Thread: Re: I am not from India; just trying to cook high protein non-eatdishes (hence Indian but not as much spice) with the least amount of oil

On Nov 2, 6:38 pm, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
> "amandaF" <amanda...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:[email protected]...
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> > On Nov 2, 3:27 pm, amandaF <amanda...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I know that this a cooking group where people cook and eat with
>
> > this is a cooking group
>
> > I meant to say "without"
>
> So by non-eat dishes, what do you mean?
>
> Paul

Non-meat dishes...

"amandaF" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Nov 2, 6:38 pm, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
>> "amandaF" <amanda...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> > On Nov 2, 3:27 pm, amandaF <amanda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> I know that this a cooking group where people cook and eat with
>>
>> > this is a cooking group
>>
>> > I meant to say "without"
>>
>> So by non-eat dishes, what do you mean?
>>
>> Paul
>
> Non-meat dishes...

Ah, ok, well that changes everything.

India is rich in vegetarian end vegan cuisine. You will never go hungry
with their cuisine no matter what foods you prefer. I make a couple of
dishes often. I love palak paneer which is spinach and cheese. My favorite
dish. If you do a Google search you will find a wealth of online videos
showing you how to make it. And you can make your own paneer cheese very
easily. It's rather fun, too. Then we have sag aloo which is spinach and
potatoes and is a huge hit with any foodie. Now if you don't want to cook
something from scratch you can always get the jarred tadkas and make lovely
curries by simply cooking up some fresh veggies and tossing it with the
tadka. Serve over basmati rice for a quick and easy meal. I find the
Patak's brand to be very good and not hard to find in most any large market.

If you wanted one search item for Google, try Madhur Jaffrey. She is a
famous Indian chef and her recipes are all over the Internet and in
cookbooks.

Get your spices online. Be sure to keep plenty of garam masala on hand.
It's a staple ingredient.

When it comes to vegetarian, Indian cuisine probably beats them all.

Paul

"Paul M. Cook" <[email protected]> wrote in news:gelu24$opd$1
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>> Non-meat dishes...
>
> Ah, ok, well that changes everything.
>

All my dishes are made of China or ceramics. Wouldn't meat dishes kinda
smell after say a week? Some folk use silver others plastic or wood
dishes...paper plates are kinda handy at times...can't really grasp the
concept of meat dishes though.

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The beet goes on -Alan

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> "telephone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>No it's not. It's a group for people who can't get beyond 'Betty
>>Crocker' style cookery. Good cooks not welcome here. And that's your
>>loss.
>
> This, plus your shoemaker references make me think that you are quite
> elderly and/or haven't kept up with the times. Betty Crocker cookbooks are
> rather old-fashioned and have recipes that are more time-consuming than
> what people want today. They were en vogue from the 1920's to perhaps the
> 1970's - every housewife had that ubiquitous red-and-white checkered
> cookbook on the shelf.

Betty Crocker cook books are not red and white checkered.

Ms P

In article <[email protected]>,
"Ms P" <[email protected]> wrote:

> > This, plus your shoemaker references make me think that you are quite
> > elderly and/or haven't kept up with the times. Betty Crocker cookbooks are
> > rather old-fashioned and have recipes that are more time-consuming than
> > what people want today. They were en vogue from the 1920's to perhaps the
> > 1970's - every housewife had that ubiquitous red-and-white checkered
> > cookbook on the shelf.
>
> Betty Crocker cook books are not red and white checkered.
>
> Ms P

Really old ones are. I should know. I have my moms.
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

Omelet wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Ms P" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> This, plus your shoemaker references make me think that you are
>>> quite elderly and/or haven't kept up with the times. Betty Crocker
>>> cookbooks are rather old-fashioned and have recipes that are more
>>> time-consuming than what people want today. They were en vogue from
>>> the 1920's to perhaps the 1970's - every housewife had that
>>> ubiquitous red-and-white checkered cookbook on the shelf.
>>
>> Betty Crocker cook books are not red and white checkered.
>>
>> Ms P
>
> Really old ones are. I should know. I have my moms.

Naw, the old ones (from the 1950's) are plain red, not checkered.

Jill

On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 11:59:48 -0600, Omelet <[email protected]>
wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> "Ms P" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > This, plus your shoemaker references make me think that you are quite
>> > elderly and/or haven't kept up with the times. Betty Crocker cookbooks are
>> > rather old-fashioned and have recipes that are more time-consuming than
>> > what people want today. They were en vogue from the 1920's to perhaps the
>> > 1970's - every housewife had that ubiquitous red-and-white checkered
>> > cookbook on the shelf.
>>
>> Betty Crocker cook books are not red and white checkered.
>>
>> Ms P
>
>Really old ones are. I should know. I have my moms.

The first one was 1950, red with white swirls on it. I have a copy of
every version and none of them have a checked cover. Better Home and
Gardens has a red & white check on the cover.

Here is the link to a page from the 1986 book with pictures of all of
the Betty Crocker cookbooks from 1950 to 1978.

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1582is6&s=4

I can take a picture of the 1951 and 1968 Better Homes and Garden
Cookbooks if you like.

If you have a copy from that period with a different cover, I would
like to see a picture.

"Paul M. Cook" wrote

> India is rich in vegetarian end vegan cuisine. You will never go hungry
> with their cuisine no matter what foods you prefer. I make a couple of
> dishes often.

I've been meaning to investigate that cuisine for years. In Darwin (OZ)
there was a little shop up the road from the fishing supply lure store, that
had wonderful Indian foods. I've eaten at other places with Indian foods
but not that good.

> I love palak paneer which is spinach and cheese. My favorite dish. If
> you do a Google search you will find a wealth of online videos showing you
> how to make it.

I've seen that. Doesnt look hard to do.

> potatoes and is a huge hit with any foodie. Now if you don't want to cook
> something from scratch you can always get the jarred tadkas and make
> lovely curries by simply cooking up some fresh veggies and tossing it with
> the tadka. Serve over basmati rice for a quick and easy meal. I find the
> Patak's brand to be very good and not hard to find in most any large
> market.

I like seeing a brand name recommended. Helps with filtering so many other
things out.

> Get your spices online. Be sure to keep plenty of garam masala on hand.
> It's a staple ingredient.

I have lots of it. Quite useful in many things not even thought of as
'indian'.

"telephone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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On 2 Nov, 18:29, amandaF <amanda...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 2, 3:27 pm, amandaF <amanda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I know that this a cooking group where people cook and eat with
>
> this is a cooking group
>

No it's not. It's a group for people who can't get beyond 'Betty
Crocker' style cookery. Good cooks not welcome here. And that's your
loss.



How would you know? You certainly don't qualify on either count.

Dimitri

In article <[email protected]>,
"jmcquown" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > "Ms P" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>> This, plus your shoemaker references make me think that you are
> >>> quite elderly and/or haven't kept up with the times. Betty Crocker
> >>> cookbooks are rather old-fashioned and have recipes that are more
> >>> time-consuming than what people want today. They were en vogue from
> >>> the 1920's to perhaps the 1970's - every housewife had that
> >>> ubiquitous red-and-white checkered cookbook on the shelf.
> >>
> >> Betty Crocker cook books are not red and white checkered.
> >>
> >> Ms P
> >
> > Really old ones are. I should know. I have my moms.
>
> Naw, the old ones (from the 1950's) are plain red, not checkered.
>
> Jill

Mine must be older than that tho'. It's currently a bit buried at the
moment or I'd take a pic.


It's checkered.

I have stuff from 4 dead people now to sort thru when I can get sis' off
her ass to help me. She needs to decide what she wants. I'm at the
point in my life where I don't care anymore. I just want to get rid of
STUFF.
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

In article <[email protected]>,
The Cook <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 11:59:48 -0600, Omelet <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> > "Ms P" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> > This, plus your shoemaker references make me think that you are quite
> >> > elderly and/or haven't kept up with the times. Betty Crocker cookbooks
> >> > are
> >> > rather old-fashioned and have recipes that are more time-consuming than
> >> > what people want today. They were en vogue from the 1920's to perhaps
> >> > the
> >> > 1970's - every housewife had that ubiquitous red-and-white checkered
> >> > cookbook on the shelf.
> >>
> >> Betty Crocker cook books are not red and white checkered.
> >>
> >> Ms P
> >
> >Really old ones are. I should know. I have my moms.
>
> The first one was 1950, red with white swirls on it. I have a copy of
> every version and none of them have a checked cover. Better Home and
> Gardens has a red & white check on the cover.
>
> Here is the link to a page from the 1986 book with pictures of all of
> the Betty Crocker cookbooks from 1950 to 1978.
>
> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1582is6&s=4
>
> I can take a picture of the 1951 and 1968 Better Homes and Garden
> Cookbooks if you like.
>
> If you have a copy from that period with a different cover, I would
> like to see a picture.

Ok, I was wrong. I just dug it out of the pile of "stuff" I have on the
dresser. I mis-remembered. This one is covered with pictures of food.

My bad.

Apologies.
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

"Dimitri" schrieb :
>
> "telephone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 2 Nov, 18:29, amandaF <amanda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 2, 3:27 pm, amandaF <amanda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I know that this a cooking group where people cook and eat with
>>
>> this is a cooking group
>>
>
> No it's not. It's a group for people who can't get beyond 'Betty
> Crocker' style cookery. Good cooks not welcome here. And that's your
> loss.
>
>
>
You didn't write that, did you ?
If your Usenet-Chatroom program ****s up the attributions,
use something like
"-----------------------------------------------------------------------"
before you answer.
It makes it easier for the rest of us.

> How would you know? You certainly don't qualify on either count.
>
And he isn't a count, either ;-) Despite his <ahem> Stroganoff.

Cheers,

Michael Kuettner

Omelet replied to Ms P:


>> Betty Crocker cook books are not red and white checkered.
>>
>> Ms P
>
> Really old ones are. I should know. I have my moms.

She may have you on this one, Om. The red and white checkered were the
"Better Homes and Gardens" books. While vintage Better Crocker's used a
lot of red on their dust jackets and covers, I couldn't find any that
were checkered. (Not saying that one doesn't exist, just saying I
haven't seen one).

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trk...All-Categories

I also did a quick "fly by" of the books after 1960. No red & white
checkerboards.

BTW: The "checkered" pattern of the BH&G looks like the old red and
white tablecloths that one would use for picnicking.

That pattern is still their branding.

--Lin

On Nov 2, 8:18 pm, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
> "amandaF" <amanda...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> > On Nov 2, 6:38 pm, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
> >> "amandaF" <amanda...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> >>news:[email protected]...
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> >> > On Nov 2, 3:27 pm, amandaF <amanda...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> I know that this a cooking group where people cook and eat with
>
> >> > this is a cooking group
>
> >> > I meant to say "without"
>
> >> So by non-eat dishes, what do you mean?
>
> >> Paul
>
> > Non-meat dishes...
>
> Ah, ok, well that changes everything.
>
> India is rich in vegetarian end vegan cuisine. You will never go hungry
> with their cuisine no matter what foods you prefer. I make a couple of
> dishes often. I love palak paneer which is spinach and cheese. My favorite
> dish. If you do a Google search you will find a wealth of online videos
> showing you how to make it. And you can make your own paneer cheese very
> easily. It's rather fun, too. Then we have sag aloo which is spinach and
> potatoes and is a huge hit with any foodie. Now if you don't want to cook
> something from scratch you can always get the jarred tadkas and make lovely
> curries by simply cooking up some fresh veggies and tossing it with the
> tadka. Serve over basmati rice for a quick and easy meal. I find the
> Patak's brand to be very good and not hard to find in most any large market.
>
> If you wanted one search item for Google, try Madhur Jaffrey. She is a
> famous Indian chef and her recipes are all over the Internet and in
> cookbooks.
>
> Get your spices online. Be sure to keep plenty of garam masala on hand.
> It's a staple ingredient.
>
> When it comes to vegetarian, Indian cuisine probably beats them all.
>
> Paul



The first time I tried palak paneer, I loved it. Later, at the
restaurant, I never find it as good as the one I had which was out of
the can which I tried vaguely remembering seeing it at the restaurant
menu. I felt like the one in the restaurant needed more cheese or
something. May be the restaurant I tried made it too healthy. I am
mostly interested in Indian dishes that are high protein complete
protein) and hence Daal..

In article <[email protected]> ,
Lin <[email protected]> wrote:

> Omelet replied to Ms P:
>
>
> >> Betty Crocker cook books are not red and white checkered.
> >>
> >> Ms P
> >
> > Really old ones are. I should know. I have my moms.
>
> She may have you on this one, Om. The red and white checkered were the
> "Better Homes and Gardens" books. While vintage Better Crocker's used a
> lot of red on their dust jackets and covers, I couldn't find any that
> were checkered. (Not saying that one doesn't exist, just saying I
> haven't seen one).
>
> http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trk...etty+crocker+c
> ookbook&_sacat=See-All-Categories
>
> I also did a quick "fly by" of the books after 1960. No red & white
> checkerboards.
>
> BTW: The "checkered" pattern of the BH&G looks like the old red and
> white tablecloths that one would use for picnicking.
>
> That pattern is still their branding.
>
> --Lin

I already admitted in another post that I was wrong. I dug the book out
of the pile of "stuff" on my dresser and looked at it. It's covered with
pictures of food.

I wonder which of my cookbooks I recall being checkered? I'll have to
"check" it out. <g>
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

"The Cook" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> The first one was 1950, red with white swirls on it. I have a copy of
> every version and none of them have a checked cover. Better Home and
> Gardens has a red & white check on the cover.
>
> Here is the link to a page from the 1986 book with pictures of all of
> the Betty Crocker cookbooks from 1950 to 1978.
>
> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1582is6&s=4
>
> I can take a picture of the 1951 and 1968 Better Homes and Garden
> Cookbooks if you like.
>
> If you have a copy from that period with a different cover, I would
> like to see a picture.

The center one is supposed to be 1950. It is a ring binder, not a bound
book. That does not seem right. Pattern is correct for the time though.
Our 1950 is a hard bound book. My wife still uses it for some recipes,
especially the muffins.

On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 22:30:57 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"The Cook" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> The first one was 1950, red with white swirls on it. I have a copy of
>> every version and none of them have a checked cover. Better Home and
>> Gardens has a red & white check on the cover.
>>
>> Here is the link to a page from the 1986 book with pictures of all of
>> the Betty Crocker cookbooks from 1950 to 1978.
>>
>> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1582is6&s=4
>>
>> I can take a picture of the 1951 and 1968 Better Homes and Garden
>> Cookbooks if you like.
>>
>> If you have a copy from that period with a different cover, I would
>> like to see a picture.
>
>The center one is supposed to be 1950. It is a ring binder, not a bound
>book. That does not seem right. Pattern is correct for the time though.
>Our 1950 is a hard bound book. My wife still uses it for some recipes,
>especially the muffins.
>

It came both ways as did almost all of the earlier versions. I have a
first edition bound copy with a dust jacket .

On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 15:34:57 -0800 (PST), telephone <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 2 Nov, 18:29, amandaF <amanda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 2, 3:27 pm, amandaF <amanda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I know that this *a cooking group where people cook and eat with
>>
>> this is *a cooking group
>>
>
>No it's not. It's a group for people who can't get beyond 'Betty
>Crocker' style cookery. Good cooks not welcome here. And that's your
>loss.

Speaking of Betty Crocker, Raghavan Iyer's "Betty Crocker's Indian Home
Cooking" is a very good Indian cookbook.

>
>> I meant to say "without"