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  1. #1
    amandaF Guest

    Default Re: I am not from India; just trying to cook high protein non-eatdishes (hence Indian but not as much spice) with the least amount of oil

    On Nov 2, 3:27 pm, amandaF <amanda...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > I know that this a cooking group where people cook and eat with



    this is a cooking group

    I meant to say "without"

  2. #2
    amandaF Guest

    Default Re: I am not from India; just trying to cook high protein non-eatdishes (hence Indian but not as much spice) with the least amount of oil

    On Nov 2, 6:38 pm, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
    > "amandaF" <amanda...@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    > > On Nov 2, 3:27 pm, amandaF <amanda...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > >> I know that this a cooking group where people cook and eat with

    >
    > > this is a cooking group

    >
    > > I meant to say "without"

    >
    > So by non-eat dishes, what do you mean?
    >
    > Paul


    Non-meat dishes...

  3. #3
    Paul M. Cook Guest

    Default Re: I am not from India; just trying to cook high protein non-eat dishes (hence Indian but not as much spice) with the least amount of oil


    "amandaF" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On Nov 2, 6:38 pm, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
    >> "amandaF" <amanda...@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>
    >> news:[email protected]...
    >>
    >> > On Nov 2, 3:27 pm, amandaF <amanda...@gmail.com> wrote:
    >> >> I know that this a cooking group where people cook and eat with

    >>
    >> > this is a cooking group

    >>
    >> > I meant to say "without"

    >>
    >> So by non-eat dishes, what do you mean?
    >>
    >> Paul

    >
    > Non-meat dishes...


    Ah, ok, well that changes everything.

    India is rich in vegetarian end vegan cuisine. You will never go hungry
    with their cuisine no matter what foods you prefer. I make a couple of
    dishes often. I love palak paneer which is spinach and cheese. My favorite
    dish. If you do a Google search you will find a wealth of online videos
    showing you how to make it. And you can make your own paneer cheese very
    easily. It's rather fun, too. Then we have sag aloo which is spinach and
    potatoes and is a huge hit with any foodie. Now if you don't want to cook
    something from scratch you can always get the jarred tadkas and make lovely
    curries by simply cooking up some fresh veggies and tossing it with the
    tadka. Serve over basmati rice for a quick and easy meal. I find the
    Patak's brand to be very good and not hard to find in most any large market.

    If you wanted one search item for Google, try Madhur Jaffrey. She is a
    famous Indian chef and her recipes are all over the Internet and in
    cookbooks.

    Get your spices online. Be sure to keep plenty of garam masala on hand.
    It's a staple ingredient.

    When it comes to vegetarian, Indian cuisine probably beats them all.

    Paul



  4. #4
    hahabogus Guest

    Default Re: I am not from India; just trying to cook high protein non-eat dishes (hence Indian but not as much spice) with the least amount of oil

    "Paul M. Cook" <[email protected]> wrote in news:gelu24$opd$1
    @registered.motzarella.org:

    >> Non-meat dishes...

    >
    > Ah, ok, well that changes everything.
    >


    All my dishes are made of China or ceramics. Wouldn't meat dishes kinda
    smell after say a week? Some folk use silver others plastic or wood
    dishes...paper plates are kinda handy at times...can't really grasp the
    concept of meat dishes though.

    --

    The beet goes on -Alan




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    Ms P Guest

    Default Re: I am not from India; just trying to cook high protein non-eat (??) dishes


    "dejablues" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:gelkru$hqr$[email protected]..
    >
    > "telephone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    >
    >>No it's not. It's a group for people who can't get beyond 'Betty
    >>Crocker' style cookery. Good cooks not welcome here. And that's your
    >>loss.

    >
    > This, plus your shoemaker references make me think that you are quite
    > elderly and/or haven't kept up with the times. Betty Crocker cookbooks are
    > rather old-fashioned and have recipes that are more time-consuming than
    > what people want today. They were en vogue from the 1920's to perhaps the
    > 1970's - every housewife had that ubiquitous red-and-white checkered
    > cookbook on the shelf.


    Betty Crocker cook books are not red and white checkered.

    Ms P


  6. #6
    Omelet Guest

    Default Re: I am not from India; just trying to cook high protein non-eat (??) dishes

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Ms P" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > > This, plus your shoemaker references make me think that you are quite
    > > elderly and/or haven't kept up with the times. Betty Crocker cookbooks are
    > > rather old-fashioned and have recipes that are more time-consuming than
    > > what people want today. They were en vogue from the 1920's to perhaps the
    > > 1970's - every housewife had that ubiquitous red-and-white checkered
    > > cookbook on the shelf.

    >
    > Betty Crocker cook books are not red and white checkered.
    >
    > Ms P


    Really old ones are. I should know. I have my moms.
    --
    Peace! Om

    "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

  7. #7
    jmcquown Guest

    Default Re: I am not from India; just trying to cook high protein non-eat (??) dishes

    Omelet wrote:
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > "Ms P" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>> This, plus your shoemaker references make me think that you are
    >>> quite elderly and/or haven't kept up with the times. Betty Crocker
    >>> cookbooks are rather old-fashioned and have recipes that are more
    >>> time-consuming than what people want today. They were en vogue from
    >>> the 1920's to perhaps the 1970's - every housewife had that
    >>> ubiquitous red-and-white checkered cookbook on the shelf.

    >>
    >> Betty Crocker cook books are not red and white checkered.
    >>
    >> Ms P

    >
    > Really old ones are. I should know. I have my moms.


    Naw, the old ones (from the 1950's) are plain red, not checkered.

    Jill

  8. #8
    The Cook Guest

    Default Re: I am not from India; just trying to cook high protein non-eat (??) dishes

    On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 11:59:48 -0600, Omelet <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >In article <[email protected]>,
    > "Ms P" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> > This, plus your shoemaker references make me think that you are quite
    >> > elderly and/or haven't kept up with the times. Betty Crocker cookbooks are
    >> > rather old-fashioned and have recipes that are more time-consuming than
    >> > what people want today. They were en vogue from the 1920's to perhaps the
    >> > 1970's - every housewife had that ubiquitous red-and-white checkered
    >> > cookbook on the shelf.

    >>
    >> Betty Crocker cook books are not red and white checkered.
    >>
    >> Ms P

    >
    >Really old ones are. I should know. I have my moms.


    The first one was 1950, red with white swirls on it. I have a copy of
    every version and none of them have a checked cover. Better Home and
    Gardens has a red & white check on the cover.

    Here is the link to a page from the 1986 book with pictures of all of
    the Betty Crocker cookbooks from 1950 to 1978.

    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1582is6&s=4

    I can take a picture of the 1951 and 1968 Better Homes and Garden
    Cookbooks if you like.

    If you have a copy from that period with a different cover, I would
    like to see a picture.

  9. #9
    cshenk Guest

    Default Re: I am not from India; just trying to cook high protein non-eat dishes (hence Indian but not as much spice) with the least amount of oil

    "Paul M. Cook" wrote

    > India is rich in vegetarian end vegan cuisine. You will never go hungry
    > with their cuisine no matter what foods you prefer. I make a couple of
    > dishes often.


    I've been meaning to investigate that cuisine for years. In Darwin (OZ)
    there was a little shop up the road from the fishing supply lure store, that
    had wonderful Indian foods. I've eaten at other places with Indian foods
    but not that good.

    > I love palak paneer which is spinach and cheese. My favorite dish. If
    > you do a Google search you will find a wealth of online videos showing you
    > how to make it.


    I've seen that. Doesnt look hard to do.

    > potatoes and is a huge hit with any foodie. Now if you don't want to cook
    > something from scratch you can always get the jarred tadkas and make
    > lovely curries by simply cooking up some fresh veggies and tossing it with
    > the tadka. Serve over basmati rice for a quick and easy meal. I find the
    > Patak's brand to be very good and not hard to find in most any large
    > market.


    I like seeing a brand name recommended. Helps with filtering so many other
    things out.

    > Get your spices online. Be sure to keep plenty of garam masala on hand.
    > It's a staple ingredient.


    I have lots of it. Quite useful in many things not even thought of as
    'indian'.




  10. #10
    Dimitri Guest

    Default Re: I am not from India; just trying to cook high protein non-eat dishes (hence Indian but not as much spice) with the least amount of oil


    "telephone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    On 2 Nov, 18:29, amandaF <amanda...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > On Nov 2, 3:27 pm, amandaF <amanda...@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > > I know that this a cooking group where people cook and eat with

    >
    > this is a cooking group
    >


    No it's not. It's a group for people who can't get beyond 'Betty
    Crocker' style cookery. Good cooks not welcome here. And that's your
    loss.



    How would you know? You certainly don't qualify on either count.

    Dimitri


  11. #11
    Omelet Guest

    Default Re: I am not from India; just trying to cook high protein non-eat (??) dishes

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "jmcquown" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Omelet wrote:
    > > In article <[email protected]>,
    > > "Ms P" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >>> This, plus your shoemaker references make me think that you are
    > >>> quite elderly and/or haven't kept up with the times. Betty Crocker
    > >>> cookbooks are rather old-fashioned and have recipes that are more
    > >>> time-consuming than what people want today. They were en vogue from
    > >>> the 1920's to perhaps the 1970's - every housewife had that
    > >>> ubiquitous red-and-white checkered cookbook on the shelf.
    > >>
    > >> Betty Crocker cook books are not red and white checkered.
    > >>
    > >> Ms P

    > >
    > > Really old ones are. I should know. I have my moms.

    >
    > Naw, the old ones (from the 1950's) are plain red, not checkered.
    >
    > Jill


    Mine must be older than that tho'. It's currently a bit buried at the
    moment or I'd take a pic.


    It's checkered.

    I have stuff from 4 dead people now to sort thru when I can get sis' off
    her ass to help me. She needs to decide what she wants. I'm at the
    point in my life where I don't care anymore. I just want to get rid of
    STUFF.
    --
    Peace! Om

    "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

  12. #12
    Omelet Guest

    Default Re: I am not from India; just trying to cook high protein non-eat (??) dishes

    In article <[email protected]>,
    The Cook <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 11:59:48 -0600, Omelet <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >In article <[email protected]>,
    > > "Ms P" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >> > This, plus your shoemaker references make me think that you are quite
    > >> > elderly and/or haven't kept up with the times. Betty Crocker cookbooks
    > >> > are
    > >> > rather old-fashioned and have recipes that are more time-consuming than
    > >> > what people want today. They were en vogue from the 1920's to perhaps
    > >> > the
    > >> > 1970's - every housewife had that ubiquitous red-and-white checkered
    > >> > cookbook on the shelf.
    > >>
    > >> Betty Crocker cook books are not red and white checkered.
    > >>
    > >> Ms P

    > >
    > >Really old ones are. I should know. I have my moms.

    >
    > The first one was 1950, red with white swirls on it. I have a copy of
    > every version and none of them have a checked cover. Better Home and
    > Gardens has a red & white check on the cover.
    >
    > Here is the link to a page from the 1986 book with pictures of all of
    > the Betty Crocker cookbooks from 1950 to 1978.
    >
    > http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1582is6&s=4
    >
    > I can take a picture of the 1951 and 1968 Better Homes and Garden
    > Cookbooks if you like.
    >
    > If you have a copy from that period with a different cover, I would
    > like to see a picture.


    Ok, I was wrong. I just dug it out of the pile of "stuff" I have on the
    dresser. I mis-remembered. This one is covered with pictures of food.

    My bad.

    Apologies.
    --
    Peace! Om

    "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

  13. #13
    Michael Kuettner Guest

    Default Re: I am not from India; just trying to cook high protein non-eat dishes (hence Indian but not as much spice) with the least amount of oil


    "Dimitri" schrieb :
    >
    > "telephone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > On 2 Nov, 18:29, amandaF <amanda...@gmail.com> wrote:
    >> On Nov 2, 3:27 pm, amandaF <amanda...@gmail.com> wrote:
    >>
    >> > I know that this a cooking group where people cook and eat with

    >>
    >> this is a cooking group
    >>

    >
    > No it's not. It's a group for people who can't get beyond 'Betty
    > Crocker' style cookery. Good cooks not welcome here. And that's your
    > loss.
    >
    >
    >

    You didn't write that, did you ?
    If your Usenet-Chatroom program ****s up the attributions,
    use something like
    "-----------------------------------------------------------------------"
    before you answer.
    It makes it easier for the rest of us.

    > How would you know? You certainly don't qualify on either count.
    >

    And he isn't a count, either ;-) Despite his <ahem> Stroganoff.

    Cheers,

    Michael Kuettner








  14. #14
    Lin Guest

    Default Re: I am not from India; just trying to cook high protein non-eat(??) dishes

    Omelet replied to Ms P:


    >> Betty Crocker cook books are not red and white checkered.
    >>
    >> Ms P

    >
    > Really old ones are. I should know. I have my moms.


    She may have you on this one, Om. The red and white checkered were the
    "Better Homes and Gardens" books. While vintage Better Crocker's used a
    lot of red on their dust jackets and covers, I couldn't find any that
    were checkered. (Not saying that one doesn't exist, just saying I
    haven't seen one).

    http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trk...All-Categories

    I also did a quick "fly by" of the books after 1960. No red & white
    checkerboards.

    BTW: The "checkered" pattern of the BH&G looks like the old red and
    white tablecloths that one would use for picnicking.

    That pattern is still their branding.

    --Lin

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    amandaF Guest

    Default Re: I am not from India; just trying to cook high protein non-eatdishes (hence Indian but not as much spice) with the least amount of oil

    On Nov 2, 8:18 pm, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
    > "amandaF" <amanda...@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Nov 2, 6:38 pm, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
    > >> "amandaF" <amanda...@gmail.com> wrote in message

    >
    > >>news:[email protected]...

    >
    > >> > On Nov 2, 3:27 pm, amandaF <amanda...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > >> >> I know that this a cooking group where people cook and eat with

    >
    > >> > this is a cooking group

    >
    > >> > I meant to say "without"

    >
    > >> So by non-eat dishes, what do you mean?

    >
    > >> Paul

    >
    > > Non-meat dishes...

    >
    > Ah, ok, well that changes everything.
    >
    > India is rich in vegetarian end vegan cuisine. You will never go hungry
    > with their cuisine no matter what foods you prefer. I make a couple of
    > dishes often. I love palak paneer which is spinach and cheese. My favorite
    > dish. If you do a Google search you will find a wealth of online videos
    > showing you how to make it. And you can make your own paneer cheese very
    > easily. It's rather fun, too. Then we have sag aloo which is spinach and
    > potatoes and is a huge hit with any foodie. Now if you don't want to cook
    > something from scratch you can always get the jarred tadkas and make lovely
    > curries by simply cooking up some fresh veggies and tossing it with the
    > tadka. Serve over basmati rice for a quick and easy meal. I find the
    > Patak's brand to be very good and not hard to find in most any large market.
    >
    > If you wanted one search item for Google, try Madhur Jaffrey. She is a
    > famous Indian chef and her recipes are all over the Internet and in
    > cookbooks.
    >
    > Get your spices online. Be sure to keep plenty of garam masala on hand.
    > It's a staple ingredient.
    >
    > When it comes to vegetarian, Indian cuisine probably beats them all.
    >
    > Paul




    The first time I tried palak paneer, I loved it. Later, at the
    restaurant, I never find it as good as the one I had which was out of
    the can which I tried vaguely remembering seeing it at the restaurant
    menu. I felt like the one in the restaurant needed more cheese or
    something. May be the restaurant I tried made it too healthy. I am
    mostly interested in Indian dishes that are high protein complete
    protein) and hence Daal..

  16. #16
    Omelet Guest

    Default Re: I am not from India; just trying to cook high protein non-eat (??) dishes

    In article <[email protected]> ,
    Lin <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Omelet replied to Ms P:
    >
    >
    > >> Betty Crocker cook books are not red and white checkered.
    > >>
    > >> Ms P

    > >
    > > Really old ones are. I should know. I have my moms.

    >
    > She may have you on this one, Om. The red and white checkered were the
    > "Better Homes and Gardens" books. While vintage Better Crocker's used a
    > lot of red on their dust jackets and covers, I couldn't find any that
    > were checkered. (Not saying that one doesn't exist, just saying I
    > haven't seen one).
    >
    > http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trk...etty+crocker+c
    > ookbook&_sacat=See-All-Categories
    >
    > I also did a quick "fly by" of the books after 1960. No red & white
    > checkerboards.
    >
    > BTW: The "checkered" pattern of the BH&G looks like the old red and
    > white tablecloths that one would use for picnicking.
    >
    > That pattern is still their branding.
    >
    > --Lin


    I already admitted in another post that I was wrong. I dug the book out
    of the pile of "stuff" on my dresser and looked at it. It's covered with
    pictures of food.

    I wonder which of my cookbooks I recall being checkered? I'll have to
    "check" it out. <g>
    --
    Peace! Om

    "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

  17. #17
    Ed Pawlowski Guest

    Default Re: I am not from India; just trying to cook high protein non-eat (??) dishes


    "The Cook" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >
    > The first one was 1950, red with white swirls on it. I have a copy of
    > every version and none of them have a checked cover. Better Home and
    > Gardens has a red & white check on the cover.
    >
    > Here is the link to a page from the 1986 book with pictures of all of
    > the Betty Crocker cookbooks from 1950 to 1978.
    >
    > http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1582is6&s=4
    >
    > I can take a picture of the 1951 and 1968 Better Homes and Garden
    > Cookbooks if you like.
    >
    > If you have a copy from that period with a different cover, I would
    > like to see a picture.


    The center one is supposed to be 1950. It is a ring binder, not a bound
    book. That does not seem right. Pattern is correct for the time though.
    Our 1950 is a hard bound book. My wife still uses it for some recipes,
    especially the muffins.



  18. #18
    The Cook Guest

    Default Re: I am not from India; just trying to cook high protein non-eat (??) dishes

    On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 22:30:57 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >
    >"The Cook" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>
    >> The first one was 1950, red with white swirls on it. I have a copy of
    >> every version and none of them have a checked cover. Better Home and
    >> Gardens has a red & white check on the cover.
    >>
    >> Here is the link to a page from the 1986 book with pictures of all of
    >> the Betty Crocker cookbooks from 1950 to 1978.
    >>
    >> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1582is6&s=4
    >>
    >> I can take a picture of the 1951 and 1968 Better Homes and Garden
    >> Cookbooks if you like.
    >>
    >> If you have a copy from that period with a different cover, I would
    >> like to see a picture.

    >
    >The center one is supposed to be 1950. It is a ring binder, not a bound
    >book. That does not seem right. Pattern is correct for the time though.
    >Our 1950 is a hard bound book. My wife still uses it for some recipes,
    >especially the muffins.
    >


    It came both ways as did almost all of the earlier versions. I have a
    first edition bound copy with a dust jacket .

  19. #19
    Robert Klute Guest

    Default Re: I am not from India; just trying to cook high protein non-eat dishes (hence Indian but not as much spice) with the least amount of oil

    On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 15:34:57 -0800 (PST), telephone <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >On 2 Nov, 18:29, amandaF <amanda...@gmail.com> wrote:
    >> On Nov 2, 3:27 pm, amandaF <amanda...@gmail.com> wrote:
    >>
    >> > I know that this *a cooking group where people cook and eat with

    >>
    >> this is *a cooking group
    >>

    >
    >No it's not. It's a group for people who can't get beyond 'Betty
    >Crocker' style cookery. Good cooks not welcome here. And that's your
    >loss.


    Speaking of Betty Crocker, Raghavan Iyer's "Betty Crocker's Indian Home
    Cooking" is a very good Indian cookbook.

    >
    >> I meant to say "without"



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