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  1. #1
    Wayne Boatwright Guest

    Default Re: Shelf life

    On Sat 13 Dec 2008 05:20:45p, SteveB told us...

    > My wife and mother in law (I see where my wife got it) have the idea
    > that if you put something in the refrigerator, there is no such thing as
    > shelf life.
    >
    > "Well, it's been in the refrigerator," is the common answer to "Is this
    > good?"
    >
    > I finally made a rule that if you can't tell me when it was cooked, I
    > won't eat it................ Oh, I cooked that last week some time
    > .............. Was it Thursday, or the Thursday before .........
    >
    > I'm telling you, we went through the Clorox wipes thing after she saw it
    > on Oprah, and wiped down everything in the kitchen if so much as a fly
    > landed on anything in the kitchen including the ceiling, but she will
    > leave chicken to thaw from 7 AM to 4 PM in the sink at 70 F.
    >
    > I need to get ahold of Oprah and have her do a show on shelf life and
    > kitchen safety re: foods.
    >
    > I mean, it can have brown mold on it, be unrecognizable, and she will
    > still say, "I don't understand it. It's been in the refrigerator."
    >
    > Help me out. I've tried explaining it. Some good sites that I could
    > send to her friends, and they could forward to her (she won't believe it
    > if it comes from me, but her friends and Oprah are Goddesses).
    >
    > Steve


    Perhaps if you can't convince your wife that virtually foods have a shelf
    life, refrigerated or not, that you will have to assign *her* a shelf life.
    :-)

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  2. #2
    SteveB Guest

    Default Shelf life

    My wife and mother in law (I see where my wife got it) have the idea that if
    you put something in the refrigerator, there is no such thing as shelf life.

    "Well, it's been in the refrigerator," is the common answer to "Is this
    good?"

    I finally made a rule that if you can't tell me when it was cooked, I won't
    eat it................ Oh, I cooked that last week some time ..............
    Was it Thursday, or the Thursday before .........

    I'm telling you, we went through the Clorox wipes thing after she saw it on
    Oprah, and wiped down everything in the kitchen if so much as a fly landed
    on anything in the kitchen including the ceiling, but she will leave chicken
    to thaw from 7 AM to 4 PM in the sink at 70 F.

    I need to get ahold of Oprah and have her do a show on shelf life and
    kitchen safety re: foods.

    I mean, it can have brown mold on it, be unrecognizable, and she will still
    say, "I don't understand it. It's been in the refrigerator."

    Help me out. I've tried explaining it. Some good sites that I could send to
    her friends, and they could forward to her (she won't believe it if it comes
    from me, but her friends and Oprah are Goddesses).

    Steve



  3. #3
    Dave Bell Guest

    Default Re: Shelf life

    SteveB wrote:
    > My wife and mother in law (I see where my wife got it) have the idea that if
    > you put something in the refrigerator, there is no such thing as shelf life.
    >
    > Help me out. I've tried explaining it. Some good sites that I could send to
    > her friends, and they could forward to her (she won't believe it if it comes
    > from me, but her friends and Oprah are Goddesses).
    >
    > Steve


    That reminds me, I think there's a bit of turkey, some stuffing and
    gravy left in there, somewhere. Time for lunch...

  4. #4
    Kathleen Guest

    Default Re: Shelf life

    Wayne Boatwright wrote:

    > On Sat 13 Dec 2008 05:20:45p, SteveB told us...
    >
    >
    >>My wife and mother in law (I see where my wife got it) have the idea
    >>that if you put something in the refrigerator, there is no such thing as
    >>shelf life.
    >>
    >>"Well, it's been in the refrigerator," is the common answer to "Is this
    >>good?"
    >>
    >>I finally made a rule that if you can't tell me when it was cooked, I
    >>won't eat it................ Oh, I cooked that last week some time
    >>.............. Was it Thursday, or the Thursday before .........
    >>
    >>I'm telling you, we went through the Clorox wipes thing after she saw it
    >>on Oprah, and wiped down everything in the kitchen if so much as a fly
    >>landed on anything in the kitchen including the ceiling, but she will
    >>leave chicken to thaw from 7 AM to 4 PM in the sink at 70 F.
    >>
    >>I need to get ahold of Oprah and have her do a show on shelf life and
    >>kitchen safety re: foods.
    >>
    >>I mean, it can have brown mold on it, be unrecognizable, and she will
    >>still say, "I don't understand it. It's been in the refrigerator."
    >>
    >>Help me out. I've tried explaining it. Some good sites that I could
    >>send to her friends, and they could forward to her (she won't believe it
    >>if it comes from me, but her friends and Oprah are Goddesses).
    >>
    >>Steve

    >
    >
    > Perhaps if you can't convince your wife that virtually foods have a shelf
    > life, refrigerated or not, that you will have to assign *her* a shelf life.
    > :-)
    >


    Either that or stage midnight command raids on the fridge, eliminating
    suspect foods.

    I'll never forget being invited to dinner at my future parent-in-laws
    house and being offered previously opened bottled salad dressings that
    were FIVE YEARS out of date.

    That was just the tip of the extremely disgusting iceberg.

    And years later, my MIL, a prime example of Darwin's Hammer, was
    offended when I declined to leave our infant daughter with her for
    overnight visits.


  5. #5
    Melba's Jammin' Guest

    Default Re: Shelf life

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "SteveB" <toquerville@zionvistas> wrote:

    > My wife and mother in law (I see where my wife got it) have the idea that if
    > you put something in the refrigerator, there is no such thing as shelf life.
    >
    > "Well, it's been in the refrigerator," is the common answer to "Is this
    > good?"
    >
    > I finally made a rule that if you can't tell me when it was cooked, I won't
    > eat it................ Oh, I cooked that last week some time ..............
    > Was it Thursday, or the Thursday before .........
    >
    > I'm telling you, we went through the Clorox wipes thing after she saw it on
    > Oprah, and wiped down everything in the kitchen if so much as a fly landed
    > on anything in the kitchen including the ceiling, but she will leave chicken
    > to thaw from 7 AM to 4 PM in the sink at 70 F.
    >
    > I need to get ahold of Oprah and have her do a show on shelf life and
    > kitchen safety re: foods.
    >
    > I mean, it can have brown mold on it, be unrecognizable, and she will still
    > say, "I don't understand it. It's been in the refrigerator."


    > Steve


    Tell her that refrigeration does not prevent spoilage; it only delays it.

    --
    -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
    <http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/amytaylor> -- the world can
    learn much about grace from Amy and Warren.

  6. #6
    SteveB Guest

    Default Re: Shelf life


    "Wayne Boatwright" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected] 5.247...
    > On Sat 13 Dec 2008 05:20:45p, SteveB told us...
    >
    >> My wife and mother in law (I see where my wife got it) have the idea
    >> that if you put something in the refrigerator, there is no such thing as
    >> shelf life.
    >>
    >> "Well, it's been in the refrigerator," is the common answer to "Is this
    >> good?"
    >>
    >> I finally made a rule that if you can't tell me when it was cooked, I
    >> won't eat it................ Oh, I cooked that last week some time
    >> .............. Was it Thursday, or the Thursday before .........
    >>
    >> I'm telling you, we went through the Clorox wipes thing after she saw it
    >> on Oprah, and wiped down everything in the kitchen if so much as a fly
    >> landed on anything in the kitchen including the ceiling, but she will
    >> leave chicken to thaw from 7 AM to 4 PM in the sink at 70 F.
    >>
    >> I need to get ahold of Oprah and have her do a show on shelf life and
    >> kitchen safety re: foods.
    >>
    >> I mean, it can have brown mold on it, be unrecognizable, and she will
    >> still say, "I don't understand it. It's been in the refrigerator."
    >>
    >> Help me out. I've tried explaining it. Some good sites that I could
    >> send to her friends, and they could forward to her (she won't believe it
    >> if it comes from me, but her friends and Oprah are Goddesses).
    >>
    >> Steve

    >
    > Perhaps if you can't convince your wife that virtually foods have a shelf
    > life, refrigerated or not, that you will have to assign *her* a shelf
    > life.
    > :-)
    >
    > --
    > Wayne Boatwright


    What I'm waiting for, and somewhat hoping, is that she will have an
    intestinal bout with something caused by this and learn her own lesson. But
    then, if the doctor asked her what she ate lately, she'd just say, "Nothing
    that hasn't been refrigerated."

    Steve



  7. #7
    Wayne Boatwright Guest

    Default Re: Shelf life

    On Sat 13 Dec 2008 09:13:56p, SteveB told us...

    >
    > "Kathleen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:QnY0l.4938$%[email protected]..
    >> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Sat 13 Dec 2008 05:20:45p, SteveB told us...
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>My wife and mother in law (I see where my wife got it) have the idea
    >>>>that if you put something in the refrigerator, there is no such thing
    >>>>as shelf life.
    >>>>"Well, it's been in the refrigerator," is the common answer to "Is
    >>>>this good?"
    >>>>
    >>>>I finally made a rule that if you can't tell me when it was cooked, I
    >>>>won't eat it................ Oh, I cooked that last week some time
    >>>>.............. Was it Thursday, or the Thursday before .........
    >>>>
    >>>>I'm telling you, we went through the Clorox wipes thing after she saw
    >>>>it on Oprah, and wiped down everything in the kitchen if so much as a
    >>>>fly landed on anything in the kitchen including the ceiling, but she
    >>>>will leave chicken to thaw from 7 AM to 4 PM in the sink at 70 F.
    >>>>
    >>>>I need to get ahold of Oprah and have her do a show on shelf life and
    >>>>kitchen safety re: foods.
    >>>>
    >>>>I mean, it can have brown mold on it, be unrecognizable, and she will
    >>>>still say, "I don't understand it. It's been in the refrigerator."
    >>>>
    >>>>Help me out. I've tried explaining it. Some good sites that I could
    >>>>send to her friends, and they could forward to her (she won't believe
    >>>>it if it comes from me, but her friends and Oprah are Goddesses).
    >>>>
    >>>>Steve
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Perhaps if you can't convince your wife that virtually foods have a
    >>> shelf life, refrigerated or not, that you will have to assign *her* a
    >>> shelf life. :-)
    >>>

    >>
    >> Either that or stage midnight command raids on the fridge, eliminating
    >> suspect foods.
    >>
    >> I'll never forget being invited to dinner at my future parent-in-laws
    >> house and being offered previously opened bottled salad dressings that
    >> were FIVE YEARS out of date.
    >>
    >> That was just the tip of the extremely disgusting iceberg.
    >>
    >> And years later, my MIL, a prime example of Darwin's Hammer, was
    >> offended when I declined to leave our infant daughter with her for
    >> overnight visits.

    >
    > I commonly go through the fridge when left home alone. Only thing worse
    > than being served something out of date is being told to taste it and
    > see if it's bad.
    >
    > Steve
    >
    >
    >


    Ugh, yes!

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    Wayne Boatwright
    (correct the spelling of "geemail" to reply)
    ************************************************** **********************
    Date: Saturday, 12(XII)/13(XIII)/08(MMVIII)
    ************************************************** **********************
    Countdown till Christmas Day
    1wks 4dys 3hrs 38mins
    ************************************************** **********************
    Clinton excuse #15: Hey - I just do what the wife says
    ************************************************** **********************


  8. #8
    SteveB Guest

    Default Re: Shelf life


    "Kathleen" <k[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:QnY0l.4938$%[email protected]..
    > Wayne Boatwright wrote:
    >
    >> On Sat 13 Dec 2008 05:20:45p, SteveB told us...
    >>
    >>
    >>>My wife and mother in law (I see where my wife got it) have the idea
    >>>that if you put something in the refrigerator, there is no such thing as
    >>>shelf life.
    >>>"Well, it's been in the refrigerator," is the common answer to "Is this
    >>>good?"
    >>>
    >>>I finally made a rule that if you can't tell me when it was cooked, I
    >>>won't eat it................ Oh, I cooked that last week some time
    >>>.............. Was it Thursday, or the Thursday before .........
    >>>
    >>>I'm telling you, we went through the Clorox wipes thing after she saw it
    >>>on Oprah, and wiped down everything in the kitchen if so much as a fly
    >>>landed on anything in the kitchen including the ceiling, but she will
    >>>leave chicken to thaw from 7 AM to 4 PM in the sink at 70 F.
    >>>
    >>>I need to get ahold of Oprah and have her do a show on shelf life and
    >>>kitchen safety re: foods.
    >>>
    >>>I mean, it can have brown mold on it, be unrecognizable, and she will
    >>>still say, "I don't understand it. It's been in the refrigerator."
    >>>
    >>>Help me out. I've tried explaining it. Some good sites that I could
    >>>send to her friends, and they could forward to her (she won't believe it
    >>>if it comes from me, but her friends and Oprah are Goddesses).
    >>>
    >>>Steve

    >>
    >>
    >> Perhaps if you can't convince your wife that virtually foods have a shelf
    >> life, refrigerated or not, that you will have to assign *her* a shelf
    >> life. :-)
    >>

    >
    > Either that or stage midnight command raids on the fridge, eliminating
    > suspect foods.
    >
    > I'll never forget being invited to dinner at my future parent-in-laws
    > house and being offered previously opened bottled salad dressings that
    > were FIVE YEARS out of date.
    >
    > That was just the tip of the extremely disgusting iceberg.
    >
    > And years later, my MIL, a prime example of Darwin's Hammer, was offended
    > when I declined to leave our infant daughter with her for overnight
    > visits.


    I commonly go through the fridge when left home alone. Only thing worse
    than being served something out of date is being told to taste it and see if
    it's bad.

    Steve



  9. #9
    SteveB Guest

    Default Re: Shelf life


    "Melba's Jammin'" <[email protected]> wrote

    > Tell her that refrigeration does not prevent spoilage; it only delays it.
    >


    BTDT.



  10. #10
    sf Guest

    Default Re: Shelf life

    On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:13:56 -0800, "SteveB" <toquerville@zionvistas>
    wrote:

    >Only thing worse
    >than being served something out of date is being told to taste it and see if
    >it's bad.


    They're alive, you're alive. All is well.


    --
    I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
    interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

    Mae West

  11. #11
    Omelet Guest

    Default Re: Shelf life

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "SteveB" <toquerville@zionvistas> wrote:

    > My wife and mother in law (I see where my wife got it) have the idea that if
    > you put something in the refrigerator, there is no such thing as shelf life.
    >
    > "Well, it's been in the refrigerator," is the common answer to "Is this
    > good?"
    >
    > I finally made a rule that if you can't tell me when it was cooked, I won't
    > eat it................ Oh, I cooked that last week some time ..............
    > Was it Thursday, or the Thursday before .........
    >
    > I'm telling you, we went through the Clorox wipes thing after she saw it on
    > Oprah, and wiped down everything in the kitchen if so much as a fly landed
    > on anything in the kitchen including the ceiling, but she will leave chicken
    > to thaw from 7 AM to 4 PM in the sink at 70 F.
    >
    > I need to get ahold of Oprah and have her do a show on shelf life and
    > kitchen safety re: foods.
    >
    > I mean, it can have brown mold on it, be unrecognizable, and she will still
    > say, "I don't understand it. It's been in the refrigerator."
    >
    > Help me out. I've tried explaining it. Some good sites that I could send to
    > her friends, and they could forward to her (she won't believe it if it comes
    > from me, but her friends and Oprah are Goddesses).
    >
    > Steve


    You can't educate some people. <g>
    For cooked foods, my limit is 7 days. Period.

    I generally thaw some meats on the counter for 3 or 4 hours, then they
    go in the 'frige but that's only if I'm planning on cooking them THAT
    day. If I plan far enough ahead, they get thawed in the 'frige for
    however long it takes.

    Shelf life of veggies is up to the veggie. I've recently discovered
    tho' that many veggies keep better at room temp! I'm taking my examples
    from the grocery store. I figure there is a reason the produce section
    is not refrigerated.

    Iceberg lettuce especially I've noted turns brown FASTER in the
    refrigerator than it does if left in the kitchen produce baskets.
    --
    Peace! Om

    "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

  12. #12
    Omelet Guest

    Default Re: Shelf life

    In article <DmY0l.6671$[email protected]>,
    Dave Bell <[email protected]> wrote:

    > SteveB wrote:
    > > My wife and mother in law (I see where my wife got it) have the idea that
    > > if
    > > you put something in the refrigerator, there is no such thing as shelf
    > > life.
    > >
    > > Help me out. I've tried explaining it. Some good sites that I could send
    > > to
    > > her friends, and they could forward to her (she won't believe it if it
    > > comes
    > > from me, but her friends and Oprah are Goddesses).
    > >
    > > Steve

    >
    > That reminds me, I think there's a bit of turkey, some stuffing and
    > gravy left in there, somewhere. Time for lunch...


    Yer crazy. <g> I'll bet it's gone south by now!
    --
    Peace! Om

    "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

  13. #13
    Omelet Guest

    Default Re: Shelf life

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "SteveB" <toquerville@zionvistas> wrote:

    > I commonly go through the fridge when left home alone. Only thing worse
    > than being served something out of date is being told to taste it and see if
    > it's bad.
    >
    > Steve


    <lol> Okay, that was funny. ;-) Whatever happened to the "sniff test"?
    The only stuff in my 'frige that does tend to stay forever are
    condiments! But even those, I try to go thru them annually...

    Soy type sauces are the exception. They do last a LOT longer due to all
    the salt in them. Same goes for vinegar type items.
    --
    Peace! Om

    "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

  14. #14
    blake murphy Guest

    Default Re: Shelf life

    On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:20:45 -0800, SteveB wrote:

    > My wife and mother in law (I see where my wife got it) have the idea that if
    > you put something in the refrigerator, there is no such thing as shelf life.
    >
    > "Well, it's been in the refrigerator," is the common answer to "Is this
    > good?"
    >
    > I finally made a rule that if you can't tell me when it was cooked, I won't
    > eat it................ Oh, I cooked that last week some time ..............
    > Was it Thursday, or the Thursday before .........
    >
    > I'm telling you, we went through the Clorox wipes thing after she saw it on
    > Oprah, and wiped down everything in the kitchen if so much as a fly landed
    > on anything in the kitchen including the ceiling, but she will leave chicken
    > to thaw from 7 AM to 4 PM in the sink at 70 F.
    >
    > I need to get ahold of Oprah and have her do a show on shelf life and
    > kitchen safety re: foods.
    >
    > I mean, it can have brown mold on it, be unrecognizable, and she will still
    > say, "I don't understand it. It's been in the refrigerator."
    >
    > Help me out. I've tried explaining it. Some good sites that I could send to
    > her friends, and they could forward to her (she won't believe it if it comes
    > from me, but her friends and Oprah are Goddesses).
    >
    > Steve


    would something from the u.s.d.a. help?

    <http://www.foodsafety.gov/~fsg/f01chart.html>

    they're pretty conservative (to my way of thinking), but at least she can't
    say you're making this stuff up.

    your pal,
    blake

  15. #15
    Pete C. Guest

    Default Re: Shelf life


    SteveB wrote:
    >
    > My wife and mother in law (I see where my wife got it) have the idea that if
    > you put something in the refrigerator, there is no such thing as shelf life.
    >
    > "Well, it's been in the refrigerator," is the common answer to "Is this
    > good?"
    >
    > I finally made a rule that if you can't tell me when it was cooked, I won't
    > eat it................ Oh, I cooked that last week some time ..............
    > Was it Thursday, or the Thursday before .........
    >
    > I'm telling you, we went through the Clorox wipes thing after she saw it on
    > Oprah, and wiped down everything in the kitchen if so much as a fly landed
    > on anything in the kitchen including the ceiling, but she will leave chicken
    > to thaw from 7 AM to 4 PM in the sink at 70 F.
    >
    > I need to get ahold of Oprah and have her do a show on shelf life and
    > kitchen safety re: foods.
    >
    > I mean, it can have brown mold on it, be unrecognizable, and she will still
    > say, "I don't understand it. It's been in the refrigerator."
    >
    > Help me out. I've tried explaining it. Some good sites that I could send to
    > her friends, and they could forward to her (she won't believe it if it comes
    > from me, but her friends and Oprah are Goddesses).
    >
    > Steve


    If it's been in the freezer at 0 or below, and it was good when it went
    in, then it *is* still good, at least from a safety perspective. Not so
    if it's in the refrigerator.

  16. #16
    Pete C. Guest

    Default Re: Shelf life


    Kathleen wrote:
    >
    > Wayne Boatwright wrote:
    >
    > > On Sat 13 Dec 2008 05:20:45p, SteveB told us...
    > >
    > >
    > >>My wife and mother in law (I see where my wife got it) have the idea
    > >>that if you put something in the refrigerator, there is no such thing as
    > >>shelf life.
    > >>
    > >>"Well, it's been in the refrigerator," is the common answer to "Is this
    > >>good?"
    > >>
    > >>I finally made a rule that if you can't tell me when it was cooked, I
    > >>won't eat it................ Oh, I cooked that last week some time
    > >>.............. Was it Thursday, or the Thursday before .........
    > >>
    > >>I'm telling you, we went through the Clorox wipes thing after she saw it
    > >>on Oprah, and wiped down everything in the kitchen if so much as a fly
    > >>landed on anything in the kitchen including the ceiling, but she will
    > >>leave chicken to thaw from 7 AM to 4 PM in the sink at 70 F.
    > >>
    > >>I need to get ahold of Oprah and have her do a show on shelf life and
    > >>kitchen safety re: foods.
    > >>
    > >>I mean, it can have brown mold on it, be unrecognizable, and she will
    > >>still say, "I don't understand it. It's been in the refrigerator."
    > >>
    > >>Help me out. I've tried explaining it. Some good sites that I could
    > >>send to her friends, and they could forward to her (she won't believe it
    > >>if it comes from me, but her friends and Oprah are Goddesses).
    > >>
    > >>Steve

    > >
    > >
    > > Perhaps if you can't convince your wife that virtually foods have a shelf
    > > life, refrigerated or not, that you will have to assign *her* a shelf life.
    > > :-)
    > >

    >
    > Either that or stage midnight command raids on the fridge, eliminating
    > suspect foods.
    >
    > I'll never forget being invited to dinner at my future parent-in-laws
    > house and being offered previously opened bottled salad dressings that
    > were FIVE YEARS out of date.
    >
    > That was just the tip of the extremely disgusting iceberg.
    >
    > And years later, my MIL, a prime example of Darwin's Hammer, was
    > offended when I declined to leave our infant daughter with her for
    > overnight visits.


    Realize that many of those a "best by" dates, not expiration or safety
    related dates, particularly for stuff like salad dressing.

  17. #17
    Kathleen Guest

    Default Re: Shelf life

    Pete C. wrote:

    > Kathleen wrote:
    >
    >>Wayne Boatwright wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>On Sat 13 Dec 2008 05:20:45p, SteveB told us...
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>My wife and mother in law (I see where my wife got it) have the idea
    >>>>that if you put something in the refrigerator, there is no such thing as
    >>>>shelf life.
    >>>>
    >>>>"Well, it's been in the refrigerator," is the common answer to "Is this
    >>>>good?"
    >>>>
    >>>>I finally made a rule that if you can't tell me when it was cooked, I
    >>>>won't eat it................ Oh, I cooked that last week some time
    >>>>.............. Was it Thursday, or the Thursday before .........
    >>>>
    >>>>I'm telling you, we went through the Clorox wipes thing after she saw it
    >>>>on Oprah, and wiped down everything in the kitchen if so much as a fly
    >>>>landed on anything in the kitchen including the ceiling, but she will
    >>>>leave chicken to thaw from 7 AM to 4 PM in the sink at 70 F.
    >>>>
    >>>>I need to get ahold of Oprah and have her do a show on shelf life and
    >>>>kitchen safety re: foods.
    >>>>
    >>>>I mean, it can have brown mold on it, be unrecognizable, and she will
    >>>>still say, "I don't understand it. It's been in the refrigerator."
    >>>>
    >>>>Help me out. I've tried explaining it. Some good sites that I could
    >>>>send to her friends, and they could forward to her (she won't believe it
    >>>>if it comes from me, but her friends and Oprah are Goddesses).
    >>>>
    >>>>Steve
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>Perhaps if you can't convince your wife that virtually foods have a shelf
    >>>life, refrigerated or not, that you will have to assign *her* a shelf life.
    >>>:-)
    >>>

    >>
    >>Either that or stage midnight command raids on the fridge, eliminating
    >>suspect foods.
    >>
    >>I'll never forget being invited to dinner at my future parent-in-laws
    >>house and being offered previously opened bottled salad dressings that
    >>were FIVE YEARS out of date.
    >>
    >>That was just the tip of the extremely disgusting iceberg.
    >>
    >>And years later, my MIL, a prime example of Darwin's Hammer, was
    >>offended when I declined to leave our infant daughter with her for
    >>overnight visits.

    >
    >
    > Realize that many of those a "best by" dates, not expiration or safety
    > related dates, particularly for stuff like salad dressing.


    Realize a bottle of cheap-ass supermarket bottled dressing might cost,
    what three bucks? And when you take the lid off of a bottle of
    something that's supposed to be "creamy" and there's a plug of congealed
    god knows what in the neck, maybe it's time to take the "Best By" date
    to heart.


  18. #18
    Kathleen Guest

    Default Re: Shelf life

    SteveB wrote:

    > "Melba's Jammin'" <[email protected]> wrote
    >
    >
    >>Tell her that refrigeration does not prevent spoilage; it only delays it.
    >>

    >
    >
    > BTDT.
    >
    >


    Try replacing the term "spoilage" with "rot", "decay", or "decompose".

    Those verbs tend to convey the concept a little more efficiently.


  19. #19
    Omelet Guest

    Default Re: Shelf life

    In article <49453d05$0$28008$[email protected] .com>,
    "Pete C." <[email protected]> wrote:

    > SteveB wrote:
    > >
    > > My wife and mother in law (I see where my wife got it) have the idea that if
    > > you put something in the refrigerator, there is no such thing as shelf life.
    > >
    > > "Well, it's been in the refrigerator," is the common answer to "Is this
    > > good?"
    > >
    > > I finally made a rule that if you can't tell me when it was cooked, I won't
    > > eat it................ Oh, I cooked that last week some time ..............
    > > Was it Thursday, or the Thursday before .........
    > >
    > > I'm telling you, we went through the Clorox wipes thing after she saw it on
    > > Oprah, and wiped down everything in the kitchen if so much as a fly landed
    > > on anything in the kitchen including the ceiling, but she will leave chicken
    > > to thaw from 7 AM to 4 PM in the sink at 70 F.
    > >
    > > I need to get ahold of Oprah and have her do a show on shelf life and
    > > kitchen safety re: foods.
    > >
    > > I mean, it can have brown mold on it, be unrecognizable, and she will still
    > > say, "I don't understand it. It's been in the refrigerator."
    > >
    > > Help me out. I've tried explaining it. Some good sites that I could send to
    > > her friends, and they could forward to her (she won't believe it if it comes
    > > from me, but her friends and Oprah are Goddesses).
    > >
    > > Steve

    >
    > If it's been in the freezer at 0 or below, and it was good when it went
    > in, then it *is* still good, at least from a safety perspective. Not so
    > if it's in the refrigerator.


    People in Siberia have eaten Mammoth that's been frozen for several
    thousand years...

    Or so it's been rumored.

    A google for that turned up mixed results. <g>

    I personally set a limit of two years without copious trimming. I detest
    the taste of freezer burn!
    --
    Peace! Om

    "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

  20. #20
    Pete C. Guest

    Default Re: Shelf life


    Kathleen wrote:
    >
    > Pete C. wrote:
    >
    > > Kathleen wrote:
    > >
    > >>Wayne Boatwright wrote:
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>>On Sat 13 Dec 2008 05:20:45p, SteveB told us...
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>>My wife and mother in law (I see where my wife got it) have the idea
    > >>>>that if you put something in the refrigerator, there is no such thing as
    > >>>>shelf life.
    > >>>>
    > >>>>"Well, it's been in the refrigerator," is the common answer to "Is this
    > >>>>good?"
    > >>>>
    > >>>>I finally made a rule that if you can't tell me when it was cooked, I
    > >>>>won't eat it................ Oh, I cooked that last week some time
    > >>>>.............. Was it Thursday, or the Thursday before .........
    > >>>>
    > >>>>I'm telling you, we went through the Clorox wipes thing after she saw it
    > >>>>on Oprah, and wiped down everything in the kitchen if so much as a fly
    > >>>>landed on anything in the kitchen including the ceiling, but she will
    > >>>>leave chicken to thaw from 7 AM to 4 PM in the sink at 70 F.
    > >>>>
    > >>>>I need to get ahold of Oprah and have her do a show on shelf life and
    > >>>>kitchen safety re: foods.
    > >>>>
    > >>>>I mean, it can have brown mold on it, be unrecognizable, and she will
    > >>>>still say, "I don't understand it. It's been in the refrigerator."
    > >>>>
    > >>>>Help me out. I've tried explaining it. Some good sites that I could
    > >>>>send to her friends, and they could forward to her (she won't believe it
    > >>>>if it comes from me, but her friends and Oprah are Goddesses).
    > >>>>
    > >>>>Steve
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>Perhaps if you can't convince your wife that virtually foods have a shelf
    > >>>life, refrigerated or not, that you will have to assign *her* a shelf life.
    > >>>:-)
    > >>>
    > >>
    > >>Either that or stage midnight command raids on the fridge, eliminating
    > >>suspect foods.
    > >>
    > >>I'll never forget being invited to dinner at my future parent-in-laws
    > >>house and being offered previously opened bottled salad dressings that
    > >>were FIVE YEARS out of date.
    > >>
    > >>That was just the tip of the extremely disgusting iceberg.
    > >>
    > >>And years later, my MIL, a prime example of Darwin's Hammer, was
    > >>offended when I declined to leave our infant daughter with her for
    > >>overnight visits.

    > >
    > >
    > > Realize that many of those a "best by" dates, not expiration or safety
    > > related dates, particularly for stuff like salad dressing.

    >
    > Realize a bottle of cheap-ass supermarket bottled dressing might cost,
    > what three bucks? And when you take the lid off of a bottle of
    > something that's supposed to be "creamy" and there's a plug of congealed
    > god knows what in the neck, maybe it's time to take the "Best By" date
    > to heart.


    Yea, that's pretty nasty.

    I don't normally do the creamy type dressings other than Marie's Super
    Blue. For the Super Blue, I generally don't go more than a week past the
    "best by" date. For other vinaigrette type dressings that stay in the
    refrigerator, a year past the "best by" date isn't going to bother me.
    Nothing gets older than that since I try to clean the fridge at least
    once a year, putting everything in coolers while I clean the fridge and
    shelves and then checking dates as I put things back.

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