Thread: Pleae don't call it the Tenderloin district

On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 08:13:51 -0800, Mark Thorson <[email protected]> wrote:

>PETA wants to rename it the Tempeh district.
>
>http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=86001
>

They just can't seem to keep their noses out of peoples business, no wonder
their membership is declining... no one wants to be associated with them and
for good reason.


OB dinner is t'bone steaks with au gratin potatoes, corn on the cob and banana
cream pie.

On Apr 4, 11:13*am, Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net> wrote:
> PETA wants to rename it the Tempeh district.
>
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=86001


PETA only defends the killing & eating of food that can't run away.

On 4/4/2011 8:56 AM, Christopher Helms wrote:
> On Apr 4, 11:13 am, Mark Thorson<nos...@sonic.net> wrote:
>> PETA wants to rename it the Tempeh district.
>>
>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=86001
>
>
> PETA only defends the killing& eating of food that can't run away.

That's a good line because it's funny and at it's heart it's sadly true.

On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 08:13:51 -0800, Mark Thorson <[email protected]>
wrote:

> PETA wants to rename it the Tempeh district.
>
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=86001
>
So, PETA doesn't have anything better to do these days? They've slid
from animal advocates to out & out kooks. To think I used to admire
what they did. They haven't had my respect in years.

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On Apr 4, 2:31*pm, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 08:13:51 -0800, Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net>
> wrote:
>
> > PETA wants to rename it the Tempeh district.
>
> >http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=86001
>
> So, PETA doesn't have anything better to do these days? *They've slid
> from animal advocates to out & out kooks. *To think I used to admire
> what they did. *They haven't had my respect in years.
>
I completely agree. The person who has done more for animal welfare
than any other is actually paid by the meat industry, Temple Grandin.

--Bryan

On 4/4/2011 9:55 AM, Bryan wrote:
> On Apr 4, 2:31 pm, sf<s...@geemail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 08:13:51 -0800, Mark Thorson<nos...@sonic.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> PETA wants to rename it the Tempeh district.
>>
>>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=86001
>>
>> So, PETA doesn't have anything better to do these days? They've slid
>> from animal advocates to out& out kooks. To think I used to admire
>> what they did. They haven't had my respect in years.
>>
> I completely agree. The person who has done more for animal welfare
> than any other is actually paid by the meat industry, Temple Grandin.
>
> --Bryan

Ironic, isn't it? OTOH, it makes a lot of sense if you have the ability
(or curse) to see the world as animals do to try to make their last
moments in existence as comfortable as possible. One thing's for sure -
we should have a little more respect for that burger on our plates.

On 04/04/2011 3:31 PM, sf wrote:

> So, PETA doesn't have anything better to do these days? They've slid
> from animal advocates to out& out kooks. To think I used to admire
> what they did. They haven't had my respect in years.


I had a look at their web site a few days ago and saw a list of things
they are opposed to. One of them was pronged collars for dogs. I have
had some large and active rescue dogs for which regular collars and
choke chains were ineffective. The prongs do not stick into the neck.
When they pull on the leash the prongs go from lying flat to pressing
at about a 30 degree angle to make it uncomfortable. The lat dog I had
who wore a pronged collar loved his collar. It meant that he was going
for a road walk on a leash, and for some reason he sometimes seemed to
like walking on a leash better than running loose.

Then there is the remote electronic collar that they think is cruel.
What I think is cruel is a dog not being able to run free. My latest
rescue was a 5 year old Malinois, a very high energy dog who showed no
indication of ever having been trained. He was difficult to walk on a
leash and would not come when called, though he would eventually come
back when he felt like it. After months of training with no success, I
broke down and spent a lot of money on a remote training collar with a
1000 yard range. I needed the long range model because it wouldn't take
him long to get out of range at the speed he travels.


Sonny still gets the occasional mild correction signal. There is no way
I would let him off the leash near the house because it is too close to
the road, but when we go to back to the bush and fields he gets to go
leash free. He will heel for a while, until he is told "free" and then
he takes off for a run. He now stays within sight and, more important,
comes when he is called.



He loves that collar. He gets excited when he sees me getting ready to
put it on and he is more than cooperative about putting it on. It is a
matter of trade off. He may get the occasional mild correction, but he
gets to run free and since he loves to run more than anything else in
the world, the whole thing is a rewarding experience for him.

On 2011-04-04, sf <[email protected]> wrote:

> So, PETA doesn't have anything better to do these days? They've slid
> from animal advocates to out & out kooks.

They were ever different?

Besides, no money in being a moderate. Jes ask scieno's.

nb

On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 12:55:59 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
<[email protected]> wrote:

> On Apr 4, 2:31*pm, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 08:13:51 -0800, Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > PETA wants to rename it the Tempeh district.
> >
> > >http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=86001
> >
> > So, PETA doesn't have anything better to do these days? *They've slid
> > from animal advocates to out & out kooks. *To think I used to admire
> > what they did. *They haven't had my respect in years.
> >
> I completely agree. The person who has done more for animal welfare
> than any other is actually paid by the meat industry, Temple Grandin.
>
She *is* fantastic.


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On 4-Apr-2011, Mark Thorson <[email protected]> wrote:

> PETA wants to rename it the Tempeh district.

Might get confused with cities in Arizona or Florida 8-) Pâte à choux
might be a better choice.
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On 4 Apr 2011 21:09:06 GMT, notbob <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 2011-04-04, sf <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > So, PETA doesn't have anything better to do these days? They've slid
> > from animal advocates to out & out kooks.
>
> They were ever different?

They first got my attention back when they were advocating for lab
animals and "milk fed" animals that were kept caged just so their meat
would be white.
>
> Besides, no money in being a moderate. Jes ask scieno's.
>
Scientologist's get money because they make their members think they
are crazy and that giving money to the "church" is going to fix them.

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On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 22:28:58 GMT, "l, not -l" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On 4-Apr-2011, Mark Thorson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > PETA wants to rename it the Tempeh district.
>
> Might get confused with cities in Arizona or Florida 8-) Pâte à choux
> might be a better choice.

That's too French. Cream Puff will do.

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On 4/4/2011 6:39 PM, sf wrote:
>
> Scientologist's get money because they make their members think they
> are crazy and that giving money to the "church" is going to fix them.
>

That particular mind-set is not limited to members of scientology.

Sky

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On Apr 4, 6:55*pm, Sky <skyho...@NOsbcglobal.SnPeAtM> wrote:
> On 4/4/2011 6:39 PM, sf wrote:
>
>
>
> > Scientologist's get money because they make their members think they
> > are crazy and that giving money to the "church" is going to fix them.
>
> That particular mind-set is not limited to members of scientology.

Sure, but almost all of the other religions, even Roman Catholicism,
have redeeming qualities. Scientology is a racket, kind of a pyramid
scheme.
>
> Sky
>
--Bryan

On 4/4/2011 7:13 PM, Bryan wrote:
> On Apr 4, 6:55 pm, Sky<skyho...@NOsbcglobal.SnPeAtM> wrote:
>> On 4/4/2011 6:39 PM, sf wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Scientologist's get money because they make their members think they
>>> are crazy and that giving money to the "church" is going to fix them.
>>
>> That particular mind-set is not limited to members of scientology.
>
> Sure, but almost all of the other religions, even Roman Catholicism,
> have redeeming qualities. Scientology is a racket, kind of a pyramid
> scheme.

I don't disagree at all! If "religion" were faith, "ruhroh"!
Thankfully, faith does not necessarily rely on 'religion'!

Sky

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On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 18:55:39 -0500, Sky <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On 4/4/2011 6:39 PM, sf wrote:
> >
> > Scientologist's get money because they make their members think they
> > are crazy and that giving money to the "church" is going to fix them.
> >
>
> That particular mind-set is not limited to members of scientology.
>
I think the catholics started it with buying their way into heaven.

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On Apr 4, 4:39*pm, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 22:28:58 GMT, "l, not -l" <lal...@cujo.com> wrote:
>
> > On *4-Apr-2011, Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
> > > PETA wants to rename it the Tempeh district.
>
> > Might get confused with cities in Arizona or Florida * 8-) * *Pâte à choux
> > might be a better choice.
>
> That's too French. *Cream Puff will do.

Nope. People will think it's near Castro & Market.

I was also going to suggest to rename the hetero dating scene from
"meat market" to "fruit market", but rejected it for the same reason.

On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 23:31:27 -0700 (PDT), Ostap Bender
<[email protected]> wrote:

> On Apr 4, 4:39*pm, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 22:28:58 GMT, "l, not -l" <lal...@cujo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On *4-Apr-2011, Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > PETA wants to rename it the Tempeh district.
> >
> > > Might get confused with cities in Arizona or Florida * 8-) * *Pâte à choux
> > > might be a better choice.
> >
> > That's too French. *Cream Puff will do.
>
> Nope. People will think it's near Castro & Market.
>
Oh, oh... of course, you're right - even if they'd be wrong.

> I was also going to suggest to rename the hetero dating scene from
> "meat market" to "fruit market", but rejected it for the same reason.

It's a conundrum, for sure. I'm a traditionalist and still like
"Tenderloin". It's always been a hardscrabble area, why change the
name? It would be like putting a wig on a goat.

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On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 23:18:05 -0700, sf wrote:

> On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 18:55:39 -0500, Sky <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/4/2011 6:39 PM, sf wrote:
>> >
>> > Scientologist's get money because they make their members think they
>> > are crazy and that giving money to the "church" is going to fix them.
>> >
>>
>> That particular mind-set is not limited to members of scientology.
>>
> I think the catholics started it with buying their way into heaven.

Abraham was a Catholic? Who knew?
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