Safeway tigtens the screws

On Nov 18, 9:23�pm, "Pete C." <aux3.DO...@snet.net> wrote:
> notbob wrote:
>
> > On 2008-11-19, Pete C. <aux3.DO...@snet.net> wrote:
>
> > > I'm used to seeing "Free with $20 purchase" or similar.
>
> > At Safeway?
>
> > nb
>
> No Safeways around me that I'm aware of. Regular grocery stores in a
> couple states I'm familiar with typically have that "Free with $20
> purchase" type of special for a mid sized turkey. I haven't paid much
> attention this season, as I think I'm going to do something different,
> perhaps a rack of lamb.

A fresh ham costs a heck of a lot less than baaaaaad (lamb).

Pete C. wrote:

> Sqwertz wrote:
>
>>BD <noone@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Why buy one of those horribly raised, hormone laden, tasteless turkeys
>>>anyway? Safeway did you a favor. Contact your local farmer.
>>
>>It's always nice to hear from somebody who has all their facts
>>straight. Unfortunately, you're not one of them.
>>
>>Hormone use in poultry production has been illegal for over 40
>>years.
>>
>>-sw
>
>
> And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a hunting
> license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
> product.

Or go out on your mountain bike, minding your own business, and have one
of those horrible, flappy, dinosaur-looking things kill itelf by
crashing into YOUR HEAD.

Although the free price tag hardly makes up for the co-pay on the ER
visit for stitches.

And no, it wasn't me, it was a friend, although I've had numerous close
encounters with the damned things. I know exactly why "bird brain" came
into common use as an insult. And squirrels. Don't even get me started
on squirrels.

"BD" wrote:
> "notbob" wrote
> > Dimitri wrote:
>
> >> IIRC the minimum purchase has always been a requirement.
>
> > Maybe for U
>
> > I've been taking advantage of this sale for 30+ yrs. �Never seen it. �I'd
> > go into Safeway, get sale turkey only, walk out. �EOS (end of story).
>
> > nb
>
> Why buy one of those horribly raised, hormone laden, tasteless turkeys
> anyway? �Safeway did you a favor. �Contact your local farmer.

Oh puhlezzzze! You think the local farmer does different that's
better, NOT! You watch too much sci fi. I've plenty local farmers
nearby, I won't buy even their eggs, nothing is inspected at the
farm. They ship most to a large processing plant, there the USDA
inspects, many times a small farmer's entire batch is rejected and
destroyed due to disease. You take a big chance buying especially
poultry from the locals, they may have good intentins and the
storybook free range but they follow few if any health guidelines.
Where I live anyone can raise poultry and sell from home and they
do. Right arond the corner from me less than a two minute walk a new
family moved in and is raising chickens, they have a big sign in front
"Eggs For Sale". I met them, they're very nice people, even though
their chickes are out all over the road, but I know better than to buy
uninspected eggs, that's riskier than buying a Rollex from a guy in
trench coat on a NYC street corner. I get my eggs from the Stewarts
in town.

http://www.stewartsshops.com/Content...y&ContentID=49

In article <191108.045723rfc1571.187@sqwertz.com>,
Sqwertz <swertz@cluemail.compost> wrote:

> "Pete C." <aux3.DOH.4@snet.net> wrote:
>
> > Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> >> Hormone use in poultry production has been illegal for over 40
> >> years.
> >
> > And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a hunting
> > license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
> > product.
>
> So much for hormone-free turkey.
>
> -sw

It'd probably be really tough too. While I'm all for wild game, it
drastically changes the cooking technique for the most part.
Flavor may be richer, but texture tends to suffer.

I've cooked "hard" roosters so I know about eating adult birds. <g>
--
Peace! Om

"Our prime purpose in this life is to help others. And if you can't help them, at least don't hurt them." -- Dalai Lama

In article <svUUk.67389$De7.27413@bignews7.bellsouth.net>,
George Shirley <gshirl@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Not@Valid.invalid wrote:
> > On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:26:21 -0600, "Pete C." <aux3.DOH.4@snet.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >> And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a hunting
> >> license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
> >> product.
> >
> > Do tell, WHERE in Southern California you can find wild turkeys??
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Los Angeles?

Sacramento.
--
Peace! Om

"Our prime purpose in this life is to help others. And if you can't help them, at least don't hurt them." -- Dalai Lama

On Nov 18, 9:26�pm, "Pete C." <aux3.DO...@snet.net> wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
>
> > BD <no...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > Why buy one of those horribly raised, hormone laden, tasteless turkeys
> > > anyway? �Safeway did you a favor. �Contact your localfarmer.
>
> > It's always nice to hear from somebody who has all their facts
> > straight. �Unfortunately, you're not one of them.
>
> > Hormone use in poultry production has been illegal for over 40
> > years.
>
> > -sw
>
> And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a hunting
> license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
> product.

I feed them, they like the inexpensive store brand dried cereals.
They're extremely gamey, they don't taste anything like the turkey
folks are used to... but they're a magnificent bird... sadly most are
murdered for "sport" and left to rot. I shoot them, but with a camera
only. It's hunting season now, be cautious going out and about, the
drunken riotous impotent fools are all over waving their only
manlihood.

Omelet wrote:
>
> In article <191108.045723rfc1571.187@sqwertz.com>,
> Sqwertz <swertz@cluemail.compost> wrote:
>
> > "Pete C." <aux3.DOH.4@snet.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Sqwertz wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hormone use in poultry production has been illegal for over 40
> > >> years.
> > >
> > > And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a hunting
> > > license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
> > > product.
> >
> > So much for hormone-free turkey.
> >
> > -sw
>
> It'd probably be really tough too. While I'm all for wild game, it
> drastically changes the cooking technique for the most part.
> Flavor may be richer, but texture tends to suffer.

Well, for turkey at least, the texture improves significantly. Domestic
turkeys tend to have the texture of those pulp drink holder trays.

Kathleen wrote:
>
> Pete C. wrote:
>
> > Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> >>BD <noone@verizon.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Why buy one of those horribly raised, hormone laden, tasteless turkeys
> >>>anyway? Safeway did you a favor. Contact your local farmer.
> >>
> >>It's always nice to hear from somebody who has all their facts
> >>straight. Unfortunately, you're not one of them.
> >>
> >>Hormone use in poultry production has been illegal for over 40
> >>years.
> >>
> >>-sw
> >
> >
> > And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a hunting
> > license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
> > product.
>
> Or go out on your mountain bike, minding your own business, and have one
> of those horrible, flappy, dinosaur-looking things kill itelf by
> crashing into YOUR HEAD.
>
> Although the free price tag hardly makes up for the co-pay on the ER
> visit for stitches.
>
> And no, it wasn't me, it was a friend, although I've had numerous close
> encounters with the damned things. I know exactly why "bird brain" came
> into common use as an insult. And squirrels. Don't even get me started
> on squirrels.

It's not that wild turkeys are stupid, they just aren't very good at
flight and can't make drastic course corrections, much like a big cargo
plane. I'm sure that turkey was madly doing the "pull up! pull up!"
thing, but it's aerodynamics just wouldn't cooperate.

Pete C. wrote:

> Kathleen wrote:
>
>>Pete C. wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>BD <noone@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Why buy one of those horribly raised, hormone laden, tasteless turkeys
>>>>>anyway? Safeway did you a favor. Contact your local farmer.
>>>>
>>>>It's always nice to hear from somebody who has all their facts
>>>>straight. Unfortunately, you're not one of them.
>>>>
>>>>Hormone use in poultry production has been illegal for over 40
>>>>years.
>>>>
>>>>-sw
>>>
>>>
>>>And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a hunting
>>>license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
>>>product.
>>
>>Or go out on your mountain bike, minding your own business, and have one
>>of those horrible, flappy, dinosaur-looking things kill itelf by
>>crashing into YOUR HEAD.
>>
>>Although the free price tag hardly makes up for the co-pay on the ER
>>visit for stitches.
>>
>>And no, it wasn't me, it was a friend, although I've had numerous close
>>encounters with the damned things. I know exactly why "bird brain" came
>>into common use as an insult. And squirrels. Don't even get me started
>>on squirrels.
>
>
> It's not that wild turkeys are stupid, they just aren't very good at
> flight and can't make drastic course corrections, much like a big cargo
> plane. I'm sure that turkey was madly doing the "pull up! pull up!"
> thing, but it's aerodynamics just wouldn't cooperate.

Huh. Seems like an evolutionary disadvantage given that they live in an
environment full of trees.

In article <NGWUk.20788$VN1.3130@newsfe02.iad>,
Kathleen <khhfmdeletethis@charter.net> wrote:

> Pete C. wrote:
>
> > Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> >>BD <noone@verizon.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Why buy one of those horribly raised, hormone laden, tasteless turkeys
> >>>anyway? Safeway did you a favor. Contact your local farmer.
> >>
> >>It's always nice to hear from somebody who has all their facts
> >>straight. Unfortunately, you're not one of them.
> >>
> >>Hormone use in poultry production has been illegal for over 40
> >>years.
> >>
> >>-sw
> >
> >
> > And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a hunting
> > license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
> > product.
>
> Or go out on your mountain bike, minding your own business, and have one
> of those horrible, flappy, dinosaur-looking things kill itelf by
> crashing into YOUR HEAD.
>
> Although the free price tag hardly makes up for the co-pay on the ER
> visit for stitches.
>
> And no, it wasn't me, it was a friend, although I've had numerous close
> encounters with the damned things. I know exactly why "bird brain" came
> into common use as an insult. And squirrels. Don't even get me started
> on squirrels.

Squirrels commit suicide around here on a regular basis.
One of them knocked my power out for 2 hours not too long ago...

I took pics. Fried squirrel. <g>

They are not too bright and earn Darwin awards.
--
Peace! Om

"Our prime purpose in this life is to help others. And if you can't help them, at least don't hurt them." -- Dalai Lama

Kathleen wrote:
>
> Pete C. wrote:
>
> > Kathleen wrote:
> >
> >>Pete C. wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Sqwertz wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>BD <noone@verizon.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Why buy one of those horribly raised, hormone laden, tasteless turkeys
> >>>>>anyway? Safeway did you a favor. Contact your local farmer.
> >>>>
> >>>>It's always nice to hear from somebody who has all their facts
> >>>>straight. Unfortunately, you're not one of them.
> >>>>
> >>>>Hormone use in poultry production has been illegal for over 40
> >>>>years.
> >>>>
> >>>>-sw
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a hunting
> >>>license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
> >>>product.
> >>
> >>Or go out on your mountain bike, minding your own business, and have one
> >>of those horrible, flappy, dinosaur-looking things kill itelf by
> >>crashing into YOUR HEAD.
> >>
> >>Although the free price tag hardly makes up for the co-pay on the ER
> >>visit for stitches.
> >>
> >>And no, it wasn't me, it was a friend, although I've had numerous close
> >>encounters with the damned things. I know exactly why "bird brain" came
> >>into common use as an insult. And squirrels. Don't even get me started
> >>on squirrels.
> >
> >
> > It's not that wild turkeys are stupid, they just aren't very good at
> > flight and can't make drastic course corrections, much like a big cargo
> > plane. I'm sure that turkey was madly doing the "pull up! pull up!"
> > thing, but it's aerodynamics just wouldn't cooperate.
>
> Huh. Seems like an evolutionary disadvantage given that they live in an
> environment full of trees.

Trees don't move into their flight path like humans on mountain bikes
do.

Turkeys roost in trees. Turkeys need a running start to take off from
the ground and in heavy snow they won't come down to feed because they
know they can't get airborne again and will be easy prey for bobcats and
such. Turkeys have been known to starve to death and fall out of the
trees when there is heavy snow.

In article
<1d7585ff-2cc5-4bf3-b6b7-2cb7b0ead399@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
Sheldon <PENMART01@aol.com> wrote:

> On Nov 18, 9:26?pm, "Pete C." <aux3.DO...@snet.net> wrote:
> > Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> > > BD <no...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > Why buy one of those horribly raised, hormone laden, tasteless turkeys
> > > > anyway? ?Safeway did you a favor. ?Contact your local farmer.
> >
> > > It's always nice to hear from somebody who has all their facts
> > > straight. ?Unfortunately, you're not one of them.
> >
> > > Hormone use in poultry production has been illegal for over 40
> > > years.
> >
> > > -sw
> >
> > And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a hunting
> > license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
> > product.
>
> I feed them, they like the inexpensive store brand dried cereals.
> They're extremely gamey, they don't taste anything like the turkey
> folks are used to... but they're a magnificent bird... sadly most are
> murdered for "sport" and left to rot. I shoot them, but with a camera
> only. It's hunting season now, be cautious going out and about, the
> drunken riotous impotent fools are all over waving their only
> manlihood.

Sheldon, it sounds like you have packs of seriously shitty people
hunting in your area. That sucks.

Please don't paint all hunters with the same brush. Some actually DO
hunt for food.

I'm not enamored of trophy hunters either.
--
Peace! Om

"Our prime purpose in this life is to help others. And if you can't help them, at least don't hurt them." -- Dalai Lama

Omelet wrote:
>
> In article
> <1d7585ff-2cc5-4bf3-b6b7-2cb7b0ead399@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
> Sheldon <PENMART01@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 18, 9:26?pm, "Pete C." <aux3.DO...@snet.net> wrote:
> > > Sqwertz wrote:
> > >
> > > > BD <no...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Why buy one of those horribly raised, hormone laden, tasteless turkeys
> > > > > anyway? ?Safeway did you a favor. ?Contact your local farmer.
> > >
> > > > It's always nice to hear from somebody who has all their facts
> > > > straight. ?Unfortunately, you're not one of them.
> > >
> > > > Hormone use in poultry production has been illegal for over 40
> > > > years.
> > >
> > > > -sw
> > >
> > > And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a hunting
> > > license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
> > > product.
> >
> > I feed them, they like the inexpensive store brand dried cereals.
> > They're extremely gamey, they don't taste anything like the turkey
> > folks are used to... but they're a magnificent bird... sadly most are
> > murdered for "sport" and left to rot. I shoot them, but with a camera
> > only. It's hunting season now, be cautious going out and about, the
> > drunken riotous impotent fools are all over waving their only
> > manlihood.
>
> Sheldon, it sounds like you have packs of seriously shitty people
> hunting in your area. That sucks.
>
> Please don't paint all hunters with the same brush. Some actually DO
> hunt for food.
>
> I'm not enamored of trophy hunters either.

I have some folks that hunt on my property (I hunt there occasionally
too when I get a chance), and all the turkey and deer that are harvested
are indeed processed and consumed.

In article <9sf7i45747oj924fnclb8v1jg7ee334o2u@4ax.com>,
Not@Valid.invalid wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:58:55 GMT, notbob <notbob@nothome.com> wrote:
>
> >I've been going to Safeway to buy their great turkey bargains for over 30
> >yrs. Never have I encountered a problem. Go in, buy turkey, go out. Today,
> >we went to our local Safeway to buy the advertised turkey sale of $5/$7
> >turkeys, as we/I have done some many times before. Low and behold. once in
> >the store, we were confronted with a disclaimer sign above each frozen
> >turkey bin informing us that we must buy $25 worth of groceries to get said
> >discount! This was not in the flyer. Upon questioning Safeway storedroid,
> >I was informed this was policy for whole Denver district stores.
> >
> >Have any other of you rfc regulars... about the country.... encountered this
> >extortion sales gambit?
>
> I can't remember, EVER, a turkey sale at Thanksgiving that didn't
> require a minimum purchase, WITH exclusions on alcohol and milk!
>
> And I'm 60.

That's odd. Which Safeway do you shop at?

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
dabel@sonic.net

In article <60g7i4pd51cecf2p77cird60ggrfgs7mai@4ax.com>,
Not@Valid.invalid wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:20:14 GMT, notbob <notbob@nothome.com> wrote:
>
>
> >Would that it was! This after driving 20 miles (hello ...price of gas!)
> >miles
>
> Relevant a while ago, NOT now with it back under $2.

Tell that to our friends in Italy, Germany and the UK. Not to mention
California.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
dabel@sonic.net

In article <ompomelet-699327.10083919112008@news.giganews.com>,
Omelet <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <svUUk.67389$De7.27413@bignews7.bellsouth.net>,
> George Shirley <gshirl@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > Not@Valid.invalid wrote:
> > > On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:26:21 -0600, "Pete C." <aux3.DOH.4@snet.net>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a hunting
> > >> license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
> > >> product.
> > >
> > > Do tell, WHERE in Southern California you can find wild turkeys??
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Los Angeles?
>
> Sacramento.

Oops! They moved Sacramento?

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
dabel@sonic.net

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:59:29 -0600, Sqwertz <swertz@cluemail.compost>
wrote:

>Our chain of HEB's here in TX usually offer $.19/lb turkeys with
>additional purchase of $25, or $.09/lb for additional $50 purchase.
>Every year it's different, but it's always a deal. I usually end of
>up with 2 or 3 depending on how much room is in the fridge/freezer.

We have Kroger locally, and Randall's. Kroger is within walking
distance. We use their "loyalty card" for smalll discounts, usually on
their house brand stuff, some of which is pretty good. Last week I got
a pkg in the mail with a bunch of discount coupons and promo stuff,
onfe of which was a coupon for a free turkey. No strings attached!
That loyalty card also gets us 10cts off the posted price of gasoline.

Alex

In article <492444d9$0$12829$ec3e2dad@unlimited.usenetmonster .com>,
"Pete C." <aux3.DOH.4@snet.net> wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> >
> > In article
> > <1d7585ff-2cc5-4bf3-b6b7-2cb7b0ead399@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
> > Sheldon <PENMART01@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Nov 18, 9:26?pm, "Pete C." <aux3.DO...@snet.net> wrote:
> > > > Sqwertz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > BD <no...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > Why buy one of those horribly raised, hormone laden, tasteless
> > > > > > turkeys
> > > > > > anyway? ?Safeway did you a favor. ?Contact your local farmer.
> > > >
> > > > > It's always nice to hear from somebody who has all their facts
> > > > > straight. ?Unfortunately, you're not one of them.
> > > >
> > > > > Hormone use in poultry production has been illegal for over 40
> > > > > years.
> > > >
> > > > > -sw
> > > >
> > > > And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a hunting
> > > > license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
> > > > product.
> > >
> > > I feed them, they like the inexpensive store brand dried cereals.
> > > They're extremely gamey, they don't taste anything like the turkey
> > > folks are used to... but they're a magnificent bird... sadly most are
> > > murdered for "sport" and left to rot. I shoot them, but with a camera
> > > only. It's hunting season now, be cautious going out and about, the
> > > drunken riotous impotent fools are all over waving their only
> > > manlihood.
> >
> > Sheldon, it sounds like you have packs of seriously shitty people
> > hunting in your area. That sucks.
> >
> > Please don't paint all hunters with the same brush. Some actually DO
> > hunt for food.
> >
> > I'm not enamored of trophy hunters either.
>
> I have some folks that hunt on my property (I hunt there occasionally
> too when I get a chance), and all the turkey and deer that are harvested
> are indeed processed and consumed.

I hope you get hunting lease fees?
--
Peace! Om

"Our prime purpose in this life is to help others. And if you can't help them, at least don't hurt them." -- Dalai Lama

In article
<dabel-6D340B.09034319112008@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,
Dan Abel <dabel@sonic.net> wrote:

> In article <ompomelet-699327.10083919112008@news.giganews.com>,
> Omelet <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <svUUk.67389$De7.27413@bignews7.bellsouth.net>,
> > George Shirley <gshirl@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Not@Valid.invalid wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:26:21 -0600, "Pete C." <aux3.DOH.4@snet.net>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> And besides, if you want a real turkey, you get a shotgun and a hunting
> > > >> license and go shoot a real wild one yourself for a vastly superior
> > > >> product.
> > > >
> > > > Do tell, WHERE in Southern California you can find wild turkeys??
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Los Angeles?
> >
> > Sacramento.
>
> Oops! They moved Sacramento?

Sacramento is the capitol of California.
--
Peace! Om

"Our prime purpose in this life is to help others. And if you can't help them, at least don't hurt them." -- Dalai Lama

On 2008-11-19, Dan Abel <dabel@sonic.net> wrote:

> Makes sense, though. With the old Safeway, you could afford to buy
> stuff that wasn't on sale. Now you can't. Since the turkey is a loss
> leader, they've got to get their money somewhere else. If people come
> in and just get the turkey, Safeway loses.

makes sense, Dan.

nb