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  1. #1
    Chemo Guest

    Default Re: for the SERIOUS cast iron cookware collector

    On Sep 10, 10:40*am, Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net> wrote:
    > You won't be able to live without these:
    >
    > http://www.ebay.com/itm/251147254788
    >
    > If they were left-handed, I'd considered bidding.


    The maker is unknown so I wonder how they know how old they are.

  2. #2
    notbob Guest

    Default Re: for the SERIOUS cast iron cookware collector

    On 2012-09-10, Mark Thorson <[email protected]> wrote:
    > You won't be able to live without these:


    Watch me!


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  3. #3
    Mark Thorson Guest

    Default for the SERIOUS cast iron cookware collector

    You won't be able to live without these:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/251147254788

    If they were left-handed, I'd considered bidding.

  4. #4
    Stu Guest

    Default Re: for the SERIOUS cast iron cookware collector

    On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:44:12 -0800, Mark Thorson <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >You won't be able to live without these:
    >
    >http://www.ebay.com/itm/251147254788
    >
    >If they were left-handed, I'd considered bidding.



    I have a pair, think mine are Wagner

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  5. #5
    Stu Guest

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    On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 22:56:06 -0500, Stu <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:44:12 -0800, Mark Thorson <[email protected]>
    >wrote:
    >
    >>You won't be able to live without these:
    >>
    >>http://www.ebay.com/itm/251147254788
    >>
    >>If they were left-handed, I'd considered bidding.

    >
    >
    >I have a pair, think mine are Wagner
    >
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    >


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  6. #6
    Helpful person Guest

    Default Re: for the SERIOUS cast iron cookware collector

    On Sep 10, 10:40*am, Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net> wrote:
    > You won't be able to live without these:
    >
    > http://www.ebay.com/itm/251147254788
    >
    > If they were left-handed, I'd considered bidding.


    Why can't I live without a pair of bookends?

    http://www.richardfisher.com

  7. #7
    Nunya Bidnits Guest

    Default Re: for the SERIOUS cast iron cookware collector

    Mark Thorson <[email protected]> wrote:
    > You won't be able to live without these:
    >
    > http://www.ebay.com/itm/251147254788
    >
    > If they were left-handed, I'd considered bidding.


    Whoever made them should have rotated one of the skillets so both handles
    face in the same direction when actually used on a bookshelf. The way it's
    made it looks like one handle will be banging against the back of the
    bookcase or wall behind them, and a symmetrical appearance would be more
    pleasing. I don't actually see these as being of interest to the serious
    cast iron collector.

    MartyB




  8. #8
    Nunya Bidnits Guest

    Default Re: for the SERIOUS cast iron cookware collector

    Mark Thorson <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Nunya Bidnits wrote:
    >>
    >> Mark Thorson <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> You won't be able to live without these:
    >>>
    >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/251147254788
    >>>
    >>> If they were left-handed, I'd considered bidding.

    >>
    >> Whoever made them should have rotated one of the skillets so both
    >> handles face in the same direction when actually used on a
    >> bookshelf. The way it's made it looks like one handle will be
    >> banging against the back of the bookcase or wall behind them, and a
    >> symmetrical appearance would be more pleasing. I don't actually see
    >> these as being of interest to the serious cast iron collector.

    >
    > If they were genuine Griswold, they'd probably fetch
    > at least $500, maybe a lot more. As a no-name, who knows?
    > Maybe $50-75.


    I see them getting 4 bucks at a garage sale, maybe $7 at a thrift store. But
    on Ebay, who knows?



  9. #9
    Mark Thorson Guest

    Default Re: for the SERIOUS cast iron cookware collector

    Nunya Bidnits wrote:
    >
    > Mark Thorson <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > You won't be able to live without these:
    > >
    > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/251147254788
    > >
    > > If they were left-handed, I'd considered bidding.

    >
    > Whoever made them should have rotated one of the skillets so both handles
    > face in the same direction when actually used on a bookshelf. The way it's
    > made it looks like one handle will be banging against the back of the
    > bookcase or wall behind them, and a symmetrical appearance would be more
    > pleasing. I don't actually see these as being of interest to the serious
    > cast iron collector.


    If they were genuine Griswold, they'd probably fetch
    at least $500, maybe a lot more. As a no-name, who knows?
    Maybe $50-75.

  10. #10
    GaDGJak Guest

    Default Re: for the SERIOUS cast iron cookware collector


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  11. #11
    Stu Guest

    Default Re: for the SERIOUS cast iron cookware collector

    On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 13:33:07 -0800, Mark Thorson <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >Nunya Bidnits wrote:
    >>
    >> Mark Thorson <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> > You won't be able to live without these:
    >> >
    >> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/251147254788
    >> >
    >> > If they were left-handed, I'd considered bidding.

    >>
    >> Whoever made them should have rotated one of the skillets so both handles
    >> face in the same direction when actually used on a bookshelf. The way it's
    >> made it looks like one handle will be banging against the back of the
    >> bookcase or wall behind them, and a symmetrical appearance would be more
    >> pleasing. I don't actually see these as being of interest to the serious
    >> cast iron collector.

    >
    >If they were genuine Griswold, they'd probably fetch
    >at least $500, maybe a lot more. As a no-name, who knows?
    >Maybe $50-75.



    No name maybe $45. Griswold, if they were a 0 or 1 maybe $125 each
    with stands

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  12. #12
    Krypsis Guest

    Default Re: for the SERIOUS cast iron cookware collector

    On 13/09/2012 5:57 AM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
    > Mark Thorson <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> You won't be able to live without these:
    >>
    >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/251147254788
    >>
    >> If they were left-handed, I'd considered bidding.

    >
    > Whoever made them should have rotated one of the skillets so both handles
    > face in the same direction when actually used on a bookshelf. The way it's
    > made it looks like one handle will be banging against the back of the
    > bookcase or wall behind them, and a symmetrical appearance would be more
    > pleasing. I don't actually see these as being of interest to the serious
    > cast iron collector.
    >
    > MartyB
    >
    >
    >

    To make them in both right and left hand versions, they would have
    needed two different castings. These are, apart from the flat metal base
    plate, one large casting. It would have been more aesthetically pleasing
    had they had made a right and a left hand version. As it is, I won't be
    bidding anyway. I prefer bookends of carved wood.

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    Krypsis

  13. #13
    Nunya Bidnits Guest

    Default Re: for the SERIOUS cast iron cookware collector

    Krypsis <[email protected]> wrote:
    > On 13/09/2012 5:57 AM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
    >> Mark Thorson <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> You won't be able to live without these:
    >>>
    >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/251147254788
    >>>
    >>> If they were left-handed, I'd considered bidding.

    >>
    >> Whoever made them should have rotated one of the skillets so both
    >> handles face in the same direction when actually used on a
    >> bookshelf. The way it's made it looks like one handle will be
    >> banging against the back of the bookcase or wall behind them, and a
    >> symmetrical appearance would be more pleasing. I don't actually see
    >> these as being of interest to the serious cast iron collector.
    >>
    >> MartyB
    >>
    >>
    >>

    > To make them in both right and left hand versions, they would have
    > needed two different castings.


    Correct. This is why it has little value as artful decor, because it was a
    good idea but poorly executed when the maker didn't bother to cast a
    separate piece for each bookend. I see that it didn't sell and has been
    relisted which is no surprise.

    You can't tell from the photos if the skillets were cast with the book
    plates on them or if they were welded on later. But there are two flat
    plates, and the smaller looks as if it could have been cast with the skillet
    and the longer piece looks obviously welded on. But just looking at the
    orientation of the pieces and how the casting would have to be poured, I
    think it's quite unlikely the whole thing is cast.

    MartyB



  14. #14
    Krypsis Guest

    Default Re: for the SERIOUS cast iron cookware collector

    On 19/09/2012 3:44 AM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
    > Krypsis <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> On 13/09/2012 5:57 AM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
    >>> Mark Thorson <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>> You won't be able to live without these:
    >>>>
    >>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/251147254788
    >>>>
    >>>> If they were left-handed, I'd considered bidding.
    >>>
    >>> Whoever made them should have rotated one of the skillets so both
    >>> handles face in the same direction when actually used on a
    >>> bookshelf. The way it's made it looks like one handle will be
    >>> banging against the back of the bookcase or wall behind them, and a
    >>> symmetrical appearance would be more pleasing. I don't actually see
    >>> these as being of interest to the serious cast iron collector.
    >>>
    >>> MartyB
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >> To make them in both right and left hand versions, they would have
    >> needed two different castings.

    >
    > Correct. This is why it has little value as artful decor, because it was a
    > good idea but poorly executed when the maker didn't bother to cast a
    > separate piece for each bookend. I see that it didn't sell and has been
    > relisted which is no surprise.


    They aren't aesthetically pleasing to the eye and, in use, would look
    wrong.
    >
    > You can't tell from the photos if the skillets were cast with the book


    Looking at the general shapes, I'd have to say that it's an odds on bet
    that the castings are one piece, base and skillet. The thin plate on
    each is separate entity. On someting like this, the base would be cast
    integrally with the skillet. The shape of the base is a giveaway if you
    know anything about casting. The front to rear taper of the base is done
    to provide easy release of the complete entity from the sand mold. It
    would be difficult to weld the base castings to the skillet and there is
    no indication these are screwed on.

    > plates on them or if they were welded on later. But there are two flat
    > plates, and the smaller looks as if it could have been cast with the skillet
    > and the longer piece looks obviously welded on. But just looking at the
    > orientation of the pieces and how the casting would have to be poured, I
    > think it's quite unlikely the whole thing is cast.


    The plates are separate pieces of thin metal plate. These are screwed
    on, each being held onto its respective skillet by a single countersunk
    metalthread screw. It would be extremely difficult to cast the thin
    plate as integral with the skillet and base, especially given that cast
    iron is extremely brittle.
    >
    > MartyB
    >
    >

    These would have been made very cheaply in some Asian sweat shop as arty
    bookends. They would never have been originally intended for use as
    cooking instruments and repurposed, the casting quality of the skillets
    is too poor for that.

    --

    Krypsis

  15. #15
    Gary Guest

    Default Re: for the SERIOUS cast iron cookware collector

    Krypsis wrote:
    >
    > On 13/09/2012 5:57 AM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
    > > Mark Thorson <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >> You won't be able to live without these:
    > >>
    > >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/251147254788
    > >>
    > >> If they were left-handed, I'd considered bidding.

    > >
    > > Whoever made them should have rotated one of the skillets so both handles
    > > face in the same direction when actually used on a bookshelf. The way it's
    > > made it looks like one handle will be banging against the back of the
    > > bookcase or wall behind them, and a symmetrical appearance would be more
    > > pleasing. I don't actually see these as being of interest to the serious
    > > cast iron collector.
    > >
    > > MartyB
    > >
    > >
    > >

    > To make them in both right and left hand versions, they would have
    > needed two different castings. These are, apart from the flat metal base
    > plate, one large casting. It would have been more aesthetically pleasing
    > had they had made a right and a left hand version. As it is, I won't be
    > bidding anyway. I prefer bookends of carved wood.


    I got rid of all my bookends many years ago. I've accumulated so many books
    that I don't have room for them any more. All of my books are crammed into
    the shelves and my paperback bookshelf has them crammed in even
    worse.....remove the front books to find another layer of them behind.

    G.

  16. #16
    sf Guest

    Default Re: for the SERIOUS cast iron cookware collector

    On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 06:38:27 +1000, Krypsis <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    > On 19/09/2012 3:44 AM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
    > > Krypsis <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >> On 13/09/2012 5:57 AM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
    > >>> Mark Thorson <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>>> You won't be able to live without these:
    > >>>>
    > >>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/251147254788
    > >>>>


    Every day I expect this thread to be dead and yet it still lives on.
    Amazing.

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  17. #17
    Nunya Bidnits Guest

    Default Re: for the SERIOUS cast iron cookware collector

    Krypsis <[email protected]> wrote:
    > On 19/09/2012 3:44 AM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
    >> Krypsis <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> On 13/09/2012 5:57 AM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
    >>>> Mark Thorson <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>> You won't be able to live without these:
    >>>>>
    >>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/251147254788
    >>>>>
    >>>>> If they were left-handed, I'd considered bidding.
    >>>>
    >>>> Whoever made them should have rotated one of the skillets so both
    >>>> handles face in the same direction when actually used on a
    >>>> bookshelf. The way it's made it looks like one handle will be
    >>>> banging against the back of the bookcase or wall behind them, and a
    >>>> symmetrical appearance would be more pleasing. I don't actually see
    >>>> these as being of interest to the serious cast iron collector.
    >>>>
    >>>> MartyB
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>> To make them in both right and left hand versions, they would have
    >>> needed two different castings.

    >>
    >> Correct. This is why it has little value as artful decor, because it
    >> was a good idea but poorly executed when the maker didn't bother to
    >> cast a separate piece for each bookend. I see that it didn't sell
    >> and has been relisted which is no surprise.

    >
    > They aren't aesthetically pleasing to the eye and, in use, would look
    > wrong.
    >>
    >> You can't tell from the photos if the skillets were cast with the
    >> book

    >
    > Looking at the general shapes, I'd have to say that it's an odds on
    > bet that the castings are one piece, base and skillet. The thin plate
    > on each is separate entity. On someting like this, the base would be
    > cast integrally with the skillet. The shape of the base is a giveaway
    > if you know anything about casting. The front to rear taper of the
    > base is done to provide easy release of the complete entity from the
    > sand mold. It would be difficult to weld the base castings to the
    > skillet and there is no indication these are screwed on.
    >
    >> plates on them or if they were welded on later. But there are two
    >> flat plates, and the smaller looks as if it could have been cast
    >> with the skillet and the longer piece looks obviously welded on. But
    >> just looking at the orientation of the pieces and how the casting
    >> would have to be poured, I think it's quite unlikely the whole thing
    >> is cast.

    >
    > The plates are separate pieces of thin metal plate. These are screwed
    > on, each being held onto its respective skillet by a single
    > countersunk metalthread screw. It would be extremely difficult to
    > cast the thin plate as integral with the skillet and base, especially
    > given that cast iron is extremely brittle.
    >>
    >> MartyB
    >>
    >>

    > These would have been made very cheaply in some Asian sweat shop as
    > arty bookends. They would never have been originally intended for use
    > as cooking instruments and repurposed, the casting quality of the
    > skillets is too poor for that.


    If they are screwed on there is really no excuse for one of the bookends to
    be ass backwards. OTOH if they are screwed on, why can't you just take one
    off, drill the hole correctly, and reverse it? You can't if they aren't
    screwed on. Where do you see screws?

    MartyB



  18. #18
    Krypsis Guest

    Default Re: for the SERIOUS cast iron cookware collector

    On 19/09/2012 9:27 AM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
    > Krypsis <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> On 19/09/2012 3:44 AM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
    >>> Krypsis <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>> On 13/09/2012 5:57 AM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
    >>>>> Mark Thorson <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>> You won't be able to live without these:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/251147254788
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> If they were left-handed, I'd considered bidding.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Whoever made them should have rotated one of the skillets so both
    >>>>> handles face in the same direction when actually used on a
    >>>>> bookshelf. The way it's made it looks like one handle will be
    >>>>> banging against the back of the bookcase or wall behind them, and a
    >>>>> symmetrical appearance would be more pleasing. I don't actually see
    >>>>> these as being of interest to the serious cast iron collector.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> MartyB
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>> To make them in both right and left hand versions, they would have
    >>>> needed two different castings.
    >>>
    >>> Correct. This is why it has little value as artful decor, because it
    >>> was a good idea but poorly executed when the maker didn't bother to
    >>> cast a separate piece for each bookend. I see that it didn't sell
    >>> and has been relisted which is no surprise.

    >>
    >> They aren't aesthetically pleasing to the eye and, in use, would look
    >> wrong.
    >>>
    >>> You can't tell from the photos if the skillets were cast with the
    >>> book

    >>
    >> Looking at the general shapes, I'd have to say that it's an odds on
    >> bet that the castings are one piece, base and skillet. The thin plate
    >> on each is separate entity. On someting like this, the base would be
    >> cast integrally with the skillet. The shape of the base is a giveaway
    >> if you know anything about casting. The front to rear taper of the
    >> base is done to provide easy release of the complete entity from the
    >> sand mold. It would be difficult to weld the base castings to the
    >> skillet and there is no indication these are screwed on.
    >>
    >>> plates on them or if they were welded on later. But there are two
    >>> flat plates, and the smaller looks as if it could have been cast
    >>> with the skillet and the longer piece looks obviously welded on. But
    >>> just looking at the orientation of the pieces and how the casting
    >>> would have to be poured, I think it's quite unlikely the whole thing
    >>> is cast.

    >>
    >> The plates are separate pieces of thin metal plate. These are screwed
    >> on, each being held onto its respective skillet by a single
    >> countersunk metalthread screw. It would be extremely difficult to
    >> cast the thin plate as integral with the skillet and base, especially
    >> given that cast iron is extremely brittle.
    >>>
    >>> MartyB
    >>>
    >>>

    >> These would have been made very cheaply in some Asian sweat shop as
    >> arty bookends. They would never have been originally intended for use
    >> as cooking instruments and repurposed, the casting quality of the
    >> skillets is too poor for that.

    >
    > If they are screwed on there is really no excuse for one of the bookends to
    > be ass backwards. OTOH if they are screwed on, why can't you just take one
    > off, drill the hole correctly, and reverse it? You can't if they aren't
    > screwed on.


    You would need to do a mirror image of the existing casting to make it
    look right as a matched pair of bookends.

    > Where do you see screws?
    >
    > MartyB
    >
    >

    On the third diagram iirc. They are slotted countersunk head clearly
    visible in the picture. Only one per metal plate so it seems a tad
    minimalistic if you ask me. I'd have used two per plate to prevent
    swivelling.

    --

    Krypsis

  19. #19
    Krypsis Guest

    Default Re: for the SERIOUS cast iron cookware collector

    On 19/09/2012 7:31 AM, Gary wrote:
    > Krypsis wrote:
    >>
    >> On 13/09/2012 5:57 AM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
    >>> Mark Thorson <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>> You won't be able to live without these:
    >>>>
    >>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/251147254788
    >>>>
    >>>> If they were left-handed, I'd considered bidding.
    >>>
    >>> Whoever made them should have rotated one of the skillets so both handles
    >>> face in the same direction when actually used on a bookshelf. The way it's
    >>> made it looks like one handle will be banging against the back of the
    >>> bookcase or wall behind them, and a symmetrical appearance would be more
    >>> pleasing. I don't actually see these as being of interest to the serious
    >>> cast iron collector.
    >>>
    >>> MartyB
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >> To make them in both right and left hand versions, they would have
    >> needed two different castings. These are, apart from the flat metal base
    >> plate, one large casting. It would have been more aesthetically pleasing
    >> had they had made a right and a left hand version. As it is, I won't be
    >> bidding anyway. I prefer bookends of carved wood.

    >
    > I got rid of all my bookends many years ago. I've accumulated so many books
    > that I don't have room for them any more. All of my books are crammed into
    > the shelves and my paperback bookshelf has them crammed in even
    > worse.....remove the front books to find another layer of them behind.
    >
    > G.
    >

    I've done that with my bookshelves - double layer. Now the shelves
    themselves have a severe bow in them. I expect a collapse any time soon. ;-)

    --

    Krypsis

  20. #20
    Mark Thorson Guest

    Default Re: for the SERIOUS cast iron cookware collector

    sf wrote:
    >
    > Every day I expect this thread to be dead and yet it still lives on.
    > Amazing.


    You'd rather talk about stolen maple syrup?

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