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    Andy Guest

    Default SOT: Ocean City, NJ still runs dry.

    SOT: Ocean City, NJ still runs dry.

    Ocean City, NJ is a dry (no alcohol sold or served) beach town, put
    B.Y.O.B. (Bring Your Own Booze) at restaurants to a vote yesterday. Prided
    for being a family oriented beach town, voted "stay dry" by a 2:1 margin.

    It's been dry for over a century.

    A quick trip over the bridge to the next town boasts "Super Liquor," a
    large liquor store. You can still drink in Ocean City, NJ, just not in
    public. Or you can leave town and hang out in bars elsewhere.

    We've vacationed there a couple times and were all in favor of it. And we
    have clearer memories as a result.

    Andy

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    Gary Guest

    Default Re: SOT: Ocean City, NJ still runs dry.

    Andy wrote:
    >
    > SOT: Ocean City, NJ still runs dry.
    >
    > Ocean City, NJ is a dry (no alcohol sold or served) beach town, put
    > B.Y.O.B. (Bring Your Own Booze) at restaurants to a vote yesterday. Prided
    > for being a family oriented beach town, voted "stay dry" by a 2:1 margin.
    >
    > It's been dry for over a century.


    What? Isn't Ocean City, NJ the next gambling town after Las Vegas? No
    liquor there?k WTH?

    that's like Virginia Beach here. They want to think they are a family
    oriented town but that's such a joke. It's a party town.

    Gary

  3. #3
    Andy Guest

    Default Re: SOT: Ocean City, NJ still runs dry.

    Gary <[email protected]> wrote:

    > What? Isn't Ocean City, NJ the next gambling town after Las Vegas? No
    > liquor there?k WTH?
    >
    > that's like Virginia Beach here. They want to think they are a family
    > oriented town but that's such a joke. It's a party town.
    >
    > Gary



    Gary,

    Atlantic City about 10 miles to the north on the coastline is well
    established gambling. Ocean City, were it to happen would be "vacation
    disaster." The city, except for the boardwalk properties are million
    dollar private properties. Same as yours! NOT FOR SALE!

    I remember well, my visit to your town, just as you describe!

    Andy

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    Nancy Young Guest

    Default Re: SOT: Ocean City, NJ still runs dry.

    On 5/9/2012 3:03 PM, Gary wrote:
    > Andy wrote:
    >>
    >> SOT: Ocean City, NJ still runs dry.
    >>
    >> Ocean City, NJ is a dry (no alcohol sold or served) beach town, put
    >> B.Y.O.B. (Bring Your Own Booze) at restaurants to a vote yesterday. Prided
    >> for being a family oriented beach town, voted "stay dry" by a 2:1 margin.
    >>
    >> It's been dry for over a century.

    >
    > What? Isn't Ocean City, NJ the next gambling town after Las Vegas? No
    > liquor there?k WTH?


    That would be Atlantic City.

    nancy

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    Ed Pawlowski Guest

    Default Re: SOT: Ocean City, NJ still runs dry.

    On Wed, 09 May 2012 11:22:28 -0500, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:

    >SOT: Ocean City, NJ still runs dry.
    >
    >Ocean City, NJ is a dry (no alcohol sold or served) beach town, put
    >B.Y.O.B. (Bring Your Own Booze) at restaurants to a vote yesterday. Prided
    >for being a family oriented beach town, voted "stay dry" by a 2:1 margin.
    >
    >It's been dry for over a century.


    The town was founded by a Methodist minister. Being dry has not
    really been a hindrance as a vacation spot though, it is packed in the
    summer. I often go there to visit my best friend who owns a couple of
    properties with well stocked beverages so sitting on the deck over the
    ocean you can sip a G&T.

    A bottle of wine with dinner out would be nice though.
    The bridge to the liquor stores sure get a lot of use!


    Nice to have generous friends there, given the cost of beachfront
    rentals.

  6. #6
    Andy Guest

    Default Re: SOT: Ocean City, NJ still runs dry.

    Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Wed, 09 May 2012 11:22:28 -0500, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>SOT: Ocean City, NJ still runs dry.
    >>
    >>Ocean City, NJ is a dry (no alcohol sold or served) beach town, put
    >>B.Y.O.B. (Bring Your Own Booze) at restaurants to a vote yesterday.
    >>Prided for being a family oriented beach town, voted "stay dry" by a
    >>2:1 margin.
    >>
    >>It's been dry for over a century.

    >
    > The town was founded by a Methodist minister. Being dry has not
    > really been a hindrance as a vacation spot though, it is packed in the
    > summer. I often go there to visit my best friend who owns a couple of
    > properties with well stocked beverages so sitting on the deck over the
    > ocean you can sip a G&T.
    >
    > A bottle of wine with dinner out would be nice though.
    > The bridge to the liquor stores sure get a lot of use!
    >
    >
    > Nice to have generous friends there, given the cost of beachfront
    > rentals.



    Ed,

    Here's Anne on the "Widow's Watch" on 47th Street.

    http://oi47.tinypic.com/29l1kq9.jpg

    It's the only view in town without housing obstruction from house to sea.

    We rented for $1,600/weekly.

    Andy

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    notbob Guest

    Default Re: SOT: Ocean City, NJ still runs dry.

    On 2012-05-09, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:

    >>It's been dry for over a century.


    For the same reason there are dry counties all over the US. Between
    the churches in the dry counties and the liquor stores in the adjacent
    wet counties, plain ol' boozers can never hope to match the campaign war
    chest of the antis.

    nb

    --
    vi --the heart of evil!
    Pitbull: "a gun you can pet" --Bill Burr

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    gregz Guest

    Default Re: Ocean City, NJ still runs dry.

    Andy <[email protected]> wrote:
    > SOT: Ocean City, NJ still runs dry.
    >
    > Ocean City, NJ is a dry (no alcohol sold or served) beach town, put
    > B.Y.O.B. (Bring Your Own Booze) at restaurants to a vote yesterday. Prided
    > for being a family oriented beach town, voted "stay dry" by a 2:1 margin.
    >
    > It's been dry for over a century.
    >
    > A quick trip over the bridge to the next town boasts "Super Liquor," a
    > large liquor store. You can still drink in Ocean City, NJ, just not in
    > public. Or you can leave town and hang out in bars elsewhere.
    >
    > We've vacationed there a couple times and were all in favor of it. And we
    > have clearer memories as a result.
    >
    > Andy


    Never been there. Been to wildwood and Atlantic city. Most people from
    Pittsburgh go to ocean city md, or va beach, or nags head. I still go to
    Ohios first resort, Geneva on the lake. Have been there 50 summers.

    Greg

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    Ed Pawlowski Guest

    Default Re: SOT: Ocean City, NJ still runs dry.

    On Wed, 09 May 2012 18:05:59 -0500, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:



    >
    >Ed,
    >
    >Here's Anne on the "Widow's Watch" on 47th Street.
    >
    >http://oi47.tinypic.com/29l1kq9.jpg
    >
    >It's the only view in town without housing obstruction from house to sea.
    >
    >We rented for $1,600/weekly.
    >
    >Andy


    Not bad. Hard to get that kind of view off the beach. My friend's
    place is right on the beach. I'm not sure what she gets in rent, used
    to be around $4000, but I've not kept up in recent years. More than I
    would spend, but free is good.

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    Sqwertz Guest

    Default Re: Ocean City, NJ still runs dry.

    On Thu, 10 May 2012 01:00:58 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:

    > Never been there. Been to wildwood and Atlantic city. Most people from
    > Pittsburgh go to ocean city md, or va beach, or nags head. I still go to
    > Ohios first resort, Geneva on the lake. Have been there 50 summers.


    Our retreat was Pymatuming/Conneaut when we were kids. We had a
    summer cottage rental up there, probably a time share of some sort - I
    forget the details.

    For shorter day trips it was McConnell's Mill, Moraine state park, or
    Cedar Park.

    All of which sell beer. I couldn't believe the price of beer at Giant
    Eagle when I was there. You can either buy a case at the beer
    distributors, or a lousy six pack at GE for half the price. Duh, I'll
    take the case for $25, Alex!

    -sw

  11. #11
    Janet Guest

    Default Re: SOT: Ocean City, NJ still runs dry.

    In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
    >
    > Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > On Wed, 09 May 2012 11:22:28 -0500, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >>SOT: Ocean City, NJ still runs dry.
    > >>
    > >>Ocean City, NJ is a dry (no alcohol sold or served) beach town, put
    > >>B.Y.O.B. (Bring Your Own Booze) at restaurants to a vote yesterday.
    > >>Prided for being a family oriented beach town, voted "stay dry" by a
    > >>2:1 margin.
    > >>
    > >>It's been dry for over a century.

    > >
    > > The town was founded by a Methodist minister. Being dry has not
    > > really been a hindrance as a vacation spot though, it is packed in the
    > > summer. I often go there to visit my best friend who owns a couple of
    > > properties with well stocked beverages so sitting on the deck over the
    > > ocean you can sip a G&T.
    > >
    > > A bottle of wine with dinner out would be nice though.
    > > The bridge to the liquor stores sure get a lot of use!
    > >
    > >
    > > Nice to have generous friends there, given the cost of beachfront
    > > rentals.

    >
    >
    > Ed,
    >
    > Here's Anne on the "Widow's Watch" on 47th Street.
    >
    > http://oi47.tinypic.com/29l1kq9.jpg
    >
    > It's the only view in town without housing obstruction from house to sea.
    >
    > We rented for $1,600/weekly.


    ? The waterfront properties must have unobstructed sea views, surely?

    Janet.

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    Ed Pawlowski Guest

    Default Re: SOT: Ocean City, NJ still runs dry.

    On Thu, 10 May 2012 10:03:47 +0100, Janet <[email protected]> wrote:



    >> Ed,
    >>
    >> Here's Anne on the "Widow's Watch" on 47th Street.
    >>
    >> http://oi47.tinypic.com/29l1kq9.jpg
    >>
    >> It's the only view in town without housing obstruction from house to sea.
    >>
    >> We rented for $1,600/weekly.

    >
    > ? The waterfront properties must have unobstructed sea views, surely?
    >
    > Janet.

    Yes, but once you get off that row, beach view is difficult to find.
    Most of the time you are peeking between the two houses in front of
    you. Even at that level, the cost of rentals is very high. Depending
    on the town, beachfront can be $5000 to $10,000 a week, beach views,
    about 75% of that.

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    Gary Guest

    Default Re: SOT: Ocean City, NJ still runs dry.

    Ed Pawlowski wrote:
    >
    > On Thu, 10 May 2012 10:03:47 +0100, Janet <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >> Ed,
    > >>
    > >> Here's Anne on the "Widow's Watch" on 47th Street.
    > >>
    > >> http://oi47.tinypic.com/29l1kq9.jpg
    > >>
    > >> It's the only view in town without housing obstruction from house to sea.
    > >>
    > >> We rented for $1,600/weekly.

    > >
    > > ? The waterfront properties must have unobstructed sea views, surely?
    > >
    > > Janet.

    > Yes, but once you get off that row, beach view is difficult to find.
    > Most of the time you are peeking between the two houses in front of
    > you. Even at that level, the cost of rentals is very high. Depending
    > on the town, beachfront can be $5000 to $10,000 a week, beach views,
    > about 75% of that.


    Try Sandbridge (in Va.Beach) Virginia next time for vacation rental. They
    are expensive but I don't think near that cost. Also going down into
    NagsHead, Duck areas of NC.

    All of the above mentioned features more "natural beaches" too.

    Gary

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    Brooklyn1 Guest

    Default Re: SOT: Ocean City, NJ still runs dry.

    On Thu, 10 May 2012 10:03:47 +0100, Janet <[email protected]> wrote:

    >In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
    >>
    >> Ed Pawlowski <esp@[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >> > On Wed, 09 May 2012 11:22:28 -0500, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> >
    >> >>SOT: Ocean City, NJ still runs dry.
    >> >>
    >> >>Ocean City, NJ is a dry (no alcohol sold or served) beach town, put
    >> >>B.Y.O.B. (Bring Your Own Booze) at restaurants to a vote yesterday.
    >> >>Prided for being a family oriented beach town, voted "stay dry" by a
    >> >>2:1 margin.
    >> >>
    >> >>It's been dry for over a century.
    >> >
    >> > The town was founded by a Methodist minister. Being dry has not
    >> > really been a hindrance as a vacation spot though, it is packed in the
    >> > summer. I often go there to visit my best friend who owns a couple of
    >> > properties with well stocked beverages so sitting on the deck over the
    >> > ocean you can sip a G&T.
    >> >
    >> > A bottle of wine with dinner out would be nice though.
    >> > The bridge to the liquor stores sure get a lot of use!
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > Nice to have generous friends there, given the cost of beachfront
    >> > rentals.

    >>
    >>
    >> Ed,
    >>
    >> Here's Anne on the "Widow's Watch" on 47th Street.
    >>
    >> http://oi47.tinypic.com/29l1kq9.jpg
    >>
    >> It's the only view in town without housing obstruction from house to sea.
    >>
    >> We rented for $1,600/weekly.

    >
    > ? The waterfront properties must have unobstructed sea views, surely?
    >
    > Janet.


    That's not much of a water view, mostly what one sees is utility wires
    and it's certainly not ocean front, I can see more water by lifting my
    toilet lid, I can see and hear better surf by flushing ... I call that
    a street view of bungalos one would find in The Rockaways, NYC... I
    wouldn't pay more than $500/wk rent... and I'm being generous, those
    streets are extremely noisy all night. It looks deserted because all
    the hell raisers are gonna ssleep the day away. Actually I wouldn't
    want to live on that street if someone paid me $500/wk. That's
    definitely not The Hamptons.

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    Brooklyn1 Guest

    Default Re: SOT: Ocean City, NJ still runs dry.

    On Thu, 10 May 2012 05:54:17 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Thu, 10 May 2012 10:03:47 +0100, Janet <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >>> Ed,
    >>>
    >>> Here's Anne on the "Widow's Watch" on 47th Street.
    >>>
    >>> http://oi47.tinypic.com/29l1kq9.jpg
    >>>
    >>> It's the only view in town without housing obstruction from house to sea.
    >>>
    >>> We rented for $1,600/weekly.

    >>
    >> ? The waterfront properties must have unobstructed sea views, surely?
    >>
    >> Janet.

    >Yes, but once you get off that row, beach view is difficult to find.
    >Most of the time you are peeking between the two houses in front of
    >you. Even at that level, the cost of rentals is very high. Depending
    >on the town, beachfront can be $5000 to $10,000 a week, beach views,
    >about 75% of that.


    http://www.farrockaway.com/bobnattarticle2.html

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    Ed Pawlowski Guest

    Default Re: SOT: Ocean City, NJ still runs dry.

    On Thu, 10 May 2012 09:33:10 -0400, Gary <[email protected]> wrote:



    >
    >Try Sandbridge (in Va.Beach) Virginia next time for vacation rental. They
    >are expensive but I don't think near that cost. Also going down into
    >NagsHead, Duck areas of NC.
    >
    >All of the above mentioned features more "natural beaches" too.
    >
    >Gary


    Last time I was in Nags Head, people were being fined for going
    natural on the beach.

  17. #17
    Andy Guest

    Default Re: SOT: Ocean City, NJ still runs dry.

    Janet <[email protected]> wrote:

    > ? The waterfront properties must have unobstructed sea views, surely?



    Of course, except in one case where a family got permission to build on the
    sand! When completed two houses lost waterfront status, ocean view and
    property value. I'd have been mad as hell!

    A lot of palms had to be heavily greased to let that happen.

    Andy

  18. #18
    Gary Guest

    Default Re: SOT: Ocean City, NJ still runs dry.

    Andy wrote:
    >
    > Janet <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > ? The waterfront properties must have unobstructed sea views, surely?

    >
    > Of course, except in one case where a family got permission to build on the
    > sand! When completed two houses lost waterfront status, ocean view and
    > property value. I'd have been mad as hell!


    All the houses in the south end of Va.Beach (Sandbridge area) are built
    right on the beach on stilts. All get damaged in storms and all are at risk
    of being washed away during any annual hurricane. Not a good move, IMO.

    Gary

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    Andy Guest

    Default Re: SOT: Ocean City, NJ still runs dry.

    Gary <[email protected]> wrote:

    > All the houses in the south end of Va.Beach (Sandbridge area) are
    > built right on the beach on stilts. All get damaged in storms and all
    > are at risk of being washed away during any annual hurricane. Not a
    > good move, IMO.



    An acquaintance of ours bought a waterfront house in Malibu, CA, for
    dinner once. It was at street level in front and the "second story" on
    stilts in the rear.

    There was a trap door in the kitchen floor that had a staircase to the
    beach right below. Scary thing I found about it was during high tide the
    water came up just feet shy of flooding the house from below. I imagine
    historical tide records were studied at great length to establish
    building codes. Earthquakes? Mudslides? Wild fires? We called it "God's
    playground." No thank you very much!

    When I lived in Ocean Beach, San Diego, my zero view cottage was half a
    block from the beach. The pavement just turned to sand. Close enough! If
    the cottage is still there, it's probably worth a tidy sum of money.
    ,
    Andy

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