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  1. #1
    Cheryl Guest

    Default Quitting smoking -- not completely off topic

    I have said to myself a lot over the last couple of years that I REALLY need
    to quit smoking. Doctors have, too. Even my dentist said how smoking can
    interfere with blood flow and bring back my periodontal disease. Eye doctor
    said I could lose my sight for the same reason given my eye pressure
    readings. Anyway.........................

    I just got this electronic cigarette with "juice" to fill the cartridges
    that produce vapor in the flavors of cheesecake, pina colada and cloves (the
    not off topic part). No, not all mixed, three separate dropper bottles. I
    guess the idea is to still make it feel like you're smoking but re-associate
    the action with flavors not normally associated with smoking. Except for
    the cloves, of course. But that's my favorite flavor so far.

    I tried an electronic cigarette a couple of years ago, but wow, they have
    really improved since then, and this might actually work for me.


  2. #2
    Andy Guest

    Default Re: Quitting smoking -- not completely off topic

    "Cheryl" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > I have said to myself a lot over the last couple of years that I
    > REALLY need to quit smoking. Doctors have, too. Even my dentist said
    > how smoking can interfere with blood flow and bring back my
    > periodontal disease. Eye doctor said I could lose my sight for the
    > same reason given my eye pressure readings.
    > Anyway.........................
    >
    > I just got this electronic cigarette with "juice" to fill the
    > cartridges that produce vapor in the flavors of cheesecake, pina
    > colada and cloves (the not off topic part). No, not all mixed, three
    > separate dropper bottles. I guess the idea is to still make it feel
    > like you're smoking but re-associate the action with flavors not
    > normally associated with smoking. Except for the cloves, of course.
    > But that's my favorite flavor so far.
    >
    > I tried an electronic cigarette a couple of years ago, but wow, they
    > have really improved since then, and this might actually work for me.



    Forgive me if I come off too strong but for what it's worth...

    My first advice: Don't quit, give them up instead.
    Quitting is self defeating in a mental sense.

    Next, don't belabor others with your giving up the habit. Just keep it
    to yourself.

    The only proven successful method is giving them up cold turkey!
    Substituting one thing for another is NOT AT ALL helpful.

    Add up the financial cost of the habit. Think of the cost savings. I
    quit purely for financial rather than health reasons. I refused to pay
    $4.00 a pack * 2 a day ($320/month) to let the tobacco industry kill
    me. In turn I did all kinds of crazy stuff, like buy satellite radio.

    Throw out all your ashtrays, except one, for company.

    Don't keep a single cigarette around!

    You can't ever have just have one! EVER!!!


    Withdrawal: (negative AND positive)

    You'll go through knee-jerk reactions, i.e., reaching for the pack of
    cigarettes that isn't there. Me, it lasted two months or more.

    The mental strain/withdrawal is more potent than the physical, imho.

    You may or may not gain weight, depending upon whether you have a severe
    "sucking your thumb" syndrome or not, which is what smoking is in large
    part all about.

    Sense of smell, things will begin tasting better or worse as your taste
    buds slowly re-acquaint themselves.

    You'll still smell the tar and/or nicotine in the wall paint for years
    if you don't wash and repaint them. I did and I can STILL smell it. At
    least it's not airborne and I'm not inhaling it.

    You yourself will smell better to others.


    You can do it. I did!

    Remember: NO SUBSTITUTES!!!

    Just don't think of it as quitting! You're not a quitter! You're a give
    it up'er!

    Andy

  3. #3
    Cheryl Guest

    Default Re: Quitting smoking -- not completely off topic

    On Wed 03 Nov 2010 10:06:32p, Andy wrote in rec.food.cooking
    <news:[email protected]>:

    > Forgive me if I come off too strong but for what it's worth...
    >
    > My first advice: Don't quit, give them up instead.
    > Quitting is self defeating in a mental sense.
    >
    > Next, don't belabor others with your giving up the habit. Just
    > keep it to yourself.
    >

    But networking can help others.

    > The only proven successful method is giving them up cold turkey!
    > Substituting one thing for another is NOT AT ALL helpful.
    >

    Sure it is.

    > Add up the financial cost of the habit. Think of the cost
    > savings. I quit


    I thought you said not to say "quit"?

    purely for financial rather than health reasons.
    > I refused to pay $4.00 a pack * 2 a day ($320/month) to let the
    > tobacco industry kill me. In turn I did all kinds of crazy
    > stuff, like buy satellite radio.
    >

    It's been a while since you smoked if they cost $4 a pack when you
    quit. Try $6 or $7 or more now. Yikes. It pains me to think of
    how much I spend to kill myself. Nicotine is a wicked addiction.


    > Throw out all your ashtrays, except one, for company.
    >
    > Don't keep a single cigarette around!
    >
    > You can't ever have just have one! EVER!!!
    >
    >
    > Withdrawal: (negative AND positive)
    >
    > You'll go through knee-jerk reactions, i.e., reaching for the
    > pack of cigarettes that isn't there. Me, it lasted two months or
    > more.
    >
    > The mental strain/withdrawal is more potent than the physical,
    > imho.
    >
    > You may or may not gain weight, depending upon whether you have
    > a severe "sucking your thumb" syndrome or not, which is what
    > smoking is in large part all about.
    >
    > Sense of smell, things will begin tasting better or worse as
    > your taste buds slowly re-acquaint themselves.
    >


    I "almost" quit a couple of years ago. I cut back to just maybe 2
    a day and even then the sense of smell came back. In traffic I
    could smell it when someone in the car in front of me was smoking.

    > You'll still smell the tar and/or nicotine in the wall paint for
    > years if you don't wash and repaint them. I did and I can STILL
    > smell it. At least it's not airborne and I'm not inhaling it.
    >


    I haven't smoked in the house in many years. I do think about the
    health of my cats and the smell of my things.

    > You yourself will smell better to others.
    >
    >
    > You can do it. I did!
    >
    > Remember: NO SUBSTITUTES!!!
    >

    I just may have to substitute for a while.

    > Just don't think of it as quitting! You're not a quitter! You're
    > a give it up'er!
    >
    >



  4. #4
    gloria.p Guest

    Default Re: Quitting smoking -- not completely off topic

    Cheryl wrote:
    > I have said to myself a lot over the last couple of years that I REALLY
    > need to quit smoking. Doctors have, too. Even my dentist said how
    > smoking can interfere with blood flow and bring back my periodontal
    > disease. Eye doctor said I could lose my sight for the same reason
    > given my eye pressure readings. Anyway.........................
    >
    > I just got this electronic cigarette




    I hope it works for you. I quit 30 years ago. It wasn't easy but I'm so
    glad I did. Good luck and keep us posted.

    gloria p

  5. #5
    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: Quitting smoking -- not completely off topic


    "Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]..
    > "Cheryl" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> I have said to myself a lot over the last couple of years that I
    >> REALLY need to quit smoking. Doctors have, too. Even my dentist said
    >> how smoking can interfere with blood flow and bring back my
    >> periodontal disease. Eye doctor said I could lose my sight for the
    >> same reason given my eye pressure readings.
    >> Anyway.........................
    >>
    >> I just got this electronic cigarette with "juice" to fill the
    >> cartridges that produce vapor in the flavors of cheesecake, pina
    >> colada and cloves (the not off topic part). No, not all mixed, three
    >> separate dropper bottles. I guess the idea is to still make it feel
    >> like you're smoking but re-associate the action with flavors not
    >> normally associated with smoking. Except for the cloves, of course.
    >> But that's my favorite flavor so far.
    >>
    >> I tried an electronic cigarette a couple of years ago, but wow, they
    >> have really improved since then, and this might actually work for me.

    >
    >
    > Forgive me if I come off too strong but for what it's worth...
    >
    > My first advice: Don't quit, give them up instead.
    > Quitting is self defeating in a mental sense.
    >
    > Next, don't belabor others with your giving up the habit. Just keep it
    > to yourself.
    >
    > The only proven successful method is giving them up cold turkey!
    > Substituting one thing for another is NOT AT ALL helpful.
    >
    > Add up the financial cost of the habit. Think of the cost savings. I
    > quit purely for financial rather than health reasons. I refused to pay
    > $4.00 a pack * 2 a day ($320/month) to let the tobacco industry kill
    > me. In turn I did all kinds of crazy stuff, like buy satellite radio.
    >
    > Throw out all your ashtrays, except one, for company.
    >
    > Don't keep a single cigarette around!
    >
    > You can't ever have just have one! EVER!!!
    >
    >
    > Withdrawal: (negative AND positive)
    >
    > You'll go through knee-jerk reactions, i.e., reaching for the pack of
    > cigarettes that isn't there. Me, it lasted two months or more.
    >
    > The mental strain/withdrawal is more potent than the physical, imho.
    >
    > You may or may not gain weight, depending upon whether you have a severe
    > "sucking your thumb" syndrome or not, which is what smoking is in large
    > part all about.
    >
    > Sense of smell, things will begin tasting better or worse as your taste
    > buds slowly re-acquaint themselves.
    >
    > You'll still smell the tar and/or nicotine in the wall paint for years
    > if you don't wash and repaint them. I did and I can STILL smell it. At
    > least it's not airborne and I'm not inhaling it.
    >
    > You yourself will smell better to others.
    >
    >
    > You can do it. I did!
    >
    > Remember: NO SUBSTITUTES!!!
    >
    > Just don't think of it as quitting! You're not a quitter! You're a give
    > it up'er!


    That is not the only method. I smoked for 27 years. I quit as follows:

    Cut back to cigarettes that are half the tar and nicotine. Keep cutting
    back by half. Then cut back on the amount you smoke. In the end, I would
    light one, take a puff and put it out.

    I always kept a pack of my favorite cigarettes in the house. This
    eliminated the panicky feeling I would get when I was out. I finally threw
    that pack away about 2 years later.

    I then got hypnotized. It was a group event.

    I did not lose the desire right away. In fact I drove home and light one
    up. I continued to smoke (although very little) for the remainder of the
    day.

    Then the next morning I got up and had breakfast.

    Somewhere towards the middle of the day it dawned on me that I hadn't had a
    cigarette. The desire was just gone!

    I did still seek out smokers for some time. I wanted to breathe in their
    smoke. I also did light one up at one point a few months later. I didn't
    inhale.

    Now I can't stand cigarette smoke. Luckily there are so few smokers around
    (at least in this area) that I don't have to think about it.



  6. #6
    Roy Guest

    Default Re: Quitting smoking -- not completely off topic

    On Nov 3, 8:06*pm, Andy <a...@b.c> wrote:
    > "Cheryl" <jlhsha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    > > I have said to myself a lot over the last couple of years that I
    > > REALLY need to quit smoking. *Doctors have, too. *Even my dentist said
    > > how smoking can interfere with blood flow and bring back my
    > > periodontal disease. *Eye doctor said I could lose my sight for the
    > > same reason given my eye pressure readings.
    > > Anyway.........................

    >
    > > I just got this electronic cigarette with "juice" to fill the
    > > cartridges that produce vapor in the flavors of cheesecake, pina
    > > colada and cloves (the not off topic part). *No, not all mixed, three
    > > separate dropper bottles. *I guess the idea is to still make it feel
    > > like you're smoking but re-associate the action with flavors not
    > > normally associated with smoking. *Except for the cloves, of course.
    > > But that's my favorite flavor so far.

    >
    > > I tried an electronic cigarette a couple of years ago, but wow, they
    > > have really improved since then, and this might actually work for me.

    >
    > Forgive me if I come off too strong but for what it's worth...
    >
    > My first advice: Don't quit, give them up instead.
    > * *Quitting is self defeating in a mental sense.
    >
    > Next, don't belabor others with your giving up the habit. Just keep it
    > to yourself.
    >
    > The only proven successful method is giving them up cold turkey!
    > Substituting one thing for another is NOT AT ALL helpful.
    >
    > Add up the financial cost of the habit. Think of the cost savings. I
    > quit purely for financial rather than health reasons. I refused to pay
    > $4.00 a pack * 2 a day ($320/month) *to let the tobacco industry kill
    > me. In turn I did all kinds of crazy stuff, like buy satellite radio.
    >
    > Throw out all your ashtrays, except one, for company.
    >
    > Don't keep a single cigarette around!
    >
    > You can't ever have just have one! EVER!!!
    >
    > Withdrawal: (negative AND positive)
    >
    > You'll go through knee-jerk reactions, i.e., reaching for the pack of
    > cigarettes that isn't there. Me, it lasted two months or more.
    >
    > The mental strain/withdrawal is more potent than the physical, imho.
    >
    > You may or may not gain weight, depending upon whether you have a severe
    > "sucking your thumb" syndrome or not, which is what smoking is in large
    > part all about.
    >
    > Sense of smell, things will begin tasting better or worse as your taste
    > buds slowly re-acquaint themselves.
    >
    > You'll still smell the tar and/or nicotine in the wall paint for years
    > if you don't wash and repaint them. *I did and I can STILL smell it. At
    > least it's not airborne and I'm not inhaling it.
    >
    > You yourself will smell better to others.
    >
    > You can do it. I did!
    >
    > Remember: NO SUBSTITUTES!!!
    >
    > Just don't think of it as quitting! You're not a quitter! You're a give
    > it up'er!
    >
    > Andy


    ==
    All good advice Andy. I stopped smoking seven years ago after smoking
    for fifty years. I probably would have been dead by now had I
    continued. With the money I saved I bought a brand new automobile
    after cessation from smoking for six years. Governments love to tax
    the addicts and addiction to smoking is even worse than heroin from
    what I have read. Governments don't need to pick my pocket any more.
    Piss on 'em.

    ==

  7. #7
    Nancy Young Guest

    Default Re: Quitting smoking -- not completely off topic

    Cheryl wrote:

    > I have said to myself a lot over the last couple of years that I
    > REALLY need to quit smoking. Doctors have, too. Even my dentist
    > said how smoking can interfere with blood flow and bring back my
    > periodontal disease. Eye doctor said I could lose my sight for the
    > same reason given my eye pressure readings.
    > Anyway.........................


    If that doesn't suck the joy out of smoking, what will!

    Whatever works for you, for me I would need no cigarettes around
    to remind me. However you do it, I wish you the best, it's just a
    cruddy habit that gets more unappealing the longer you do it, like
    most bad habits. I hope you're in that good place soon, where
    you wonder why you didn't do it sooner.

    nancy

  8. #8
    ravenlynne Guest

    Default Re: Quitting smoking -- not completely off topic

    On 11/3/2010 10:18 PM, Cheryl wrote:
    >
    > purely for financial rather than health reasons.
    >> I refused to pay $4.00 a pack * 2 a day ($320/month) to let the
    >> tobacco industry kill me. In turn I did all kinds of crazy
    >> stuff, like buy satellite radio.
    >>

    > It's been a while since you smoked if they cost $4 a pack when you
    > quit. Try $6 or $7 or more now. Yikes. It pains me to think of
    > how much I spend to kill myself. Nicotine is a wicked addiction.


    Holy crap they were less that 3 a pack when I quit!
    >




    --
    Currently reading: Batman: The Man Who Laughs

  9. #9
    Jim Elbrecht Guest

    Default Re: Quitting smoking -- not completely off topic

    Cheryl <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Wed 03 Nov 2010 10:06:32p, Andy wrote in rec.food.cooking

    -snip-
    >
    > purely for financial rather than health reasons.
    >> I refused to pay $4.00 a pack * 2 a day ($320/month) to let the
    >> tobacco industry kill me. In turn I did all kinds of crazy
    >> stuff, like buy satellite radio.
    >>

    >It's been a while since you smoked if they cost $4 a pack when you
    >quit. Try $6 or $7 or more now. Yikes. It pains me to think of
    >how much I spend to kill myself. Nicotine is a wicked addiction.


    Try $11-20 in NY now. [yes- that's a pack]

    I stopped smoking in the ER 10 years ago or so. I was on my way to
    the cath lab for a stent after a 'cardiac event'.
    The cardiologist said; 'I see on your chart you used to smoke.'
    Me; Mo, I still smoke- about a pack a day and a pound of pipe tobacco
    a week.
    Cardiologist; No, you're *used* to smoke.
    Me; No, I still smoke.
    Cardiologist; No you don't.
    Me; Oh- I get it. Yes, I used to smoke.

    Came home 2 days later feeling better than I had in 10 years. Still
    have a 1/2 pack of Kools and a brand new pound of tobacco sitting on a
    sideboard & 100 pipes in a rack on the wall. I've smoked 1
    cigarette, and 2 bowls of tobacco in 10 years. [though I have to
    admit I try to stand downwind of pipe smokers to this day]
    -snip-
    >>
    >> The mental strain/withdrawal is more potent than the physical,
    >> imho.


    Agree- it is all just saying 'that stage of my life is over and now
    I'm healthier and wealthier for it'.

    >>
    >> You may or may not gain weight, depending upon whether you have
    >> a severe "sucking your thumb" syndrome or not, which is what
    >> smoking is in large part all about.


    I lost 30 pounds in the first year- but mostly because I was able to
    do all the stuff I couldn't for years.

    -snip-
    >
    >I haven't smoked in the house in many years. I do think about the
    >health of my cats and the smell of my things.


    You're funny. Worried about the health of your cats. How about
    their caretaker? [I love my wife & know what you mean. She smokes
    outside for the dog-- but never did for the kids.]

    Good luck- it is a tough row to hoe, but well worth the effort.
    Jim

  10. #10
    Nancy2 Guest

    Default Re: Quitting smoking -- not completely off topic


    Good luck and good thoughts....I quit almost 6 years ago when I had
    the flu, and thought it was my last, best chance to quit because the
    idea of a cigarette made me sicker. I still miss it, but all I have
    to do is remember how they made my throat feel....I still have my last
    unopened pack, cigarette case and lighter in the closet. ;-)

    Whatever works for you .....

    N.

  11. #11
    Dave Smith Guest

    Default Re: Quitting smoking -- not completely off topic

    On 03/11/2010 9:20 PM, Cheryl wrote:
    > I have said to myself a lot over the last couple of years that I REALLY
    > need to quit smoking. Doctors have, too. Even my dentist said how
    > smoking can interfere with blood flow and bring back my periodontal
    > disease. Eye doctor said I could lose my sight for the same reason given
    > my eye pressure readings. Anyway.........................
    >
    > I just got this electronic cigarette with "juice" to fill the cartridges
    > that produce vapor in the flavors of cheesecake, pina colada and cloves
    > (the not off topic part). No, not all mixed, three separate dropper
    > bottles. I guess the idea is to still make it feel like you're smoking
    > but re-associate the action with flavors not normally associated with
    > smoking. Except for the cloves, of course. But that's my favorite flavor
    > so far.
    >
    > I tried an electronic cigarette a couple of years ago, but wow, they
    > have really improved since then, and this might actually work for me.



    I always wondered about the effectiveness of substitutes for cigarettes.
    IMNSHO, smoking is an addictive behaviour more than a matter of a
    physical addiction to nicotine. Those who make a lot of money treating
    it as a physical addition say otherwise.

    FWIW, I started smoking as a teen, gave it up at about 32, cold turkey
    and didn't smoke for 17 years. Then when my father was in the hospital
    dying (not smoking related) I would go outside with my brothers while
    they had a smoke. I thought i could get away with one once in a while.
    I was embarrassed to keep bumming smokes, so I bought a pack. I was
    okay, but then I went on a two week trip to Europe with my brothers and
    their wives.....four smokers. I didn't even pick any up at duty free
    before leaving because I wasn't smoking. I came back with a pack a day
    habit. That went on for a couple years and I went cold turkey again.

    I didn't smoke at all until the day of my mother's funeral. I picked up
    a pack because I thought I might like to have a cigarette or two and
    didn't want to bum them. I was soon back to a pack a day.

    Then in July of this year the government brought in the harmonized sales
    tax,which added about 70 cents per pack, putting them over $10 a pack
    here. I guess that was the magic price for me. No way I was going to pay
    that. I stopped. I went cold turkey at the beginning of July. I have not
    touched a cigarette. I have not had urges and cravings. I did not find
    any substitutes. I stopped the behaviour.

  12. #12
    Brooklyn1 Guest

    Default Re: Quitting smoking -- not completely off topic

    On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 21:06:32 -0500, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"Cheryl" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> I have said to myself a lot over the last couple of years that I
    >> REALLY need to quit smoking. Doctors have, too. Even my dentist said
    >> how smoking can interfere with blood flow and bring back my
    >> periodontal disease. Eye doctor said I could lose my sight for the
    >> same reason given my eye pressure readings.
    >> Anyway.........................
    >>
    >> I just got this electronic cigarette with "juice" to fill the
    >> cartridges that produce vapor in the flavors of cheesecake, pina
    >> colada and cloves (the not off topic part). No, not all mixed, three
    >> separate dropper bottles. I guess the idea is to still make it feel
    >> like you're smoking but re-associate the action with flavors not
    >> normally associated with smoking. Except for the cloves, of course.
    >> But that's my favorite flavor so far.
    >>
    >> I tried an electronic cigarette a couple of years ago, but wow, they
    >> have really improved since then, and this might actually work for me.

    >
    >
    >Forgive me if I come off too strong but for what it's worth...
    >
    >My first advice: Don't quit, give them up instead.
    > Quitting is self defeating in a mental sense.
    >
    >Next, don't belabor others with your giving up the habit. Just keep it
    >to yourself.
    >
    >The only proven successful method is giving them up cold turkey!
    >Substituting one thing for another is NOT AT ALL helpful.
    >
    >Add up the financial cost of the habit. Think of the cost savings. I
    >quit purely for financial rather than health reasons. I refused to pay
    >$4.00 a pack * 2 a day ($320/month) to let the tobacco industry kill
    >me. In turn I did all kinds of crazy stuff, like buy satellite radio.
    >
    >Throw out all your ashtrays, except one, for company.
    >
    >Don't keep a single cigarette around!
    >
    >You can't ever have just have one! EVER!!!
    >
    >
    >Withdrawal: (negative AND positive)
    >
    >You'll go through knee-jerk reactions, i.e., reaching for the pack of
    >cigarettes that isn't there. Me, it lasted two months or more.
    >
    >The mental strain/withdrawal is more potent than the physical, imho.
    >
    >You may or may not gain weight, depending upon whether you have a severe
    >"sucking your thumb" syndrome or not, which is what smoking is in large
    >part all about.
    >
    >Sense of smell, things will begin tasting better or worse as your taste
    >buds slowly re-acquaint themselves.
    >
    >You'll still smell the tar and/or nicotine in the wall paint for years
    >if you don't wash and repaint them. I did and I can STILL smell it. At
    >least it's not airborne and I'm not inhaling it.
    >
    >You yourself will smell better to others.
    >
    >
    >You can do it. I did!
    >
    >Remember: NO SUBSTITUTES!!!
    >
    >Just don't think of it as quitting! You're not a quitter! You're a give
    >it up'er!
    >
    >Andy


    I didn't quit or give it up... quitting and giving up are
    synonymous... I simply STOPPED!
    I didn't keep even one ashtray... no one smokes on my premises, not
    even outside.
    If I could stop smoking anyone can. And don't say anything, don't
    even remember the date or the money... stop like you never did.

  13. #13
    Brooklyn1 Guest

    Default Re: Quitting smoking -- not completely off topic

    On 04 Nov 2010 02:18:23 GMT, Cheryl <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Wed 03 Nov 2010 10:06:32p, Andy wrote in rec.food.cooking
    ><news:[email protected]>:
    >
    >> Forgive me if I come off too strong but for what it's worth...
    >>
    >> My first advice: Don't quit, give them up instead.
    >> Quitting is self defeating in a mental sense.
    >>
    >> Next, don't belabor others with your giving up the habit. Just
    >> keep it to yourself.
    >>

    >But networking can help others.
    >
    >> The only proven successful method is giving them up cold turkey!
    >> Substituting one thing for another is NOT AT ALL helpful.
    >>

    >Sure it is.
    >
    >> Add up the financial cost of the habit. Think of the cost
    >> savings. I quit

    >
    >I thought you said not to say "quit"?
    >
    > purely for financial rather than health reasons.
    >> I refused to pay $4.00 a pack * 2 a day ($320/month) to let the
    >> tobacco industry kill me. In turn I did all kinds of crazy
    >> stuff, like buy satellite radio.
    >>

    >It's been a while since you smoked if they cost $4 a pack when you
    >quit. Try $6 or $7 or more now. Yikes. It pains me to think of
    >how much I spend to kill myself. Nicotine is a wicked addiction.
    >
    >
    >> Throw out all your ashtrays, except one, for company.
    >>
    >> Don't keep a single cigarette around!
    >>
    >> You can't ever have just have one! EVER!!!
    >>
    >>
    >> Withdrawal: (negative AND positive)
    >>
    >> You'll go through knee-jerk reactions, i.e., reaching for the
    >> pack of cigarettes that isn't there. Me, it lasted two months or
    >> more.
    >>
    >> The mental strain/withdrawal is more potent than the physical,
    >> imho.
    >>
    >> You may or may not gain weight, depending upon whether you have
    >> a severe "sucking your thumb" syndrome or not, which is what
    >> smoking is in large part all about.
    >>
    >> Sense of smell, things will begin tasting better or worse as
    >> your taste buds slowly re-acquaint themselves.
    >>

    >
    >I "almost" quit a couple of years ago. I cut back to just maybe 2
    >a day and even then the sense of smell came back. In traffic I
    >could smell it when someone in the car in front of me was smoking.
    >
    >> You'll still smell the tar and/or nicotine in the wall paint for
    >> years if you don't wash and repaint them. I did and I can STILL
    >> smell it. At least it's not airborne and I'm not inhaling it.
    >>

    >
    >I haven't smoked in the house in many years. I do think about the
    >health of my cats and the smell of my things.
    >
    >> You yourself will smell better to others.
    >>
    >>
    >> You can do it. I did!
    >>
    >> Remember: NO SUBSTITUTES!!!
    >>

    >I just may have to substitute for a while.


    Then you'll never stop... a crutch is a crutch is a crutch is a
    crutch... forever! Substituting will ensure that you'll never stop,
    it'll only give you an alibi for why you failed. You can't stop
    smoking over and over and over... stopping smoking is like giving up
    your virginity, you can only do it once. If you are going to use a
    crutch it's like when you were fourteen and that pimple faced boy said
    I'll only stick the head in... and wasn't long before every pimple
    faced boy in town stuck his head in. Face it, you're a tobacco ho.

  14. #14
    Brooklyn1 Guest

    Default Re: Quitting smoking -- not completely off topic

    On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 08:05:58 -0400, Jim Elbrecht <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >Cheryl <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>On Wed 03 Nov 2010 10:06:32p, Andy wrote in rec.food.cooking

    >-snip-
    >>
    >> purely for financial rather than health reasons.
    >>> I refused to pay $4.00 a pack * 2 a day ($320/month) to let the
    >>> tobacco industry kill me. In turn I did all kinds of crazy
    >>> stuff, like buy satellite radio.
    >>>

    >>It's been a while since you smoked if they cost $4 a pack when you
    >>quit. Try $6 or $7 or more now. Yikes. It pains me to think of
    >>how much I spend to kill myself. Nicotine is a wicked addiction.

    >
    >Try $11-20 in NY now. [yes- that's a pack]
    >
    >I stopped smoking in the ER 10 years ago or so. I was on my way to
    >the cath lab for a stent after a 'cardiac event'.
    >The cardiologist said; 'I see on your chart you used to smoke.'
    >Me; Mo, I still smoke- about a pack a day and a pound of pipe tobacco
    >a week.
    >Cardiologist; No, you're *used* to smoke.
    >Me; No, I still smoke.
    >Cardiologist; No you don't.
    >Me; Oh- I get it. Yes, I used to smoke.
    >
    >Came home 2 days later feeling better than I had in 10 years. Still
    >have a 1/2 pack of Kools and a brand new pound of tobacco sitting on a
    >sideboard & 100 pipes in a rack on the wall. I've smoked 1
    >cigarette, and 2 bowls of tobacco in 10 years. [though I have to
    >admit I try to stand downwind of pipe smokers to this day]


    You're not the least bit believeable.

  15. #15
    Brooklyn1 Guest

    Default Re: Quitting smoking -- not completely off topic

    On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 19:52:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >"Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]..
    >> "Cheryl" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> I have said to myself a lot over the last couple of years that I
    >>> REALLY need to quit smoking. Doctors have, too. Even my dentist said
    >>> how smoking can interfere with blood flow and bring back my
    >>> periodontal disease. Eye doctor said I could lose my sight for the
    >>> same reason given my eye pressure readings.
    >>> Anyway.........................
    >>>
    >>> I just got this electronic cigarette with "juice" to fill the
    >>> cartridges that produce vapor in the flavors of cheesecake, pina
    >>> colada and cloves (the not off topic part). No, not all mixed, three
    >>> separate dropper bottles. I guess the idea is to still make it feel
    >>> like you're smoking but re-associate the action with flavors not
    >>> normally associated with smoking. Except for the cloves, of course.
    >>> But that's my favorite flavor so far.
    >>>
    >>> I tried an electronic cigarette a couple of years ago, but wow, they
    >>> have really improved since then, and this might actually work for me.

    >>
    >>
    >> Forgive me if I come off too strong but for what it's worth...
    >>
    >> My first advice: Don't quit, give them up instead.
    >> Quitting is self defeating in a mental sense.
    >>
    >> Next, don't belabor others with your giving up the habit. Just keep it
    >> to yourself.
    >>
    >> The only proven successful method is giving them up cold turkey!
    >> Substituting one thing for another is NOT AT ALL helpful.
    >>
    >> Add up the financial cost of the habit. Think of the cost savings. I
    >> quit purely for financial rather than health reasons. I refused to pay
    >> $4.00 a pack * 2 a day ($320/month) to let the tobacco industry kill
    >> me. In turn I did all kinds of crazy stuff, like buy satellite radio.
    >>
    >> Throw out all your ashtrays, except one, for company.
    >>
    >> Don't keep a single cigarette around!
    >>
    >> You can't ever have just have one! EVER!!!
    >>
    >>
    >> Withdrawal: (negative AND positive)
    >>
    >> You'll go through knee-jerk reactions, i.e., reaching for the pack of
    >> cigarettes that isn't there. Me, it lasted two months or more.
    >>
    >> The mental strain/withdrawal is more potent than the physical, imho.
    >>
    >> You may or may not gain weight, depending upon whether you have a severe
    >> "sucking your thumb" syndrome or not, which is what smoking is in large
    >> part all about.
    >>
    >> Sense of smell, things will begin tasting better or worse as your taste
    >> buds slowly re-acquaint themselves.
    >>
    >> You'll still smell the tar and/or nicotine in the wall paint for years
    >> if you don't wash and repaint them. I did and I can STILL smell it. At
    >> least it's not airborne and I'm not inhaling it.
    >>
    >> You yourself will smell better to others.
    >>
    >>
    >> You can do it. I did!
    >>
    >> Remember: NO SUBSTITUTES!!!
    >>
    >> Just don't think of it as quitting! You're not a quitter! You're a give
    >> it up'er!

    >
    >That is not the only method. I smoked for 27 years. I quit as follows:
    >
    >Cut back to cigarettes that are half the tar and nicotine. Keep cutting
    >back by half. Then cut back on the amount you smoke. In the end, I would
    >light one, take a puff and put it out.
    >
    >I always kept a pack of my favorite cigarettes in the house. This
    >eliminated the panicky feeling I would get when I was out. I finally threw
    >that pack away about 2 years later.
    >
    >I then got hypnotized. It was a group event.
    >
    >I did not lose the desire right away. In fact I drove home and light one
    >up. I continued to smoke (although very little) for the remainder of the
    >day.
    >
    >Then the next morning I got up and had breakfast.
    >
    >Somewhere towards the middle of the day it dawned on me that I hadn't had a
    >cigarette. The desire was just gone!
    >
    >I did still seek out smokers for some time. I wanted to breathe in their
    >smoke. I also did light one up at one point a few months later. I didn't
    >inhale.


    Yeah, right... you and Bubba Clinton.

  16. #16
    Wayne Boatwright Guest

    Default Re: Quitting smoking -- not completely off topic

    On Thu 04 Nov 2010 12:08:54a, ravenlynne told us...

    > On 11/3/2010 10:18 PM, Cheryl wrote:
    >>
    >> purely for financial rather than health reasons.
    >>> I refused to pay $4.00 a pack * 2 a day ($320/month) to let the
    >>> tobacco industry kill me. In turn I did all kinds of crazy
    >>> stuff, like buy satellite radio.
    >>>

    >> It's been a while since you smoked if they cost $4 a pack when
    >> you quit. Try $6 or $7 or more now. Yikes. It pains me to
    >> think of how much I spend to kill myself. Nicotine is a wicked
    >> addiction.

    >
    > Holy crap they were less that 3 a pack when I quit!


    Premium brands run as high as $6-7 per pack here in AZ. We were
    buying cigarettes by the carton on the Inidian reservation, as there
    are exempt from certain taxes. We were paying $38 per carton.


    --

    ~~ If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. ~~

    ~~ A mind is a terrible thing to lose. ~~

    ************************************************** ********

    Wayne Boatwright


  17. #17
    Christopher Helms Guest

    Default Re: Quitting smoking -- not completely off topic

    On Nov 4, 7:05*am, Jim Elbrecht <elbre...@email.com> wrote:
    > Cheryl <jlhsha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    > >On Wed 03 Nov 2010 10:06:32p, Andy wrote in rec.food.cooking

    > -snip-
    >
    > > purely for financial rather than health reasons.
    > >> I refused to pay $4.00 a pack * 2 a day ($320/month) *to let the
    > >> tobacco industry kill me. In turn I did all kinds of crazy
    > >> stuff, like buy satellite radio.

    >
    > >It's been a while since you smoked if they cost $4 a pack when you
    > >quit. *Try $6 or $7 or more now. *Yikes. *It pains me to think of
    > >how much I spend to kill myself. *Nicotine is a wicked addiction.

    >
    > Try $11-20 in NY now. * *[yes- that's a pack]



    Gotta love those "sin taxes," paid by the "sinners" and pocketed by
    people who I am sure view themselves as "saints." Anyhoo... I quit
    about ten years ago but have relapsed a few times. What worked for me
    was easing off of them over a period of about a year. Smoking fewer
    and fewer all the time worked for me, but finding the way that works
    tends to be different for everybody.

  18. #18
    Pete C. Guest

    Default Re: Quitting smoking -- not completely off topic


    Cheryl wrote:
    >
    > I have said to myself a lot over the last couple of years that I REALLY need
    > to quit smoking. Doctors have, too. Even my dentist said how smoking can
    > interfere with blood flow and bring back my periodontal disease. Eye doctor
    > said I could lose my sight for the same reason given my eye pressure
    > readings. Anyway.........................
    >
    > I just got this electronic cigarette with "juice" to fill the cartridges
    > that produce vapor in the flavors of cheesecake, pina colada and cloves (the
    > not off topic part). No, not all mixed, three separate dropper bottles. I
    > guess the idea is to still make it feel like you're smoking but re-associate
    > the action with flavors not normally associated with smoking. Except for
    > the cloves, of course. But that's my favorite flavor so far.
    >
    > I tried an electronic cigarette a couple of years ago, but wow, they have
    > really improved since then, and this might actually work for me.


    Good luck quitting. Those e-cigs supply nicotine, so they are rather
    like the "patch" and you need to slowly step down your use. You also may
    want to stock up on the e-gigs and supplies since there are some kooks
    trying to ban them and the "patch" makers are likely supporting them...

  19. #19
    Phyllis Stone Guest

    Default Re: Quitting smoking -- not completely off topic



    "Brooklyn1" wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..

    On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 21:06:32 -0500, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:
    ..

    I didn't quit or give it up... quitting and giving up are
    synonymous... I simply STOPPED!
    I didn't keep even one ashtray... no one smokes on my premises, not
    even outside.
    If I could stop smoking anyone can. And don't say anything, don't
    even remember the date or the money... stop like you never did.




    That is how I did it. I didn't tell anyone , I just did it about 30 or 40
    years ago. I would even be afraid to smoke pot because 1. its illegal and B.
    I might resurrect that smoking habit.


  20. #20
    Ema Nymton Guest

    Default Re: Quitting smoking -- not completely off topic

    On 11/4/2010 9:14 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
    > Good luck and good thoughts....I quit almost 6 years ago when I had
    > the flu, and thought it was my last, best chance to quit because the
    > idea of a cigarette made me sicker. I still miss it, but all I have
    > to do is remember how they made my throat feel....I still have my last
    > unopened pack, cigarette case and lighter in the closet. ;-)
    >
    > Whatever works for you .....
    >
    > N.


    When I stopped smoking, I was 32 yo. I waited until I was sick,
    unfortunately, it took two years, from the time I made the decision to
    stop. I did not tell anybody for a week. The hardest thing, is choosing
    a date, so quitting when you are sick took that decision away from me.
    I smoked over 3 packs a day, and for me, it was not hard to stop. I
    kept waiting for the other shoe to drop, but that never happened. If I
    became anxious, I would do some deep breathing or roll my neck from side
    to side. The urge to smoke comes in waves, if you can hold off for
    about 30 seconds, the urge will pass. Best of luck to you, Cheryl.

    Becca

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