Thread: So how would you tip for ???

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:42:31 -0500, Stu <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>How and why would you tip for the different services below if you and your
>party were at a restaurant and got .....
>
>
>Exceptional Service
>
>
>Average to Exceptional Service
>
>
>Average to Mediocre Service
>
>
>Mediocre to Poor Service
>
>
>Poor to Non Existent Service

How you deal with it depends on where you're eating... and that
includes which country.

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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

"Stu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]..
>
> How and why would you tip for the different services below if you and your
> party were at a restaurant and got .....
>
>
> Exceptional Service
>
20-25%

> Average to Exceptional Service
>
20%
>
> Average to Mediocre Service
>
10-15%

> Mediocre to Poor Service
>
a couple of dollars, maybe. If the food was good.

> Poor to Non Existent Service

Nothing, nada, zip, zilch. And inform the manager.

Jill

On 30-Oct-2009, Stu <[email protected]> wrote:

> How and why would you tip for the different services below if you and your
> party were at a restaurant and got .....
>
>
> Exceptional Service

25+%

> Average to Exceptional Service

17.5-22.5%

> Average to Mediocre Service

10-15%

> Mediocre to Poor Service

8-12%

> Poor to Non Existent Service

0-7.5%


I try to take as much into consideration as possible; sometimes it's not the
wait and buss staff that is the problem. In those situations, I leave a
better tip than if I think they are the problem.

Of course this is all assuming a standard, sit-down restaurant with table
service. If it is a restaurant without full table service (for example, a
breakfast buffet), then the tip, if any, is dependent upon the amount and
quality of service. A single dollar seems generous enough at a place where
the "server" seats you, brings (and refreshes) your drink and does little
else.
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On Fri 30 Oct 2009 07:22:02a, jmcquown told us...

> "Stu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]..
>>
>> How and why would you tip for the different services below if you and
your
>> party were at a restaurant and got .....
>>
>>
>> Exceptional Service
>>
> 20-25%
>
>> Average to Exceptional Service
>>
> 20%
>>
>> Average to Mediocre Service
>>
> 10-15%
>
> > Mediocre to Poor Service
>>
> a couple of dollars, maybe. If the food was good.
>
>> Poor to Non Existent Service
>
> Nothing, nada, zip, zilch. And inform the manager.
>
> Jill
>
>

Ditto!

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Wayne Boatwright

On Oct 30, 7:42*am, Stu <jus...@foodforu.ca> wrote:
> How and why would you tip for the different services below if you and your
> party were at a restaurant and got .....
>
> Exceptional Service
>
> Average to Exceptional Service
>
> Average to Mediocre Service
>
> Mediocre to Poor Service
>
> Poor to Non Existent Service

==================================
I tip the SERVER. If it's been a bad experience, I've learned not to
visit my wrath on the server, but to peak (or write) to the kitchen/
management/corporate office (one or more)

Exceptional: 25%
Above Average 20%
Average 15%
Mediocre 10%
Poor Nothing and I complain.
Lynn in Fargo

PS If the food's not good I stilI tip the server well for good/
excellent service.

Lynn from Fargo wrote:
> On Oct 30, 7:42 am, Stu <jus...@foodforu.ca> wrote:
>> How and why would you tip for the different services below if you and your
>> party were at a restaurant and got .....
>>
>> Exceptional Service
>>
>> Average to Exceptional Service
>>
>> Average to Mediocre Service
>>
>> Mediocre to Poor Service
>>
>> Poor to Non Existent Service
>
> ==================================
> I tip the SERVER. If it's been a bad experience, I've learned not to
> visit my wrath on the server, but to peak (or write) to the kitchen/
> management/corporate office (one or more)
>
> Exceptional: 25%
> Above Average 20%
> Average 15%
> Mediocre 10%
> Poor Nothing and I complain.
> Lynn in Fargo
>
> PS If the food's not good I stilI tip the server well for good/
> excellent service.

Can I take you out to dinner sometime? I like the way you think.

Wait staff does not equal the food in any category.

They may cause people to not return, but they have nothing to do with
the food.

Bob

In article <[email protected]>,
"jmcquown" <[email protected]> wrote:

> > Poor to Non Existent Service
>
> Nothing, nada, zip, zilch. And inform the manager.
>
> Jill

2 pennies.

Makes more of an impression than no tip imho. ;-)
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Bob Muncie wrote:
> Lynn from Fargo wrote:
>> On Oct 30, 7:42 am, Stu <jus...@foodforu.ca> wrote:
>>> How and why would you tip for the different services below if you and
>>> your
>>> party were at a restaurant and got .....
>>>
>>> Exceptional Service
>>>
>>> Average to Exceptional Service
>>>
>>> Average to Mediocre Service
>>>
>>> Mediocre to Poor Service
>>>
>>> Poor to Non Existent Service
>>
>> ==================================
>> I tip the SERVER. If it's been a bad experience, I've learned not to
>> visit my wrath on the server, but to peak (or write) to the kitchen/
>> management/corporate office (one or more)
>>
>> Exceptional: 25%
>> Above Average 20%
>> Average 15%
>> Mediocre 10%
>> Poor Nothing and I complain.
>> Lynn in Fargo
>>
>> PS If the food's not good I stilI tip the server well for good/
>> excellent service.
>
> Can I take you out to dinner sometime? I like the way you think.
>
> Wait staff does not equal the food in any category.
>
> They may cause people to not return, but they have nothing to do with
> the food.
>
> Bob

You are slow, right?

Stevo

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:32:43 -0600, Omelet <[email protected]>
wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> "jmcquown" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > Poor to Non Existent Service
>>
>> Nothing, nada, zip, zilch. And inform the manager.
>>
>> Jill
>
>2 pennies.
>
>Makes more of an impression than no tip imho. ;-)

Change gender of either party to suit.

Waitress to male patron who left 2 penny tip: These two pennies tell
me a lot about you.
Patron: And that would be?
Waitress: The first penny tells me you are a bachelor.
Patron: That's right, and the second penny?
Waitress: That tells me your father was too.

Ross.

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:32:43 -0600, Omelet wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> "jmcquown" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> Poor to Non Existent Service
>>
>> Nothing, nada, zip, zilch. And inform the manager.
>>
>> Jill
>
> 2 pennies.
>
> Makes more of an impression than no tip imho. ;-)

i still say the impression the server gets is 'what a cheap bastard' not 'i
am a bad server.'

your pal,
blake

"Stu" wrote

> Exceptional Service

To me, this includes really good food. can be as much as 50% tip.

> Average to Exceptional Service

I never blame the server for poor cooks. This one though is a bit combined,
looking at 20%

> Average to Mediocre Service

If it's clearly the cook/kitchen that made it mediocre, and the place was
really busy, 20% but if it was the service with no reason, 10%.

> Mediocre to Poor Service

10% if lucky if no dicernable reason for it

> Poor to Non Existent Service

Unless obvious as to why (place swamped, some waitresses out, bus boy trying
to wait tables to help) nothing. Normally, you an see though that the place
is slammed with customers when this happens. 15% in those cases and might
actually calculate the pennies ;-)

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:07:43 -0400, blake murphy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>i still say the impression the server gets is 'what a cheap bastard' not 'i
>am a bad server.'

Agreed.

--
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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

blake murphy wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:32:43 -0600, Omelet wrote:
>
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> "jmcquown" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>> Poor to Non Existent Service
>>> Nothing, nada, zip, zilch. And inform the manager.
>>>
>>> Jill
>> 2 pennies.
>>
>> Makes more of an impression than no tip imho. ;-)
>
> i still say the impression the server gets is 'what a cheap bastard' not 'i
> am a bad server.'

You're right. It will just piss them off and they will attribute it to
the customer being cheap and not a reflection of their poor service
being the reason. Maybe a small tip should be accompanied by a comment
or written tip about how to improve their service. I would have left a
bigger tip but :
- you were rude
- you didn't get the order right
- you disappeared
- you left our table covered with dirty dishes
- you would not bring me something I asked for
- you brought it, but way too late for me to be able to use it
- you made inappropriate comments
etc...

People need to reminded that a tip, a gratuity, is optional, as is the
amount.

In article <z4w6kc9afuxk$.[email protected]>,
blake murphy <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:32:43 -0600, Omelet wrote:
>
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > "jmcquown" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>> Poor to Non Existent Service
> >>
> >> Nothing, nada, zip, zilch. And inform the manager.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> > 2 pennies.
> >
> > Makes more of an impression than no tip imho. ;-)
>
> i still say the impression the server gets is 'what a cheap bastard' not 'i
> am a bad server.'
>
> your pal,
> blake

If they are that stupid to not get the "2 cent" message, that's their
problem. To me, NO tip would mean "cheap bastard"...
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On Oct 31, 9:52*am, Dave Smith <adavid.sm...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> blake murphy wrote:
> > On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:32:43 -0600, Omelet wrote:
> >> In article <7l0b4sF3bgdo...@mid.individual.net>,
> >> *"jmcquown" <j_mcqu...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>> Poor to Non Existent Service
> >>> Nothing, nada, zip, zilch. *And inform the manager.
> >> 2 pennies.
> >> Makes more of an impression than no tip imho. ;-)
> > i still say the impression the server gets is 'what a cheap bastard' not 'i
> > am a bad server.'

> You're right. It will just piss them off and they will attribute it to
> the customer being cheap and not a reflection of their poor service
> being the reason. *Maybe a small tip should be accompanied by a comment
> or written tip about how to improve their service. *I would have left a
> bigger tip but :
> - you were rude
> - you didn't get the order right
> - you disappeared
> - you left our table covered with dirty dishes
> - you would not bring me something I asked for
> - you brought it, but way too late for me to be able to use it
> - you made inappropriate comments
> etc...
>
> People need to reminded that a tip, a gratuity, is optional, as is the
> amount.

Leaving a written tip assumes they're going to read whatever you left.
Most "servers" of the type we're discussing here don't care what you
write. They're always going to blame everyone else and, in some cases,
whine to mommy and get another donation to keep them living on their
own...

The Ranger

Dave Smith wrote:
> blake murphy wrote:
>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:32:43 -0600, Omelet wrote:
>>
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>> "jmcquown" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Poor to Non Existent Service
>>>> Nothing, nada, zip, zilch. And inform the manager.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>> 2 pennies.
>>>
>>> Makes more of an impression than no tip imho. ;-)
>>
>> i still say the impression the server gets is 'what a cheap
>> bastard'
>> not 'i am a bad server.'
>
> You're right. It will just piss them off and they will attribute it
> to
> the customer being cheap and not a reflection of their poor service
> being the reason. Maybe a small tip should be accompanied by a
> comment or written tip about how to improve their service. I would
> have left a bigger tip but :
> - you were rude
> - you didn't get the order right
> - you disappeared
> - you left our table covered with dirty dishes
> - you would not bring me something I asked for
> - you brought it, but way too late for me to be able to use it
> - you made inappropriate comments
> etc...
>
> People need to reminded that a tip, a gratuity, is optional, as is
> the
> amount.

You bring up some good points. OTOH, if the service were that bad, a
quiet word of explanation to the manager might help. That server
should either be given more training or let go. No restaurant wants
to offend its customers.

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:09:48 -0600, Omelet wrote:

> In article <z4w6kc9afuxk$.[email protected]>,
> blake murphy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:32:43 -0600, Omelet wrote:
>>
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>> "jmcquown" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Poor to Non Existent Service
>>>>
>>>> Nothing, nada, zip, zilch. And inform the manager.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> 2 pennies.
>>>
>>> Makes more of an impression than no tip imho. ;-)
>>
>> i still say the impression the server gets is 'what a cheap bastard' not 'i
>> am a bad server.'
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> If they are that stupid to not get the "2 cent" message, that's their
> problem. To me, NO tip would mean "cheap bastard"...

o.k., maybe for two cents you get 'asshole' rather than '
cheap bastard.'

your pal,
blake

In article <14snmoxbl1eoi$.[email protected]>,
blake murphy <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:09:48 -0600, Omelet wrote:
>
> > In article <z4w6kc9afuxk$.[email protected]>,
> > blake murphy <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:32:43 -0600, Omelet wrote:
> >>
> >>> In article <[email protected]>,
> >>> "jmcquown" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> Poor to Non Existent Service
> >>>>
> >>>> Nothing, nada, zip, zilch. And inform the manager.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jill
> >>>
> >>> 2 pennies.
> >>>
> >>> Makes more of an impression than no tip imho. ;-)
> >>
> >> i still say the impression the server gets is 'what a cheap bastard' not 'i
> >> am a bad server.'
> >>
> >> your pal,
> >> blake
> >
> > If they are that stupid to not get the "2 cent" message, that's their
> > problem. To me, NO tip would mean "cheap bastard"...
>
> o.k., maybe for two cents you get 'asshole' rather than '
> cheap bastard.'
>
> your pal,
> blake

<lol> Most likely! But the two times I've done that in my life, I felt
the same way about the server so did not give a rats ass... I simply
never ate there again.

There is too much competition for me to put up with ****ty service.
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On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:09:45 -0400, "Dora" <[email protected]> fired
up random neurons and synapses to opine:

>You bring up some good points. OTOH, if the service were that bad, a
>quiet word of explanation to the manager might help. That server
>should either be given more training or let go. No restaurant wants
>to offend its customers.

Ditto for good service. The DH and I were in Orange NJ over the
weekend, staying at a hotel right next to a TGIFriday. It poured down
rain all weekend and rather than try to drive all over a strange town
at night in the rain, we just ran over to TGIFriday two nights
running. Man, had that staff been sent to Smile School! I'm not a
TGIFriday fan and can't say I'd break a nail to go to another one, but
I was pleasantly surprised at an absolute crack staff, all of whom
went out of their way to be cordial and attentive. We congratulated
the manager on the way out.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

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old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

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