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    [email protected] Guest

    Default Restaurants - Optimist or Pessimist

    The discussion of control dishes when visiting a new restaurant gave
    me this insight:

    an optimist would order the hardest dish under the theory that if they
    get that right then simpler dishes should be a snap, and they can work
    their way down.

    a pessimist would order the easist dish under the theory that if they
    get that wrong then any more difficult dish is beyond them. If the
    restaurant does get it right, they'll work their way up in increasing
    difficulty.

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    sf Guest

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    On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:29:50 -0700 (PDT), [email protected]
    wrote:

    >The discussion of control dishes when visiting a new restaurant gave
    >me this insight:
    >
    >an optimist would order the hardest dish under the theory that if they
    >get that right then simpler dishes should be a snap, and they can work
    >their way down.
    >
    >a pessimist would order the easist dish under the theory that if they
    >get that wrong then any more difficult dish is beyond them. If the
    >restaurant does get it right, they'll work their way up in increasing
    >difficulty.


    Eating in a restaurant doesn't have to be a controlled science
    experiment. Why not just order what you want to eat and go from
    there? I'm a restaurant slut... I eat all around town.


    --
    I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

    Mae West

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    Andy Guest

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    sf said...

    > Eating in a restaurant doesn't have to be a controlled science
    > experiment. Why not just order what you want to eat and go from
    > there? I'm a restaurant slut... I eat all around town.



    I pinch myself that I know this woman! ))

    Though we have yet to dine.

    Andy

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    Dimitri Guest

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    "sf" wrote in message news:[email protected]..
    > On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:29:50 -0700 (PDT), [email protected]
    > wrote:




    > Eating in a restaurant doesn't have to be a controlled science
    > experiment. Why not just order what you want to eat and go from
    > there? I'm a restaurant slut... I eat all around town.
    >
    >
    > --
    > I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the
    > number of carats in a diamond.
    >
    > Mae West


    My problem with restaurants is twofold:

    First I think I have eaten at too many of some of the best in America over
    the years.

    Second for the most part I am unimpressed with the menu the presentation and
    of course the food.

    If you live in Mexico for a period of time Mexican restaurants here are for
    the most part garbage.

    Chicago had the best Greek food
    'NYC the best American/Italian & Steaks (well just about everything)
    San Francisco the best cioppino
    LA well LA - Hmmm Coleslaw from the Pantry & Dodger Dogs
    Want Great Pork chops get thyself to Iowa
    Want Great Sushi - Torrance California
    I could go on and on

    My problem now is simple 90% of the time I go to a restaurant I can do it
    better at home.

    In desperation the other day we stopped at a Marie Calendars for lunch - The
    cornbread was hot - nuked dry and the ham stack was the leftover breakfast
    ham slices. Oh yes it certainly wasn't stacked they should have changed the
    name to a ham FLAT.


    --
    Old Scoundrel (Grumpy today)

    (AKA Dimitri)


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    sf Guest

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    On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:11:04 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:

    >sf said...
    >
    >> Eating in a restaurant doesn't have to be a controlled science
    >> experiment. Why not just order what you want to eat and go from
    >> there? I'm a restaurant slut... I eat all around town.

    >
    >
    >I pinch myself that I know this woman! ))
    >
    >Though we have yet to dine.
    >

    Come visit me and I'll make you a very happy man! )


    --
    I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

    Mae West

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    sf Guest

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    On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:09:27 -0700, "Dimitri" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >My problem now is simple 90% of the time I go to a restaurant I can do it
    >better at home.


    I know the feeling, but there are a lot of things I don't want to make
    at home. Some are simple, some are not. For instance, I don't make
    hamburgers at home anymore. They are strictly a restaurant experience
    now and I have a favorite place where I only order burgers.


    --
    I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

    Mae West

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    KevinS Guest

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    On Jul 10, 12:30�pm, sf wrote:

    > I know the feeling, but there are a lot of things I don't
    > want to make at home. �Some are simple, some are
    > not. �For instance, I don't make hamburgers at home
    > anymore. �They are strictly a restaurant experience
    > now and I have a favorite place where I only order
    > burgers.


    I like eating out. I usually have a good or better meal and
    decent or better service. I don't go with a chip on my
    shoulder determined in advance to dislike it .

    I think that means I'm basically with you.

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    Lou Decruss Guest

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    On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:09:27 -0700, "Dimitri" <[email protected]>
    wrote:


    >My problem with restaurants is twofold:
    >
    >First I think I have eaten at too many of some of the best in America over
    >the years.


    I wouldn't call that a problem. I'd call it a good benchmark.

    >Second for the most part I am unimpressed with the menu the presentation and
    >of course the food.


    Just admit it Dimitri, you're a food snob. It's ok. It's an
    attribute.

    >If you live in Mexico for a period of time Mexican restaurants here are for
    >the most part garbage.


    I would imagine you could say that about any country.

    >Chicago had the best Greek food


    It's been a long time since I've been to Greek town, but yes there's
    great food there.

    But you missed the polish, bohemian, and czech. With the largest
    polish population outside of Warsaw there's some good comfort eats
    here.

    Next time you're in Chicago run out to the burbs and try these:

    http://www.moldaurestaurant.com/

    http://www.bohemiancrystal.net/

    http://www.sawasoldwarsaw.com/


    >'NYC the best American/Italian & Steaks (well just about everything)
    >San Francisco the best cioppino
    >LA well LA - Hmmm Coleslaw from the Pantry & Dodger Dogs
    >Want Great Pork chops get thyself to Iowa


    Iowa, central Illinois and central Indiana are all about the same and
    they do come up with some fabulous piggies. We get most of ours from
    central Illinois. The cows and corn aren't too bad either. But I've
    had some fabulous corn in Florida in the winter. I got it from a guy
    on the side of the road with a pickup full of it.

    >Want Great Sushi - Torrance California
    >I could go on and on
    >
    >My problem now is simple 90% of the time I go to a restaurant I can do it
    >better at home.


    I often wonder if it's a curse to know how to cook. But then I come
    to my senses. A few things like asian cooking I don't have mastered,
    but like you most of the time I'm very critical of the meal I'm
    served. It drives my dining companions crazy when I bitch about a
    meal when they're very happy with theirs.

    >In desperation the other day we stopped at a Marie Calendars for lunch - The
    >cornbread was hot - nuked dry and the ham stack was the leftover breakfast
    >ham slices. Oh yes it certainly wasn't stacked they should have changed the
    >name to a ham FLAT.


    But 95% of the population in the states thinks it's great. Anyone who
    reads and posts like you do is in the other 5%. We're all here to
    help you through this Dimtri. Because DAMMIT you deserve it.

    Lou














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    Wayne Boatwright Guest

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    On Thu 10 Jul 2008 06:05:23p, Lou Decruss told us...

    > On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:09:27 -0700, "Dimitri" <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >
    >>My problem with restaurants is twofold:
    >>
    >>First I think I have eaten at too many of some of the best in America
    >>over the years.

    >
    > I wouldn't call that a problem. I'd call it a good benchmark.
    >
    >>Second for the most part I am unimpressed with the menu the presentation
    >>and of course the food.

    >
    > Just admit it Dimitri, you're a food snob. It's ok. It's an
    > attribute.
    >
    >>If you live in Mexico for a period of time Mexican restaurants here are
    >>for the most part garbage.

    >
    > I would imagine you could say that about any country.
    >
    >>Chicago had the best Greek food

    >
    > It's been a long time since I've been to Greek town, but yes there's
    > great food there.
    >
    > But you missed the polish, bohemian, and czech. With the largest
    > polish population outside of Warsaw there's some good comfort eats
    > here.
    >
    > Next time you're in Chicago run out to the burbs and try these:
    >
    > http://www.moldaurestaurant.com/
    >
    > http://www.bohemiancrystal.net/
    >
    > http://www.sawasoldwarsaw.com/
    >
    >
    >>'NYC the best American/Italian & Steaks (well just about everything)
    >>San Francisco the best cioppino
    >>LA well LA - Hmmm Coleslaw from the Pantry & Dodger Dogs
    >>Want Great Pork chops get thyself to Iowa

    >
    > Iowa, central Illinois and central Indiana are all about the same and
    > they do come up with some fabulous piggies. We get most of ours from
    > central Illinois. The cows and corn aren't too bad either. But I've
    > had some fabulous corn in Florida in the winter. I got it from a guy
    > on the side of the road with a pickup full of it.
    >
    >>Want Great Sushi - Torrance California
    >>I could go on and on
    >>
    >>My problem now is simple 90% of the time I go to a restaurant I can do
    >>it better at home.

    >
    > I often wonder if it's a curse to know how to cook. But then I come
    > to my senses. A few things like asian cooking I don't have mastered,
    > but like you most of the time I'm very critical of the meal I'm
    > served. It drives my dining companions crazy when I bitch about a
    > meal when they're very happy with theirs.
    >
    >>In desperation the other day we stopped at a Marie Calendars for lunch -
    >>The cornbread was hot - nuked dry and the ham stack was the leftover
    >>breakfast ham slices. Oh yes it certainly wasn't stacked they should
    >>have changed the name to a ham FLAT.

    >
    > But 95% of the population in the states thinks it's great. Anyone who
    > reads and posts like you do is in the other 5%. We're all here to
    > help you through this Dimtri. Because DAMMIT you deserve it.
    >
    > Lou


    Now living in Arizona, one of the things I miss most about living in the
    Cleveland area are the wonderful European ethnic restaurants that abound
    there. There's nothing here to compare them to, although I have found one
    fairly decent German restaurant. I particularly miss the Hungarian, Czech,
    and Polish food.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright
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    Use DEVICE=EXXON to screw up your
    environment.
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    sf Guest

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    On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 01:17:21 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I particularly miss the Hungarian, Czech, and Polish food.


    Wow! I'm speechless. We don't have many Eastern European restaurants
    here. I remember a tiny Hungarian (gypsy) restaurant that had been
    open for several years... we (TGIF, work related, group) decided to
    eat there the day before Thanksgiving but it was closed. We (10-12 of
    us) saw movement in the kitchen, so we banged on the door. It turned
    out that they were preparing for a catered event the following day,
    but we pled our case. They let us in but we had to choose from a
    "limited" menu. What a great evening! One lady, probably the owner,
    treated us as if we were guests in their home.... she even put on
    dance music and came out to dance with us. The restaurant closed a
    couple of months after our wonderful evening (we wanted to go back).
    I guess they decided catering was a more profitable venture.

    I can get Polish food 5 minutes away from me... but that's a different
    story. Old Krakow on West Portal Ave. is still in business.
    www.oldkrakow.us



    --
    I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

    Mae West

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    Dimitri Guest

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    "Lou Decruss" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:09:27 -0700, "Dimitri" <[email protected]>
    > wrote:


    <snip>

    > But 95% of the population in the states thinks it's great. Anyone who
    > reads and posts like you do is in the other 5%. We're all here to
    > help you through this Dimtri. Because DAMMIT you deserve it.
    >
    > Lou



    When you're right you're right - no argument from this side of the gallery.

    LOL


    --
    Old Scoundrel

    (AKA Dimitri)


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