Thread: Rainbow swiss chard

On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 16:14:43 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Flowering kale and regular kale aren't that much different for flavor in
> my experience. is rainbow chard much different from all-green chard?

Perking up.... I didn't know flowering kale was edible! Ad isn't
talking about the differences between green chard and colored chard,
s/he is talking about the difference between beet greens and chard.

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On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 22:08:16 -0700, sf <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 16:14:43 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Flowering kale and regular kale aren't that much different for flavor in
>> my experience. is rainbow chard much different from all-green chard?
>
>Perking up.... I didn't know flowering kale was edible! Ad isn't
>talking about the differences between green chard and colored chard,
>s/he is talking about the difference between beet greens and chard.

Yes, a very sensitive subject, apparently.

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Ad

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]d
says...

> And of course they're not identical. One is good at creating roots and
> the other's good at creating leaves. But don't expect the two types of
> leaves to taste very different, because you're basically eating the
> same thing.

So according to you, nobody can distinguish the tastes of different
melons.. or apples, beans, tomatoes....

Maybe you're just a lousy cook?

Janet

On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 13:25:40 +0100, Janet <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]d
>says...
>
>> And of course they're not identical. One is good at creating roots and
>> the other's good at creating leaves. But don't expect the two types of
>> leaves to taste very different, because you're basically eating the
>> same thing.
>
> So according to you, nobody can distinguish the tastes of different
>melons.. or apples, beans, tomatoes....
>
> Maybe you're just a lousy cook?

That's for sure!

--
Ad

Ad wrote:
>
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 13:25:40 +0100, Janet <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]d
> >says...
> >
> >> And of course they're not identical. One is good at creating roots and
> >> the other's good at creating leaves. But don't expect the two types of
> >> leaves to taste very different, because you're basically eating the
> >> same thing.
> >
> > So according to you, nobody can distinguish the tastes of different
> >melons.. or apples, beans, tomatoes....
> >
> > Maybe you're just a lousy cook?
>
> That's for sure!
>
> --
> Ad

hahaha LOL!

sf wrote:
> Doug Freyburger <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Perking up.... I didn't know flowering kale was edible!

If I'm certain it has not been sprayed for bugs I'll pull a leave and
munch. Doesn't happen often but the flavor is very much like regular
green kale from the grocery store.

> Ad isn't
> talking about the differences between green chard and colored chard,

I changed the subject a bit.

sf <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 16:14:43 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Flowering kale and regular kale aren't that much different for
>> flavor in my experience. is rainbow chard much different from
>> all-green chard?
>
> Perking up.... I didn't know flowering kale was edible! Ad isn't
> talking about the differences between green chard and colored chard,
> s/he is talking about the difference between beet greens and chard.

Ad was trying to convince us that they are the same plant, but Ad has also
gradually walked it back after repeatedly insisting it was so.

On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:43:31 -0500, "Nunya Bidnits"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>sf <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 16:14:43 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Flowering kale and regular kale aren't that much different for
>>> flavor in my experience. is rainbow chard much different from
>>> all-green chard?
>>
>> Perking up.... I didn't know flowering kale was edible! Ad isn't
>> talking about the differences between green chard and colored chard,
>> s/he is talking about the difference between beet greens and chard.
>
>Ad was trying to convince us that they are the same plant, but Ad has also
>gradually walked it back after repeatedly insisting it was so.

As I was explaining my idea about the similarity of chard and beet
greens I was told the following by "Nunya Bidnits" aka MartyB:

"You're probably a life-deprived desperate troll."

"Apparently Ad is short for ad hominem. It's the signature tactic of
fools and trolls. I figure you for both."

"I'm getting a distinct stench of troll."

"FOAD, troll." (I had to look FOAD up, but apparently it's short for
**** Off And Die.)

Ever since that conversation, I've been wondering who of us was the
unreasonable one

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Ad

On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:28:42 +1000, Ad <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:43:31 -0500, "Nunya Bidnits"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >sf <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 16:14:43 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Flowering kale and regular kale aren't that much different for
> >>> flavor in my experience. is rainbow chard much different from
> >>> all-green chard?
> >>
> >> Perking up.... I didn't know flowering kale was edible! Ad isn't
> >> talking about the differences between green chard and colored chard,
> >> s/he is talking about the difference between beet greens and chard.
> >
> >Ad was trying to convince us that they are the same plant, but Ad has also
> >gradually walked it back after repeatedly insisting it was so.
>
> As I was explaining my idea about the similarity of chard and beet
> greens I was told the following by "Nunya Bidnits" aka MartyB:
>
> "You're probably a life-deprived desperate troll."
>
> "Apparently Ad is short for ad hominem. It's the signature tactic of
> fools and trolls. I figure you for both."
>
> "I'm getting a distinct stench of troll."
>
> "FOAD, troll." (I had to look FOAD up, but apparently it's short for
> **** Off And Die.)
>
> Ever since that conversation, I've been wondering who of us was the
> unreasonable one

To be perfectly honest, I took you for a troll on your first post...
but since then, I've been wondering who you are/were. You're too
experienced with usenet posting not to have a background here or some
other high traffic (verbal) newsgroup and I've decided that I like
you. No reason for it. Maybe you came here originally to troll, but
I don't think that's why you're staying. If I'm right, it's happened
before - so no shame in that.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 23:03:39 -0700, sf <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:28:42 +1000, Ad <[email protected]> wrote:

>> Ever since that conversation, I've been wondering who of us was the
>> unreasonable one
>
>To be perfectly honest, I took you for a troll on your first post...
>but since then, I've been wondering who you are/were. You're too
>experienced with usenet posting not to have a background here or some
>other high traffic (verbal) newsgroup and I've decided that I like
>you. No reason for it. Maybe you came here originally to troll, but
>I don't think that's why you're staying. If I'm right, it's happened
>before - so no shame in that.

Thanks! I didn't mean to troll, but I underestimated the touchy nature
of the topic.

--
Ad

On Apr 27, 6:26*pm, Ad <a...@ad.invalid> wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 23:03:39 -0700, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> >On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:28:42 +1000, Ad <a...@ad.invalid> wrote:
> >> Ever since that conversation, I've been wondering who of us was the
> >> unreasonable one
>
> >To be perfectly honest, I took you for a troll on your first post...
> >but since then, I've been wondering who you are/were. *You're too
> >experienced with usenet posting not to have a background here or some
> >other high traffic (verbal) newsgroup and I've decided that I like
> >you. *No reason for it. *Maybe you came here originally to troll, but
> >I don't think that's why you're staying. *If I'm right, it's happened
> >before - so no shame in that.
>
> Thanks! I didn't mean to troll, but I underestimated the touchy nature
> of the topic.
>
> --
> Ad

I just returned from our local farmer's market, and bought a beautiful
bunch of small beets- I love the greens. Right next to them was swiss
chard, which I thought was beet greens at first glance. I bought them
both, but undecided if I should cook both greens together. I usually
just have them with a nice vinegar, but I know my mom gas a recipe for
a chard salad...

On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 11:47:29 -0700 (PDT), merryb <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Apr 27, 6:26*pm, Ad <a...@ad.invalid> wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 23:03:39 -0700, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
>> >On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:28:42 +1000, Ad <a...@ad.invalid> wrote:
>> >> Ever since that conversation, I've been wondering who of us was the
>> >> unreasonable one
>>
>> >To be perfectly honest, I took you for a troll on your first post...
>> >but since then, I've been wondering who you are/were. *You're too
>> >experienced with usenet posting not to have a background here or some
>> >other high traffic (verbal) newsgroup and I've decided that I like
>> >you. *No reason for it. *Maybe you came here originally to troll, but
>> >I don't think that's why you're staying. *If I'm right, it's happened
>> >before - so no shame in that.
>>
>> Thanks! I didn't mean to troll, but I underestimated the touchy nature
>> of the topic.
>>
>> --
>> Ad
>
>I just returned from our local farmer's market, and bought a beautiful
>bunch of small beets- I love the greens. Right next to them was swiss
>chard, which I thought was beet greens at first glance. I bought them
>both, but undecided if I should cook both greens together. I usually
>just have them with a nice vinegar, but I know my mom gas a recipe for
>a chard salad...

Botanically there is no difference between chard and beet, they are a
variety of the same plant, just as there are many varieties of chard
and beet, with some varieties having both leaf and small edible root
(there is no way to draw the line). Cooked there is no way to taste
the difference between beet tops and chard... in fact it doesn't even
need to be cooked, just remove the root section from both and side by
side you cannot tell which is which. I've grown both chard and beets
and while in the ground no one can tell which is which, best one can
do is guess. In fact their seeds look exactly alike, and once I
planted chard seeds and beets grew... seeds very often get switched in
the packaging, happens very often with squash seeds. Botanically
there is no difference between green zucchini and yellow zuchinni, and
blindfolded no one can taste the difference. Some varieties of beet
and chard are grown primarilly for their stems. I know how to grow
beets so that they produce a mass of leaves and practically no root,
can do the same with turnips.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chard
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beet

On Apr 28, 12:46*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 11:47:29 -0700 (PDT), merryb <msg...@juno.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Apr 27, 6:26*pm, Ad <a...@ad.invalid> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 23:03:39 -0700, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:28:42 +1000, Ad <a...@ad.invalid> wrote:
> >> >> Ever since that conversation, I've been wondering who of us was the
> >> >> unreasonable one
>
> >> >To be perfectly honest, I took you for a troll on your first post...
> >> >but since then, I've been wondering who you are/were. *You're too
> >> >experienced with usenet posting not to have a background here or some
> >> >other high traffic (verbal) newsgroup and I've decided that I like
> >> >you. *No reason for it. *Maybe you came here originally to troll,but
> >> >I don't think that's why you're staying. *If I'm right, it's happened
> >> >before - so no shame in that.
>
> >> Thanks! I didn't mean to troll, but I underestimated the touchy nature
> >> of the topic.
>
> >> --
> >> Ad
>
> >I just returned from our local farmer's market, and bought a beautiful
> >bunch of small beets- I love the greens. Right next to them was swiss
> >chard, which I thought was beet greens at first glance. I bought them
> >both, but undecided if I should cook both greens together. *I usually
> >just have them with a nice vinegar, but I know my mom gas a recipe for
> >a chard salad...
>
> Botanically there is no difference between chard and beet, they are a
> variety of the same plant, just as there are many varieties of chard
> and beet, with some varieties having both leaf and small edible root
> (there is no way to draw the line). *Cooked there is no way to taste
> the difference between beet tops and chard... in fact it doesn't even
> need to be cooked, just remove the root section from both and side by
> side you cannot tell which is which. *I've grown both chard and beets
> and while in the ground no one can tell which is which, best one can
> do is guess. *In fact their seeds look exactly alike, and once I
> planted chard seeds and beets grew... seeds very often get switched in
> the packaging, happens very often with squash seeds. *Botanically
> there is no difference between green zucchini and yellow zuchinni, and
> blindfolded no one can taste the difference. *Some varieties of beet
> and chard are grown primarilly for their stems. *I know how to grow
> beets so that they produce a mass of leaves and practically no root,
> can do the same with turnips.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chardht....org/wiki/Beet

Thank you, and you are right about them being identical as they both
have red stems. I tried to grow beets here last year, but we just
don't get enough sun.

On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 11:47:29 -0700 (PDT), merryb <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> I just returned from our local farmer's market, and bought a beautiful
> bunch of small beets- I love the greens. Right next to them was swiss
> chard, which I thought was beet greens at first glance. I bought them
> both, but undecided if I should cook both greens together. I usually
> just have them with a nice vinegar, but I know my mom gas a recipe for
> a chard salad...

I posted a recipe last week that calls for both beets and chard (must
have been a different thread). Here it is again:

Roasted Beets and Red Chard Greens
http://www.cookingchanneltv.com/reci...ipe/index.html
Recipe courtesy Chuck Hughes
Show: Chuck's Day Off Episode: The Landlords

There are also lots of warm salads that call for roasted beets and
chard on the net.


--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Apr 28, 3:11*pm, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 11:47:29 -0700 (PDT), merryb <msg...@juno.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I just returned from our local farmer's market, and bought a beautiful
> > bunch of small beets- I love the greens. Right next to them was swiss
> > chard, which I thought was beet greens at first glance. I bought them
> > both, but undecided if I should cook both greens together. *I usually
> > just have them with a nice vinegar, but I know my mom gas a recipe for
> > a chard salad...
>
> I posted a recipe last week that calls for both beets and chard (must
> have been a different thread). *Here it is again:
>
> Roasted Beets and Red Chard Greens *http://www.cookingchanneltv.com/reci...asted-beets-an...
> Recipe courtesy Chuck Hughes
> Show: Chuck's Day Off *Episode: The Landlords
>
> There are also lots of warm salads that call for roasted beets and
> chard on the net.
>
> --
> Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

Thanks, but I plan on cooking them separately- greens with vinegar and
the beets with butter, s, and p. I only recently decided to try beets
again as I had bad childhood memories of them, and discovered I kinda
like them!

merryb <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Apr 28, 12:46 pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 11:47:29 -0700 (PDT), merryb <msg...@juno.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 27, 6:26 pm, Ad <a...@ad.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 23:03:39 -0700, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:28:42 +1000, Ad <a...@ad.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> Ever since that conversation, I've been wondering who of us was
>>>>>> the unreasonable one
>>
>>>>> To be perfectly honest, I took you for a troll on your first
>>>>> post... but since then, I've been wondering who you are/were.
>>>>> You're too experienced with usenet posting not to have a
>>>>> background here or some other high traffic (verbal) newsgroup and
>>>>> I've decided that I like you. No reason for it. Maybe you came
>>>>> here originally to troll, but I don't think that's why you're
>>>>> staying. If I'm right, it's happened before - so no shame in that.
>>
>>>> Thanks! I didn't mean to troll, but I underestimated the touchy
>>>> nature of the topic.
>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ad
>>
>>> I just returned from our local farmer's market, and bought a
>>> beautiful bunch of small beets- I love the greens. Right next to
>>> them was swiss chard, which I thought was beet greens at first
>>> glance. I bought them both, but undecided if I should cook both
>>> greens together. I usually just have them with a nice vinegar, but
>>> I know my mom gas a recipe for a chard salad...
>>
>> Botanically there is no difference between chard and beet, they are a
>> variety of the same plant, just as there are many varieties of chard
>> and beet, with some varieties having both leaf and small edible root
>> (there is no way to draw the line). Cooked there is no way to taste
>> the difference between beet tops and chard... in fact it doesn't even
>> need to be cooked, just remove the root section from both and side by
>> side you cannot tell which is which. I've grown both chard and beets
>> and while in the ground no one can tell which is which, best one can
>> do is guess. In fact their seeds look exactly alike, and once I
>> planted chard seeds and beets grew... seeds very often get switched
>> in
>> the packaging, happens very often with squash seeds. Botanically
>> there is no difference between green zucchini and yellow zuchinni,
>> and
>> blindfolded no one can taste the difference. Some varieties of beet
>> and chard are grown primarilly for their stems. I know how to grow
>> beets so that they produce a mass of leaves and practically no root,
>> can do the same with
>> turnips.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chardht....org/wiki/Beet
>
> Thank you, and you are right about them being identical as they both
> have red stems.

Then where is the red beet root in the soil under your chard?

They aren't the same plant!

Sheesh!

MartyB

Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:34:04 -0700 (PDT), merryb <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Apr 28, 12:46 pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 11:47:29 -0700 (PDT), merryb <msg...@juno.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Apr 27, 6:26 pm, Ad <a...@ad.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 23:03:39 -0700, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:28:42 +1000, Ad <a...@ad.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> Ever since that conversation, I've been wondering who of us was
>>>>>>> the unreasonable one
>>>
>>>>>> To be perfectly honest, I took you for a troll on your first
>>>>>> post... but since then, I've been wondering who you are/were.
>>>>>> You're too experienced with usenet posting not to have a
>>>>>> background here or some other high traffic (verbal) newsgroup
>>>>>> and I've decided that I like you. No reason for it. Maybe you
>>>>>> came here originally to troll, but I don't think that's why
>>>>>> you're staying. If I'm right, it's happened before - so no shame
>>>>>> in that.
>>>
>>>>> Thanks! I didn't mean to troll, but I underestimated the touchy
>>>>> nature of the topic.
>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ad
>>>
>>>> I just returned from our local farmer's market, and bought a
>>>> beautiful bunch of small beets- I love the greens. Right next to
>>>> them was swiss chard, which I thought was beet greens at first
>>>> glance. I bought them both, but undecided if I should cook both
>>>> greens together. I usually just have them with a nice vinegar, but
>>>> I know my mom gas a recipe for a chard salad...
>>>
>>> Botanically there is no difference between chard and beet, they are
>>> a
>>> variety of the same plant, just as there are many varieties of chard
>>> and beet, with some varieties having both leaf and small edible root
>>> (there is no way to draw the line). Cooked there is no way to taste
>>> the difference between beet tops and chard... in fact it doesn't
>>> even
>>> need to be cooked, just remove the root section from both and side
>>> by
>>> side you cannot tell which is which. I've grown both chard and beets
>>> and while in the ground no one can tell which is which, best one can
>>> do is guess. In fact their seeds look exactly alike, and once I
>>> planted chard seeds and beets grew... seeds very often get switched
>>> in
>>> the packaging, happens very often with squash seeds. Botanically
>>> there is no difference between green zucchini and yellow zuchinni,
>>> and
>>> blindfolded no one can taste the difference. Some varieties of beet
>>> and chard are grown primarilly for their stems. I know how to grow
>>> beets so that they produce a mass of leaves and practically no root,
>>> can do the same with
>>> turnips.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chardht....org/wiki/Beet
>>
>> Thank you, and you are right about them being identical as they both
>> have red stems. I tried to grow beets here last year, but we just
>> don't get enough sun.
>
> Beets need full sun but they also need cool weather, here in New
> England they are typically planted in very early spring. If planted
> in hot climes or planted late they will bolt.

Well then just wave your magic wand and turn them into chard. After all,
they are the same plant, right?

sf <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:28:42 +1000, Ad <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:43:31 -0500, "Nunya Bidnits"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> sf <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 16:14:43 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Flowering kale and regular kale aren't that much different for
>>>>> flavor in my experience. is rainbow chard much different from
>>>>> all-green chard?
>>>>
>>>> Perking up.... I didn't know flowering kale was edible! Ad isn't
>>>> talking about the differences between green chard and colored
>>>> chard, s/he is talking about the difference between beet greens
>>>> and chard.
>>>
>>> Ad was trying to convince us that they are the same plant, but Ad
>>> has also gradually walked it back after repeatedly insisting it was
>>> so.
>>
>> As I was explaining my idea about the similarity of chard and beet
>> greens I was told the following by "Nunya Bidnits" aka MartyB:
>>
>> "You're probably a life-deprived desperate troll."
>>
>> "Apparently Ad is short for ad hominem. It's the signature tactic of
>> fools and trolls. I figure you for both."
>>
>> "I'm getting a distinct stench of troll."
>>
>> "FOAD, troll." (I had to look FOAD up, but apparently it's short for
>> **** Off And Die.)
>>
>> Ever since that conversation, I've been wondering who of us was the
>> unreasonable one
>
> To be perfectly honest, I took you for a troll on your first post...
> but since then, I've been wondering who you are/were. You're too
> experienced with usenet posting not to have a background here or some
> other high traffic (verbal) newsgroup and I've decided that I like
> you. No reason for it. Maybe you came here originally to troll, but
> I don't think that's why you're staying. If I'm right, it's happened
> before - so no shame in that.

What more could a troll ask for?

On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:40:53 -0700 (PDT), merryb <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I only recently decided to try beets
> again as I had bad childhood memories of them, and discovered I kinda
> like them!

Try roasting them, they're delicious that way.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.