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    Michel Boucher Guest

    Default Re: How producing “ethical, zero-harm” plant food for vegans and vegetarians kills more animals than, well, actually kill ing animals for the purpose of eating the m.

    dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote in news:jdvqok$30n$1
    @dont-email.me:

    > We could have never dreamed up this connected,
    > high speed, digital world 20 years ago, although some did.


    Thirty or so years ago I organized a conference between my
    employer, a lobby group run for the benefit of academic
    publications, our member associations and the government funding
    body that subsidized their publications.

    One of the subjects of discussion was future publishing media (as
    opposed to dead tree issue) and how they could be more cost-
    effective. One of the participants had already demonstrated that
    he could plug in his 300 baud telephone modem down at the hotel
    office and check his e-mail on his university server. He could
    probably do it in his room too.

    The idea that we should move to electronic files in order to save
    publishing costs was brought up, one which I wholeheartedly
    supported, but the idea was shelved as too extreme. It seems
    that one of the most important aspects of getting one's
    association journal was not the content as much as the "fondle
    factor".

    Of course, we have all seen Yeoman Rand bring Captain Kirk a
    tablet upon which was inscribed the duty roster, and we saw him
    appose his signature. Then later (mostly in DS9) people read
    things off thin electronic tablets. This Christmas I bought a
    tablet for myself. I have long had a "communicator", one that
    flipped open when Kirk spoke to the Enterprise in orbit.

    We are living in a Star Trek world. I wonder how we will build
    starships when the time comes...

    --

    If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn’t
    help the poor, either we’ve got to pretend that Jesus
    was just as selfish as we are, or we’ve got to acknowledge
    that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy
    without condition, and then admit that we just don’t
    want to do it.

    Stephen Colbert (via videcormeum)

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    tert in seattle Guest

    Default Re: How producing ?ethical, zero-harm? plant food for vegans andvegetarians kills more animals than, well, actually kill ing animals forthe purpose of eating the m.

    Michel Boucher wrote:
    > dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote in news:jdvqok$30n$1
    > @dont-email.me:
    >
    >> We could have never dreamed up this connected,
    >> high speed, digital world 20 years ago, although some did.

    >
    > Thirty or so years ago I organized a conference between my
    > employer, a lobby group run for the benefit of academic
    > publications, our member associations and the government funding
    > body that subsidized their publications.
    >
    > One of the subjects of discussion was future publishing media (as
    > opposed to dead tree issue) and how they could be more cost-
    > effective. One of the participants had already demonstrated that
    > he could plug in his 300 baud telephone modem down at the hotel
    > office and check his e-mail on his university server. He could
    > probably do it in his room too.
    >
    > The idea that we should move to electronic files in order to save
    > publishing costs was brought up, one which I wholeheartedly
    > supported, but the idea was shelved as too extreme. It seems
    > that one of the most important aspects of getting one's
    > association journal was not the content as much as the "fondle
    > factor".
    >
    > Of course, we have all seen Yeoman Rand bring Captain Kirk a
    > tablet upon which was inscribed the duty roster, and we saw him
    > appose his signature. Then later (mostly in DS9) people read
    > things off thin electronic tablets. This Christmas I bought a
    > tablet for myself. I have long had a "communicator", one that
    > flipped open when Kirk spoke to the Enterprise in orbit.
    >
    > We are living in a Star Trek world. I wonder how we will build
    > starships when the time comes...


    I remember back in the 90s when the conventional wisdom was that
    digital data transmission over radio waves would never be feasible.


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    David Harmon Guest

    Default Re: How producing ?ethical, zero-harm? plant food for vegans and vegetarians kills more animals than, well, actually kill ing animals for the purpose of eating the m.

    On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 00:39:34 +0000 (UTC) in rec.food.cooking, tert in
    seattle <[email protected]> wrote,
    >I remember back in the 90s when the conventional wisdom was that
    >digital data transmission over radio waves would never be feasible.


    The first radio transmissions were digital.

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    Gorio Guest

    Default Re: How producing “ethical, zero-harm” plant food for vegans and vegetarians kills more animals than, well, actually killing animals for the purpose of eating them.


    'David Harmon[_2_ Wrote:
    > ;1700521']On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 00:39:34 +0000 (UTC) in rec.food.cooking,
    > tert in
    > seattle [email protected] wrote,-
    > I remember back in the 90s when the conventional wisdom was that
    > digital data transmission over radio waves would never be feasible.-
    >
    > The first radio transmissions were digital.


    May be true; but played over an anologous source, they were palatable.
    There's a reason the sound of vacuum tubes are still preferable to many
    who hear the sweeetness, and full midrange they produce. In terms of
    amplification, IGFETS/MOSFETS tend to be much grainier and much more
    mechanical sounding, despite the advantages in the basso profundo range
    and easier maintenance.




    --
    Gorio

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