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    Orlando Enrique Fiol Guest

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    [email protected] wrote:
    >While those two women are shockingly fat, they are an expression of
    >everything currently worrying the US. They are not educated for the current
    >work situation, they probably eat too much trashy food and don't know any
    >better, their entertainment is passive, they are not served by public
    >transport in spite of living in the projects-- whose great idea would that
    >have been?-- and most of all everything is someone else's fault.


    Yeah! Whose bright idea was it to build projects in areas where their
    inhabitants would have to afford cars just to get to work? In India,
    slums are often erected near factories and even affluent neighborhoods
    to facilitate worker proximity to jobs. We tend not to plan ahead when
    it comes to common sense. The less we pay our workers, the worse they'll
    eat, the more they'll seek mind numbing entertainment as escapes, the
    more they'll take out their frustrations on each other and on society at
    large through random acts of violence, and the more of a medical burden
    on the State they will become. Saving a few bucks in salaries, insurance
    and taxes isn't worth all these social ills.

    Orlando

  2. #2
    Billy Guest

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    On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 07:44:28 GMT, Orlando Enrique Fiol
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Yeah! Whose bright idea was it to build projects in areas where their
    >inhabitants would have to afford cars just to get to work?


    If the United States of America is such a MISERABLE place to live and
    exist, why do so many want to live her. You make India sound
    like Xanadu! By the way, it isn't.

  3. #3
    Andy Guest

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    Billy said...

    > On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 07:44:28 GMT, Orlando Enrique Fiol
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>Yeah! Whose bright idea was it to build projects in areas where their
    >>inhabitants would have to afford cars just to get to work?

    >
    > If the United States of America is such a MISERABLE place to live and
    > exist, why do so many want to live her. You make India sound
    > like Xanadu! By the way, it isn't.



    India's gotta learn to eat more of those cows. Not just wait for them to die
    of exhausting worship!

    Andy

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    Edwin Pawlowski Guest

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    "Andy" <q> wrote in message
    >
    >
    > India's gotta learn to eat more of those cows. Not just wait for them to
    > die
    > of exhausting worship!
    >
    > Andy


    Watched a show about India a while back. If you own a couple of cows, you
    are in good fiscal shape. They provide milk, they provide fuel and building
    material in the form of dung. They make rather good use of the available
    resources.



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    Andy Guest

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    Edwin Pawlowski said...

    >
    > "Andy" <q> wrote in message
    >>
    >>
    >> India's gotta learn to eat more of those cows. Not just wait for them
    >> to die
    >> of exhausting worship!
    >>
    >> Andy

    >
    > Watched a show about India a while back. If you own a couple of cows,
    > you are in good fiscal shape. They provide milk, they provide fuel and
    > building material in the form of dung. They make rather good use of the
    > available resources.



    Edwin,

    Yes, I think I saw the same program on TV recently (History Channel). Dung
    for fire, housing. A multitude of uses!

    I've had Indian food once, by a friend's lunch invitation and it was
    severely deep fried. Probably just my unlucky day or his bad taste in
    Indian restaurants. Buffet style.

    Andy


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    Andy Guest

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    I did find the cow ****ting on a newlywed couple's living room floor and rug
    NOT a good omen!

    But it is, apparently.

    Andy

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    Dave Smith Guest

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    Billy wrote:

    > On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 07:44:28 GMT, Orlando Enrique Fiol
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >Yeah! Whose bright idea was it to build projects in areas where their
    > >inhabitants would have to afford cars just to get to work?

    >
    > If the United States of America is such a MISERABLE place to live and
    > exist, why do so many want to live her. You make India sound
    > like Xanadu! By the way, it isn't.


    He didn't make India sound like Xanadu. He merely questioned the
    construction of housing projects in places that made it difficult for
    people to get to work and pointed ot that in India slums are near
    factories so that people can get to work.



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    amandaF Guest

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    On Jul 26, 12:44 am, Orlando Enrique Fiol <of...@verizon.net> wrote:
    > decobabe...@yahoo.com wrote:
    > >While those two women are shockingly fat, they are an expression of
    > >everything currently worrying the US. They are not educated for the current
    > >work situation, they probably eat too much trashy food and don't know any
    > >better, their entertainment is passive, they are not served by public
    > >transport in spite of living in the projects-- whose great idea would that
    > >have been?-- and most of all everything is someone else's fault.

    >
    > Yeah! Whose bright idea was it to build projects in areas where their
    > inhabitants would have to afford cars just to get to work? In India,
    > slums are often erected near factories and even affluent neighborhoods
    > to facilitate worker proximity to jobs. We tend not to plan ahead when
    > it comes to common sense. The less we pay our workers, the worse they'll
    > eat, the more they'll seek mind numbing entertainment as escapes, the
    > more they'll take out their frustrations on each other and on society at
    > large through random acts of violence, and the more of a medical burden
    > on the State they will become. Saving a few bucks in salaries, insurance
    > and taxes isn't worth all these social ills.
    >
    > Orlando



    Not too long ago, I read an article that talked about government (or
    city) of India doing city planning involving relocating the poor
    workers away from the well-to-do neighborhood. The poor people knew
    that it would be too far for them to commute. Since they do not get
    their menial jobs offer ahead, it would be a hardship for them. I
    hope Asian countries do not start modeling western nations in their
    city planning. I like the way the poor live not far from the
    rich. It even makes it easier to give them left over food instead
    pf throwing away.

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    amandaF Guest

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    On Jul 26, 3:54 am, Billy <Hereiam@hotmaildotcom> wrote:
    > On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 07:44:28 GMT, Orlando Enrique Fiol
    >
    > <of...@verizon.net> wrote:
    > >Yeah! Whose bright idea was it to build projects in areas where their
    > >inhabitants would have to afford cars just to get to work?

    >
    > If the United States of America is such a MISERABLE place to live and
    > exist, why do so many want to live her. You make India sound
    > like Xanadu! By the way, it isn't.


    If you don't notice, more and more people are choosing not to come to
    US and among those who do come, more nd more are hear to just work (in
    IT) and go back. I recently met an Indian in his 40s, who worked in
    Nigeria for 3 years (in IT) and then got sponsored by an IT
    consulting firm (Indian firm of course) to come to US and working a
    contract job with a state agency. His plan is to work and go back.
    His wife and daughter are not here. This the new ways of life in this
    global age these days. I feel like going all over the world myself
    only if I do not have the kind of Rhinitis I have. Damn..

  10. #10
    amandaF Guest

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    On Jul 26, 5:00 am, "Edwin Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote:
    > "Andy" <q> wrote in message
    >
    > > India's gotta learn to eat more of those cows. Not just wait for them to
    > > die
    > > of exhausting worship!

    >
    > > Andy

    >
    > Watched a show about India a while back. If you own a couple of cows, you
    > are in good fiscal shape. They provide milk, they provide fuel and building
    > material in the form of dung. They make rather good use of the available
    > resources.


    Isn't it interesting that only with industrial revolution (and
    westerners leading in that arena), there has been so much wasteful
    activities in the name of competitive business. India has too big a
    population and so even with all the economic development, there will
    always be poor people but that is nothing new in a country with a old
    civilization. I bet there was a period in their ancients days where
    no one starved. In fact, reading Indus valley civilization, there
    were statement that there was no trace of warfare. May be there
    wasn't big weapon back then until the gun powder was invented. Come
    to think of it, the Chinese invented the gun powder but it was the
    west who used it large scale. Not trying to attack western culture; ma
    be the sneaky Chinese did not have the need to use it as they know how
    to swallow all their neighbor some other ways. Having said that, I
    hope people are aware that most Southeast Asians theses days have some
    Chinese blood. But the, the ancestors of these SE Asains were driven
    out to SE Asia by the Chinese anyway. I mean there were cousisns to
    begin with. But then everyone in the whole world is related anyway.
    http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/journey/

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    amandaF Guest

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    On Jul 26, 5:55 am, Andy <q> wrote:
    > I did find the cow ****ting on a newlywed couple's living room floor and rug
    > NOT a good omen!
    >
    > But it is, apparently.
    >
    > Andy


    An Indian classmate of mine told me that Hindus were using the cow'
    dung to bless their house by spreading on their floor way before they
    found out that some chemicals in it was sanitizing the floor. He meant
    that that chemical was killing some other more dangerous stuff
    (probably referring to a very very old time).

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    amandaF Guest

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    On Jul 26, 7:16 am, Dave Smith <adavid.sm...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    > Billy wrote:
    > > On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 07:44:28 GMT, Orlando Enrique Fiol
    > > <of...@verizon.net> wrote:

    >
    > > >Yeah! Whose bright idea was it to build projects in areas where their
    > > >inhabitants would have to afford cars just to get to work?

    >
    > > If the United States of America is such a MISERABLE place to live and
    > > exist, why do so many want to live her. You make India sound
    > > like Xanadu! By the way, it isn't.

    >
    > He didn't make India sound like Xanadu. He merely questioned the
    > construction of housing projects in places that made it difficult for
    > people to get to work and pointed ot that in India slums are near
    > factories so that people can get to work.


    Also, poor people live not far from the rich doing housecleaning
    work.


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    John Kane Guest

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    On Jul 26, 3:44*am, Orlando Enrique Fiol <of...@verizon.net> wrote:
    > decobabe...@yahoo.com wrote:
    > >While those two women are shockingly fat, they are an expression of
    > >everything currently worrying the US. *They are not educated for the current
    > >work situation, they probably eat too much trashy food and don't know any
    > >better, their entertainment is passive, they are not served by public
    > >transport in spite of living in the projects-- whose great idea would that
    > >have been?-- and most of all everything is someone else's fault.

    >
    > Yeah! Whose bright idea was it to build projects in areas where their
    > inhabitants would have to afford cars just to get to work?


    Middle-class urban planners who all drive to work? And who probably
    cannot conceive of not having a car? Much planning, whether it be
    North American, Australian or ,to a somewhat lesser extent, European
    is predicated on people travelling by personal automobile.

    If you followed any of the post-Hurricane Whosit ( New Orleans)
    housing fiascos, places for displaced and usually poor refugees were
    all in the boondocks.

    John Kane Kingston ON Canada

    John Kane Kingston ON Canada


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    Andy Guest

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    amandaF said...

    > On Jul 26, 5:00 am, "Edwin Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote:
    >> "Andy" <q> wrote in message
    >>
    >> > India's gotta learn to eat more of those cows. Not just wait for them
    >> > to die
    >> > of exhausting worship!

    >>
    >> > Andy

    >>
    >> Watched a show about India a while back. If you own a couple of cows,
    >> you are in good fiscal shape. They provide milk, they provide fuel and
    >> building material in the form of dung. They make rather good use of
    >> the available resources.

    >
    > Isn't it interesting that only with industrial revolution (and
    > westerners leading in that arena), there has been so much wasteful
    > activities in the name of competitive business. India has too big a
    > population and so even with all the economic development, there will
    > always be poor people but that is nothing new in a country with a old
    > civilization. I bet there was a period in their ancients days where
    > no one starved. In fact, reading Indus valley civilization, there
    > were statement that there was no trace of warfare. May be there
    > wasn't big weapon back then until the gun powder was invented. Come
    > to think of it, the Chinese invented the gun powder but it was the
    > west who used it large scale. Not trying to attack western culture; ma
    > be the sneaky Chinese did not have the need to use it as they know how
    > to swallow all their neighbor some other ways. Having said that, I
    > hope people are aware that most Southeast Asians theses days have some
    > Chinese blood. But the, the ancestors of these SE Asains were driven
    > out to SE Asia by the Chinese anyway. I mean there were cousisns to
    > begin with. But then everyone in the whole world is related anyway.
    > http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/journey/



    amandaF,

    Points taken, thanks!

    By the same token, how many people were taught to associate the abacus with
    the Chinese, when in fact, it was the Greeks that invented it?

    Best,

    Andy

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    blake murphy Guest

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    On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 06:54:33 -0400, Billy <Hereiam@hotmaildotcom>
    wrote:

    >On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 07:44:28 GMT, Orlando Enrique Fiol
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>Yeah! Whose bright idea was it to build projects in areas where their
    >>inhabitants would have to afford cars just to get to work?

    >
    >If the United States of America is such a MISERABLE place to live and
    >exist, why do so many want to live her. You make India sound
    >like Xanadu! By the way, it isn't.


    maybe he thinks it could be better, billy.

    your pal,
    blake
    ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

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    Orlando Enrique Fiol Guest

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    [email protected] wrote:
    >I hope Asian countries do not start modeling western nations in their
    >city planning. I like the way the poor live not far from the
    >rich. It even makes it easier to give them left over food instead
    >of throwing away.


    The other side of that reality, at least in most American cities, is
    that the poor often turn to crime when constantly bombarded with
    pressure to possess and consume without being given many legal
    opportunities to earn enough through work to make that possible. Raised
    to think they have no value if they don't have fancy bling bling, many
    become impatient with their lot and eventually resort to simply stealing
    or even killing for what they can't afford.

    Orlando

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    Orlando Enrique Fiol Guest

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    Hereiam@hotmaildotcom wrote:
    >If the United States of America is such a MISERABLE place to live and
    >exist, why do so many want to live here?


    Can't you do better than this tired argument? People want to live here
    primarily because a little chance of something is better than a whole
    lot of nothing in their native countries. People also have very little
    sense of the harsh realities of American life when they come here with
    stars in their eyes. They think they'll automatically find good jobs and
    affordable places to live, save up for a car, eat well and afford
    medical care. Most people can't accomplish those things in our low wage
    work force.

    >You make India sound like Xanadu! By the way, it isn't.


    I spent ten months there studying music, so I think I know a little
    something about what life is like in a few Indian cities where I stayed.
    I never said it was a paradise; I just presented one of India's urban
    planning strategies aimed at keeping the poor close to workplaces.

    Orlando

  18. #18
    Nancy Young Guest

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    Orlando Enrique Fiol wrote:

    > The other side of that reality, at least in most American cities, is
    > that the poor often turn to crime when constantly bombarded with
    > pressure to possess and consume without being given many legal
    > opportunities to earn enough through work to make that possible.
    > Raised to think they have no value if they don't have fancy bling
    > bling, many become impatient with their lot and eventually resort to
    > simply stealing or even killing for what they can't afford.


    What a sad lot in life, indeed.

    nancy

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    Orlando Enrique Fiol Guest

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    Andy <q> wrote:
    >Yes, I think I saw the same program on TV recently (History Channel). Dung
    >for fire, housing. A multitude of uses!


    I had roasted vegetables cooked over a dung fire and they didn't taste
    anything like excrement as I'd feared.

    >I've had Indian food once, by a friend's lunch invitation and it was
    >severely deep fried. Probably just my unlucky day or his bad taste in
    >Indian restaurants. Buffet style.


    Most Indian food is actually not deep fried; puri, pakora, samosa and
    paratha come to mind as deep fried delicacies. But, many Indians don't
    like them and associate them with street snacks.

    Orlando

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    Andy Guest

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    Orlando Enrique Fiol said...

    > Andy <q> wrote:
    >>Yes, I think I saw the same program on TV recently (History Channel).

    Dung
    >>for fire, housing. A multitude of uses!

    >
    > I had roasted vegetables cooked over a dung fire and they didn't taste
    > anything like excrement as I'd feared.
    >
    >>I've had Indian food once, by a friend's lunch invitation and it was
    >>severely deep fried. Probably just my unlucky day or his bad taste in
    >>Indian restaurants. Buffet style.

    >
    > Most Indian food is actually not deep fried; puri, pakora, samosa and
    > paratha come to mind as deep fried delicacies. But, many Indians don't
    > like them and associate them with street snacks.
    >
    > Orlando



    Orlando,

    I was disappointed but hey, I was in center city Philadelphia, PA.

    Pick your cuisine!

    Best,

    Andy

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