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Thread: Should chefs be political???

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    ImStillMags Guest

    Default Should chefs be political???

    I happen to agree with Mario Batali. And I happen to think it's good
    for anyone who is in the public eye to speak out.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/10/ny....html?src=recg




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    A Moose in Love Guest

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    On Nov 11, 1:36*pm, ImStillMags <sitara8...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > I happen to agree with Mario Batali. * And I happen to think it's goodfor anyone who isinthe public eye to speak out.
    >
    > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/10/ny...ott-chef-mario...


    Good for Mario. Too bad he apologized. He's being political I guess.

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    Christopher M. Guest

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    "ImStillMags" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:5[email protected]..
    >I happen to agree with Mario Batali. And I happen to think it's good
    > for anyone who is in the public eye to speak out.
    >
    > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/10/ny....html?src=recg


    Comparing white-collar crime with genocide is pure stupidity.

    I do miss his series 'Mario Eats Italy' though.

    And I wish I had clip of that time Martha Stewart pushed him. That was
    insane.


    W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)



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    Pico Rico Guest

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    "ImStillMags" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >I happen to agree with Mario Batali. And I happen to think it's good
    > for anyone who is in the public eye to speak out.
    >
    > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/10/ny....html?src=recg
    >
    >



    The question should not be whether chefs or other celebrities should be
    political. The question should be why should anyone listen to them?



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    sf Guest

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    On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:36:56 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > I happen to agree with Mario Batali. And I happen to think it's good
    > for anyone who is in the public eye to speak out.
    >
    > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/10/ny....html?src=recg
    >
    >

    The lesson here is: Bankers may have cold, black hearts; but they
    also have thin skins.

    --
    All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

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    Ed Pawlowski Guest

    Default Re: Should chefs be political???

    On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:36:56 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I happen to agree with Mario Batali. And I happen to think it's good
    >for anyone who is in the public eye to speak out.
    >
    >http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/10/ny....html?src=recg
    >
    >



    We it certainly gets attention. Time (the clock, not the magazine)
    will tell how the remarks affect him and his business. If a
    celebrity, local store owner, athlete, makes political remarks, they
    take a risk of alienating the fan or customer base.

    Batali is correct about bankers, but I think he erred in the way he
    brought Stalin and Hitler into the conversation. They were chose by
    Time in the past so I'm not sure he was making a direct comparison. .
    Personally, I respect him as a chef, but I don't give a damn about his
    politics, what football team he may follow, or if he has a pet. If he
    stops by my house,we can discuss that stuff over a beer and maybe I'll
    agree or disagree.

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    gloria.p Guest

    Default Re: Should chefs be political???

    On 11/11/2011 11:36 AM, ImStillMags wrote:
    > I happen to agree with Mario Batali. And I happen to think it's good
    > for anyone who is in the public eye to speak out.
    >
    > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/10/ny....html?src=recg
    >
    >
    >



    I agree with him also.

    gloria p

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    dsi1 Guest

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    On 11/11/2011 8:36 AM, ImStillMags wrote:
    > I happen to agree with Mario Batali. And I happen to think it's good
    > for anyone who is in the public eye to speak out.
    >
    > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/10/ny....html?src=recg


    He bit the hand that feeds him, I guess he doesn't know which side of
    his bread is buttered.

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    Nunya Bidnits Guest

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    ImStillMags <[email protected]> wrote:
    > I happen to agree with Mario Batali. And I happen to think it's good
    > for anyone who is in the public eye to speak out.
    >
    > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/10/ny....html?src=recg


    Anything or anyone being boycotted by Wall Street bankers can't be all bad.

    And as far as his characterization the current decade of unconscionable
    power grabbing by bankers and big money interests by equating it with evil
    dictators, he was... umm... premature. ;-)

    MartyB



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    merryb Guest

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    On Nov 11, 10:36*am, ImStillMags <sitara8...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > I happen to agree with Mario Batali. * And I happen to think it's good
    > for anyone who is in the public eye to speak out.
    >
    > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/10/ny...ott-chef-mario...


    I think a chef's primary purpose is to cook...

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    gloria.p Guest

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    On 11/11/2011 5:37 PM, merryb wrote:
    > On Nov 11, 10:36 am, ImStillMags<sitara8...@gmail.com> wrote:
    >> I happen to agree with Mario Batali. And I happen to think it's good
    >> for anyone who is in the public eye to speak out.
    >>
    >> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/10/ny...ott-chef-mario...

    >
    > I think a chef's primary purpose is to cook...



    But he's a human being and US citizen, therefore covered by the First
    Amendment, freedom of speech.

    Perhaps all NY restaurant owners will now have to pass a new political
    litmus test before Wall Street types are allowed to eat at their
    establishments. Perhaps in exchange the Wall Streeters will submit to
    lie detector tests?

    gloria p

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    Bob Terwilliger Guest

    Default Re: Should chefs be political???

    Sitara wrote:

    > I happen to agree with Mario Batali. And I happen to think it's good
    > for anyone who is in the public eye to speak out.
    >
    > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/10/ny....html?src=recg



    I disagree with the notion that "it's good for anyone who is in the public
    eye to speak out" because so many famous people are stunningly ignorant,
    astoundingly stupid, just plain crazy, criminally-minded, or any combination
    of those qualities.

    I really don't think Batali's businesses will suffer greatly. It just might
    become easier to get a reservation at one of his restaurants, though.


    Bob
    "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers."
    --Shakespeare, "Henry VI"



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    sf Guest

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    On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:02:07 -0800, "Bob Terwilliger"
    <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote:

    > I really don't think Batali's businesses will suffer greatly.


    Me either, but I'm not familiar with the restaurant scene in that
    stratosphere of NYC.

    > It just might
    > become easier to get a reservation at one of his restaurants, though.



    --
    All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

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    merryb Guest

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    On Nov 11, 5:34*pm, "gloria.p" <gpues...@comcast.net> wrote:
    > On 11/11/2011 5:37 PM, merryb wrote:
    >
    > > On Nov 11, 10:36 am, ImStillMags<sitara8...@gmail.com> *wrote:
    > >> I happen to agree with Mario Batali. * And I happen to think it's good
    > >> for anyone who is in the public eye to speak out.

    >
    > >>http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/10/ny...ott-chef-mario....

    >
    > > I think a chef's primary purpose is to cook...

    >
    > But he's a human being and US citizen, therefore covered by the First
    > Amendment, freedom of speech.
    >
    > Perhaps all NY restaurant owners will now have to pass a new political
    > litmus test before Wall Street types are allowed to eat at their
    > establishments. *Perhaps in exchange the Wall Streeters will submit to
    > lie detector tests?
    >
    > gloria p


    Very true- we have a right to our opinions, and I did not read the
    article. I only based my reply on the topic.

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    dsi1 Guest

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    On 11/11/2011 7:41 PM, merryb wrote:
    > On Nov 11, 5:34 pm, "gloria.p"<gpues...@comcast.net> wrote:
    >> On 11/11/2011 5:37 PM, merryb wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Nov 11, 10:36 am, ImStillMags<sitara8...@gmail.com> wrote:
    >>>> I happen to agree with Mario Batali. And I happen to think it's good
    >>>> for anyone who is in the public eye to speak out.

    >>
    >>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/10/ny...ott-chef-mario...

    >>
    >>> I think a chef's primary purpose is to cook...

    >>
    >> But he's a human being and US citizen, therefore covered by the First
    >> Amendment, freedom of speech.
    >>
    >> Perhaps all NY restaurant owners will now have to pass a new political
    >> litmus test before Wall Street types are allowed to eat at their
    >> establishments. Perhaps in exchange the Wall Streeters will submit to
    >> lie detector tests?
    >>
    >> gloria p

    >
    > Very true- we have a right to our opinions, and I did not read the
    > article. I only based my reply on the topic.


    We all have that right, thank God. However, the minute a restaurant
    owner does something to make his clientele uncomfortable, he's pretty
    much dead meat to those guys. Oddly enough, they ain't gonna be giving
    him a medal for being so brave and honest.

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    Andy Guest

    Default Re: Should chefs be political???

    merryb <[email protected]> wrote:

    >> Perhaps all NY restaurant owners will now have to pass a new political
    >> litmus test before Wall Street types are allowed to eat at their
    >> establishments. ˙Perhaps in exchange the Wall Streeters will submit to
    >> lie detector tests?
    >>
    >> gloria p

    >
    > Very true- we have a right to our opinions, and I did not read the
    > article. I only based my reply on the topic.



    The chef at Narsai David's, a French restaurant in Albany, California,
    was tyrant!

    "Andy! Another pitcher of beer!"

    Actually he was a great guy! For a brief moment in time we got along
    handsomely, stoned out of our minds.

    How he cooked gourmet French cuisine three days a week was magical!!!

    Andy

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    notbob Guest

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    On 2011-11-12, Bob Terwilliger <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote:

    > I disagree with the notion that "it's good for anyone who is in the public
    > eye to speak out" because so many famous people are stunningly ignorant,
    > astoundingly stupid, just plain crazy, criminally-minded, or any combination
    > of those qualities.


    So unlike the ppl who actually serve in the public sector. <eye roll>

    nb

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    AyeshaF Guest

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    I don't see why chefs can't be political. Anybody can be what they want
    to be, as long as they are able to face the consequences.




    --
    AyeshaF

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    Bob Terwilliger Guest

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    notbob wrote:

    >> I disagree with the notion that "it's good for anyone who is in the
    >> public eye to speak out" because so many famous people are stunningly
    >> ignorant, astoundingly stupid, just plain crazy, criminally-minded, or
    >> any combination of those qualities.

    >
    > So unlike the ppl who actually serve in the public sector. <eye roll>



    I didn't mention Michele Bachmann by name, did I?

    Bob



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    Christopher Helms Guest

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    On Nov 11, 2:46*pm, "Pico Rico" <PicoR...@nonospam.com> wrote:
    > "ImStillMags" <sitara8...@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >
    > news:506af914-f165-444a-a561-[email protected]..
    >
    > >I happen to agree with Mario Batali. * And I happen to think it's good
    > > for anyone who is in the public eye to speak out.

    >
    > >http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/10/ny...ott-chef-mario...

    >
    > The question should not be whether chefs or other celebrities should be
    > political. *The question should be why should anyone listen to them?



    They are entitled to voice their opinions on non food subjects, just
    like anyone else. Whether it's a good idea for some of them to be
    publicly doing so isn't always clear.

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