Thread: Reefer question

In article <[email protected]>,
"Steve B" <[email protected]> wrote:

> We are looking at the double wide refrigerators with the bottom freezers.
>
> I am leaning towards the 28 cu. ft. size. Seen a couple of nice ones in the
> $2,000 to $2,200 range.
>
> Anyone have one of these, and if so, would appreciate caveats and things you
> do and don't like about them. Mainly, we need a larger refrigerator for
> just the refrigerated items. The freezer would get used, too, but we have a
> freezer only in the garage, and a combo freezer/fridge.

Seriously Steve, look at ebay for those used blood bank refrigerators.
I got my 40 cubic ft. Hobart from the lab I work at for nothing. There
are several on ebay at the moment and some of them are quite
reasonable...

Craigs list might have one local to you. Many labs across the country
now sell outdated equipment on the internet as they upgrade.
--
Peace! Om

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*Only Irish *coffee provides in a single glass all four *essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar *and fat. --Alex Levine

In news:rec.food.cooking, "Steve B" <[email protected]> posted
on Sun, 11 Apr 2010 23:41:21 -0700 the following:

> We are looking at the double wide refrigerators with the bottom
> freezers.
>
> I am leaning towards the 28 cu. ft. size. Seen a couple of nice ones
> in the $2,000 to $2,200 range.
>
> Anyone have one of these, and if so, would appreciate caveats and things
> you do and don't like about them. Mainly, we need a larger refrigerator
> for just the refrigerated items. The freezer would get used, too, but
> we have a freezer only in the garage, and a combo freezer/fridge.

First, how old are you? My friend's parents (aged 77 and 79) have one of
those fridges with the freezer on the bottom, and to me, it's painful to
see either one of them have to get down on their hands and knees just to
get a glass of ice. Recently, the wife side of that couple fell down and
hurt herself pretty badly, and my friend thinks she's going to need a
walker for the rest of her life. She had trouble getting up and down
before she got that fridge, and I never have been able to figure out why
on Earth she wanted one like that in the first place. I would hate it.

I haven't lain on a creeper yet to see how the ice machine is set up, but
when I saw my friend's brother on his hands and knees digging for ice
(since he can get down on the floor more easily than his parents), it
appeared that the ice maker was attached to the top of the inside, and
container for the ice was on a shelf.

All that said, if you already have a fridge/freezer combo, then maybe it
won't be any big deal to have a freezer on the bottom on your new one.
We've got a small chest deep freezer on the back patio, a big chest deep
freezer and a freezer/fridge (freezer on top) in the utility room, and a
freezer/fridge (side-by-side) in the kitchen. Even with all that, I don't
think I'd want a bottom-style freezer. I'd get rid of two fridges if we
could get a matching set of those stainless steel units that is just a
fridge on one, and just a self-defrosting freezer on the other. Then we'd
still have the two chest freezers.

Damaeus
--
"Marihuana influences Negroes to look at white people in the eye, step on
white men's shadows and look at a white woman twice."
-William Randolph Hearst

Damaeus wrote:

> First, how old are you? My friend's parents (aged 77 and 79) have one of
> those fridges with the freezer on the bottom, and to me, it's painful to
> see either one of them have to get down on their hands and knees just to
> get a glass of ice.

huh? I don't have to do anything more strenuous than bend at the waist
to get to my ice. The ice maker is at the top of the bottom freezer
space. And it is still higher up than a fruit/veggie bin at the bottom
of a top-freezer unit.

Steve B wrote:
> We are looking at the double wide refrigerators with the bottom freezers.
>
> I am leaning towards the 28 cu. ft. size. Seen a couple of nice ones in the
> $2,000 to $2,200 range.
>
> Anyone have one of these, and if so, would appreciate caveats and things you
> do and don't like about them. Mainly, we need a larger refrigerator for
> just the refrigerated items. The freezer would get used, too, but we have a
> freezer only in the garage, and a combo freezer/fridge.
>
>


I have had one since November. The refrigerator seems much
less spacious than my old 20cu ft. top freezer model, probably
because the freezer is larger and much of the fridge storage
is in the door bins. I really love having the freezer on the
bottom, however.

gloria p

In article <[email protected]>,
"Steve B" <[email protected]> wrote:

> We are looking at the double wide refrigerators with the bottom freezers.
>
> I am leaning towards the 28 cu. ft. size. Seen a couple of nice ones in the
> $2,000 to $2,200 range.
>
> Anyone have one of these, and if so, would appreciate caveats and things you
> do and don't like about them. Mainly, we need a larger refrigerator for
> just the refrigerated items. The freezer would get used, too, but we have a
> freezer only in the garage, and a combo freezer/fridge.


I have an Amana, 22cf. I will love it until the day they put me in it
for storage.

When my old Kenmore did its death dance some years ago, I sashayed over
to Warners-Stellian to select its replacement -- all I wanted was
essentially what I'd had. I got the same total cf, BUT, in the time
between the dying one and the new one, the industry standard changed on
the ratio of chiller space to freezer space. I wasn't paying attention.
When I chose the new one, a Whirlpool, two door, freezer on top, I had
the most fleeting thought through my head that the bottom of the freezer
section door was lower that on the dying one. FLEETING thought I paid
no attention to. When I got the sucker home and started transferring
contents from one to 'tother, I had a hard time getting everything into
the fridge. W T F ??? Total cf was the same. . . . The new model,
while having the same total cf had more freezer space and less chiller
space that its predecessor. In the years between the old and the new,
the amount of freezer space in supermarkets increased DRAMATICALLY ‹
people had a lot more stuff in their freezers besides vegetables and ice
cream.

I bitched about that unit for three years. My friend The Late Widow
Geraldine had bought a bottom-freezer unit and I loved it. I wanted it.
I got one. Gave the old one (all of 3 miserable years old) to a church
organization.

My freezer compartment is a pullout drawer with a sliding basket in part
of it. It is VERY easy to access. I do not have an icemaker; I make
ice cubes.

NO WAY would I go back to a top freezer unit and am reminded of it every
time I reach for something in the vegetable drawers, the lowest part of
that fridge storage ‹ at low hip height. Accessing ANYthing in the
freezer is very easy because I can pull the drawer way out, and it's a
bend-at-the-waist to get at anything. If that were the chiller space in
a conventional arrangement, I'd be on my knees trying to find something
at the back of a shelf, it would be that low. I shudder at the very
idea. Getting down isn't the problem; getting up is. :-/

I'll never go back to a freezer-fridge combo with the freezer unit on
top, and I've never been impressed by the side-by-side freezer/fridge
configuration.

HTH.


--
Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller
Updated 4-11-2010

In article <[email protected]>,
Damaeus <[email protected]> wrote:
> First, how old are you? My friend's parents (aged 77 and 79) have one of
> those fridges with the freezer on the bottom, and to me, it's painful to
> see either one of them have to get down on their hands and knees just to
> get a glass of ice.
> Damaeus

???? I'm having a hard time picturing this. My ice cubes (bottom
freezer) are at knee level and I barely have to bend at the waist to get
to them.

--
Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller
Updated 4-11-2010

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Steve B" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > We are looking at the double wide refrigerators with the bottom freezers.
> >
> > I am leaning towards the 28 cu. ft. size. Seen a couple of nice ones in the
> > $2,000 to $2,200 range.
> >
> > Anyone have one of these, and if so, would appreciate caveats and things you
> > do and don't like about them. Mainly, we need a larger refrigerator for
> > just the refrigerated items. The freezer would get used, too, but we have a
> > freezer only in the garage, and a combo freezer/fridge.
>
> I have an Amana, 22cf. I will love it until the day they put me in it
> for storage.
>
> When my old Kenmore did its death dance some years ago, I sashayed over
> to Warners-Stellian to select its replacement -- all I wanted was
> essentially what I'd had. I got the same total cf, BUT, in the time
> between the dying one and the new one, the industry standard changed on
> the ratio of chiller space to freezer space. I wasn't paying attention.
> When I chose the new one, a Whirlpool, two door, freezer on top, I had
> the most fleeting thought through my head that the bottom of the freezer
> section door was lower that on the dying one. FLEETING thought I paid
> no attention to. When I got the sucker home and started transferring
> contents from one to 'tother, I had a hard time getting everything into
> the fridge. W T F ??? Total cf was the same. . . . The new model,
> while having the same total cf had more freezer space and less chiller
> space that its predecessor. In the years between the old and the new,
> the amount of freezer space in supermarkets increased DRAMATICALLY ‹
> people had a lot more stuff in their freezers besides vegetables and ice
> cream.
>
> I bitched about that unit for three years. My friend The Late Widow
> Geraldine had bought a bottom-freezer unit and I loved it. I wanted it.
> I got one. Gave the old one (all of 3 miserable years old) to a church
> organization.
>
> My freezer compartment is a pullout drawer with a sliding basket in part
> of it. It is VERY easy to access. I do not have an icemaker; I make
> ice cubes.
>
> NO WAY would I go back to a top freezer unit and am reminded of it every
> time I reach for something in the vegetable drawers, the lowest part of
> that fridge storage ‹ at low hip height. Accessing ANYthing in the
> freezer is very easy because I can pull the drawer way out, and it's a
> bend-at-the-waist to get at anything. If that were the chiller space in
> a conventional arrangement, I'd be on my knees trying to find something
> at the back of a shelf, it would be that low. I shudder at the very
> idea. Getting down isn't the problem; getting up is. :-/
>
> I'll never go back to a freezer-fridge combo with the freezer unit on
> top, and I've never been impressed by the side-by-side freezer/fridge
> configuration.

I generally prefer a side-by-side configuration if it's the only cold
storage around. With the side-by-side, you can organize both the
refrigerator and freezer sides in a top-down, most frequently used setup
so everything you use frequently is at no-bend height. I also like and
frequently use the in-door ice and water dispenser.

The bottom drawer freezer models are decent enough, though they
typically result in more stacking of items and more time spent shuffling
through those stacks looking for what you want. I also prefer the single
door models over the double door models as it seems that the double door
models just make the door storage less useable and the half door you
open is rarely the one you need to reach what you wanted on the regular
shelves so you have to open the other as well.

The mini pass-through doors that are available on some refrigerators are
of limited value and probably not worth bothering with.

If you have auxiliary cold storage in the garage or similar your
organization can be different and thus the needs for the kitchen cold
storage may vary.

In all cases, the horrid top freezer models that require bending over
nearly every time you access the refrigerator should be banned as
ergonomic disasters.

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Damaeus <[email protected]> wrote:
>> First, how old are you? My friend's parents (aged 77 and 79) have one of
>> those fridges with the freezer on the bottom, and to me, it's painful to
>> see either one of them have to get down on their hands and knees just to
>> get a glass of ice.
>> Damaeus
>
> ???? I'm having a hard time picturing this. My ice cubes (bottom
> freezer) are at knee level and I barely have to bend at the waist to get
> to them.
>


I agree with Ms. Jammin'

I am quite short and the slide-out drawer containing the icemaker
bin in the lower freezer is just about knee level. No kneeling
required.

gloria p

The message <hq054c$d47$[email protected]>
from "gloria.p" <[email protected]> contains these words:

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > Damaeus <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> First, how old are you? My friend's parents (aged 77 and 79) have one of
> >> those fridges with the freezer on the bottom, and to me, it's painful to
> >> see either one of them have to get down on their hands and knees just to
> >> get a glass of ice.
> >> Damaeus
> >
> > ???? I'm having a hard time picturing this. My ice cubes (bottom
> > freezer) are at knee level and I barely have to bend at the waist to get
> > to them.
> >


> I agree with Ms. Jammin'

> I am quite short and the slide-out drawer containing the icemaker
> bin in the lower freezer is just about knee level. No kneeling
> required.

On mine the fridge and freezer are the same size, fridge on top
freezer below. The ice drawer is at the top of the freezer section; I
don't even have to stoop.
For anyone with a bad back. having the fridge above the freezer is
wonderful; you can see and reach everything in it
without bending at all.

Janet

In article <[email protected]>,
"Steve B" <[email protected]> wrote:

> We are looking at the double wide refrigerators with the bottom freezers.
>
> I am leaning towards the 28 cu. ft. size. Seen a couple of nice ones in the
> $2,000 to $2,200 range.
>
> Anyone have one of these, and if so, would appreciate caveats and things you
> do and don't like about them. Mainly, we need a larger refrigerator for
> just the refrigerated items. The freezer would get used, too, but we have a
> freezer only in the garage, and a combo freezer/fridge.

I posted about our refrigerator research a couple of months ago. We
wound up buying a Samsung French door 26 cu. foot refrigerator. It's
been in exactly a month and we really, really like it. We decided
against anything with an in-door ice and/or water dispenser b/c it
takes up too much room on the inside door. The bottom freezer has a
sliding tray for smaller items and a "pizza" door for those honkin'
big frozen pizzas. The way the freezer is configured, you'd have to
work at it to "lose" anything in there. The refrigerator has a
refrigerator-width pullout drawer that I've been using for platters
and jelly roll pan-sized items. It has LED lighting, which looks cool
:-) We give it four thumbs up between us.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

--

"If the soup had been as warm as the wine,
if the wine had been as old as the turkey,
and if the turkey had had a breast like the maid,
it would have been a swell dinner." Duncan Hines


To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"

On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:59:35 -0600, "gloria.p" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> Damaeus <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> First, how old are you? My friend's parents (aged 77 and 79) have one of
>>> those fridges with the freezer on the bottom, and to me, it's painful to
>>> see either one of them have to get down on their hands and knees just to
>>> get a glass of ice.
>>> Damaeus
>>
>> ???? I'm having a hard time picturing this. My ice cubes (bottom
>> freezer) are at knee level and I barely have to bend at the waist to get
>> to them.
>>
>
>
>I agree with Ms. Jammin'
>
>I am quite short and the slide-out drawer containing the icemaker
>bin in the lower freezer is just about knee level. No kneeling
>required.
>
And I agree with you both. My bottom freezer ice bin is knee high,
too, and I'm 5'8". The only reason I'd have to get down on my hands
and knees to get the ice is if I'd been putting that ice in way too
many scotch and waters...

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

--

"If the soup had been as warm as the wine,
if the wine had been as old as the turkey,
and if the turkey had had a breast like the maid,
it would have been a swell dinner." Duncan Hines


To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"

On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:58:49 -0500, "Pete C." <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> "Steve B" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > We are looking at the double wide refrigerators with the bottom freezers.
>> >
>> > I am leaning towards the 28 cu. ft. size. Seen a couple of nice ones in the
>> > $2,000 to $2,200 range.
>> >
>> > Anyone have one of these, and if so, would appreciate caveats and things you
>> > do and don't like about them. Mainly, we need a larger refrigerator for
>> > just the refrigerated items. The freezer would get used, too, but we have a
>> > freezer only in the garage, and a combo freezer/fridge.
>>
>> I have an Amana, 22cf. I will love it until the day they put me in it
>> for storage.
>>
>> When my old Kenmore did its death dance some years ago, I sashayed over
>> to Warners-Stellian to select its replacement -- all I wanted was
>> essentially what I'd had. I got the same total cf, BUT, in the time
>> between the dying one and the new one, the industry standard changed on
>> the ratio of chiller space to freezer space. I wasn't paying attention.
>> When I chose the new one, a Whirlpool, two door, freezer on top, I had
>> the most fleeting thought through my head that the bottom of the freezer
>> section door was lower that on the dying one. FLEETING thought I paid
>> no attention to. When I got the sucker home and started transferring
>> contents from one to 'tother, I had a hard time getting everything into
>> the fridge. W T F ??? Total cf was the same. . . . The new model,
>> while having the same total cf had more freezer space and less chiller
>> space that its predecessor. In the years between the old and the new,
>> the amount of freezer space in supermarkets increased DRAMATICALLY ‹
>> people had a lot more stuff in their freezers besides vegetables and ice
>> cream.
>>
>> I bitched about that unit for three years. My friend The Late Widow
>> Geraldine had bought a bottom-freezer unit and I loved it. I wanted it.
>> I got one. Gave the old one (all of 3 miserable years old) to a church
>> organization.
>>
>> My freezer compartment is a pullout drawer with a sliding basket in part
>> of it. It is VERY easy to access. I do not have an icemaker; I make
>> ice cubes.
>>
>> NO WAY would I go back to a top freezer unit and am reminded of it every
>> time I reach for something in the vegetable drawers, the lowest part of
>> that fridge storage ‹ at low hip height. Accessing ANYthing in the
>> freezer is very easy because I can pull the drawer way out, and it's a
>> bend-at-the-waist to get at anything. If that were the chiller space in
>> a conventional arrangement, I'd be on my knees trying to find something
>> at the back of a shelf, it would be that low. I shudder at the very
>> idea. Getting down isn't the problem; getting up is. :-/
>>
>> I'll never go back to a freezer-fridge combo with the freezer unit on
>> top, and I've never been impressed by the side-by-side freezer/fridge
>> configuration.
>
>I generally prefer a side-by-side configuration if it's the only cold
>storage around. With the side-by-side, you can organize both the
>refrigerator and freezer sides in a top-down, most frequently used setup
>so everything you use frequently is at no-bend height. I also like and
>frequently use the in-door ice and water dispenser.
>
>The bottom drawer freezer models are decent enough, though they
>typically result in more stacking of items and more time spent shuffling
>through those stacks looking for what you want. I also prefer the single
>door models over the double door models as it seems that the double door
>models just make the door storage less useable and the half door you
>open is rarely the one you need to reach what you wanted on the regular
>shelves so you have to open the other as well.
>
>The mini pass-through doors that are available on some refrigerators are
>of limited value and probably not worth bothering with.
>
>If you have auxiliary cold storage in the garage or similar your
>organization can be different and thus the needs for the kitchen cold
>storage may vary.
>
>In all cases, the horrid top freezer models that require bending over
>nearly every time you access the refrigerator should be banned as
>ergonomic disasters.

In my kitchen I have a 22 cf GE Profile top freezer. In my basement
I have a 17 cf no frills whirlpool top freezer. I don't find myself
reaching into the bottom veggie bins all that often, often just once a
day to grab a few deer carrots. I prefer having the two units rather
than one huge fridge... I don't like having all my eggs in one basket
so to speak... in case one goes on the fritz I still have the other...
plus the two smaller units consume less energy that those monster 40
cf units.... for a few months during cold weather I even unplug the
basement fridge. Oh, and the fridge in the basement is up on cement
blocks just in case of a flooded basement (has happened once), so no
bending to access the veggie bins. I much rather have the two
smaller units than one huge unit. My mother who was barely 5' loved
her bottom freezer, the rest of us were 6', we hated it. Bottom
veggie bins are no problem at all, if I'm going to build a salad or a
soup where I'll be needing everything I simply pull out the entire
bins and put them on the counter. I find it much easier to find stuff
in my top freezer than to be dumpster diving a bottom freezer... I'm
into my freezer far more than I'm into the veggie bins. I absolutely
detest side by sides, they are much too narrow... I'd not use one were
it free.

"Goomba" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]..
> Damaeus wrote:
>
>> First, how old are you? My friend's parents (aged 77 and 79) have one of
>> those fridges with the freezer on the bottom, and to me, it's painful to
>> see either one of them have to get down on their hands and knees just to
>> get a glass of ice.
>
> huh? I don't have to do anything more strenuous than bend at the waist to
> get to my ice. The ice maker is at the top of the bottom freezer space.
> And it is still higher up than a fruit/veggie bin at the bottom of a
> top-freezer unit.

Might not be a consideration for everyone, Goomba. I broke my back nearly
two years ago. Crushed one vertebra so I'm officially .5 inches shorter.
Locations may be a big consideration, and I had never thought of that
before.

Steve

"Terry Pulliam Burd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]..
> On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:59:35 -0600, "gloria.p" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>> Damaeus <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> First, how old are you? My friend's parents (aged 77 and 79) have one
>>>> of
>>>> those fridges with the freezer on the bottom, and to me, it's painful
>>>> to
>>>> see either one of them have to get down on their hands and knees just
>>>> to
>>>> get a glass of ice.
>>>> Damaeus
>>>
>>> ???? I'm having a hard time picturing this. My ice cubes (bottom
>>> freezer) are at knee level and I barely have to bend at the waist to get
>>> to them.
>>>
>>
>>
>>I agree with Ms. Jammin'
>>
>>I am quite short and the slide-out drawer containing the icemaker
>>bin in the lower freezer is just about knee level. No kneeling
>>required.
>>
> And I agree with you both. My bottom freezer ice bin is knee high,
> too, and I'm 5'8". The only reason I'd have to get down on my hands
> and knees to get the ice is if I'd been putting that ice in way too
> many scotch and waters...
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

Try a single malt. ;-)

In news:rec.food.cooking, Melba's Jammin' <[email protected]>
posted on Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:28:40 -0500 the following:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> Damaeus <[email protected]> wrote:
> > First, how old are you? My friend's parents (aged 77 and 79) have one of
> > those fridges with the freezer on the bottom, and to me, it's painful to
> > see either one of them have to get down on their hands and knees just to
> > get a glass of ice.
> > Damaeus
>
> ???? I'm having a hard time picturing this. My ice cubes (bottom
> freezer) are at knee level and I barely have to bend at the waist to get
> to them.

Just make sure nobody's around sweeping the floor when you're getting ice
out of the freezer. It's bound to collect more dust being that low.

Damaeus
--
"Marihuana influences Negroes to look at white people in the eye, step on
white men's shadows and look at a white woman twice."
-William Randolph Hearst

On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:59:35 -0600, "gloria.p" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> Damaeus <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> First, how old are you? My friend's parents (aged 77 and 79) have one of
>>> those fridges with the freezer on the bottom, and to me, it's painful to
>>> see either one of them have to get down on their hands and knees just to
>>> get a glass of ice.
>>> Damaeus
>>
>> ???? I'm having a hard time picturing this. My ice cubes (bottom
>> freezer) are at knee level and I barely have to bend at the waist to get
>> to them.
>>
>
>
>I agree with Ms. Jammin'
>
>I am quite short and the slide-out drawer containing the icemaker
>bin in the lower freezer is just about knee level. No kneeling
>required.

That's only because of your short stature and only for the items at
the very top of the bottom freezer... but you still need to stoop for
retrieving items from the bottom of the freezer, and need to
constantly remove and replace items, or as most do let the items at
the bottom become forgotten. I lived with a bottom freezer for years,
they are an awful storage design, like storing all your food in a
dumpster... they quickly become as slovenly as a kid's toy chest.
There is good reason why less than 5% opt for bottom freezers and why
most manufacturers no longer offer bottom freezers... and most
appliance stores don't even keep any in stock, they need to be special
ordered.

brooklyn1 wrote:

> That's only because of your short stature and only for the items at
> the very top of the bottom freezer... but you still need to stoop for
> retrieving items from the bottom of the freezer, and need to
> constantly remove and replace items, or as most do let the items at
> the bottom become forgotten. I lived with a bottom freezer for years,
> they are an awful storage design, like storing all your food in a
> dumpster... they quickly become as slovenly as a kid's toy chest.
> There is good reason why less than 5% opt for bottom freezers and why
> most manufacturers no longer offer bottom freezers... and most
> appliance stores don't even keep any in stock, they need to be special
> ordered.

Sheldon, I'm tall. I have yet to have any problem finding something in
my bottom freezer.

All the shelves pulled out. All the little jars are my spices, which I
keep in the top two shelves
http://i43.tinypic.com/2hq42na.jpg

The middle compartment, still above knee level-
http://i43.tinypic.com/dyu0i1.jpg

The very bottom compartment- easily viewed items for selection and only
requires a mild bend at the waist to grab.
http://i42.tinypic.com/fucs4h.jpg

In article <[email protected]>,
brooklyn1 <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:59:35 -0600, "gloria.p" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> >> In article <[email protected]>,
> >> Damaeus <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> First, how old are you? My friend's parents (aged 77 and 79) have one of
> >>> those fridges with the freezer on the bottom, and to me, it's painful to
> >>> see either one of them have to get down on their hands and knees just to
> >>> get a glass of ice.
> >>> Damaeus
> >>
> >> ???? I'm having a hard time picturing this. My ice cubes (bottom
> >> freezer) are at knee level and I barely have to bend at the waist to get
> >> to them.
> >>
> >
> >
> >I agree with Ms. Jammin'
> >
> >I am quite short and the slide-out drawer containing the icemaker
> >bin in the lower freezer is just about knee level. No kneeling
> >required.
>
> That's only because of your short stature and only for the items at
> the very top of the bottom freezer... but you still need to stoop for
> retrieving items from the bottom of the freezer, and need to
> constantly remove and replace items, or as most do let the items at
> the bottom become forgotten. I lived with a bottom freezer for years,
> they are an awful storage design, like storing all your food in a
> dumpster... they quickly become as slovenly as a kid's toy chest.
> There is good reason why less than 5% opt for bottom freezers and why
> most manufacturers no longer offer bottom freezers... and most
> appliance stores don't even keep any in stock, they need to be special
> ordered.

Fail! Sheldon, you are so full of crap on this!! LOL!! How brown
are your eyes? <g> I just got off the phone with a sales guy for the
biggest appliance store (specialists, not a big box store) in the area
(7 stores in MN) and he said that bottom freezers are the fastest
growing segment of refrigeration, that all the big mfgrs make them
(Whirlpool has 7 brands they make), that Subzero, Viking, Bosch, and
Miele offer them, and Frigidaire is about to come out with them, late to
the party. He's got more bottom freezer units on his show floor than
top freezers. And he said WAY more than 5% of their fridge sales are
bottom freezer models. You goof!

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In article <[email protected]>,
Damaeus <[email protected]> wrote:

> In news:rec.food.cooking, Melba's Jammin' <[email protected]>
> posted on Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:28:40 -0500 the following:
>
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > Damaeus <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > First, how old are you? My friend's parents (aged 77 and 79) have one of
> > > those fridges with the freezer on the bottom, and to me, it's painful to
> > > see either one of them have to get down on their hands and knees just to
> > > get a glass of ice.
> > > Damaeus
> >
> > ???? I'm having a hard time picturing this. My ice cubes (bottom
> > freezer) are at knee level and I barely have to bend at the waist to get
> > to them.
>
> Just make sure nobody's around sweeping the floor when you're getting ice
> out of the freezer. It's bound to collect more dust being that low.
>
> Damaeus

No problem with that. I do the sweeping and not when I'm getting ice
from the freezer. "-0) I can do more than one thing at a time, but not
those two things. :-)

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Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
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Updated 4-11-2010