Thread: It it right to add sugar into milk?

On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 08:21:33 +0000, emmy007
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>Some parents think that milk with sugar is easy to digest for babies.
>Actually, sugar is used to increase calorie from carbohydrate, but the
>amount should be proper. Generally, adding 5-8 grams sugar per 100 ml
>milk is proper. Too much sugar may disturb infants' growth.
>
>What is the best sugar for 'milk'


How incredibly dumb. Teach infants they can get sugar any time they
want.

"Ed Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]..
> On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 08:21:33 +0000, emmy007
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>Some parents think that milk with sugar is easy to digest for babies.
>>Actually, sugar is used to increase calorie from carbohydrate, but the
>>amount should be proper. Generally, adding 5-8 grams sugar per 100 ml
>>milk is proper. Too much sugar may disturb infants' growth.
>>
>>What is the best sugar for 'milk'
>
>
> How incredibly dumb. Teach infants they can get sugar any time they
> want.

Well, infants shouldn't have milk unless it is breast milk.

On Oct 17, 5:03*am, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
> "Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]..
>
> > On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 08:21:33 +0000, emmy007
> > <emmy007.8e1a448.862...@foodbanter.com> wrote:
>
> >>Some parents think that milk with sugar is easy to digest for babies.
> >>Actually, sugar is used to increase calorie from carbohydrate, but the
> >>amount should be proper. Generally, adding 5-8 grams sugar per 100 ml
> >>milk is proper. Too much sugar may disturb infants' growth.
>
> >>What is the best sugar for 'milk'
>
> > How incredibly dumb. *Teach infants they can get sugar any time they
> > want.
>
> Well, infants shouldn't have milk unless it is breast milk.

And human breast milk is all the food and water an infant needs, until
it's weaned to other foods.

Mother Nature is amazing!

John Kuthe, RN...

On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 06:00:21 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 08:21:33 +0000, emmy007
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>Some parents think that milk with sugar is easy to digest for babies.
>>Actually, sugar is used to increase calorie from carbohydrate, but the
>>amount should be proper. Generally, adding 5-8 grams sugar per 100 ml
>>milk is proper. Too much sugar may disturb infants' growth.
>>
>>What is the best sugar for 'milk'
>
>
>How incredibly dumb. Teach infants they can get sugar any time they
>want.

At least you trimmed the spam link.

Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:

> How incredibly dumb. Teach infants they can get sugar any time they
> want.


Gerber, the baby food company played a dirty trick on parents AND babies
by adding sugar to their baby foods. So Mom or Pop could taste a small
bit and feel assured that it would taste good to baby. But babies don't
have developed taste buds so in actuality, bland is better as long as the
right nutrients are there.

I don't know if Gerber did away with added sugar. I remember it
infuriated parents, with good reason!

Milk already contains milk sugar.

There's no accurate measure for adding sugar to anything since there's no
established Recommended Daily Allowance numbers. It's a "to taste" thing,
"one lump or two?"

I'm with you Ed! Another absurd post by the bozos on foodbanter.

Andy

On Oct 17, 6:15*am, Andy <a...@b.c> wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.net> wrote:
> > How incredibly dumb. *Teach infants they can get sugar any time they
> > want.
>
> Gerber, the baby food company played a dirty trick on parents AND babies
> by adding sugar to their baby foods. So Mom or Pop could taste a small
> bit and feel assured that it would taste good to baby. But babies don't
> have developed taste buds so in actuality, bland is better as long as the
> right nutrients are there.
>
> I don't know if Gerber did away with added sugar. I remember it
> infuriated parents, with good reason!
>
> Milk already contains milk sugar.
....

Primarily lactose, if I'm not mistaken, which I don't think I am, or I
would not have posted.

John Kuthe, RN...

"Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]..
> Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> How incredibly dumb. Teach infants they can get sugar any time they
>> want.
>
>
> Gerber, the baby food company played a dirty trick on parents AND babies
> by adding sugar to their baby foods. So Mom or Pop could taste a small
> bit and feel assured that it would taste good to baby. But babies don't
> have developed taste buds so in actuality, bland is better as long as the
> right nutrients are there.
>
> I don't know if Gerber did away with added sugar. I remember it
> infuriated parents, with good reason!
>
> Milk already contains milk sugar.
>
> There's no accurate measure for adding sugar to anything since there's no
> established Recommended Daily Allowance numbers. It's a "to taste" thing,
> "one lump or two?"
>
> I'm with you Ed! Another absurd post by the bozos on foodbanter.
>

There is no sugar or salt in baby food. Hasn't been for many years.

On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 07:16:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]..
>> Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> How incredibly dumb. Teach infants they can get sugar any time they
>>> want.
>>
>>
>> Gerber, the baby food company played a dirty trick on parents AND babies
>> by adding sugar to their baby foods. So Mom or Pop could taste a small
>> bit and feel assured that it would taste good to baby. But babies don't
>> have developed taste buds so in actuality, bland is better as long as the
>> right nutrients are there.
>>
>> I don't know if Gerber did away with added sugar. I remember it
>> infuriated parents, with good reason!
>>
>> Milk already contains milk sugar.
>>
>> There's no accurate measure for adding sugar to anything since there's no
>> established Recommended Daily Allowance numbers. It's a "to taste" thing,
>> "one lump or two?"
>>
>> I'm with you Ed! Another absurd post by the bozos on foodbanter.
>>
>
>There is no sugar or salt in baby food. Hasn't been for many years.
>
You might want to stroll the aisles and read a few labels before you
make such a claim.

Meanwhile, read up on this Canadian studies...the commercial baby &
toddler foods do not differ too much between there and the US.

http://jpubhealth.oxfordjournals.org...t/33/1/63.full

Boron

"Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote:

> There is no sugar or salt in baby food. Hasn't been for many years.


Julie,

I forget when Gerber was exposed but at least 40 years ago during my senior
high school project on food additives.

I can't remember if it was a legal complaint, a food industry watchdog
matter or company whistleblower.

Best,

Andy

On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:54:01 -0400, Boron Elgar
<[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 07:16:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]..
> >> Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> How incredibly dumb. Teach infants they can get sugar any time they
> >>> want.
> >>
> >>
> >> Gerber, the baby food company played a dirty trick on parents AND babies
> >> by adding sugar to their baby foods. So Mom or Pop could taste a small
> >> bit and feel assured that it would taste good to baby. But babies don't
> >> have developed taste buds so in actuality, bland is better as long as the
> >> right nutrients are there.
> >>
> >> I don't know if Gerber did away with added sugar. I remember it
> >> infuriated parents, with good reason!
> >>
> >> Milk already contains milk sugar.
> >>
> >> There's no accurate measure for adding sugar to anything since there's no
> >> established Recommended Daily Allowance numbers. It's a "to taste" thing,
> >> "one lump or two?"
> >>
> >> I'm with you Ed! Another absurd post by the bozos on foodbanter.
> >>
> >
> >There is no sugar or salt in baby food. Hasn't been for many years.
> >
> You might want to stroll the aisles and read a few labels before you
> make such a claim.
>
> Meanwhile, read up on this Canadian studies...the commercial baby &
> toddler foods do not differ too much between there and the US.
>
> http://jpubhealth.oxfordjournals.org...t/33/1/63.full
>
I don't know why parents buy commercial products when it's so easy to
make yourself. 35 years ago I had a little hand crank grinder. I put
what we were eating that night into it and made baby food from the
evening's meal. What's so hard about that?

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

In article <[email protected]>, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:


> Milk already contains milk sugar.

Milk sugar (lactose) is much less sweet than regular sugar. This cite
says it's about a third as sweet:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taste#Sweetness

> There's no accurate measure for adding sugar to anything since there's no
> established Recommended Daily Allowance numbers. It's a "to taste" thing,
> "one lump or two?"

That doesn't make sense to me. It is a little broad. In some recipes,
sugar changes the body of the result. Milk solids (which contain a lot
of lactose) are often added to commercial ice cream to change the
texture, rather than add sweetness. Corn syrup is added to baked goods
for similar reasons. The type of sugar in corn syrup is less sweet than
regular sugar.

> Another absurd post by the bozos on foodbanter.

I don't killfile the domain. I'm willing to give them a chance, at
least for a little while longer. However, this OP is a loser.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
[email protected]

Dan Abel <[email protected]> wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>> Milk already contains milk sugar.
>
> Milk sugar (lactose) is much less sweet than regular sugar. This cite
> says it's about a third as sweet:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taste#Sweetness
>
>> There's no accurate measure for adding sugar to anything since
>> there's no established Recommended Daily Allowance numbers. It's a
>> "to taste" thing, "one lump or two?"
>
> That doesn't make sense to me. It is a little broad. In some
> recipes, sugar changes the body of the result. Milk solids (which
> contain a lot of lactose) are often added to commercial ice cream to
> change the texture, rather than add sweetness. Corn syrup is added to
> baked goods for similar reasons. The type of sugar in corn syrup is
> less sweet than regular sugar.
>
>> Another absurd post by the bozos on foodbanter.
>
> I don't killfile the domain. I'm willing to give them a chance, at
> least for a little while longer. However, this OP is a loser.


Dan,

I don't block foodbander either. One never knows if there might just be a
gem in the dirt! It just bugs me that they mirror rfc onto their web
forum instead of just participating here.

Your other points are also well appreciated.

Best,

Andy

"Boron Elgar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]..
> On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 07:16:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]..
>>> Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> How incredibly dumb. Teach infants they can get sugar any time they
>>>> want.
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerber, the baby food company played a dirty trick on parents AND babies
>>> by adding sugar to their baby foods. So Mom or Pop could taste a small
>>> bit and feel assured that it would taste good to baby. But babies don't
>>> have developed taste buds so in actuality, bland is better as long as
>>> the
>>> right nutrients are there.
>>>
>>> I don't know if Gerber did away with added sugar. I remember it
>>> infuriated parents, with good reason!
>>>
>>> Milk already contains milk sugar.
>>>
>>> There's no accurate measure for adding sugar to anything since there's
>>> no
>>> established Recommended Daily Allowance numbers. It's a "to taste"
>>> thing,
>>> "one lump or two?"
>>>
>>> I'm with you Ed! Another absurd post by the bozos on foodbanter.
>>>
>>
>>There is no sugar or salt in baby food. Hasn't been for many years.
>>
> You might want to stroll the aisles and read a few labels before you
> make such a claim.

Oh I have! And recently too. I do buy it for various things.
>
> Meanwhile, read up on this Canadian studies...the commercial baby &
> toddler foods do not differ too much between there and the US.
>
> http://jpubhealth.oxfordjournals.org...t/33/1/63.full

And I'm talking strictly baby food. Not toddler.

"sf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]..
> On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:54:01 -0400, Boron Elgar
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 07:16:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected]..
>> >> Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> How incredibly dumb. Teach infants they can get sugar any time they
>> >>> want.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Gerber, the baby food company played a dirty trick on parents AND
>> >> babies
>> >> by adding sugar to their baby foods. So Mom or Pop could taste a small
>> >> bit and feel assured that it would taste good to baby. But babies
>> >> don't
>> >> have developed taste buds so in actuality, bland is better as long as
>> >> the
>> >> right nutrients are there.
>> >>
>> >> I don't know if Gerber did away with added sugar. I remember it
>> >> infuriated parents, with good reason!
>> >>
>> >> Milk already contains milk sugar.
>> >>
>> >> There's no accurate measure for adding sugar to anything since there's
>> >> no
>> >> established Recommended Daily Allowance numbers. It's a "to taste"
>> >> thing,
>> >> "one lump or two?"
>> >>
>> >> I'm with you Ed! Another absurd post by the bozos on foodbanter.
>> >>
>> >
>> >There is no sugar or salt in baby food. Hasn't been for many years.
>> >
>> You might want to stroll the aisles and read a few labels before you
>> make such a claim.
>>
>> Meanwhile, read up on this Canadian studies...the commercial baby &
>> toddler foods do not differ too much between there and the US.
>>
>> http://jpubhealth.oxfordjournals.org...t/33/1/63.full
>>
> I don't know why parents buy commercial products when it's so easy to
> make yourself. 35 years ago I had a little hand crank grinder. I put
> what we were eating that night into it and made baby food from the
> evening's meal. What's so hard about that?

They buy it because it's convenient and can be kept shelf stable in a diaper
bag for when you're on the go.

I had one of those little devices too and never used it. My daughter got
her teeth early and began eating real food. She grabbed it right off of my
plate. I think she had baby food for maybe 2 months, if that.

"Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]..
> "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> There is no sugar or salt in baby food. Hasn't been for many years.
>
>
> Julie,
>
> I forget when Gerber was exposed but at least 40 years ago during my
> senior
> high school project on food additives.
>
> I can't remember if it was a legal complaint, a food industry watchdog
> matter or company whistleblower.
>
> Best,
>
> Andy

Here's the Beechnut website.

http://www.beechnut.com/

No sugar or salt in those baby foods. I didn't look at the toddler foods
because we're talking baby.

Now I'll look up the Gerber.

http://www.gerber.com/allstages/prod...FacaQgodGnvtJA

No sugar or salt in there either!

On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:23:13 -0700, "Julie Bove"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Boron Elgar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]. .
>> On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 07:16:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]..
>>>> Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> How incredibly dumb. Teach infants they can get sugar any time they
>>>>> want.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gerber, the baby food company played a dirty trick on parents AND babies
>>>> by adding sugar to their baby foods. So Mom or Pop could taste a small
>>>> bit and feel assured that it would taste good to baby. But babies don't
>>>> have developed taste buds so in actuality, bland is better as long as
>>>> the
>>>> right nutrients are there.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know if Gerber did away with added sugar. I remember it
>>>> infuriated parents, with good reason!
>>>>
>>>> Milk already contains milk sugar.
>>>>
>>>> There's no accurate measure for adding sugar to anything since there's
>>>> no
>>>> established Recommended Daily Allowance numbers. It's a "to taste"
>>>> thing,
>>>> "one lump or two?"
>>>>
>>>> I'm with you Ed! Another absurd post by the bozos on foodbanter.
>>>>
>>>
>>>There is no sugar or salt in baby food. Hasn't been for many years.
>>>
>> You might want to stroll the aisles and read a few labels before you
>> make such a claim.
>
>Oh I have! And recently too. I do buy it for various things.
>>
>> Meanwhile, read up on this Canadian studies...the commercial baby &
>> toddler foods do not differ too much between there and the US.
>>
>> http://jpubhealth.oxfordjournals.org...t/33/1/63.full
>
>And I'm talking strictly baby food. Not toddler.
>

Baby foods are included in the study, so you are still wrong.

Boron

"Boron Elgar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]..
> On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:23:13 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Boron Elgar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected] ..
>>> On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 07:16:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected]..
>>>>> Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> How incredibly dumb. Teach infants they can get sugar any time they
>>>>>> want.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gerber, the baby food company played a dirty trick on parents AND
>>>>> babies
>>>>> by adding sugar to their baby foods. So Mom or Pop could taste a small
>>>>> bit and feel assured that it would taste good to baby. But babies
>>>>> don't
>>>>> have developed taste buds so in actuality, bland is better as long as
>>>>> the
>>>>> right nutrients are there.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know if Gerber did away with added sugar. I remember it
>>>>> infuriated parents, with good reason!
>>>>>
>>>>> Milk already contains milk sugar.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's no accurate measure for adding sugar to anything since there's
>>>>> no
>>>>> established Recommended Daily Allowance numbers. It's a "to taste"
>>>>> thing,
>>>>> "one lump or two?"
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm with you Ed! Another absurd post by the bozos on foodbanter.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>There is no sugar or salt in baby food. Hasn't been for many years.
>>>>
>>> You might want to stroll the aisles and read a few labels before you
>>> make such a claim.
>>
>>Oh I have! And recently too. I do buy it for various things.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, read up on this Canadian studies...the commercial baby &
>>> toddler foods do not differ too much between there and the US.
>>>
>>> http://jpubhealth.oxfordjournals.org...t/33/1/63.full
>>
>>And I'm talking strictly baby food. Not toddler.
>>
>
> Baby foods are included in the study, so you are still wrong.

Could you tell me what brands then? Because I posted links to both Gerber
and Beechnut and neither contain sugar or salt. The only other brands that
I know about in this country are organic ones. All safe. My daughter is 13
now and when she was a baby there was no food with sugar or salt in it for
babies. I don't think that has changed.

In article <[email protected]>,
emmy007 <[email protected]> wrote:

> Some parents think that milk with sugar is easy to digest for babies.
> Actually, sugar is used to increase calorie from carbohydrate, but the
> amount should be proper. Generally, adding 5-8 grams sugar per 100 ml
> milk is proper. Too much sugar may disturb infants' growth.

The only foods that should be given to infants are breastmilk or infant
formula. Not cow's milk, and definitely not with sucrose added.

Miche

--
Electricians do it in three phases

Quoth sf~

> I don't know why parents buy commercial products when it's so easy to make
> yourself. 35 years ago I had a little hand crank grinder. I put what we
> were eating that night into it and made baby food from the evening's meal.
> What's so hard about that?

Nothing, to you and I. But now try convincing some of these trendy young
20-something hippy-dippy moms nowdays that it's even doable....yes,
the same hippy-dippy moms who think it's okay to take your baby out in the
jogging stroller on a 40-degree windy day without so much as a coat, or
even at least a hood!

What makes you believe they'd be intelligent enough to figure out how to
make their own baby food?

(Yes, I know I sound like a cranky old man [and I suppose I probably am]
but honestly, it amazes me that the younger generations even manage to
survive year-to-year...)

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