn around I experience another 'Kodak Moment." You can too... In
    > Thailand
    >
    > #If you travel to Chiang Mai, Thailand, be sure to take advantage of Steve's
    > photography courses. You can see more of his *work on his website,
    > PhotoEnvisions. He features Professional Freelance Photography, freelance
    > photography covering travel, photojournalism, nature, people, culture,
    > gardens, flowers, etc., from SE Asia, Asia, Europe, Thailand, Travel,
    > Micronesia, Japan, and the European Alps. Photographs for magazines,
    > calendar, greeting cards, and gifts. People From All Over the Globe
    >
    > **There we have it. Steve 'Kombat' Kramer - "award winning" photographer,
    > newsgroup personality, Man of Adventure, Kung-Fu master, expert swordsman,
    > expert deep sea diver, expert cook, ex-volunteer Tourist Police Konstable,
    > ex-smoker, Martial Arts expert, Fencing Master, bull**** artiste, successful
    > jungle safari photography tour operator, decorated Vietnam War veteran, and
    > undercover agent for the FBI, Scotland Yard, The Thai police, The Australian
    > Federal police, the New Zealand police and Interpol. And Ex-Pat
    > Extraordinaire. * )


    ***the Kraven wrote...

    "...and we live at the last RailRoad stop in N.CM...beyond that lie
    Dragons..."

    HeartofDragons aka Kraven
    (Tried to pass off the "FartofDragons" as "Kadek" in Rec dot Knives)

  3. #3
    Chemo the Clown Guest

    Default Re: Steve 'Kombat' Kramer - Ex-Pat Extraordinaire (another Klassic)

    On Jan 12, 5:00*pm, "Takin & Kanoknuan" <takin&kanokn...@stuck-in-a-
    wheelchair.org> wrote:

    Yeah but...can you make a decent sloppy joe???


  4. #4
    sf Guest

    Default Re: Steve 'Kombat' Kramer - Ex-Pat Extraordinaire (another Klassic)

    On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 14:37:19 -0800 (PST), rod
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attention all Kombat Kramer haters. The topic is DEAD. Hear me?
    DEAD. Get a life.

    --
    I love cooking with wine.
    Sometimes I even put it in the food.

  5. #5
    LarbGai Guest

    Default Re: Steve 'Kombat' Kramer - Ex-Pat Extraordinaire (another Klassic)

    On Jan 17, 6:37*pm, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:

    > Attention all Kombat Kramer haters. *The topic is DEAD. *Hear me?
    > DEAD. *Get a life.



    ****** NOBODY hates Kombat. We just love to laugh at him and his
    antics.

    Are you a policeman?????

    ;-)

  6. #6
    sf Guest

    Default Re: Steve 'Kombat' Kramer - Ex-Pat Extraordinaire (another Klassic)

    On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 01:48:21 -0800 (PST), LarbGai <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >On Jan 17, 6:37*pm, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
    >
    >> Attention all Kombat Kramer haters. *The topic is DEAD. *Hear me?
    >> DEAD. *Get a life.

    >
    >
    >****** NOBODY hates Kombat. We just love to laugh at him and his
    >antics.
    >
    >Are you a policeman?????
    >
    >;-)


    FYI: everyone is laughing at you.

    --
    I love cooking with wine.
    Sometimes I even put it in the food.

  7. #7
    Krypsis Guest

    Default Re: Steve 'Kombat' Kramer - Ex-Pat Extraordinaire (another Klassic)

    sf wrote:
    > On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 01:48:21 -0800 (PST), LarbGai <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> On Jan 17, 6:37 pm, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Attention all Kombat Kramer haters. The topic is DEAD. Hear me?
    >>> DEAD. Get a life.

    >>
    >> ****** NOBODY hates Kombat. We just love to laugh at him and his
    >> antics.
    >>
    >> Are you a policeman?????
    >>
    >> ;-)

    >
    > FYI: everyone is laughing at you.
    >

    Only you people who don't have him killfiled. The rest of us don't need
    to laugh at these clowns quite that much!

    Do us all a favour and add this clown to your killfilter.

    Krypsis


  8. #8
    Takin & Kanoknuan Guest

    Default Re: Steve 'Kombat' Kramer - Ex-Pat Extraordinaire (another Klassic)



    "sf" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:
    > On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 01:48:21 -0800 (PST), LarbGai <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>On Jan 17, 6:37 pm, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Attention all Kombat Kramer haters. The topic is DEAD. Hear me?
    >>> DEAD. Get a life.

    >>
    >>
    >>****** NOBODY hates Kombat. We just love to laugh at him and his
    >>antics.
    >>
    >>Are you a policeman?????
    >>
    >>;-)

    >
    > FYI: everyone is laughing at you.



    **FYI: I'm laughing at Kombat Kramer. And I'm laughing at you. *grin*




    >
    > --
    > I love cooking with wine.
    > Sometimes I even put it in the food.


  9. #9
    Takin & Kanoknuan Guest

    Default Re: Steve 'Kombat' Kramer - Ex-Pat Extraordinaire (another Klassic)



    "Chemo the Clown" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:
    > On Jan 12, 5:00 pm, "Takin & Kanoknuan" <takin&kanokn...@stuck-in-a-
    > wheelchair.org> wrote:
    >
    > Yeah but...can you make a decent sloppy joe???
    >



    **I can make an indecent one. :-)

  10. #10
    Takin & Kanoknuan Guest

    Default Re: Steve 'Kombat' Kramer - Ex-Pat Extraordinaire (another Klassic)



    "Krypsis" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:
    > sf wrote:
    >> On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 01:48:21 -0800 (PST), LarbGai <[email protected]>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Jan 17, 6:37 pm, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Attention all Kombat Kramer haters. The topic is DEAD. Hear me?
    >>>> DEAD. Get a life.
    >>>
    >>> ****** NOBODY hates Kombat. We just love to laugh at him and his
    >>> antics.
    >>>
    >>> Are you a policeman?????
    >>>
    >>> ;-)

    >>
    >> FYI: everyone is laughing at you.
    >>

    > Only you people who don't have him killfiled. The rest of us don't need
    > to laugh at these clowns quite that much!



    **But you DO need to keep poking your snout in, right??? LOL!!! :-)


    >
    > Do us all a favour and add this clown to your killfilter.
    >
    > Krypsis
    >


  11. #11
    sf Guest

    Default Re: Steve 'Kombat' Kramer - Ex-Pat Extraordinaire (another Klassic)

    On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 14:53:14 -0000, "Takin & Kanoknuan"
    <takin&[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >
    >"sf" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:
    >> On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 01:48:21 -0800 (PST), LarbGai <[email protected]>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>On Jan 17, 6:37 pm, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Attention all Kombat Kramer haters. The topic is DEAD. Hear me?
    >>>> DEAD. Get a life.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>****** NOBODY hates Kombat. We just love to laugh at him and his
    >>>antics.
    >>>
    >>>Are you a policeman?????
    >>>
    >>>;-)

    >>
    >> FYI: everyone is laughing at you.

    >
    >
    >**FYI: I'm laughing at Kombat Kramer. And I'm laughing at you. *grin*
    >
    >

    What a pathetic old man.


    --
    I love cooking with wine.
    Sometimes I even put it in the food.

  12. #12
    LarbGai Guest

    Default Re: Steve 'Kombat' Kramer - Ex-Pat Extraordinaire (another Klassic)

    On Jan 18, 1:19*am, Krypsis <kryp...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

    > Only you people who don't have him killfiled. The rest of us don't need
    > to laugh at these clowns quite that much!
    >
    > Do us all a favour and add this clown to your killfilter.
    >
    > Krypsis-


    ****** Oh dear. Without us you would have no purpose in life would you
    Krypto???

    It is part of our mission to help poor sad old fools like you to get
    some recognition.

    Looks like it worked again, you poked your snout in.

    Our pleasure. ;-)

  13. #13
    rod Guest

    Default Re: Steve 'Kombat' Kramer - Ex-Pat Extraordinaire (another Klassic)

    On Jan 17, 12:15*pm, LarbGai <larb...@lycos.com> wrote:
    > On Jan 18, 1:19*am, Krypsis <kryp...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
    >
    > > Only you people who don't have him killfiled. The rest of us don't need
    > > to laugh at these clowns quite that much!

    >
    > > Do us all a favour and add this clown to your killfilter.

    >
    > > Krypsis-

    >
    > ****** Oh dear. Without us you would have no purpose in life would you
    > Krypto???
    >
    > It is part of our mission to help poor sad old fools like you to get
    > some recognition.
    >
    > Looks like it worked again, you poked your snout in.
    >
    > Our pleasure. *;-)


    ***T'was the night before Christmas
    As I sat on my "throne"
    I was "pinching" a Krypto
    Just me all alone
    When he blew out my bowels
    With such a big splatter
    I jumped off the crapper to see "What's the matter"
    Was big and so brown
    And Oh, did it reak
    Reminded me much
    Of our SCT freak!

    Krap-Tow, are you related to the Kraven?
    So much alike :-)

    Rockin' Rod Shaftenauer
    Yeeeeeeee Hawwwwww

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