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    john reed Guest

    Default shed storage below freezing

    The temperature around here at the moment is below freezing. Will it hurt
    bottles of wine to be stood out in our shed below freezing? I'm wondering
    how low the temperature can go before either the wine is affected or the
    bottles fracture?



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    Huge Guest

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    On 2010-12-21, john reed <[email protected]> wrote:
    > The temperature around here at the moment is below freezing. Will it hurt
    > bottles of wine to be stood out in our shed below freezing? I'm wondering
    > how low the temperature can go before either the wine is affected or the
    > bottles fracture?


    ~ -7 deg C.


    --
    Today is Setting Orange, the 63rd day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3176
    "If you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people."

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    Alan Braggins Guest

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    In article <ieq276$gog$[email protected]>, john reed wrote:
    >The temperature around here at the moment is below freezing. Will it hurt
    >bottles of wine to be stood out in our shed below freezing? I'm wondering
    >how low the temperature can go before either the wine is affected or the
    >bottles fracture?


    I don't know, but I can tell you that our doorstep was cold enough for
    milk to freeze and fracture the bottles between the milkman leaving it
    and 7am.
    Presumably the higher the alcohol content the lower wine will go without
    freezing, but I don't know if the taste will be affected before then.
    You can make alcoholic sorbets though, so it should be edible even if
    frozen (but not if it has fractured glass in, obviously).

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    James Bendall Guest

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    On 21/12/2010 11:14, john reed wrote:
    > The temperature around here at the moment is below freezing. Will it hurt
    > bottles of wine to be stood out in our shed below freezing? I'm wondering
    > how low the temperature can go before either the wine is affected or the
    > bottles fracture?


    There's a certain number of homebrewers who freeze their wine on purpose
    as it's meant to mature quicker.

    Can't speak from experience though.

    --
    James


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    Huge Guest

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    On 2010-12-21, James Bendall <[email protected]> wrote:
    > On 21/12/2010 11:14, john reed wrote:
    >> The temperature around here at the moment is below freezing. Will it hurt
    >> bottles of wine to be stood out in our shed below freezing? I'm wondering
    >> how low the temperature can go before either the wine is affected or the
    >> bottles fracture?

    >
    > There's a certain number of homebrewers who freeze their wine on purpose


    But not in glass bottles ...

    --
    Today is Setting Orange, the 63rd day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3176
    "If you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people."

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    TheOldFellow Guest

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    On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 11:14:22 -0000
    "john reed" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > The temperature around here at the moment is below freezing. Will it
    > hurt bottles of wine to be stood out in our shed below freezing? I'm
    > wondering how low the temperature can go before either the wine is
    > affected or the bottles fracture?
    >
    >


    If it ruined, you could try freeze-distilled brandy. It's dangerous
    though as unlike boiling distillation it concentrate the poisonous oils.

    R.


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    dennis@home Guest

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    "James Bendall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:4d10944b$1$7554$[email protected]..
    > On 21/12/2010 11:14, john reed wrote:
    >> The temperature around here at the moment is below freezing. Will it hurt
    >> bottles of wine to be stood out in our shed below freezing? I'm
    >> wondering
    >> how low the temperature can go before either the wine is affected or the
    >> bottles fracture?

    >
    > There's a certain number of homebrewers who freeze their wine on purpose
    > as it's meant to mature quicker.
    >
    > Can't speak from experience though.


    If you part freeze it and remove the ice it should leave the alcohol behind
    and make it stronger.
    I don't think it will mature faster frozen.
    >
    > --
    > James
    >


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    dennis@home Guest

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    "Huge" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On 2010-12-21, James Bendall <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> On 21/12/2010 11:14, john reed wrote:
    >>> The temperature around here at the moment is below freezing. Will it
    >>> hurt
    >>> bottles of wine to be stood out in our shed below freezing? I'm
    >>> wondering
    >>> how low the temperature can go before either the wine is affected or the
    >>> bottles fracture?

    >>
    >> There's a certain number of homebrewers who freeze their wine on purpose

    >
    > But not in glass bottles ...


    Champaign is deliberately frozen in glass bottles.
    >
    > --
    > Today is Setting Orange, the 63rd day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3176
    > "If you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious
    > people."



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    John Walliker Guest

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    On Dec 21, 3:13*pm, "dennis@home" <den...@killspam.kicks-ass.net>
    wrote:

    >
    > > But not in glass bottles ...

    >
    > Champaign is deliberately frozen in glass bottles.
    >


    I once kept wine in an old fridge in the shed during the summer. When
    winter came and the thermostat turned out to be broken, the
    temperature dropped. At -5 deg C there was no sign of freezing, even
    after several weeks, but when the temperature suddenly fell to -10 deg
    C the wine froze to a slush which pushed the corks sometimes partly
    and sometimes fully out of the bottles without breaking them. Screw
    tops bulged up and in some cases came off completely. A bit messy,
    but no damage was done and the wine was still perfectly drinkable
    afterwards - most of it remained as the bottles had been upright.

    John

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    The Medway Handyman Guest

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    john reed wrote:
    > The temperature around here at the moment is below freezing. Will it
    > hurt bottles of wine to be stood out in our shed below freezing? I'm
    > wondering how low the temperature can go before either the wine is
    > affected or the bottles fracture?


    Slighly more DIY :-) I've had a tub of one strike filler & a tube of no
    nails freeze up in the van during this cold spell.


    --
    Dave - The Medway Handyman
    www.medwayhandyman.co.uk



  11. #11
    Ross@home Guest

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    On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 15:13:36 -0000, "dennis@home"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >
    >"Huge" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]..
    >> On 2010-12-21, James Bendall <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> On 21/12/2010 11:14, john reed wrote:
    >>>> The temperature around here at the moment is below freezing. Will it
    >>>> hurt
    >>>> bottles of wine to be stood out in our shed below freezing? I'm
    >>>> wondering
    >>>> how low the temperature can go before either the wine is affected or the
    >>>> bottles fracture?
    >>>
    >>> There's a certain number of homebrewers who freeze their wine on purpose

    >>
    >> But not in glass bottles ...

    >
    >Champaign is deliberately frozen in glass bottles.


    Just the neck of the bottle is frozen for the purpose of disgorgement.

    Ross.

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    Steve Pope Guest

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    "john reed" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > The temperature around here at the moment is below freezing. Will it
    > hurt bottles of wine to be stood out in our shed below freezing? I'm
    > wondering how low the temperature can go before either the wine is
    > affected or the bottles fracture?


    Don't let 'em freee.

    Ideal is wine stored between 40 and 65 degrees F, with no rapid
    temperature change within that range. Freezing is more damaging
    than high temps up to around 80 F. Something like a service porch,
    entryway or similar that has some of the warmth of your main
    residence is better than the freezing shed. Insulating material
    around the cases of wine is a good idea, to keep it steady.

    Steve

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