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  1. #1
    Hoges in WA Guest

    Default Serious question about new people

    This bugs me a bit.

    How come I see "Hi, I'm new here" or similar followed by welcomes from half
    a dozen of the nice welcoming types here plus a few snipes from others so
    inclined and I never ever see a post from the new person ever again?

    It can't be something I've filtered out or I wouldn't see the first one.

    I don't have accurate figures but I really can't remember one that I've seen
    twice. Not even responding to stuff that's posted in response to their
    first message. Or questions asked in the responses to their first post.

    Curious I am.

    Hoges in WA
    (now retired and with far too much time on his hands)



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  2. #2
    Dave Smith Guest

    Default Re: Serious question about new people

    Hoges in WA wrote:
    > This bugs me a bit.
    >
    > How come I see "Hi, I'm new here" or similar followed by welcomes from half
    > a dozen of the nice welcoming types here plus a few snipes from others so
    > inclined and I never ever see a post from the new person ever again?



    Perhaps that explains the snipes. Many of those who come in and announce
    themselves are trolling or pushing their websites.

  3. #3
    ImStillMags Guest

    Default Re: Serious question about new people

    On Jul 19, 6:20*pm, "Hoges in WA" <tzhogan...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
    > This bugs me a bit.
    >
    > How come I see "Hi, I'm new here" or similar followed by welcomes from half
    > a dozen of the nice welcoming types here plus a few snipes from others so
    > inclined and I never ever see a post from the new person ever again?
    >
    > It can't be something I've filtered out or I wouldn't see the first one.
    >
    > I don't have accurate figures but I really can't remember one that I've seen
    > twice. *Not even responding to stuff that's posted in response to their
    > first message. *Or questions asked in the responses to their first post..
    >
    > Curious I am.
    >
    > Hoges in WA
    > (now retired and with far too much time on his hands)
    >
    > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5293 (20100719) __________
    >
    > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
    >
    > http://www.eset.com


    I did one of those hi I'm new here posts when I first joined this
    group. I've been posting here for almost a year now.

    I was a bit surprised at how suspicious people were of a 'newbie'.

  4. #4
    PL Guest

    Default Re: Serious question about new people

    "Hoges in WA" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:0S61o.1236$[email protected] nd.com:

    > This bugs me a bit.
    >
    > How come I see "Hi, I'm new here" or similar followed by welcomes from
    > half a dozen of the nice welcoming types here plus a few snipes from
    > others so inclined and I never ever see a post from the new person ever
    > again?
    >
    > It can't be something I've filtered out or I wouldn't see the first one.
    >
    > I don't have accurate figures but I really can't remember one that I've
    > seen twice. Not even responding to stuff that's posted in response to
    > their first message. Or questions asked in the responses to their first
    > post.
    >
    > Curious I am.



    :-)

    If you look at the email addresses of most of them, they come from a
    website called "foodbanter" which apparently copies all of rfc's posts
    onto its site.

    99.9999% of the 'newbies' with 'foodbanter' say "Hallo, I'm new here" ask
    a question and then are never heard from again.

    It'd be alright if they stuck around.


    >
    > Hoges in WA
    > (now retired and with far too much time on his hands)




    Welcome to retirement :-)

    Get yourself a hobby, or a part-time job........ after you've spent a year
    or so fishing all over the place.

    I find I'm busier now that when I was working!!

    But then, I've been retired for 20 years, so have had a bit of practice at
    what, and what not, to do :-)

    --
    Peter Lucas
    Brisbane
    Australia

    I didn't fight my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.

  5. #5
    Sqwertz Guest

    Default Re: Serious question about new people

    On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:20:56 +0800, Hoges in WA wrote:

    > How come I see "Hi, I'm new here" or similar followed by welcomes from half
    > a dozen of the nice welcoming types here plus a few snipes from others so
    > inclined and I never ever see a post from the new person ever again?


    98% of the people who introduce themselves never come back. The
    key phrase is "looking forward to". If you see that, then it's
    some sort of social experiment (or just a only regular
    poster/troll). Those are the most common kinds.

    Other people that take the time to say something else are
    semi-genuine - y9ou know - they get this temporary cooking bug
    with nothing better to do that night and they post an intro. But
    still never to be seen again in most cases.

    > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5293 (20100719) __________
    >
    > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
    >
    > http://www.eset.com


    We really don't need to see that you've scanned a text message for
    outgoing viruses. Anybody ever got a virus from reading RFC?
    (personal contact with RFC'ers is a different story, but feel free
    to answer that, too)

    -sw

  6. #6
    jmcquown Guest

    Default Re: Serious question about new people

    "ImStillMags" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    On Jul 19, 6:20 pm, "Hoges in WA" <tzhogan...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
    > This bugs me a bit.
    >
    > How come I see "Hi, I'm new here" or similar followed by welcomes from
    > half
    > a dozen of the nice welcoming types here plus a few snipes from others so
    > inclined and I never ever see a post from the new person ever again?
    >
    > It can't be something I've filtered out or I wouldn't see the first one.
    >
    > I don't have accurate figures but I really can't remember one that I've
    > seen
    > twice. Not even responding to stuff that's posted in response to their
    > first message. Or questions asked in the responses to their first post.
    >
    > Curious I am.
    >
    > Hoges in WA
    > (now retired and with far too much time on his hands)
    >

    I did one of those hi I'm new here posts when I first joined this
    group. I've been posting here for almost a year now.

    I was a bit surprised at how suspicious people were of a 'newbie'.

    ************************************************** ********
    Well, for the reasons Dave Smith noted, there are a lot of trolls and
    spammers. You can count on some folks to keep egging the trolls on. And
    some people just have to inform the spammers that spamming isn't welcome.
    The fact is, when some people jump in with "Hi!" and introduce themselves
    they're either trying to start a flame ware or tout their website.
    Thankfully you weren't one of those people

    Jill


  7. #7
    Nancy Young Guest

    Default Re: Serious question about new people

    ImStillMags wrote:

    > I did one of those hi I'm new here posts when I first joined this
    > group. I've been posting here for almost a year now.
    >
    > I was a bit surprised at how suspicious people were of a 'newbie'.


    Heh, that's funny. Now you know why. I can't count how many
    times someone's introduced themselves, never to be seen again.
    I take a wait-and-see attitude, I guess.

    nancy

  8. #8
    Nancy Young Guest

    Default Re: Serious question about new people

    Hoges in WA wrote:
    > This bugs me a bit.
    >
    > How come I see "Hi, I'm new here" or similar followed by welcomes
    > from half
    > a dozen of the nice welcoming types here plus a few snipes from
    > others so
    > inclined and I never ever see a post from the new person ever again?
    >
    > It can't be something I've filtered out or I wouldn't see the first
    > one.
    >
    > I don't have accurate figures but I really can't remember one that
    > I've seen
    > twice. Not even responding to stuff that's posted in response to
    > their
    > first message. Or questions asked in the responses to their first
    > post.


    As Dave said, sometimes they're trying to sell something and the
    Hi! post is just a way to post their website. Other times, I really
    don't know why they don't stick around, maybe all the warnings
    of how awful rfc is scares them off. Probably not.

    > Curious I am.
    >
    > Hoges in WA
    > (now retired and with far too much time on his hands)


    Congratulations! Lots of times I wonder how we ever got anything
    done before retiring. I've concluded that working was interfering
    with my lifestyle.

    nancy

  9. #9
    Andy Guest

    Default Re: Serious question about new people

    "Hoges in WA" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > How come I see "Hi, I'm new here" or similar followed by welcomes from
    > half a dozen of the nice welcoming types here plus a few snipes from
    > others so inclined and I never ever see a post from the new person
    > ever again?



    Way back in time, before blogs, etc., rfc was a lot more amicable to
    newcomers.

    Nowadays it's a crap shoot of character.

    Sad!

    Andy

  10. #10
    Pete C. Guest

    Default Re: Serious question about new people


    Hoges in WA wrote:
    >
    > This bugs me a bit.
    >
    > How come I see "Hi, I'm new here" or similar followed by welcomes from half
    > a dozen of the nice welcoming types here plus a few snipes from others so
    > inclined and I never ever see a post from the new person ever again?
    >
    > It can't be something I've filtered out or I wouldn't see the first one.
    >
    > I don't have accurate figures but I really can't remember one that I've seen
    > twice. Not even responding to stuff that's posted in response to their
    > first message. Or questions asked in the responses to their first post.


    Most of the time, particularly this time of the year, those "new here"
    posts are spam from bored kiddies out of school and too lazy to actually
    go out and do something. Usually the next few posts from that "new here"
    person are spam or other nonsense and they end up in the kill file.

  11. #11
    Steve B Guest

    Default Re: Serious question about new people


    "ImStillMags" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    On Jul 19, 6:20 pm, "Hoges in WA" <tzhogan...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
    > This bugs me a bit.
    >
    > How come I see "Hi, I'm new here" or similar followed by welcomes from
    > half
    > a dozen of the nice welcoming types here plus a few snipes from others so
    > inclined and I never ever see a post from the new person ever again?
    >
    > It can't be something I've filtered out or I wouldn't see the first one.
    >
    > I don't have accurate figures but I really can't remember one that I've
    > seen
    > twice. Not even responding to stuff that's posted in response to their
    > first message. Or questions asked in the responses to their first post.
    >
    > Curious I am.
    >
    > Hoges in WA
    > (now retired and with far too much time on his hands)
    >
    > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus
    > signature database 5293 (20100719) __________
    >
    > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
    >
    > http://www.eset.com


    I did one of those hi I'm new here posts when I first joined this
    group. I've been posting here for almost a year now.

    I was a bit surprised at how suspicious people were of a 'newbie'.

    that's nothing. i got the **** beat out of me.........



  12. #12
    Steve B Guest

    Default Re: Serious question about new people


    "Nancy Young" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:wn81o.35225$[email protected]..
    > ImStillMags wrote:
    >
    >> I did one of those hi I'm new here posts when I first joined this
    >> group. I've been posting here for almost a year now.
    >>
    >> I was a bit surprised at how suspicious people were of a 'newbie'.

    >
    > Heh, that's funny. Now you know why. I can't count how many
    > times someone's introduced themselves, never to be seen again. I take a
    > wait-and-see attitude, I guess.
    >
    > nancy


    Either that, or they judged themselves to be above some of the responders
    and just said who needs this?




  13. #13
    sf Guest

    Default Re: Serious question about new people

    On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:20:56 +0800, "Hoges in WA"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > This bugs me a bit.
    >
    > How come I see "Hi, I'm new here" or similar followed by welcomes from half
    > a dozen of the nice welcoming types here plus a few snipes from others so
    > inclined and I never ever see a post from the new person ever again?
    >
    > It can't be something I've filtered out or I wouldn't see the first one.
    >
    > I don't have accurate figures but I really can't remember one that I've seen
    > twice. Not even responding to stuff that's posted in response to their
    > first message. Or questions asked in the responses to their first post.
    >
    > Curious I am.
    >
    > Hoges in WA
    > (now retired and with far too much time on his hands)
    >

    What have you been doing with yourself for xx months Hoges?

    --

    Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get.

  14. #14
    sf Guest

    Default Re: Serious question about new people

    On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:55:45 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > I did one of those hi I'm new here posts when I first joined this
    > group.


    Did you figure out why yet?

    >I've been posting here for almost a year now.


    Really? It doesn't seem like that long. You're not a flash in the
    pan and I'm glad you're here... but one year? Wow. Time flies!


    --

    Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get.

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    Hoges in WA Guest

    Default Re: Serious question about new people


    "Sqwertz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    {snipped}
    __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus
    signature database 5293 (20100719) __________
    >>
    >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
    >>
    >> http://www.eset.com

    >
    > We really don't need to see that you've scanned a text message for
    > outgoing viruses. Anybody ever got a virus from reading RFC?
    > (personal contact with RFC'ers is a different story, but feel free
    > to answer that, too)
    >
    > -sw


    It does it automatically. Don't know why. NOD32 looks after my best
    interests so I pretty much let it do what it wants.
    hoges in wa



  16. #16
    Nancy Young Guest

    Default Re: Serious question about new people

    Steve B wrote:
    > "Nancy Young" <[email protected]> wrote


    >> ImStillMags wrote:
    >>
    >>> I did one of those hi I'm new here posts when I first joined this
    >>> group. I've been posting here for almost a year now.
    >>>
    >>> I was a bit surprised at how suspicious people were of a 'newbie'.

    >>
    >> Heh, that's funny. Now you know why. I can't count how many
    >> times someone's introduced themselves, never to be seen again. I
    >> take a wait-and-see attitude, I guess.


    > Either that, or they judged themselves to be above some of the
    > responders and just said who needs this?


    It's a mystery, but I don't think anyone can take it personally,
    that something they said made this new person back off.
    It's so predictable that sometimes I wonder if people forgot how
    they got here. Heh.

    nancy

  17. #17
    Gorio Guest

    Default Re: Serious question about new people


    Hoges in WA;1506986 Wrote:
    > This bugs me a bit.
    >
    > How come I see "Hi, I'm new here" or similar followed by welcomes from
    > half
    > a dozen of the nice welcoming types here plus a few snipes from others
    > so
    > inclined and I never ever see a post from the new person ever again?
    >
    > It can't be something I've filtered out or I wouldn't see the first
    > one.
    >
    > I don't have accurate figures but I really can't remember one that I've
    > seen
    > twice. Not even responding to stuff that's posted in response to their
    >
    > first message. Or questions asked in the responses to their first
    > post.
    >
    > Curious I am.
    >
    > Hoges in WA
    > (now retired and with far too much time on his hands)
    >
    >
    >
    > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus
    > signature database 5293 (20100719) __________
    >
    > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
    >
    > 'ESET - Antivirus Software with Spyware and Malware Protection'
    > (http://www.eset.com)


    I'll try to post more. JK, of course. Just getting acclimated around
    ehre.

    Greg




    --
    Gorio

  18. #18
    Zeppo Guest

    Default Re: Serious question about new people



    "Nancy Young" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:1Xg1o.37739$AS4.15244@hurricane...
    > Steve B wrote:
    >> "Nancy Young" <rjynlyord@comcast.[email protected]> wrote

    >
    >>> ImStillMags wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> I did one of those hi I'm new here posts when I first joined this
    >>>> group. I've been posting here for almost a year now.
    >>>>
    >>>> I was a bit surprised at how suspicious people were of a 'newbie'.
    >>>
    >>> Heh, that's funny. Now you know why. I can't count how many
    >>> times someone's introduced themselves, never to be seen again. I
    >>> take a wait-and-see attitude, I guess.

    >
    >> Either that, or they judged themselves to be above some of the
    >> responders and just said who needs this?

    >
    > It's a mystery, but I don't think anyone can take it personally,
    > that something they said made this new person back off. It's so
    > predictable that sometimes I wonder if people forgot how
    > they got here. Heh.
    >
    > nancy


    More than likely they lurked for a while, saw how much more noise there was
    than signal and decided it wasn't for them.

    We're not battle-hardened veterans for nothing, you know. :-)

    Jon


  19. #19
    Hoges in WA Guest

    Default Re: Serious question about new people


    "sf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:20:56 +0800, "Hoges in WA"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> This bugs me a bit.
    >>
    >> How come I see "Hi, I'm new here" or similar followed by welcomes from
    >> half
    >> a dozen of the nice welcoming types here plus a few snipes from others so
    >> inclined and I never ever see a post from the new person ever again?
    >>
    >> It can't be something I've filtered out or I wouldn't see the first one.
    >>
    >> I don't have accurate figures but I really can't remember one that I've
    >> seen
    >> twice. Not even responding to stuff that's posted in response to their
    >> first message. Or questions asked in the responses to their first post.
    >>
    >> Curious I am.
    >>
    >> Hoges in WA
    >> (now retired and with far too much time on his hands)
    >>

    > What have you been doing with yourself for xx months Hoges?
    >
    > --
    >
    > Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get.




    I've only been retired for 18 days so far



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    The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.

    http://www.eset.com





  20. #20
    Nancy Young Guest

    Default Re: Serious question about new people

    Zeppo wrote:
    > "Nancy Young" <[email protected]> wrote


    >> It's a mystery, but I don't think anyone can take it personally,
    >> that something they said made this new person back off. It's so
    >> predictable that sometimes I wonder if people forgot how
    >> they got here. Heh.


    > More than likely they lurked for a while, saw how much more noise
    > there was than signal and decided it wasn't for them.


    I don't think that's it at all, birthday boy. (laugh)

    Happy Birthday!

    > We're not battle-hardened veterans for nothing, you know. :-)


    That's right. This ain't no place for wusses.

    Actually, people get such nice welcomes, some people really
    try to make people feel at home, and they don't even get the
    courtesy of a response. That's why it bugs me. A little.

    nancy

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