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Thread: Soy milk and estrogen.

  1. #1
    Mikie Guest

    Default Soy milk and estrogen.

    So goes the rumor. No matter what's written on the carton, the Soy
    Bean industry some time ago dicredited that claim..."...there is no
    evidence whatsoever to prove such a claim"

    And who makes those claims??? The Dairy Council???? No.. really? Do
    you wonder?

    Remember what the vegetable oil inustry did to the coconut oli
    industry about 10 years ago....they even took it out of popcorn in the
    theaters, without finding the truth first. Today, they find that
    coconut oil for cooking and frying has the lauric acid that is a
    fabulous supplement, And plain coconut oil beats all for facials and
    removal of wrinkles. And there is no evidence that it is any worse
    than any other oil ....and perhaps BETTER.

    I use it for stir fry for years now , ( I never deep fry,) I use
    First Cold Press Olive OIl for salads because I find coconut oil a
    little rich in taste. I also bread fish and other foods in coconut
    flour. Yummy.

    So I warn you...don't jump at anything you hear or read about certain
    foods...it will probably be a campaign against a specific food by a
    competitor. Do the research first. And when was the last time you
    trusted the FDA!

    Remember how BAD coffee was for us? What happened....the tea got
    wealthier. I wonder. Now, coffee isn't so bad in moderation.


  2. #2
    sf Guest

    Default Re: Soy milk and estrogen.

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 09:06:45 -0700 (PDT), Mikie <[email protected]> wrote:

    >So goes the rumor. No matter what's written on the carton, the Soy
    >Bean industry some time ago dicredited that claim..."...there is no
    >evidence whatsoever to prove such a claim"
    >
    >And who makes those claims??? The Dairy Council???? No.. really? Do
    >you wonder?
    >
    >Remember what the vegetable oil inustry did to the coconut oli
    >industry about 10 years ago....they even took it out of popcorn in the
    >theaters, without finding the truth first. Today, they find that
    >coconut oil for cooking and frying has the lauric acid that is a
    >fabulous supplement, And plain coconut oil beats all for facials and
    >removal of wrinkles. And there is no evidence that it is any worse
    >than any other oil ....and perhaps BETTER.
    >
    >I use it for stir fry for years now , ( I never deep fry,) I use
    >First Cold Press Olive OIl for salads because I find coconut oil a
    >little rich in taste. I also bread fish and other foods in coconut
    >flour. Yummy.
    >
    >So I warn you...don't jump at anything you hear or read about certain
    >foods...it will probably be a campaign against a specific food by a
    >competitor. Do the research first. And when was the last time you
    >trusted the FDA!
    >
    >Remember how BAD coffee was for us? What happened....the tea got
    >wealthier. I wonder. Now, coffee isn't so bad in moderation.


    You left out eggs. Haven't you heard they're out of jail now?


    --
    I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

    Mae West

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    cybercat Guest

    Default Re: Soy milk and estrogen.


    "Mikie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > So goes the rumor. No matter what's written on the carton, the Soy
    > Bean industry some time ago dicredited that claim..."...there is no
    > evidence whatsoever to prove such a claim"
    >


    What claims?



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    cybercat Guest

    Default Re: Soy milk and estrogen.


    "Mikie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > So goes the rumor. No matter what's written on the carton, the Soy
    > Bean industry some time ago dicredited that claim..."...there is no
    > evidence whatsoever to prove such a claim"
    >
    > And who makes those claims??? The Dairy Council???? No.. really? Do
    > you wonder?


    There is a great deal of clinical evidence that plant estrogens act just
    like animal estrogens. Soy is full of estrogens. Estrogens DO make certain
    cancers, particularly breast cancer, GROW.

    Feel free to dispute the statements above one at a time. Until you do, I
    will be nervous about soy and other allegedly healthy foods containing
    estrogens.



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    cybercat Guest

    Default Re: Soy milk and estrogen.


    <sf> wrote
    > You left out eggs. Haven't you heard they're out of jail now?
    >

    I never stopped eating them. To the tune of a dozen a week or more. I figure
    that's probably why I'm so damned good looking.

    <teeth>

    My cholesterol has always been great, the bad low and the good high.



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    Steve Pope Guest

    Default Re: Soy milk and estrogen.

    cybercat <[email protected]> wrote:

    >There is a great deal of clinical evidence that plant estrogens act just
    >like animal estrogens. Soy is full of estrogens. Estrogens DO make certain
    >cancers, particularly breast cancer, GROW.


    Yes, I just learned of this fact. I recently made my
    previously-mentioned tofu-containing potato salad and took it to a
    potluck type event. Everyone liked the potato salad, but I was
    later told I should have warned people that it had tofu in it.

    (What exactly did they think those little cubes were, if not tofu??
    They seemed to have no problem eating it.)

    Anyway, I don't come from a background where soy is considered
    poisonous, so the idea of a soy warning is not something I'm
    used to.

    Steve

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    Sqwertz Guest

    Default Re: Soy milk and estrogen.

    Steve Pope <[email protected]> wrote:

    > cybercat <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>There is a great deal of clinical evidence that plant estrogens act just
    >>like animal estrogens. Soy is full of estrogens. Estrogens DO make certain
    >>cancers, particularly breast cancer, GROW.

    >
    > Yes, I just learned of this fact. I recently made my
    > previously-mentioned tofu-containing potato salad and took it to a
    > potluck type event. Everyone liked the potato salad, but I was
    > later told I should have warned people that it had tofu in it.
    >
    > (What exactly did they think those little cubes were, if not tofu??


    Uhh, potatoes would be my guess. How would I be able to tell all
    slathered in mayo?

    -sw

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    Steve Pope Guest

    Default Re: Soy milk and estrogen.

    Sqwertz <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Steve Pope <[email protected]> wrote:


    >> Yes, I just learned of this fact. I recently made my
    >> previously-mentioned tofu-containing potato salad and took it to a
    >> potluck type event. Everyone liked the potato salad, but I was
    >> later told I should have warned people that it had tofu in it.


    >> (What exactly did they think those little cubes were, if not tofu??


    >Uhh, potatoes would be my guess. How would I be able to tell all
    >slathered in mayo?


    I don't "slather" potato salad in mayo. I do include about
    3T of mayo in a potato salad that has 2 lbs of potatos, 2 hard boiled
    eggs and 4 ounces of tofu.

    Steve

  9. #9
    blake murphy Guest

    Default Re: Soy milk and estrogen.

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:30:45 -0400, cybercat wrote:

    > "Mikie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    >> So goes the rumor. No matter what's written on the carton, the Soy
    >> Bean industry some time ago dicredited that claim..."...there is no
    >> evidence whatsoever to prove such a claim"
    >>
    >> And who makes those claims??? The Dairy Council???? No.. really? Do
    >> you wonder?

    >
    > There is a great deal of clinical evidence that plant estrogens act just
    > like animal estrogens. Soy is full of estrogens. Estrogens DO make certain
    > cancers, particularly breast cancer, GROW.
    >
    > Feel free to dispute the statements above one at a time. Until you do, I
    > will be nervous about soy and other allegedly healthy foods containing
    > estrogens.


    i doubt you'll turn into a girly-man.

    your pal,
    blake

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