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    Bob Terwilliger Guest

    Default Re: How producing "ethical, zero-harm" plant food for vegans and vegetarians kills more animals than, well, actually killing animals for the purpose of eating them. The real question, though, is how long do we have to make our Subject lines

    Julie wrote:

    >>> Not only did the meter respond wildly when we did these things, but
    >>> after a few days of doing this, the meter reacted just to our words.
    >>> So it was obvious on some level that the plant could tell what was
    >>> going to happen.

    >>
    >> I'll bet it was measuring resistance to electrical current flow, or
    >> maybe even minute electrical charges being produced by the plant. The
    >> latter I've never heard of, but I'm not a plant physiologist either.
    >>
    >> Aha! : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_p...8physiology%29
    >>
    >> But since a plant does not contain nor possess any type of neural
    >> system such as animals (and humans, since we are animals) have, I
    >> think it's a far stretch to claim plants experience any type of pain
    >> or suffering similar to the way animals (and humans) do.
    >>
    >> And I still don't know what your high school biology teacher was
    >> measuring with a meter. And you apparently don't either, just that the
    >> meter was moving.

    >
    > I may have known at the time but I don't remember it now.


    I'm guessing that the meter had nothing to do with the plant, and everything
    to do with some kind of remote control wielded by the teacher.

    Bob



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    Jim Elbrecht Guest

    Default Re: How producing "ethical, zero-harm" plant food for vegans and vegetarians kills more animals than, well, actually killing animals for the purpose of eating them. The real question, though, is how long do we have to make our Subject lines

    "Bob Terwilliger" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote:

    >Julie wrote:
    >
    >>>> Not only did the meter respond wildly when we did these things, but
    >>>> after a few days of doing this, the meter reacted just to our words.
    >>>> So it was obvious on some level that the plant could tell what was
    >>>> going to happen.
    >>>
    >>> I'll bet it was measuring resistance to electrical current flow, or
    >>> maybe even minute electrical charges being produced by the plant. The
    >>> latter I've never heard of, but I'm not a plant physiologist either.
    >>>
    >>> Aha! : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_p...8physiology%29
    >>>
    >>> But since a plant does not contain nor possess any type of neural
    >>> system such as animals (and humans, since we are animals) have, I
    >>> think it's a far stretch to claim plants experience any type of pain
    >>> or suffering similar to the way animals (and humans) do.
    >>>
    >>> And I still don't know what your high school biology teacher was
    >>> measuring with a meter. And you apparently don't either, just that the
    >>> meter was moving.

    >>
    >> I may have known at the time but I don't remember it now.

    >
    >I'm guessing that the meter had nothing to do with the plant, and everything
    >to do with some kind of remote control wielded by the teacher.
    >


    While trying unsuccessfully to find some more details on the work done
    by renowned horticulturist<g> L. Ron Hubbard in the 70's[?] I ran
    across this quote and gave up the search-
    "I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals. I'm a vegetarian because
    I hate plants. " A. Whitney Brown

    Someone who cares more might be able to find a full account of
    Hubbard's 'experiments'.

    Jim

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    Bryan Guest

    Default Re: How producing "ethical, zero-harm" plant food for vegans andvegetarians kills more animals than, well, actually killing animals for thepurpose of eating them.

    On Jan 5, 6:32*am, Jim Elbrecht <elbre...@email.com> wrote:
    > "Bob Terwilliger" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote:
    > >Julie wrote:

    >
    > >>>> Not only did the meter respond wildly when we did these things, but
    > >>>> after a few days of doing this, the meter reacted just to our words.
    > >>>> So it was obvious on some level that the plant could tell what was
    > >>>> going to happen.

    >
    > >>> I'll bet it was measuring resistance to electrical current flow, or
    > >>> maybe even minute electrical charges being produced by the plant. The
    > >>> latter I've never heard of, but I'm not a plant physiologist either.

    >
    > >>> Aha! :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_p...8physiology%29

    >
    > >>> But since a plant does not contain nor possess any type of neural
    > >>> system such as animals (and humans, since we are animals) have, I
    > >>> think it's a far stretch to claim plants experience any type of pain
    > >>> or suffering similar to the way animals (and humans) do.

    >
    > >>> And I still don't know what your high school biology teacher was
    > >>> measuring with a meter. And you apparently don't either, just that the
    > >>> meter was moving.

    >
    > >> I may have known at the time but I don't remember it now.

    >
    > >I'm guessing that the meter had nothing to do with the plant, and everything
    > >to do with some kind of remote control wielded by the teacher.

    >
    > While trying unsuccessfully to find some more details on the work done
    > by renowned horticulturist<g> L. Ron Hubbard in the 70's[?] I ran
    > across this quote and gave up the search-
    > "I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals. I'm a vegetarian because
    > I hate plants. " *A. Whitney Brown
    >
    > Someone who cares more might be able to find a full account of
    > Hubbard's 'experiments'.


    Hubbard was a failure because he was unable to merge the
    Scientologists with the Mormons.
    Imagine "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Scientologists."
    I heard he was unable to convince the Mormon elders that Xenu and
    Kolob are just two
    different names for the same planet.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolob
    >
    > Jim


    --Bryan

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