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    John Kuthe Guest

    Default Re: Best thing to cook store bought frozen pizza? Stone or metal?

    On Jul 4, 6:54*pm, m...@privacy.net wrote:
    > Do those pizza "stones" make better pizza than say a
    > metal tray to cook it on?
    >
    > Bottom line... what is best thing to cook one on?


    Directly on the oven rack. Gets the crust crispier!

    John Kuthe...

  2. #2
    sf Guest

    Default Re: Best thing to cook store bought frozen pizza? Stone or metal?

    On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 17:03:38 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Jul 4, 6:54*pm, m...@privacy.net wrote:
    >> Do those pizza "stones" make better pizza than say a
    >> metal tray to cook it on?
    >>
    >> Bottom line... what is best thing to cook one on?

    >
    >Directly on the oven rack. Gets the crust crispier!
    >
    >John Kuthe...


    You're talking about frozen pizza.

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    Sometimes I even put it in the food.

  3. #3
    Wayne Boatwright Guest

    Default Re: Best thing to cook store bought frozen pizza? Stone or metal?

    On Sat 04 Jul 2009 07:17:51p, sf told us...

    > On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 17:03:38 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>On Jul 4, 6:54*pm, m...@privacy.net wrote:
    >>> Do those pizza "stones" make better pizza than say a
    >>> metal tray to cook it on?
    >>>
    >>> Bottom line... what is best thing to cook one on?

    >>
    >>Directly on the oven rack. Gets the crust crispier!
    >>
    >>John Kuthe...

    >
    > You're talking about frozen pizza.
    >


    Yes, he is, and so was the OP. Read the "subject".

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    Wayne Boatwright
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    As a child my family's menu consisted of two choices: take it or
    leave it. ~Buddy Hackett




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    John Kuthe Guest

    Default Re: Best thing to cook store bought frozen pizza? Stone or metal?

    On Jul 4, 9:31*pm, Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwri...@arizona.usa.com>
    wrote:
    > On Sat 04 Jul 2009 07:17:51p, sf told us...
    >
    > > On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 17:03:38 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
    > > <johnku...@gmail.com> wrote:

    >
    > >>On Jul 4, 6:54*pm, m...@privacy.net wrote:
    > >>> Do those pizza "stones" make better pizza than say a
    > >>> metal tray to cook it on?

    >
    > >>> Bottom line... what is best thing to cook one on?

    >
    > >>Directly on the oven rack. Gets the crust crispier!

    >
    > >>John Kuthe...

    >
    > > You're talking about frozen pizza.

    >
    > Yes, he is, and so was the OP. *Read the "subject".
    >
    > --
    > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Wayne Boatwright * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
    > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > * *As a child my family's menu consisted of two choices: *take it or *
    > * * * * * * * * * * * *leave it. *~Buddy Hackett * * * * * * * * * * *


    Yup! "store bought frozen pizza", which are varying degrees of crap to
    begin with. I've bought a few in my life, and I've found it's best to
    bake them on an open rack to get whatever they put them on (crust) to
    not get all soggy from the moisture of the toppings and ice crystals
    from freezing them.

    John Kuthe...


  5. #5
    sf Guest

    Default Re: Best thing to cook store bought frozen pizza? Stone or metal?

    On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 02:31:49 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Sat 04 Jul 2009 07:17:51p, sf told us...
    >
    >> On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 17:03:38 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>>On Jul 4, 6:54*pm, m...@privacy.net wrote:
    >>>> Do those pizza "stones" make better pizza than say a
    >>>> metal tray to cook it on?
    >>>>
    >>>> Bottom line... what is best thing to cook one on?
    >>>
    >>>Directly on the oven rack. Gets the crust crispier!
    >>>
    >>>John Kuthe...

    >>
    >> You're talking about frozen pizza.
    >>

    >
    >Yes, he is, and so was the OP. Read the "subject".


    Slapping head.... DUH!

    Well, nothing improves frozen pizza IMO.

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    I love cooking with wine.
    Sometimes I even put it in the food.

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    =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bobo_Bonobo=AE?= Guest

    Default Re: Best thing to cook store bought frozen pizza? Stone or metal?

    On Jul 4, 9:38*pm, John Kuthe <johnku...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > On Jul 4, 9:31*pm, Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwri...@arizona.usa.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Sat 04 Jul 2009 07:17:51p, sf told us...

    >
    > > > On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 17:03:38 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
    > > > <johnku...@gmail.com> wrote:

    >
    > > >>On Jul 4, 6:54*pm, m...@privacy.net wrote:
    > > >>> Do those pizza "stones" make better pizza than say a
    > > >>> metal tray to cook it on?

    >
    > > >>> Bottom line... what is best thing to cook one on?


    On 425F
    >
    > > >>Directly on the oven rack. Gets the crust crispier!

    >
    > > >>John Kuthe...

    >
    > > > You're talking about frozen pizza.

    >
    > > Yes, he is, and so was the OP. *Read the "subject".

    >
    > > --
    > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Wayne Boatwright * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
    > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > > * *As a child my family's menu consisted of two choices: *take itor *
    > > * * * * * * * * * * * *leave it. *~Buddy Hackett * * * * * * * * * * *

    >
    > Yup! "store bought frozen pizza", which are varying degrees of crap to
    > begin with. I've bought a few in my life, and I've found it's best to
    > bake them on an open rack to get whatever they put them on (crust) to
    > not get all soggy from the moisture of the toppings and ice crystals
    > from freezing them.


    Some of them say to bake them on the rack. Others say on a cookie
    sheet, some a preheated one, some an unpreheated one. Following the
    instructions usually gets the best results.
    >
    > John Kuthe...


    --Bryan


  7. #7
    Wayne Boatwright Guest

    Default Re: Best thing to cook store bought frozen pizza? Stone or metal?

    On Sat 04 Jul 2009 07:48:53p, sf told us...

    > On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 02:31:49 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>On Sat 04 Jul 2009 07:17:51p, sf told us...
    >>
    >>> On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 17:03:38 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
    >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>On Jul 4, 6:54*pm, m...@privacy.net wrote:
    >>>>> Do those pizza "stones" make better pizza than say a
    >>>>> metal tray to cook it on?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Bottom line... what is best thing to cook one on?
    >>>>
    >>>>Directly on the oven rack. Gets the crust crispier!
    >>>>
    >>>>John Kuthe...
    >>>
    >>> You're talking about frozen pizza.
    >>>

    >>
    >>Yes, he is, and so was the OP. Read the "subject".

    >
    > Slapping head.... DUH!


    We've all been guilty of missing something.

    > Well, nothing improves frozen pizza IMO.
    >


    I totally agree, but I've been known to buy one on occasion when time
    and/or economics was of the essence.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright
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    No man is lonely eating spaghetti; it requires so much attention.
    ~Christopher Morley




  8. #8
    Goomba Guest

    Default Re: Best thing to cook store bought frozen pizza? Stone or metal?

    Wayne Boatwright wrote:

    >> Well, nothing improves frozen pizza IMO.
    >>

    >
    > I totally agree, but I've been known to buy one on occasion when time
    > and/or economics was of the essence.
    >

    I'm certainly not against using them to feed hungry boys a snack! They
    serve their function well and the price is very easy on the wallet. Even
    the pricer frozen pizzas are cheaper than pizza delivery which would be
    the boys next option when scavenging for a snack.

  9. #9
    Michael \Dog3\ Guest

    Default Re: Best thing to cook store bought frozen pizza? Stone or metal?

    John Kuthe <[email protected]> news:696cf625-7f11-493d-80c6-
    [email protected]: in rec.food.cooking

    >
    > Yup! "store bought frozen pizza", which are varying degrees of crap to
    > begin with. I've bought a few in my life, and I've found it's best to
    > bake them on an open rack to get whatever they put them on (crust) to
    > not get all soggy from the moisture of the toppings and ice crystals
    > from freezing them.


    Yep. Putting them on a pizza stone or a cookie sheet just gunks the already
    crappy crust up even more.

    Michael

    --
    “Always tell the truth - it's the easiest thing to remember”
    ~ American Playwright David Mamet

    You can find me at: - michael at lonergan dot us dot com

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    brooklyn1 Guest

    Default Re: Best thing to cook store bought frozen pizza? Stone or metal?

    "Michael "Dog3" wrote:
    > John Kuthe says:
    >> Yup! "store bought frozen pizza", which are varying degrees of crap to
    >> begin with. I've bought a few in my life, and I've found it's best to
    >> bake them on an open rack to get whatever they put them on (crust) to
    >> not get all soggy from the moisture of the toppings and ice crystals
    >> from freezing them.

    >
    > Yep. Putting them on a pizza stone or a cookie sheet just gunks the
    > already
    > crappy crust up even more.
    >
    >

    Best for baking any pizza is a pizza screen. Using those silly stones in a
    *home* oven is idiotic... flies in the face of science... it's just not
    possible to turn a home oven into a commercial brick oven. Even pizzarias
    with commercial pizza ovens are using pizza screens.




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    jmcquown Guest

    Default Re: Best thing to cook store bought frozen pizza? Stone or metal?

    "sf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 02:31:49 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>On Sat 04 Jul 2009 07:17:51p, sf told us...
    >>
    >>> On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 17:03:38 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
    >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>On Jul 4, 6:54 pm, m...@privacy.net wrote:
    >>>>> Do those pizza "stones" make better pizza than say a
    >>>>> metal tray to cook it on?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Bottom line... what is best thing to cook one on?
    >>>>
    >>>>Directly on the oven rack. Gets the crust crispier!
    >>>>
    >>>>John Kuthe...
    >>>
    >>> You're talking about frozen pizza.
    >>>

    >>
    >>Yes, he is, and so was the OP. Read the "subject".

    >
    > Slapping head.... DUH!
    >
    > Well, nothing improves frozen pizza IMO.
    >


    That may be true in your world, sf, but not in mine. When was the last time
    you made a pizza from scratch, crust, sauce and all? I recall the last time
    I went to all the trouble, and it was a pain in the ass for one large pizza.

    There are a number of good frozen pizzas out there. IMHO it's worth
    enhancing one with different types of toppings, herbs and cheeses of your
    choice rather than paying $28 (est.) for delivery of a so-so pizza.

    Regarding Frozen pizza: I'm not a fan of Red Barron, DiGiorno "rising
    crust" or otherwise or any "French bread" pizzas. (I really don't want a
    plate full of bread with a few toppings on it.)

    Every few months I crave pizza. I can easily buy a frozen pizza (usually
    the store brand thin or medium crust) and doctor it with extra ingredients.
    Tastes pretty darned good. But as I said, I'm not a huge fan of pizza. I
    definitely don't eat cold leftover pizza for breakfast

    Jill


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    Norman Paperman Guest

    Default Re: Best thing to cook store bought frozen pizza? Stone or metal?


    "jmcquown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > "sf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    >> On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 02:31:49 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>>On Sat 04 Jul 2009 07:17:51p, sf told us...
    >>>
    >>>> On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 17:03:38 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
    >>>> <johnku[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>On Jul 4, 6:54 pm, m...@privacy.net wrote:
    >>>>>> Do those pizza "stones" make better pizza than say a
    >>>>>> metal tray to cook it on?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Bottom line... what is best thing to cook one on?
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Directly on the oven rack. Gets the crust crispier!
    >>>>>
    >>>>>John Kuthe...
    >>>>
    >>>> You're talking about frozen pizza.
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>Yes, he is, and so was the OP. Read the "subject".

    >>
    >> Slapping head.... DUH!
    >>
    >> Well, nothing improves frozen pizza IMO.
    >>

    >
    > That may be true in your world, sf, but not in mine. When was the last
    > time you made a pizza from scratch, crust, sauce and all? I recall the
    > last time I went to all the trouble, and it was a pain in the ass for one
    > large pizza.


    Yesterday. It wasn't a "pain in the ass", it was very easy, and it was
    great! Yes, crust, sauce and all.

    >
    > There are a number of good frozen pizzas out there. IMHO it's worth
    > enhancing one with different types of toppings, herbs and cheeses of your
    > choice rather than paying $28 (est.) for delivery of a so-so pizza.


    Yeah, right. Oxymoron. Good. Frozen pizza.

    >
    > Regarding Frozen pizza: I'm not a fan of Red Barron, DiGiorno "rising
    > crust" or otherwise or any "French bread" pizzas. (I really don't want a
    > plate full of bread with a few toppings on it.)
    >
    > Every few months I crave pizza. I can easily buy a frozen pizza (usually
    > the store brand thin or medium crust) and doctor it with extra
    > ingredients. Tastes pretty darned good. But as I said, I'm not a huge fan
    > of pizza. I definitely don't eat cold leftover pizza for breakfast


    Your taste must have followed sheldum. It seems it's migrated to your ass.
    >
    > Jill

    Norman



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    sf Guest

    Default Re: Best thing to cook store bought frozen pizza? Stone or metal?

    On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 13:10:56 -0400, "jmcquown" <[email protected]>
    wrote:
    >"sf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>
    >> Well, nothing improves frozen pizza IMO.


    >That may be true in your world, sf, but not in mine. When was the last time
    >you made a pizza from scratch, crust, sauce and all?


    I made pizza last week.... Wednesday, to be exact. No shopping
    required. It was a last minute idea and everything I needed was on
    hand.





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    Sometimes I even put it in the food.

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    jmcquown Guest

    Default Re: Best thing to cook store bought frozen pizza? Stone or metal?

    "sf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 13:10:56 -0400, "jmcquown" <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >>"sf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>
    >>> Well, nothing improves frozen pizza IMO.

    >
    >>That may be true in your world, sf, but not in mine. When was the last
    >>time
    >>you made a pizza from scratch, crust, sauce and all?

    >
    > I made pizza last week.... Wednesday, to be exact. No shopping
    > required. It was a last minute idea and everything I needed was on
    > hand.
    >
    >


    Good for you! I'm not that interested in pizza. I've made it at home a few
    times but it's been at least 10 years. I'd rather just doctor up a good
    frozen pizza if someone (John!) must have a pizza. And there *are* good
    frozen pizzas.

    For those who care to make their own, this one is great if you like bread
    with toppings From the Culianary Arts Institute Cookbook, circa 1989:

    Beer Drinkers Deep Pan Pizza

    Crust:
    1 c. warm beer
    4 Tbs. olive oil or salad oil
    1 Tbs. sugar
    1-1/2 tsp. salt
    1 pkg. active dry yeast
    2-3/4 - 3-2/4 c. all purpose flour
    2 Tbs. cornmeal

    Toppings:

    12 oz. mozarella, shredded or thinly sliced
    6 oz. can tomato paste
    1/2 c. beer
    2 tsp. oregano
    1 tsp. fennel seed
    1/2 tsp. sugar
    1 lb. bulk Italian sweet sausage, browned
    1/2 c. grated Parmesan

    Combine in a large bowl the warm beer, 2 tablespoons of oil, sugar, salt and
    the yeast. Add 1-1/2 c. flour and beat until smooth. Stir in enough
    additional flour to make a fairly stiff dough.Turn the dough onto a floured
    surface. Knead until smooth and elastic (about 5 minutes). Place dough in
    a large greased bowl, turning once to grease the top. Cover and let rise in
    a warm place, until doubled in bulk (about 1 hour). Punch the dough down.
    Using 2 Tbs. oil, coat a 14 inch round deep pizza pan. Sprinkle with
    cornmeal. Pat dough into a deep crust pizza pan, pinching up a rim around
    the edge. Cover and let rise until double in bulk (about 30 minutes).

    Mix tomato paste, beer, oregano, fennel seed and sugar. Let the mixture
    stand a bit to incorporate the flavors. Cover pizza dough evenly with
    mozarella. Spoon tomato paste mixture over the top. Sprinkle with sausage,
    and add mushrooms, onions, jalapenos, whatever else you want at this point.
    Then top with Parmesan. Bake at 450 about 15-20 minutes or until crust is
    browned. Makes 1 large deep crust or 2 smaller deep crust pizzas.

    Jill


  15. #15
    Becca Guest

    Default Re: Best thing to cook store bought frozen pizza? Stone or metal?

    These are the pizza screens I have used for about 20 years, they work
    well on frozen or home made pizza. Mine no longer look this attractive,
    but they work great.

    http://www.webstaurantstore.com/amer.../12428712.html


    Becca

  16. #16
    brooklyn1 Guest

    Default Re: Best thing to cook store bought frozen pizza? Stone or metal?


    "Becca" wrote:
    >
    > These are the pizza screens I have used for about 20 years, they work well
    > on frozen or home made pizza. Mine no longer look this attractive, but
    > they work great.
    >
    > http://www.webstaurantstore.com/amer.../12428712.html
    >
    >

    Yes, I posted about pizza screens yesterday and a few times over the years,
    but that's not a pizza screen, that's a perforated pizza crisper pan.
    Chicago metallic used to sell it as a three piece set with a deep dish pizza
    pan and a pizza knife... I have the set, purchased like 25 years ago. They
    now sell the two pans individually... I suppose due to large price
    increases, I paid less for the set as they now price each piece
    individually. The perforated pan sits atop the deep dish pan making for
    easy serving and keeps the crust bottom crispy by preventing condensation.
    I use the deep dish pan for sticky buns... you don't want to do that unless
    you want all your slacks to make your ass look big. LOL

    http://www.chefscatalog.com/catalog/...icago+Metallic

    This is a pizza screen, used by most pizzarias nowadays, available in many
    sizes:
    http://www.bakedeco.com/detail.asp?id=1526

    The perforated pizza crisper pan (like yours) works better in home ovens,
    and it's much sturdier than a pizza screen, it costs more but it'll last a
    lifetime. As with all steel bakeware, the blacker it gets the better it
    will bake... do not scrub your steel bakeware shiny.




  17. #17
    Omelet Guest

    Default Re: Best thing to cook store bought frozen pizza? Stone or metal?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "jmcquown" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Every few months I crave pizza. I can easily buy a frozen pizza (usually
    > the store brand thin or medium crust) and doctor it with extra ingredients.
    > Tastes pretty darned good. But as I said, I'm not a huge fan of pizza. I
    > definitely don't eat cold leftover pizza for breakfast
    >
    > Jill


    There is always cracker pizza. <g> Ritz or saltines work ok as the
    "crust". :-)
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  18. #18
    Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq. Guest

    Default Re: Best thing to cook store bought frozen pizza? Stone or metal?



    Becca wrote:
    > These are the pizza screens I have used for about 20 years, they work
    > well on frozen or home made pizza. Mine no longer look this attractive,
    > but they work great.
    >
    > http://www.webstaurantstore.com/amer.../12428712.html
    >
    >
    > Becca


    For years i made pizza in a pizza pan, recently i found out i have been
    using a paella pan all this time

    Works well though, for home made or frozen.
    --
    Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.

    Domine, dirige nos.
    Let the games
    begin!http://a1692.g.akamai.net/f/1692/204...ie_en_rose.mp3


  19. #19
    [email protected] Guest

    Default Re: Best thing to cook store bought frozen pizza? Stone or metal?

    "brooklyn1" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >The perforated pizza crisper pan (like yours) works better in home ovens,


    Home come the pizza SCREEN wont work well in home oven?

    What abt home convection oven?

  20. #20
    D K Guest

    Default Re: Best thing to cook store bought frozen pizza? Stone or metal?

    jmcquown wrote:
    > "sf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    >> On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 13:10:56 -0400, "jmcquown" <[email protected]>
    >> wrote:
    >>> "sf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>>
    >>>> Well, nothing improves frozen pizza IMO.

    >>
    >>> That may be true in your world, sf, but not in mine. When was the
    >>> last time
    >>> you made a pizza from scratch, crust, sauce and all?

    >>
    >> I made pizza last week.... Wednesday, to be exact. No shopping
    >> required. It was a last minute idea and everything I needed was on
    >> hand.
    >>
    >>

    >
    > Good for you! I'm not that interested in pizza. I've made it at home a
    > few times but it's been at least 10 years. I'd rather just doctor up a
    > good frozen pizza if someone (John!) must have a pizza. And there *are*
    > good frozen pizzas.


    Here you go with the "John" thing again. Why not pick a better name?
    Those soap operas have names women must love like "Dimitri" or "Trey".

    -dk

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