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    Farm1 Guest

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    Does any one have a tried and true recipe for Salad Cream please?



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    George M. Middius Guest

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    Farm1 wrote:

    > Does any one have a tried and true recipe for Salad Cream please?


    Isn't that the same stuff as reduced-fat imitation mayo?



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    Farm1 Guest

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    "George M. Middius" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > Farm1 wrote:
    >
    >> Does any one have a tried and true recipe for Salad Cream please?

    >
    > Isn't that the same stuff as reduced-fat imitation mayo?


    I have no idea George since I've only ever tried it once. That was Heinz
    Salad Cream and it sat in my fridge for some time before I threw it out.

    I'd bought it for a recipe which I didn't make because the Heinz product was
    so nasty but it occured to me that it once may have been a home made salad
    dressing that Mr Heinz decided to reproduce commercially and, IMO, does very
    poorly.

    I have found a couple of recipe in Fannie Farmer but not in any local
    cookbooks so perhaps it is a traditional American recipe?????? I ntoice
    that resposne have'nt come in fast and furious so perhaps I should just try
    one of the FF recipes to see if it suits.



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    sf Guest

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    On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 11:38:37 +1000, "Farm1" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    > I have found a couple of recipe in Fannie Farmer but not in any local
    > cookbooks so perhaps it is a traditional American recipe??????
    >

    I've always assumed it was a foreign product, probably British (but
    maybe Australian), because the only time I've seen it mentioned is on
    usenet.

    > I ntoice
    > that resposne have'nt come in fast and furious so perhaps I should just try
    > one of the FF recipes to see if it suits.


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    graham Guest

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    "Farm1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:k211n3$le9$[email protected]..
    > "George M. Middius" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    >> Farm1 wrote:
    >>
    >>> Does any one have a tried and true recipe for Salad Cream please?

    >>
    >> Isn't that the same stuff as reduced-fat imitation mayo?

    >
    > I have no idea George since I've only ever tried it once. That was Heinz
    > Salad Cream and it sat in my fridge for some time before I threw it out.
    >
    > I'd bought it for a recipe which I didn't make because the Heinz product
    > was so nasty but it occured to me that it once may have been a home made
    > salad dressing that Mr Heinz decided to reproduce commercially and, IMO,
    > does very poorly.
    >
    > I have found a couple of recipe in Fannie Farmer but not in any local
    > cookbooks so perhaps it is a traditional American recipe?????? I ntoice
    > that resposne have'nt come in fast and furious so perhaps I should just
    > try one of the FF recipes to see if it suits.

    The cookbook that came with Kenwood mixers had a recipe IIRC. Mind you, it
    had mustard in it so it probably ended up tasting like heinz's.



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    Farm1 Guest

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    "sf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 11:38:37 +1000, "Farm1" <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> I have found a couple of recipe in Fannie Farmer but not in any local
    >> cookbooks so perhaps it is a traditional American recipe??????
    >>

    > I've always assumed it was a foreign product, probably British (but
    > maybe Australian), because the only time I've seen it mentioned is on
    > usenet.


    That's interesting. If it was an Aussie dressing I'm sure it'd be in my
    cookbooks, especillayt he older ones somewhere and so far, no luck there.
    I'd assumed that because it was a Heinz product that it might be an older
    American recipe. Now I'm wondering if Heinz is a British company. But
    then salad is not what comes to mind when I think of British food and
    certainly not any form of salad dressing.

    You do realise that you've piqued my curiosity yet again and now I'm going
    to have to start another hunt to satisfy my curiosity? Last night's hunt
    for info on Leonidas and the Hot Gates. Boned up on that so now I need
    something new to learn about so it may as well be salad cream and it's
    origins.



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    Steve Pope Guest

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    So far as I know salad cream is a commercial product, most
    commonly found in the British Isles, and I have never heard of
    anyone making it at home. Probably, no attempt at a home-made
    salad cream could come out as utterly bad as the store-bought
    product is expected to be, so why bother.

    To those of us in North America, it resembles a slightly less
    thick Miracle Whip.

    Truly atrocoius stuff.


    Steve

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    Farm1 Guest

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    "graham" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > "Farm1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:k211n3$le9$[email protected]..
    >> "George M. Middius" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]..
    >>> Farm1 wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Does any one have a tried and true recipe for Salad Cream please?
    >>>
    >>> Isn't that the same stuff as reduced-fat imitation mayo?

    >>
    >> I have no idea George since I've only ever tried it once. That was Heinz
    >> Salad Cream and it sat in my fridge for some time before I threw it out.
    >>
    >> I'd bought it for a recipe which I didn't make because the Heinz product
    >> was so nasty but it occured to me that it once may have been a home made
    >> salad dressing that Mr Heinz decided to reproduce commercially and, IMO,
    >> does very poorly.
    >>
    >> I have found a couple of recipe in Fannie Farmer but not in any local
    >> cookbooks so perhaps it is a traditional American recipe?????? I ntoice
    >> that resposne have'nt come in fast and furious so perhaps I should just
    >> try one of the FF recipes to see if it suits.

    > The cookbook that came with Kenwood mixers had a recipe IIRC. Mind you, it
    > had mustard in it so it probably ended up tasting like heinz's.


    Thank you Graham. I'll check it out if I can find my kenwood book. Since
    Kenwood is a UK brand perhaps sf is right about it being a UK recipe.



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    sf Guest

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    On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 17:08:07 +1000, "Farm1" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    > "sf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    > > On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 11:38:37 +1000, "Farm1" <[email protected]>
    > > wrote:
    > >
    > >> I have found a couple of recipe in Fannie Farmer but not in any local
    > >> cookbooks so perhaps it is a traditional American recipe??????
    > >>

    > > I've always assumed it was a foreign product, probably British (but
    > > maybe Australian), because the only time I've seen it mentioned is on
    > > usenet.

    >
    > That's interesting. If it was an Aussie dressing I'm sure it'd be in my
    > cookbooks, especillayt he older ones somewhere and so far, no luck there.
    > I'd assumed that because it was a Heinz product that it might be an older
    > American recipe. Now I'm wondering if Heinz is a British company. But
    > then salad is not what comes to mind when I think of British food and
    > certainly not any form of salad dressing.
    >
    > You do realise that you've piqued my curiosity yet again and now I'm going
    > to have to start another hunt to satisfy my curiosity? Last night's hunt
    > for info on Leonidas and the Hot Gates. Boned up on that so now I need
    > something new to learn about so it may as well be salad cream and it's
    > origins.
    >

    Heh. Sorry... OTOH, the internet is a wonderful place.

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    Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

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    Ian Kane Guest

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    "Farm1" wrote in message news:k1un9a$kpd$[email protected]..

    Does any one have a tried and true recipe for Salad Cream please?

    ------------------


    Cornish Salad Cream

    1 1/2 Tblsp Flour
    3 Tblsp Sugar
    1 Tblsp Butter
    1 egg
    1 Pt Milk
    1/2 Pt White Vinegar
    1/2 tsp Black Pepper
    1/2 tsp Salt
    1 Tblsp Dry Mustard Powder
    1 Tsp Anchovy Essence


    Mix all in a blender, gently bring to boil and simmer for a few minutes.



    IK




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    Jean B. Guest

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    Farm1 wrote:
    > "graham" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> "Farm1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:k211n3$le9$[email protected]..
    >>> "George M. Middius" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>> news:[email protected]..
    >>>> Farm1 wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Does any one have a tried and true recipe for Salad Cream please?
    >>>> Isn't that the same stuff as reduced-fat imitation mayo?
    >>> I have no idea George since I've only ever tried it once. That was Heinz
    >>> Salad Cream and it sat in my fridge for some time before I threw it out.
    >>>
    >>> I'd bought it for a recipe which I didn't make because the Heinz product
    >>> was so nasty but it occured to me that it once may have been a home made
    >>> salad dressing that Mr Heinz decided to reproduce commercially and, IMO,
    >>> does very poorly.
    >>>
    >>> I have found a couple of recipe in Fannie Farmer but not in any local
    >>> cookbooks so perhaps it is a traditional American recipe?????? I ntoice
    >>> that resposne have'nt come in fast and furious so perhaps I should just
    >>> try one of the FF recipes to see if it suits.

    >> The cookbook that came with Kenwood mixers had a recipe IIRC. Mind you, it
    >> had mustard in it so it probably ended up tasting like heinz's.

    >
    > Thank you Graham. I'll check it out if I can find my kenwood book. Since
    > Kenwood is a UK brand perhaps sf is right about it being a UK recipe.
    >
    >

    I can probably look through some Kenwood booklets tomorrow, if you
    would like me to. (I've been sorting ephemera, so they should be
    findable.)

    Oh, looking back, I see you want a TNT recipe. Any that I find
    would not be.

    --
    Jean B.

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    Farm1 Guest

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    "Jean B." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > Farm1 wrote:
    >> "graham" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>> "Farm1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>> news:k211n3$le9$[email protected]..
    >>>> "George M. Middius" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>> news:[email protected]..
    >>>>> Farm1 wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Does any one have a tried and true recipe for Salad Cream please?
    >>>>> Isn't that the same stuff as reduced-fat imitation mayo?
    >>>> I have no idea George since I've only ever tried it once. That was
    >>>> Heinz Salad Cream and it sat in my fridge for some time before I threw
    >>>> it out.
    >>>>
    >>>> I'd bought it for a recipe which I didn't make because the Heinz
    >>>> product was so nasty but it occured to me that it once may have been a
    >>>> home made salad dressing that Mr Heinz decided to reproduce
    >>>> commercially and, IMO, does very poorly.
    >>>>
    >>>> I have found a couple of recipe in Fannie Farmer but not in any local
    >>>> cookbooks so perhaps it is a traditional American recipe?????? I
    >>>> ntoice that resposne have'nt come in fast and furious so perhaps I
    >>>> should just try one of the FF recipes to see if it suits.
    >>> The cookbook that came with Kenwood mixers had a recipe IIRC. Mind you,
    >>> it had mustard in it so it probably ended up tasting like heinz's.

    >>
    >> Thank you Graham. I'll check it out if I can find my kenwood book.
    >> Since >> Kenwood is a UK brand perhaps sf is right about it being a UK
    >> recipe.

    > I can probably look through some Kenwood booklets tomorrow, if you would
    > like me to. (I've been sorting ephemera, so they should be findable.)


    Well Jean, I dug out my Kenwood book which came with my machine decades ago
    and there is no Salad Cream recipe there. when I looked to see where it was
    printd, it's an austrlaian book because ti only has the Aussie service
    places. I guess they modified it for our market.

    > Oh, looking back, I see you want a TNT recipe. Any that I find would not
    > be.


    Actually at this stage I'll give any recipe for ti a try out. So far I've
    only found 2 recipes in Fannie Farmer and 1 in "The Enchanted Broccoli
    Forest" (as in Moosewood Restaurant, Ithaca, NY) called 'Creamy Mustard'
    which must be failry close, and, would you believe, 1 in Larousse but it's
    not thick like the Heinz Salad cream - it's a very liquid dressing.



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    Farm1 Guest

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    "Ian Kane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    >
    >
    > "Farm1" wrote in message news:k1un9a$kpd$[email protected]..
    > Does any one have a tried and true recipe for Salad Cream please?
    > ------------------
    >
    >
    > Cornish Salad Cream
    >
    > 1 1/2 Tblsp Flour
    > 3 Tblsp Sugar
    > 1 Tblsp Butter
    > 1 egg
    > 1 Pt Milk
    > 1/2 Pt White Vinegar
    > 1/2 tsp Black Pepper
    > 1/2 tsp Salt
    > 1 Tblsp Dry Mustard Powder
    > 1 Tsp Anchovy Essence
    >
    >
    > Mix all in a blender, gently bring to boil and simmer for a few minutes.


    Yipee! Thank you Ian. It sounds like it might end up being of the sort of
    consistency of the Heinz Salad Cream and those ingredients might even taste
    like a decent dressing should.



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    Farm1 Guest

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    "sf" <[email protected]> wrote in message "Farm1" <[email protected]>
    > wrote:


    >> You do realise that you've piqued my curiosity yet again and now I'm
    >> going
    >> to have to start another hunt to satisfy my curiosity? Last night's hunt
    >> for info on Leonidas and the Hot Gates. Boned up on that so now I need
    >> >> something new to learn about so it may as well be salad cream and it's

    >> origins.
    >>

    > Heh. Sorry... OTOH, the internet is a wonderful place.


    It surely is. It has one huge drwback though and that is the tiem it takes.
    Once I start using it, I find myself, hours later, a million gazillion miles
    from where I started and I've found out all sorts of weird and wonderful
    things that I never knew I really needed to know.



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    Farm1 Guest

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    If anyone is interested, in a google hunt I found this recipe:
    http://www.gastronomydomine.com/?p=345

    Interestingly enough, that recipe is close to the Fannie Farmer recipes
    however they differ in FF using a fresh egg and the online recipe using a
    hard boiled egg.

    I also found that apparently Heinz invented Salad Cream especially for the
    UK market in the 1920s so sf was quite right (although now i'm wondering why
    ti was that FF has 2 recipes for it) apparently Mr Heinz product contains
    far less fat than a normal salad dressing.



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    sf Guest

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    On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 15:45:35 +1000, "Farm1" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    > Actually at this stage I'll give any recipe for ti a try out. So far I've
    > only found 2 recipes in Fannie Farmer and 1 in "The Enchanted Broccoli
    > Forest" (as in Moosewood Restaurant, Ithaca, NY) called 'Creamy Mustard'
    > which must be failry close, and, would you believe, 1 in Larousse but it's
    > not thick like the Heinz Salad cream - it's a very liquid dressing.


    Have you used Google with the term "salad cream recipe uk"? I'm not
    going to list any sites because I am having a hard time imagining what
    salad cream is after I read the first recipe (which called for hard
    boiled eggs).

    --
    Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

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    sf Guest

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    On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 15:48:28 +1000, "Farm1" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    > "Ian Kane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    > >
    > >
    > > "Farm1" wrote in message news:k1un9a$kpd$[email protected]..
    > > Does any one have a tried and true recipe for Salad Cream please?
    > > ------------------
    > >
    > >
    > > Cornish Salad Cream
    > >
    > > 1 1/2 Tblsp Flour
    > > 3 Tblsp Sugar
    > > 1 Tblsp Butter
    > > 1 egg
    > > 1 Pt Milk
    > > 1/2 Pt White Vinegar
    > > 1/2 tsp Black Pepper
    > > 1/2 tsp Salt
    > > 1 Tblsp Dry Mustard Powder
    > > 1 Tsp Anchovy Essence
    > >
    > >
    > > Mix all in a blender, gently bring to boil and simmer for a few minutes.

    >
    > Yipee! Thank you Ian. It sounds like it might end up being of the sort of
    > consistency of the Heinz Salad Cream and those ingredients might even taste
    > like a decent dressing should.
    >

    Do you know where to find Anchovy Essence in Australia or would you
    substitute Worcestershire sauce?

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    Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

  18. #18
    Jean B. Guest

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    Farm1 wrote:
    > "Jean B." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> Farm1 wrote:
    >>> "graham" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>> "Farm1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>> news:k211n3$le9$[email protected]..
    >>>>> "George M. Middius" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:[email protected]..
    >>>>>> Farm1 wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Does any one have a tried and true recipe for Salad Cream please?
    >>>>>> Isn't that the same stuff as reduced-fat imitation mayo?
    >>>>> I have no idea George since I've only ever tried it once. That was
    >>>>> Heinz Salad Cream and it sat in my fridge for some time before I threw
    >>>>> it out.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I'd bought it for a recipe which I didn't make because the Heinz
    >>>>> product was so nasty but it occured to me that it once may have been a
    >>>>> home made salad dressing that Mr Heinz decided to reproduce
    >>>>> commercially and, IMO, does very poorly.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I have found a couple of recipe in Fannie Farmer but not in any local
    >>>>> cookbooks so perhaps it is a traditional American recipe?????? I
    >>>>> ntoice that resposne have'nt come in fast and furious so perhaps I
    >>>>> should just try one of the FF recipes to see if it suits.
    >>>> The cookbook that came with Kenwood mixers had a recipe IIRC. Mind you,
    >>>> it had mustard in it so it probably ended up tasting like heinz's.
    >>> Thank you Graham. I'll check it out if I can find my kenwood book.
    >>> Since >> Kenwood is a UK brand perhaps sf is right about it being a UK
    >>> recipe.

    >> I can probably look through some Kenwood booklets tomorrow, if you would
    >> like me to. (I've been sorting ephemera, so they should be findable.)

    >
    > Well Jean, I dug out my Kenwood book which came with my machine decades ago
    > and there is no Salad Cream recipe there. when I looked to see where it was
    > printd, it's an austrlaian book because ti only has the Aussie service
    > places. I guess they modified it for our market.
    >
    >> Oh, looking back, I see you want a TNT recipe. Any that I find would not
    >> be.

    >
    > Actually at this stage I'll give any recipe for ti a try out. So far I've
    > only found 2 recipes in Fannie Farmer and 1 in "The Enchanted Broccoli
    > Forest" (as in Moosewood Restaurant, Ithaca, NY) called 'Creamy Mustard'
    > which must be failry close, and, would you believe, 1 in Larousse but it's
    > not thick like the Heinz Salad cream - it's a very liquid dressing.
    >
    >

    What characteristics are you looking for? I can find so many
    recipes for this....

    --
    Jean B.

  19. #19
    Jean B. Guest

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    Farm1 wrote:
    > "Ian Kane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    >>
    >> "Farm1" wrote in message news:k1un9a$kpd$[email protected]..
    >> Does any one have a tried and true recipe for Salad Cream please?
    >> ------------------
    >>
    >>
    >> Cornish Salad Cream
    >>
    >> 1 1/2 Tblsp Flour
    >> 3 Tblsp Sugar
    >> 1 Tblsp Butter
    >> 1 egg
    >> 1 Pt Milk
    >> 1/2 Pt White Vinegar
    >> 1/2 tsp Black Pepper
    >> 1/2 tsp Salt
    >> 1 Tblsp Dry Mustard Powder
    >> 1 Tsp Anchovy Essence
    >>
    >>
    >> Mix all in a blender, gently bring to boil and simmer for a few minutes.

    >
    > Yipee! Thank you Ian. It sounds like it might end up being of the sort of
    > consistency of the Heinz Salad Cream and those ingredients might even taste
    > like a decent dressing should.
    >
    >

    I am surprised to see the anchovy essence in it. That strikes me
    as unusual (but that is, of course, from a USian perspective).

    --
    Jean B.

  20. #20
    Jean B. Guest

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    Farm1 wrote:
    > "sf" <[email protected]> wrote in message "Farm1" <[email protected]>
    >> wrote:

    >
    >>> You do realise that you've piqued my curiosity yet again and now I'm
    >>> going
    >>> to have to start another hunt to satisfy my curiosity? Last night's hunt
    >>> for info on Leonidas and the Hot Gates. Boned up on that so now I need
    >>> >> something new to learn about so it may as well be salad cream and it's
    >>> origins.
    >>>

    >> Heh. Sorry... OTOH, the internet is a wonderful place.

    >
    > It surely is. It has one huge drwback though and that is the tiem it takes.
    > Once I start using it, I find myself, hours later, a million gazillion miles
    > from where I started and I've found out all sorts of weird and wonderful
    > things that I never knew I really needed to know.
    >
    >

    BTDT many many times.

    --
    Jean B.

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