Thread: SF/Berkeley visit

Cheryl wrote:

> We ate dinner last night at HS Lordships at the Berkeley Marina and it was
> really good. Except for the lobster tail my niece got, but we're East
> coasters and used to Maine lobster and nothing compares.

Although I've lived on the West Coast since 1987, I agree that Maine lobster
is the best. The Pacific Northwest has some great seafood, but lobster isn't
its strong point.


> for a starter, French onion soup that was divine.

Damn. Now I'm jonesing for the French onion soup I made for New Year's Eve.
The onions had been deglazed again and again, sometimes with Madeira and
sometimes with duck stock. It was the best soup I've ever had -- not just
the best ONION soup, I mean it was the best soup PERIOD.


> Our waiter said the tides have been coming in higher lately.

Naturally, because of the melting polar ice caps!


> A wonderful visit, good friends and family, both new and old and those we
> rarely see. And the B&B has been a great experience. Wow, I sound like
> an advertisement for SF/Berkeley. LOL

Did you mention which B&B you stayed? It might make for a nice overnight for
Lin and me.

Bob

Sorry, pass.

Just more bibliophlys waiting and wanting a crass supremacy of style.

Have a nice day
--
JL


Cheryl wrote:

> Sorry to say my visit ends tonight because we have to be at the Oakland
> airport at 4:30am. We had a wonderful visit and the wedding at the Rose
> Garden was really great. It's been pretty cold up until today, and
> during the wedding we sat in full sun, no breeze, and I almost melted.
> lol My cousin's new wife is a keeper. We all approve. The fru fru food
> was really good and I tried everything. I didn't really like the cous
> cous, but that was the only thing. They walked some starters around and
> I tried everything except for something with a tomato because I don't
> like them raw. I took pictures of each tray and I might post them
> later, but my cousin was trying to help spread the word about his chef
> friend, so I'll definitely send the pics to him to post on the site he's
> working on for the chef.
>
> We ate dinner last night at HS Lordships at the Berkeley Marina and it
> was really good. Except for the lobster tail my niece got, but we're
> East coasters and used to Maine lobster and nothing compares. Niece
> didn't want to eat it, and they took it off of the bill. I had rare
> prime rib, sides and for a starter, French onion soup that was divine.
> The view of the bay was great and it was like sitting right on it at sun
> set with the fog rolling in, and high tide, too. Our waiter said the
> tides have been coming in higher lately.
>
> The rest of our meals were just grab as can get because we were more
> interested in the sight-seeing and visited the Redwoods at Muir Woods,
> Pier 39 at the Fishermans Wharf, Sausalito and a little shopping,
> Lombardo St and the windy road, GG bridge walk which I had to sit out
> because my back and knee are totally shot from all of the walking.
>
> A wonderful visit, good friends and family, both new and old and those
> we rarely see. And the B&B has been a great experience. Wow, I sound
> like an advertisement for SF/Berkeley. LOL
>
>
>


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On Jul 10, 10:59*pm, "Cheryl" <jlhsha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry to say my visit ends tonight because we have to be at the Oakland
> airport at 4:30am. *We had a wonderful visit and the wedding at the Rose
> Garden was really great. *It's been pretty cold up until today, and during
> the wedding we sat in full sun, no breeze, and I almost melted. *lol *My
> cousin's new wife is a keeper. We all approve. *The fru fru food was really
> good and I tried everything. *I didn't really like the cous cous, but that
> was the only thing. *They walked some starters around and I tried everything
> except for something with a tomato because I don't like them raw. *I took
> pictures of each tray and I might post them later, but my cousin was trying
> to help spread the word about his chef friend, so I'll definitely send the
> pics to him to post on the site he's working on for the chef.
>
> We ate dinner last night at HS Lordships at the Berkeley Marina and it was
> really good. *Except for the lobster tail my niece got, but we're East
> coasters and used to Maine lobster and nothing compares. * Niece didn'twant
> to eat it, and they took it off of the bill. *I had rare prime rib, sides
> and for a starter, French onion soup that was divine. *The view of the bay
> was great and it was like sitting right on it at sun set with the fog
> rolling in, and high tide, too. *Our waiter said the tides have been coming
> in higher lately.
>
> The rest of our meals were just grab as can get because we were more
> interested in the sight-seeing and visited the Redwoods at Muir Woods, Pier
> 39 at the Fishermans Wharf, Sausalito and a little shopping, *Lombardo St
> and the windy road, GG bridge walk which I had to sit out because my back
> and knee are totally shot from all of the walking.
>
> A wonderful visit, good friends and family, both new and old and those we
> rarely see. *And the B&B has been a great experience. *Wow, I sound like an
> advertisement for SF/Berkeley. *LOL

Ah, I remember the original thread and am so glad the wedding weekend
was a success...recall several of us suggested you dress in
layers...the Berkeley Rose Garden was one of my favorite haunts - so
pretty this time of year.

Gosh, Hs Lordships has been there forever - well at least it was
already there when I was in college, and I'm no spring chicken. It
was expensive, one of the Bay Area's nicest restaurants back in the
day, and you always knew a date was "serious" when he scraped together
the $ to take you there...more than one of my friends was proposed to
there as the sun set over the Bay - very romantic.

Nancy T

On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 01:59:40 -0400, "Cheryl" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Sorry to say my visit ends tonight because we have to be at the Oakland
>airport at 4:30am. We had a wonderful visit and the wedding at the Rose
>Garden was really great.

snippage of a great time.

Sounds like you ate good and enjoyed your family. I'm looking forward
to the photos.

Thanks for sharing Cheryl.

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Cheryl <[email protected]> wrote:

[snip]

> A wonderful visit, good friends and family, both new and
> old and those we rarely see. And the B&B has been a great
> experience. Wow, I sound like an advertisement for SF/Berkeley.
> LOL

I'm glad you had a good visit to the five-one-oh. Us homies
appreciate it!

Steve

"JL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:377d2$4c396677$42357ae4$[email protected]. .

> Sorry, pass.
>
> Just more bibliophlys waiting and wanting a crass supremacy of style.
>

What exactly are you trying to say, Joe? It looks sort of insulting to me,
but I can't tell for sure.

> Have a nice day

I did! Hope you did too!

"Bob Terwilliger" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote in message
news:4c396240$0$9316$c3e8da3@news.astraweb[email protected]..
> Cheryl wrote:

>
> Damn. Now I'm jonesing for the French onion soup I made for New Year's
> Eve.
> The onions had been deglazed again and again, sometimes with Madeira and
> sometimes with duck stock. It was the best soup I've ever had -- not just
> the best ONION soup, I mean it was the best soup PERIOD.
>
I have yet to make a good onion soup myself so I enjoy it when prepared well
by others. My mom makes a really good creamy onion soup.

>
>> Our waiter said the tides have been coming in higher lately.
>
> Naturally, because of the melting polar ice caps!
>
>
Ok, duh! Thanks for pointing that out because on the east coast I wouldn't
expect that. Maybe it happens, but I hadn't thought about the effect.

>> A wonderful visit, good friends and family, both new and old and those we
>> rarely see. And the B&B has been a great experience. Wow, I sound like
>> an advertisement for SF/Berkeley. LOL
>
> Did you mention which B&B you stayed? It might make for a nice overnight
> for
> Lin and me.
>
I did, to Chris. It was the Rose Garden Inn on Telegraph Ave, not far from
Ashby. Everyone there was so great and accommodating, especially since we
were on east coast time, so were up really early. They serve a nice buffet
style breakfast with everything you could want, though simple food. Cereal,
eggs, bacon, sausage, waffles/toast/muffins, juice, milk, great coffee, tea.
The only thing I didn't like was that they had gas fireplaces in almost
every room of the common areas, so our room one flight up was pretty hot
even when it was cold outside[1]. The garden was beautiful and we enjoyed
watching the hummingbirds while we drank coffee.

[1]
Cold being a relative term since we flew out of 100+F temps here, and the
first 3 days were fairly chilly to me. Saturday and the wedding was perfect
weather but down in the Rose Garden the air was still, so it felt hotter
than it really was.

"ntantiques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> A wonderful visit, good friends and family, both new and old and those we
>> rarely see. And the B&B has been a great experience. Wow, I sound like
>> an
>> advertisement for SF/Berkeley. LOL
>
> Ah, I remember the original thread and am so glad the wedding weekend
> was a success...recall several of us suggested you dress in
> layers...the Berkeley Rose Garden was one of my favorite haunts - so
> pretty this time of year.

Yup, and I appreciated those suggestions. My dress for the wedding, though,
was mostly lace and warm-weather friendly. We dressed in layers for the
site-seeing and the drives. We noted that the Rose Garden wasn't really
blooming well. It looked unkempt. My mom said she read that funds were cut
to keep it up, and it showed. Everything was badly in need of water and
trimming.

>
> Gosh, Hs Lordships has been there forever - well at least it was
> already there when I was in college, and I'm no spring chicken. It
> was expensive, one of the Bay Area's nicest restaurants back in the
> day, and you always knew a date was "serious" when he scraped together
> the $ to take you there...more than one of my friends was proposed to
> there as the sun set over the Bay - very romantic.
>

) I'll bet! It wasn't really busy there. I made reservations in the
morning of Friday, but the room they seated us in was mostly empty at 7pm.
There were a good many cars there, so it seems they spread people out.

"koko" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 01:59:40 -0400, "Cheryl" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>Sorry to say my visit ends tonight because we have to be at the Oakland
>>airport at 4:30am. We had a wonderful visit and the wedding at the Rose
>>Garden was really great.
>
> snippage of a great time.
>
> Sounds like you ate good and enjoyed your family. I'm looking forward
> to the photos.
>
I'll try to share some tonight or tomorrow. If I can't, it will be soon.
There are some I'd like to share.

"Steve Pope" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:i1cr7s$e12$[email protected]..
> Cheryl <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>> A wonderful visit, good friends and family, both new and
>> old and those we rarely see. And the B&B has been a great
>> experience. Wow, I sound like an advertisement for SF/Berkeley.
>> LOL
>
> I'm glad you had a good visit to the five-one-oh. Us homies
> appreciate it!

It was quite eclectic. The first night we were there we wanted to walk
somewhere close and find some dinner. Some restaurants were closed and it
was early. Then all we kept finding were Indian and Thai food and I can't
eat either due to the spices. We settled on an Italian place run by Chinese
and no one was impressed. I liked the prawns I had, though. We noticed
everywhere had bathrooms locked up tight and only available to paying
customers. I don't think I've seen that in restaurants here where the
bathrooms required keys. But it wasn't about the food there. For me. It
was the culture. And the arts. We saw some interesting vehicles - sort of
home made campers. One had teeth. One looked like it belonged to Fred
Sanford.

We saw a guy yelling at an old homeless man, telling him to "get out of my
neighborhood and you know I'll make you. We don't want you here".... We
thought it was a shop keeper, but it wasn't. Are there like turf wars or
something? LOL!

Cheryl wrote:

>>> Our waiter said the tides have been coming in higher lately.
>>
>> Naturally, because of the melting polar ice caps!
>>
> Ok, duh! Thanks for pointing that out because on the east coast I
> wouldn't expect that. Maybe it happens, but I hadn't thought about the
> effect.

No, no, I was kidding! (I don't want you going around telling people that
the high tides in California were caused by the melting ice caps!) Higher
tides (called "spring" high tides, even though they don't necessarily occur
during springtime) are actually caused by the moon's being at its closest
point in its orbit around the earth.


> I did, to Chris. It was the Rose Garden Inn on Telegraph Ave, not far
> from Ashby.

I'll keep it in mind for next time Lin and I have reason to stay overnight
in that area. Thanks!

Bob

In article <15d_n.7090$[email protected]>,
"Cheryl" <[email protected]> wrote:

> The rest of our meals were just grab as can get because we were more
> interested in the sight-seeing and visited the Redwoods at Muir Woods, Pier
> 39 at the Fishermans Wharf, Sausalito and a little shopping, Lombardo St
> and the windy road, GG bridge walk which I had to sit out because my back
> and knee are totally shot from all of the walking.
>
> A wonderful visit, good friends and family, both new and old and those we
> rarely see. And the B&B has been a great experience. Wow, I sound like an
> advertisement for SF/Berkeley. LOL

Sounds like you had a wonderful time. :-)
What did you think of the coastal redwoods?
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"Omelet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> What did you think of the coastal redwoods?

I had no idea that their roots are only about 6' deep and the only way they
are supported is because the roots spread out wide. Isn't that amazing?

In article <Q8v_n.27305$[email protected]>,
"Cheryl" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Omelet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news[email protected]..
>
> > What did you think of the coastal redwoods?
>
> I had no idea that their roots are only about 6' deep and the only way they
> are supported is because the roots spread out wide. Isn't that amazing?

They are indeed... especially considering the size of the seeds they
start from! ;-)
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"Omelet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article <Q8v_n.27305$[email protected]>,
> "Cheryl" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news[email protected]..
>>
>> > What did you think of the coastal redwoods?
>>
>> I had no idea that their roots are only about 6' deep and the only way
>> they
>> are supported is because the roots spread out wide. Isn't that amazing?
>
> They are indeed... especially considering the size of the seeds they
> start from! ;-)
> --
> Peace! Om
>

Not to compare with the redwoods (which I saw as a young girl when I lived
in CA), there's a 400 year old live oak tree here on the island where I
live. It's huge, and the branches seem to go on forever. It's dripping
with Spanish moss, of course It's located in an 18th century cemetery.
It's a gorgeous old tree.

Jill

On Jul 11, 4:59 pm, "Cheryl" <jlhsha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> (snipped)
>
> Yup, and I appreciated those suggestions. My dress for the wedding, though,
> was mostly lace and warm-weather friendly. We dressed in layers for the
> site-seeing and the drives. We noted that the Rose Garden wasn't really
> blooming well. It looked unkempt. My mom said she read that funds were cut
> to keep it up, and it showed. Everything was badly in need of water and
> trimming.

Am sorry to hear that this lovely public garden is having a tough
time, but with the drought and CA budget problems, I guess it's not
surprising. In this economy, at budget time it's tough enough for
people, much less plants or animals.

> > Gosh, Hs Lordships has been there forever - well at least it was
> > already there when I was in college, and I'm no spring chicken. It
> > was expensive, one of the Bay Area's nicest restaurants back in the
> > day, and you always knew a date was "serious" when he scraped together
> > the $ to take you there...more than one of my friends was proposed to
> > there as the sun set over the Bay - very romantic.
>
> ) I'll bet! It wasn't really busy there. I made reservations in the
> morning of Friday, but the room they seated us in was mostly empty at 7pm.
> There were a good many cars there, so it seems they spread people out.

Hs Lordship's is bigger than you might think and they used to do a
huge banquet/wedding business - possibly the key to their longevity.
They haven't really changed the decor or the menu since the late
1960's - before the whole Alice Waters/Chez Panisse "foodie" movement.
Somehow they've managed to outlive most of their waterfront neighbors
and survive in spite of the explosion of serious restaurant
competition in the East Bay. Maybe it's the onion soup? A 40+ year run
for any restaurant is pretty remarkable if you ask me.

Nancy T (God, this makes me feel ancient)

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"jmcquown" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Omelet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news[email protected]..
> > In article <Q8v_n.27305$[email protected]>,
> > "Cheryl" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> "Omelet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news[email protected]..
> >>
> >> > What did you think of the coastal redwoods?
> >>
> >> I had no idea that their roots are only about 6' deep and the only way
> >> they
> >> are supported is because the roots spread out wide. Isn't that amazing?
> >
> > They are indeed... especially considering the size of the seeds they
> > start from! ;-)
> > --
> > Peace! Om
> >
>
> Not to compare with the redwoods (which I saw as a young girl when I lived
> in CA), there's a 400 year old live oak tree here on the island where I
> live. It's huge, and the branches seem to go on forever. It's dripping
> with Spanish moss, of course It's located in an 18th century cemetery.
> It's a gorgeous old tree.
>
> Jill

Old oak trees are very magical. :-)
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 23:26:26 -0500, Omelet <[email protected]>
wrote:

>In article <Q8v_n.27305$[email protected]>,
> "Cheryl" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news[email protected]..
>>
>> > What did you think of the coastal redwoods?
>>
>> I had no idea that their roots are only about 6' deep and the only way they
>> are supported is because the roots spread out wide. Isn't that amazing?
>
>They are indeed...

Most all trees have shallow root systems... relatively few have tap
roots and of those few that would have tap roots it's rather rare they
develop very much if at all.

http://www.snwa.com/html/land_trees_roots.html

http://www.tlcfortrees.info/tree_root_myths.htm

What's amazing is that trees suvive at all where most people live.